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Nekomata Master - Avalon no oka [CatchTheBeat]

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Callionet
Former osu!catch Champion: 2016
240 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Callionet

ZHSteven wrote:

ser_123 wrote:

dude i know that map. I just say that because i get that from the past from ctb bats (Krah) or other mappers.They said to me and overdose or rain without
hyperdash is boring and not rankable!
Ok if that is the case.
This is the first time I heard that rankable or not depending on the amount of hyperdash. I'd like to know who is the person saying so....

By the way, it is fine to think of a map is so called "boring", But please do not say that is unrankable only by this. There is not any relationship between them.

@intensity:
虽然说他是瞎扯淡，但是你既然决定做无红果Ex, 那么就应该知道做这种图的难点是最大跳的距离被限制死了，那么专有梗就会变得非常有限。现在你的图的问题就是这个。梗太少，翻来覆去就是那么几个，剩下的移动又没有出彩。 这样才会让嘴巴选手说“boring".
所以你要想办法绝对突出你要突出的东西，梗灵活一点，比如说活用站跳(stand jump)，四方跳之类的无红果就能很有威力的梗

做跳的时候我建议你首先要了解l两个参数：极限距离，极限无跳距离。
然后根据这两个参数来确定你的SV.对于这张图，这个SV应该是稍稍比极限无跳距离多，保证平放slider的时候必须要让玩家用到dash
最后把SV的距离和极限距离抄在tag上。作跳梗的时候多参考这2个数，会很有帮助的（我一般都是这么弄的0.0）
不理
反正它肯定不能因为打 狂喷一波 我随意

顺便改了几个地方
ser_123
ser_123
i didnt say it is unrankable i mean just only or i will give you tipps for that more users playing your map
Crystal
Former osu!catch Champion: 2018
1,122 posts
Joined June 2012
Crystal

ser_123 wrote:

i didnt say it is unrankable i mean just only or i will give you tipps for that more users playing your map
plz notice that non-hyperdash maps are also fun for some players especially when it fits the song. to me, this overdose difficulty fits the song because of that, since the rhythm is stable, in another word, it's smooth. when i play/map the song, i didn't find any reason to put many or even a few sudden hyperdashes. keeping a special (but decent) style on mapping doesn't mean it's less playable. :D
ser_123
ser_123
i will give you only tipps its your choice !!
Callionet
Former osu!catch Champion: 2016
240 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Callionet
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Last edited by Callionet , edited 1 time in total.
ursa
1,302 posts
Joined April 2010
ursa
I see a gold on this map , Star :)

also

you can contact me ingame if you need advice/mod

:)
Callionet
Former osu!catch Champion: 2016
240 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Callionet

ursa wrote:

I see a gold on this map , Star :)

also

you can contact me ingame if you need advice/mod

:)
:) thx
ZiRoX
Elite Mapper
1,019 posts
Joined November 2009
ZiRoX
[General Comment]
Each diff is fine, with some minor issues in my opinion. But overall, the spread is not really good: the difference between Max Combo is weird (404 --> 802 --> 913 --> 915) which brings up some score problems (Max Score on Rain is higher than on Overdose).

[Salad]
Timeline and Patterns
  1. 00:45:752 (1,2,3) - Since this is less than 1/1 closer to the spinner, I would start it closer to the center.
  2. 01:35:246 (5,1,2) - I think the jump fits better between (1,2) rather than (5,1). Also, the (5,1) jump is the only time I needed to dash on the song, making it extremely unexpected.
New Combo
  1. 00:22:714 (6) - Add NC
  2. 00:28:790 (5) - Add NC
  3. 00:31:828 (5) - Add NC
  4. 00:47:018 (5) - Add NC
  5. 00:50:056 (6) - Add NC
  6. 01:00:562 (1) - Remove NC
  7. 01:00:689 (2) - Add NC
  8. 01:32:588 (4) - Add NC
  9. 01:35:499 (1) - Remove NC
  10. 01:35:626 (2) - Add NC

[Xingxing's pLatter]
As an overall suggestion, I would try to reduce Max Combo on this diff to create a better spread between diffs.
Song Settings
  1. Slider Velocity 2,50 is too much for a Platter, it's noticeable on the horizontal sliders like this one 01:30:309 (1) -
Timeline and Patterns
  1. 00:10:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Why don't you reduce distance a bit on this part? The song is just starting. Set (4) to x:272, (5) to x:160 and (6) to x:48 to keep the same idea but with a little less distance.
  2. 00:12:018 (9) - I don't think this adds too much to the map. It isn't audible and it doesn't look too good; it also doesn't allow for a jump between 00:11:702 (8,1) - that would fit nicely.
  3. 00:20:056 (5) - Reduce this jump slightly as there's nothing at the song hinting it, something around x2,5 should be fine.
  4. 00:41:322 (4) - Reduce this jump a bit to make it a bit easier with the direction change. Around x:200 seems good.
  5. 00:58:917 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:01:955 (1,2) - I would place them the other way around: the second pattern (the reverse sliders) on 00:58:917 - and the first one on 01:01:955 - , since the second one is easier (it serves as an "introduction" to the rhythm in that part).
  6. 01:37:145 - 01:43:157 - I would reduce the distance of all this part, as this is calmer than the Kiai Time. Specially, I would reduce distance at 01:37:145 (1,2) - because it requires direction change after an hyperdash.
  7. 01:54:613 (9) - Move it to the border to follow the hyperdash movement. Stopping after a x5,30 jump is a skill I would not test in a Platter.
New Combo
  1. 00:19:676 (4) - Add NC
  2. 00:25:752 (5) - Add NC
  3. 00:30:309 (9) - Add NC
  4. 00:30:689 (1) - Remove NC
  5. 00:31:828 (4) - Add NC
  6. 00:34:486 (4) - Add NC
  7. 00:47:018 (5) - Add NC
  8. 00:50:056 (6) - Add NC
  9. 01:11:322 (5) - Add NC
  10. 01:38:664 (6) - Add NC
  11. 01:41:702 (5) - Add NC

[Badis' raIn]
Timeline and Patterns
  1. 00:06:005 (1,2) - Reduce distance, this jump doesn't fit. Move it to x:364
  2. 00:09:930 (9) - Reduce distance, move to x:208 for a better flow
  3. 00:12:714 (4,5) - This hyperdash doesn't fit the music. Also, why don't you try this in the timeline?
    SPOILER
  4. 00:25:499 (5) - Try Ctrl+G on this, you can also move it to the right if you want to keep the small jump. I think it creates a bit more variety (you like to use reversed triangles a lot!)
  5. 00:32:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Since this is not really needed, I'd turn it to a 1/3 stream to reduce note density and reduce Max Combo. This plays fine:
    SPOILER
  6. 00:38:601 (2) - This note is not necessary, remove it (Max Combo reason)
  7. 00:51:892 (2) - Remove note (same reason)
  8. 01:36:385 (7) - Copy 01:36:765 (8) - here
New Combo
  1. 00:07:904 (1) - Remove NC
  2. 00:09:043 (6) - Add NC
  3. 00:24:993 (4) - Add NC
  4. 00:28:031 (7) - Add NC
  5. 00:30:309 (7) - Add NC
  6. 00:42:461 (10) - Add NC
  7. 00:44:360 (9) - Add NC
  8. 00:47:778 (8) - Add NC
  9. 01:03:727 (2) - Add NC
  10. 01:05:246 (6) - Add NC
  11. 01:06:005 (1) - Remove NC
  12. 01:06:765 (5) - Add NC
  13. 01:15:879 (4) - Add NC
  14. 01:20:436 (7) - Add NC
  15. 01:24:993 (3) - Add NC
  16. 01:34:107 (6) - Add NC
  17. 01:38:664 (5) - Add NC
  18. 01:50:816 (5) - Add NC
  19. 01:53:854 (7) - Add NC
Last edited by ZiRoX , edited 1 time in total.
Callionet
Former osu!catch Champion: 2016
240 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Callionet

ZiRoX wrote:

[General Comment]
Each diff is fine, with some minor issues in my opinion. But overall, the spread is not really good: the difference between Max Combo is weird (404 --> 802 --> 913 --> 915) which brings up some score problems (Max Score on Rain is higher than on Overdose).

[Salad]
Timeline and Patterns
  1. 00:45:752 (1,2,3) - Since this is less than 1/1 closer to the spinner, I would start it closer to the center. fixed
  2. 01:35:246 (5,1,2) - I think the jump fits better between (1,2) rather than (5,1). Also, the (5,1) jump is the only time I needed to dash on the song, making it extremely unexpected.fixed
New Combo
  1. 00:22:714 (6) - Add NC added
  2. 00:28:790 (5) - Add NC added
  3. 00:31:828 (5) - Add NC added
  4. 00:47:018 (5) - Add NC added
  5. 00:50:056 (6) - Add NC added
  6. 01:00:562 (1) - Remove NC removed
  7. 01:00:689 (2) - Add NC added
  8. 01:32:588 (4) - Add NC added
  9. 01:35:499 (1) - Remove NC removed
  10. 01:35:626 (2) - Add NC added

[Xingxing's pLatter]
As an overall suggestion, I would try to reduce Max Combo on this diff to create a better spread between diffs.
Song Settings
  1. Slider Velocity 2,50 is too much for a Platter, it's noticeable on the horizontal sliders like this one 01:30:309 (1) -
Timeline and Patterns
  1. 00:10:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Why don't you reduce distance a bit on this part? The song is just starting. Set (4) to x:272, (5) to x:160 and (6) to x:48 to keep the same idea but with a little less distance.
  2. 00:12:018 (9) - I don't think this adds too much to the map. It isn't audible and it doesn't look too good; it also doesn't allow for a jump between 00:11:702 (8,1) - that would fit nicely.
  3. 00:20:056 (5) - Reduce this jump slightly as there's nothing at the song hinting it, something around x2,5 should be fine.
  4. 00:41:322 (4) - Reduce this jump a bit to make it a bit easier with the direction change. Around x:200 seems good.
  5. 00:58:917 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:01:955 (1,2) - I would place them the other way around: the second pattern (the reverse sliders) on 00:58:917 - and the first one on 01:01:955 - , since the second one is easier (it serves as an "introduction" to the rhythm in that part).
  6. 01:37:145 - 01:43:157 - I would reduce the distance of all this part, as this is calmer than the Kiai Time. Specially, I would reduce distance at 01:37:145 (1,2) - because it requires direction change after an hyperdash.
  7. 01:54:613 (9) - Move it to the border to follow the hyperdash movement. Stopping after a x5,30 jump is a skill I would not test in a Platter.
New Combo
  1. 00:19:676 (4) - Add NC
  2. 00:25:752 (5) - Add NC
  3. 00:30:309 (9) - Add NC
  4. 00:30:689 (1) - Remove NC
  5. 00:31:828 (4) - Add NC
  6. 00:34:486 (4) - Add NC
  7. 00:47:018 (5) - Add NC
  8. 00:50:056 (6) - Add NC
  9. 01:11:322 (5) - Add NC
  10. 01:38:664 (6) - Add NC
  11. 01:41:702 (5) - Add NC

[Badis' raIn]
Timeline and Patterns
  1. 00:06:005 (1,2) - Reduce distance, this jump doesn't fit. Move it to x:364
  2. 00:09:930 (9) - Reduce distance, move to x:208 for a better flow
  3. 00:12:714 (4,5) - This hyperdash doesn't fit the music. Also, why don't you try this in the timeline?
    SPOILER
  4. 00:25:499 (5) - Try Ctrl+G on this, you can also move it to the right if you want to keep the small jump. I think it creates a bit more variety (you like to use reversed triangles a lot!)
  5. 00:32:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Since this is not really needed, I'd turn it to a 1/3 stream to reduce note density and reduce Max Combo. This plays fine:
    SPOILER
  6. 00:38:601 (2) - This note is not necessary, remove it (Max Combo reason)
  7. 00:51:892 (2) - Remove note (same reason)
  8. 01:36:385 (7) - Copy 01:36:765 (8) - here
New Combo
  1. 00:07:904 (1) - Remove NC
  2. 00:09:043 (6) - Add NC
  3. 00:24:993 (4) - Add NC
  4. 00:28:031 (7) - Add NC
  5. 00:30:309 (7) - Add NC
  6. 00:42:461 (10) - Add NC
  7. 00:44:360 (9) - Add NC
  8. 00:47:778 (8) - Add NC
  9. 01:03:727 (2) - Add NC
  10. 01:05:246 (6) - Add NC
  11. 01:06:005 (1) - Remove NC
  12. 01:06:765 (5) - Add NC
  13. 01:15:879 (4) - Add NC
  14. 01:20:436 (7) - Add NC
  15. 01:24:993 (3) - Add NC
  16. 01:34:107 (6) - Add NC
  17. 01:38:664 (5) - Add NC
  18. 01:50:816 (5) - Add NC
  19. 01:53:854 (7) - Add NC

[OveRdose]
Soon

waiting for badis and crystal
Badis
416 posts
Joined November 2010
Badis

ZiRoX wrote:

[Badis' raIn]
Timeline and Patterns
  1. 00:06:005 (1,2) - Reduce distance, this jump doesn't fit. Move it to x:364 Fixed
  2. 00:09:930 (9) - Reduce distance, move to x:208 for a better flow True that :o (fixed)
  3. 00:12:714 (4,5) - This hyperdash doesn't fit the music. Also, why don't you try this in the timeline? Yeah why not its true the hyperdash has no place here o/
    SPOILER
  4. 00:25:499 (5) - Try Ctrl+G on this, you can also move it to the right if you want to keep the small jump. I think it creates a bit more variety (you like to use reversed triangles a lot!) Nah I prefer my version its more technique (remember its a rain :p) and yeah this music fit well with reversed triangles so I think I overused it ahah
  5. 00:32:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Since this is not really needed, I'd turn it to a 1/3 stream to reduce note density and reduce Max Combo. This plays fine: I wouldn't change because the music suggest to put streams but to reduce combo seems like I don't have more choise :)
    SPOILER
  6. 00:38:601 (2) - This note is not necessary, remove it (Max Combo reason) Fixed , I changed the pattern because it was too static with this removing
  7. 00:51:892 (2) - Remove note (same reason) Ok , it has better flow without 2 so I didn't change the pattern o/
  8. 01:36:385 (7) - Copy 01:36:765 (8) - here I didn't understand what you wanted to say sorry x) but for decrease combo max I put 2 sliders (the bloc was pretty hard to catch so I wanted to erase him anyway)
New Combo
  1. 00:07:904 (1) - Remove NC
  2. 00:09:043 (6) - Add NC
  3. 00:24:993 (4) - Add NC
  4. 00:28:031 (7) - Add NC
  5. 00:30:309 (7) - Add NC
  6. 00:42:461 (10) - Add NC
  7. 00:44:360 (9) - Add NC
  8. 00:47:778 (8) - Add NC
  9. 01:03:727 (2) - Add NC
  10. 01:05:246 (6) - Add NC
  11. 01:06:005 (1) - Remove NC
  12. 01:06:765 (5) - Add NC
  13. 01:15:879 (4) - Add NC
  14. 01:20:436 (7) - Add NC
  15. 01:24:993 (3) - Add NC
  16. 01:34:107 (6) - Add NC
  17. 01:38:664 (5) - Add NC
  18. 01:50:816 (5) - Add NC
  19. 01:53:854 (7) - Add NC
    Fixed for all :)
Thanks for your modding dude that was intresting and you find good tricks to decrease the combo
Rain : 903 combo (22 078 380) / Overdose : 915 combo (22 213 960)

Tuturu !! :3
osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: mst.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 6005
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.9
BeatDivisor: 3
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.4

[Metadata]
Title:Avalon no oka
TitleUnicode:アヴァロンの丘
Artist:Nekomata Master
ArtistUnicode:猫叉Master
Creator:Intensity
Version:Badis' raIn
Source:REFLEC BEAT groovin'!!
Tags:naoyuki sato badis crystal [_Crystal] takuneru
BeatmapID:512403
BeatmapSetID:218623

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:9
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:2
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Crystal
Former osu!catch Champion: 2018
1,122 posts
Joined June 2012
Crystal

ZiRoX wrote:

[Xingxing's pLatter]
As an overall suggestion, I would try to reduce Max Combo on this diff to create a better spread between diffs. hmm.. it seems better to change STR in salad to 3 :3
Song Settings
  1. Slider Velocity 2,50 is too much for a Platter, it's noticeable on the horizontal sliders like this one 01:30:309 (1) -
Timeline and Patterns
  1. 00:10:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Why don't you reduce distance a bit on this part? The song is just starting. Set (4) to x:272, (5) to x:160 and (6) to x:48 to keep the same idea but with a little less distance. i changed it in my way
  2. 00:12:018 (9) - I don't think this adds too much to the map. It isn't audible and it doesn't look too good; it also doesn't allow for a jump between 00:11:702 (8,1) - that would fit nicely.
  3. 00:20:056 (5) - Reduce this jump slightly as there's nothing at the song hinting it, something around x2,5 should be fine.
  4. 00:41:322 (4) - Reduce this jump a bit to make it a bit easier with the direction change. Around x:200 seems good.
  5. 00:58:917 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:01:955 (1,2) - I would place them the other way around: the second pattern (the reverse sliders) on 00:58:917 - and the first one on 01:01:955 - , since the second one is easier (it serves as an "introduction" to the rhythm in that part).
  6. 01:37:145 - 01:43:157 - I would reduce the distance of all this part, as this is calmer than the Kiai Time. Specially, I would reduce distance at 01:37:145 (1,2) - because it requires direction change after an hyperdash. did some changes in my way so that it's easier
  7. 01:54:613 (9) - Move it to the border to follow the hyperdash movement. Stopping after a x5,30 jump is a skill I would not test in a Platter.
New Combo
  1. 00:19:676 (4) - Add NC
  2. 00:25:752 (5) - Add NC
  3. 00:30:309 (9) - Add NC
  4. 00:30:689 (1) - Remove NC
  5. 00:31:828 (4) - Add NC
  6. 00:34:486 (4) - Add NC
  7. 00:47:018 (5) - Add NC
  8. 00:50:056 (6) - Add NC
  9. 01:11:322 (5) - Add NC
  10. 01:38:664 (6) - Add NC
  11. 01:41:702 (5) - Add NC
no reply = fixed
thank you! :D

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Title:Avalon no oka
TitleUnicode:アヴァロンの丘
Artist:Nekomata Master
ArtistUnicode:猫叉Master
Creator:Intensity
Version:Xingxing's pLatter
Source:REFLEC BEAT groovin'!!
Tags:naoyuki sato badis crystal [_Crystal] takuneru
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-Ryuujii-
259 posts
Joined November 2012
-Ryuujii-

ser_123 wrote:

i didnt say it is unrankable i mean just only or i will give you tipps for that more users playing your map
do you have enough experience in CTB playing/mapping to be giving your "advices" or more like unnecessary criticism. Let the mapper show/map whatever he/she feels like and try to understand what he/she wants to express by his/her mapping style.

p.s Crystal, i love the map, i enjoyed it a lot.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
sorry for delay

[Salad]
01:03:221 (6,7) - move it a bit right? seems most of the patterns can be made without dash, but given the pattern before it, it's kind of hard to catch this without dash.
01:25:246 (2,3) - move left? same idea as 01:03:221 (6,7) - .

[Xingxing's pLatter]
nice

[Badis' raIn]
00:06:195 (2) - start it 1/6 later plz, current rhythm is wrong
00:42:778 (2,3) - imo this 1/6 jump is unnatural to play. it doesnt match anything in the music and there don't seem to be any other 1/6 jumps o.o move (2) left?
00:56:512 (1) - end it 1/6 later. entire song is 1/3, so this rhythm is more natural.
01:11:955 (3) - try this rhythm? http://puu.sh/dtCUe/7b243a9390.jpg imo it's more fitting to have kickslider start on beat
01:13:474 (3,4,5,6,7) - use a repeat slider here to keep consistency? http://puu.sh/dtD31/8305169d0d.jpg
01:40:056 (1) - move it left a bit? imo the change in direction + huge distance makes 01:40:436 (2) - a bit hard to notice.
01:47:778 (1,2,3) - having a back-and-forth + huge distance is a huge stretch to play imo. imo CTRL+G on (2) and move a bit to the right plays a lot better.

[overDose]
00:41:069 (2,3) - imo this jump is kind of a stretch to catch. since the pattern leading up to it flows strongly to the right, a large jump to the left is unexpected. move these a bit closer to each other?
00:50:942 (7,8,9) - imo the change in direction here, followed by a large jump, is a stretch to play (especially when u already have to catch the chaotic pattern before it). imo move 00:51:196 (9,1) - a bit to the right fixes it.
01:22:588 (1) - it's a bit hard to notice this note in time since it's so far to the left. maybe move it right a bit?
01:39:550 (2) - this throws me off every time since 01:39:550 (2,3) - is the opposite direction after the slider ends. might just be me, though
01:40:563 (3,4) - imo this jump is a bit hard to play bc there's a lot of movement before it. i'd move 01:40:499 (2,3) - left a bit to make the distance less.
01:53:854 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - it's so mean to put smth like this at the end of the map :cry: it should be fine though
awesome diff

nice map :D gl
Callionet
Former osu!catch Champion: 2016
240 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Callionet

pieguy1372 wrote:

sorry for delay

[Salad]
01:03:221 (6,7) - move it a bit right? seems most of the patterns can be made without dash, but given the pattern before it, it's kind of hard to catch this without dash.
01:25:246 (2,3) - move left? same idea as 01:03:221 (6,7) - .

[overDose]
00:41:069 (2,3) - imo this jump is kind of a stretch to catch. since the pattern leading up to it flows strongly to the right, a large jump to the left is unexpected. move these a bit closer to each other?
00:50:942 (7,8,9) - imo the change in direction here, followed by a large jump, is a stretch to play (especially when u already have to catch the chaotic pattern before it). imo move 00:51:196 (9,1) - a bit to the right fixes it.
01:22:588 (1) - it's a bit hard to notice this note in time since it's so far to the left. maybe move it right a bit?
01:39:550 (2) - this throws me off every time since 01:39:550 (2,3) - is the opposite direction after the slider ends. might just be me, though
01:40:563 (3,4) - imo this jump is a bit hard to play bc there's a lot of movement before it. i'd move 01:40:499 (2,3) - left a bit to make the distance less.
01:53:854 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - it's so mean to put smth like this at the end of the map :cry: it should be fine though
awesome diff

nice map :D gl

All fixed
:) thx for mod
Badis
416 posts
Joined November 2010
Badis

pieguy1372 wrote:

sorry for delay

[Badis' raIn]
00:06:195 (2) - start it 1/6 later plz, current rhythm is wrong Fixed :)
00:42:778 (2,3) - imo this 1/6 jump is unnatural to play. it doesnt match anything in the music and there don't seem to be any other 1/6 jumps o.o move (2) left? I wanted to create a pattern that requiers a good timing because its a 1/6 but well I can change that o/ (I like the pattern more now ^^ )
00:56:512 (1) - end it 1/6 later. entire song is 1/3, so this rhythm is more natural. Fixed :)
01:11:955 (3) - try this rhythm? http://puu.sh/dtCUe/7b243a9390.jpg imo it's more fitting to have kickslider start on beat thanks for that I didn't noticed the timing were wrong
01:13:474 (3,4,5,6,7) - use a repeat slider here to keep consistency? http://puu.sh/dtD31/8305169d0d.jpg I changed in my way ^^
01:40:056 (1) - move it left a bit? imo the change in direction + huge distance makes 01:40:436 (2) - a bit hard to notice. True that , I changed the whole pattern the flow should be better
01:47:778 (1,2,3) - having a back-and-forth + huge distance is a huge stretch to play imo. imo CTRL+G on (2) and move a bit to the right plays a lot better. Changed the whole pattern , I like it more this way
Thanks for modding dude it was good suggestions :D

Tuturu !! :3
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Serena-
454 posts
Joined December 2012
Serena-
okay first mod since decades ago :P
[General]
First of all, the Difficulty Spread is too unbalanced. the difficulty of the Rain and Overdose is almost the same imo, and the gap between the Salad and Platter is just too much.
Also for the Rain and Overdose, like the streams and stuff the distances between the notes are not even, which makes it look kind of messy. I didn't point these out in the mod, because you guys might have intended it, but it kinda bothers me too..


[Salad]
01:35:246 (5,6) - this is really a tight jump. i suggest you to reduce the distance or move 01:35:626 (1) - (and the rest) to x:504
not much to say, jg

[Xingxing's pLatter]
ar 8.3? that is too fast especially when the Salad is ar 6. i suggest ar8
this Platter breaks the difficulty spread, too hard for a platter(Salad=2.17 stars, Platter=3.85, Rain=4.39, Overdose=4.35)
here are some suggestions to make it easier
the sv is too high try 2 or somewhere close to that
00:09:043 (1) - reduce distance
00:13:600 (1) - ^
00:16:892 (3,4,5,6) - ^
00:33:221 (8,1) - a HD and followed with a slider heading the opposite way is too hard
00:36:385 (1,2) - reduce distance
i won't go on, cuz it will be most of the hard patterns x.x
srsly i actually failed on my first try DTing this

[Badis' raIn]
00:16:765 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - ctrl+h maybe?
00:32:461 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - really bothers me at least increase the volume to 15% plz orz
01:17:904 (2) - x:204
01:18:284 (5) - x:192
01:35:499 (1,2,3,4,5) - dat distance ;w;

[oveRdose]
You should use more HDes imo (places like 00:08:158 (5) - )
00:32:968 (4) - HD or reduce distance plz

I won't really touch this diff, i respect your mapping style c: (becuz if i do mod this, it would be saying like chagne everything)





well good luck~
Badis
416 posts
Joined November 2010
Badis

Serena- wrote:

okay first mod since decades ago :P
[General]
the difficulty of the Rain and Overdose is almost the same
I'll try to decrease the difficulty of my map...I'll try ^^

Serena- wrote:

Also for the Rain and Overdose, like the streams and stuff the distances between the notes are not even, which makes it look kind of messy. I didn't point these out in the mod, because you guys might have intended it, but it kinda bothers me too..
It was made on purpose , I used Intensity's style because it fit well with the music and background , which is a pretty natural art ; so why not create a natural map that sometimes doesn't respect symetry :)

Serena- wrote:

[Badis' raIn]
00:16:765 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - ctrl+h maybe? Changed the whole pattern , I didn't like it now but month ago I thought it was a nice idea ^^'
00:32:461 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - really bothers me at least increase the volume to 15% plz orzDid progressive volume (60 --> 15 %) its more smooth now o/
01:17:904 (2) - x:204 Nope , I really wanted to make this part pretty technical , I changed to 220 bot not less :p
01:18:284 (5) - x:192 Nope , same comment as before x)
01:35:499 (1,2,3,4,5) - dat distance ;w; Changed the whole pattern , I noticed it was repetitive with the last spacing at the end
Thanks for your modding serena :3
Tuturu !! :3
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Callionet
Former osu!catch Champion: 2016
240 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Callionet

Serena- wrote:

okay first mod since decades ago :P
[General]
First of all, the Difficulty Spread is too unbalanced. the difficulty of the Rain and Overdose is almost the same imo, and the gap between the Salad and Platter is just too much.
Also for the Rain and Overdose, like the streams and stuff the distances between the notes are not even, which makes it look kind of messy. I didn't point these out in the mod, because you guys might have intended it, but it kinda bothers me too.. I'll consider.


[Salad]
01:35:246 (5,6) - this is really a tight jump. i suggest you to reduce the distance or move 01:35:626 (1) - (and the rest) to x:504
not much to say, jg reduced


[oveRdose]
You should use more HDes imo (places like 00:08:158 (5) - )
00:32:968 (4) - HD or reduce distance plz reduced

I won't really touch this diff, i respect your mapping style c: (becuz if i do mod this, it would be saying like chagne everything)





well good luck~


thx 4 mod :D
Crystal
Former osu!catch Champion: 2018
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Joined June 2012
Crystal
@Serana-: Fixed the AR, 01:35:246 00:09:043 00:16:892 00:33:221. I made it hard to DT because of Intensity's willing, so sorry, I'm not going to fix other hard patterns. (Btw, I don't think it possible to DT it :P)
Badis
416 posts
Joined November 2010
Badis
I can't go to osu anymore because of my dead graphic card so I won't be able to respond to modding , I let Intensity to modify my diff for me sorry
Edit : my computer is repair I can respond now :)
ZHSteven
osu! Alumni
665 posts
Joined July 2009
ZHSteven
@intensity:
inform me in QQ if you still not give up on this.

Sorry I totally forget this @@
Spectator
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
1,780 posts
Joined February 2011
Spectator

General

  1. Difficulty Spread : Salad diff should have star rating that is lower than 2.00. Also, i know that the star rating system is kinda broken but overdose has to have higher star rating than the rain
  2. Timeline Issues : Inconsistency in Kiai Times, Salad and oveRdose should have the same kiai time
  3. Unsnapped objects : Fine
  4. Audio bitrate over 192 kbps : Fine
  5. Metadata Issues : Consider adding "Xingxing" to all of your tags
  6. Unused hitsounds : Fine
  7. Hitsounds Issues : Consider increase the volume for a bit, it's almost inaudible which is unrankable



Salad

  1. 00:45:119 - It'd be better choice if you shorten the spinner's end so can be placed here. Because it's salad diff
  2. 00:50:056 (1) - This can be moved to x:176 for a better movement imo
  3. 01:03:347 (7,1) - I wonder if having a little jump here could be a nice idea
  4. 01:09:803 (1) - Having an enough space between spinner's end and the very next note is pretty important. You'd better move spinner's end into 01:12:081 -
  5. 01:54:866 (5,6) - You can move these notes to a bit right to have a little jump here. It would fit well with the epic ending of the song



Xingxing's pLatter

  1. Consider change the CS into 3.5 for a better diff spread.
  2. 00:05:879 (9,1) - Hyperdash should exist between (9) and (1) instead of (8) and (9). Consider redesigning this part
  3. 00:13:221 (4) - Please make this more horizontal to make this part flow better
  4. 00:18:157 (1,2) - The jump between (1) and (2) feels rough for a platter, please reduce the distance here for a bit
  5. 00:21:575 (2) - I suggest you to do ctrl+g this slider for a better flow
  6. 00:24:233 (1) - Consider ctrl+g this slider, it may play better imo
  7. 01:02:208 (2,3,4) - There should not be the hyperdashes, please adjust their positions
  8. 01:55:183 - You can reduce the volume here slightly, it sounds pretty loud imo


Badis' raIn

  1. 00:06:259 (2) - You have wrong timeline here, try this
  2. 00:12:461 (2) - This note can be moved to x:282 for a better movement
  3. 00:26:892 (1) - This slider feels kinda awkward to me just because there's reverse, try this
  4. 00:34:107 (4) - Consider moving this to x:92 to have a better flow here
  5. 00:42:841 (2) - It would be much better if there's no reverse, it's same suggestion as 00:26:892 (1) -
  6. 00:45:499 (1) - Try this for a better flow
  7. 01:02:208 (2,5) - Add claps here?
  8. 01:03:727 (1) - How about trying ctrl+g this slider?
  9. 01:12:841 (1) - Consider having a claps on every 2nd / 4th white ticks, it would sound cool imo :p
  10. 01:13:347 (2) - Please move this note to a bit left for a better movement
  11. 01:17:904 (2,3,5,6) - Remove finishes on the each notes, you should not spam finishes
  12. 01:18:537 (7) - Same as above. Remove finishes on the reverse / tail of the slider
  13. 01:24:233 (2) - It feels pretty hard to me. Consider making it vertical slightly
  14. 01:29:297 (4,5) - I think it would be nice to have hdash between (4) and (5). How about adding one here?
  15. 01:37:524 (2,3) - The jump here is kinda unforgiving, please consider adding hdash between (2) and (3)
  16. 01:39:297 (4,5,6,7,8) - So are these notes very hard. I recommend you to reduce the distances for a bit
  17. 01:53:094 (5) - How about ctrl+g this and moving it to x:336? It would play better imo


Overdose

  1. There's no HDashes at all but I kind of enjoyed this diff. You may remove some timed jumps but still it feels nicely mapped to me. Great job :3
  2. 00:10:689 (2) - How about moving this to x:280? It may make the flow better
  3. 00:53:221 (2,3,4) - Please move (2)~(4) to the right slightly, it's pretty tricky imo
  4. 00:53:980 (2,3,4,5) - Same as above. Try move them to a bit left
  5. 01:05:879 (6,1,2) - This part feels pretty rough to me, please move (1) to x:320
  6. 01:15:879 (1,2,3) - Please consider moving (2) to x:236 for a better movement
  7. 01:26:639 (2) - I suggest you to move this note to x:71, it feels way too tricky to me
  8. 01:54:487 (6) - Please move (6) to the right for a bit. I don't want to see people making a miss here
  9. 01:54:993 (2) - You can add a little jump here to make the ending more epic imo. So how about moving (2) to a bit left?

Try gather some more mods and call me back!
Badis
416 posts
Joined November 2010
Badis

Spectator wrote:

General

  1. Difficulty Spread : Salad diff should have star rating that is lower than 2.00. Also, i know that the star rating system is kinda broken but overdose has to have higher star rating than the rain When I made my diff it was on star system 2 and mine were lower than intensity's one back in the time ;_; , if its really a issue I'll reconsider that


    Badis' raIn

    1. 00:06:259 (2) - You have wrong timeline here, try this Fixed with alternative one :)
    2. 00:12:461 (2) - This note can be moved to x:282 for a better movement Indeed its more clean that way
    3. 00:26:892 (1) - This slider feels kinda awkward to me just because there's reverse, try this Fixed o/
    4. 00:34:107 (4) - Consider moving this to x:92 to have a better flow here Oh excellent idea the position is great here !!
    5. 00:42:841 (2) - It would be much better if there's no reverse, it's same suggestion as 00:26:892 (1) - Fixed
    6. 00:45:499 (1) - Try this for a better flow Nope , it was on purpose it respect the flow at the end I love this kind of patterns ;w;
    7. 01:02:208 (2,5) - Add claps here? Added claps on 2,3,4,5 I think it sound better :D
    8. 01:03:727 (1) - How about trying ctrl+g this slider? Nope sorry thats one of my favorite pattern on this diff , it lack intensity with ctrl + g ;w;
    9. 01:12:841 (1) - Consider having a claps on every 2nd / 4th white ticks, it would sound cool imo :p Excellent :D
    10. 01:13:347 (2) - Please move this note to a bit left for a better movement Its true I wasn't sure about this position thanks for telling me it
    11. 01:17:904 (2,3,5,6) - Remove finishes on the each notes, you should not spam finishes Did alternative HS on that part I hope you'll like it ;w;
    12. 01:18:537 (7) - Same as above. Remove finishes on the reverse / tail of the slider Fixed
    13. 01:24:233 (2) - It feels pretty hard to me. Consider making it vertical slightly Indeed , I thought a lot on this part , before that it had an hyperdash right before the bloc so I changed that , seems like its still too hard xD
    14. 01:29:297 (4,5) - I think it would be nice to have hdash between (4) and (5). How about adding one here? Changed the whole pattern because of HD, I think its easier this way
    15. 01:37:524 (2,3) - The jump here is kinda unforgiving, please consider adding hdash between (2) and (3) Yeah you're right , I did this way because I thought it repetitive but its better than unforgiving ahah
    16. 01:39:297 (4,5,6,7,8) - So are these notes very hard. I recommend you to reduce the distances for a bit Fixed o/
    17. 01:53:094 (5) - How about ctrl+g this and moving it to x:336? It would play better imo
The flow is excellent thanks :D
Thanks for the mod it really make the map better :)
http://puu.sh/fIjRP/91c2d746ad.osu
Last edited by Badis , edited 1 time in total.
Callionet
Former osu!catch Champion: 2016
240 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Callionet

Spectator wrote:

General




  • Salad

  1. 00:45:119 - It'd be better choice if you shorten the spinner's end so can be placed here. Because it's salad diff
  2. 00:50:056 (1) - This can be moved to x:176 for a better movement imo
  3. 01:03:347 (7,1) - I wonder if having a little jump here could be a nice idea
  4. 01:09:803 (1) - Having an enough space between spinner's end and the very next note is pretty important. You'd better move spinner's end into 01:12:081 -
  5. 01:54:866 (5,6) - You can move these notes to a bit right to have a little jump here. It would fit well with the epic ending of the song
Salad all fixed


Overdose

  1. There's no HDashes at all but I kind of enjoyed this diff. You may remove some timed jumps but still it feels nicely mapped to me. Great job :3
  2. 00:10:689 (2) - How about moving this to x:280? It may make the flow better no,but i put like this
  3. 00:53:221 (2,3,4) - Please move (2)~(4) to the right slightly, it's pretty tricky imo fixed
  4. 00:53:980 (2,3,4,5) - Same as above. Try move them to a bit left fixed
  5. 01:05:879 (6,1,2) - This part feels pretty rough to me, please move (1) to x:320 fixed
  6. 01:15:879 (1,2,3) - Please consider moving (2) to x:236 for a better movement fixed
  7. 01:26:639 (2) - I suggest you to move this note to x:71, it feels way too tricky to me fixed
  8. 01:54:487 (6) - Please move (6) to the right for a bit. I don't want to see people making a miss here fixed
  9. 01:54:993 (2) - You can add a little jump here to make the ending more epic imo. So how about moving (2) to a bit left? good
Crystal
Former osu!catch Champion: 2018
1,122 posts
Joined June 2012
Crystal
@Spectator: all fixed! thanks!
CLSW
osu! Alumni
2,182 posts
Joined October 2010
CLSW
[General]
Max combo gap between Salad and Platter is too much. Try to reduce Platter diff's max combo to 600~700s.

[Salad]
00:40:942 (1) - At least I wanna see some movements here, x : 384 would be best imo.
00:48:537 (1) - To keep consistency with 00:49:297 (4) - , Move tail's position on x : 112.

Very nice diff! I like it.

[Platter]
00:20:056 (2,3) - You can add a jump here.
00:26:512 (3,4,5) - Looks like too extreme for platter difficulty,
try this.
00:27:271 (1,2) - Better remove this jump, since it doesn't fit with any rhythm.
00:29:170 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - OMFG, the jump distance between (3) and (6) is pretty large, better reduce it and don't make a repetitive movement on 00:29:297 (3,4) - . Those are like Rain~Overdose level pattern overall.
00:37:904 (1,2,3,4) - Since you didn't use any jumps for 00:34:486 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this part, so why don't you remove the jumps either?
00:40:942 (1,2,3) - Same reason as 00:29:170 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - .
01:01:955 (1,2) - Same reason as 00:26:512 (3,4,5) - , those are really hard to manage.
01:05:246 (5) - Wasn't it too boring? Try to make more movements here.
01:13:854 (4) - Remove this and add a repeat on 01:13:600 (3) - , it's too extreme.
01:26:512 (1) - x : 272 seems much better for me.
01:33:474 (5) - x : 392 for consistency.
01:43:980 (5) - Nope, please flip and replace on ideal position.
01:53:347 (1) - Move this slider on 01:53:474 , and add a beat on 01:53:347 instead. Ofc remove 01:53:727 (5) - for next.

[Rain]
00:09:043 (1) - Looks like it's not enough. Try to move its tail on x : 288?
00:23:094 (2) - Why don't you place it on the left side? It looks much better.
00:24:993 (1) - Make the repeats' end on 00:25:246 . The rhythm doesn't make sense anymore.
00:30:309 (1) - Same with the above.
00:40:309 (5,6) - I know that you wanna match its rhythm with drum/castanets sound, but since you already used mainstream on 00:39:423 (1,2,3,4) - , so this should've confused for sightread-players. I'd redesign the timeline here with
this.
00:46:195 (5) - Is this intentional? If not, move it on x : 192.
00:52:714 (6,1) - You can add a jump here.
00:55:942 - I wanna see a beat on here.
00:58:664 (6) - Remove the slider and try with this :
SPOILER
01:49:233 - Unnecessary green line. Please remove it.

[Overdose]
00:19:550 (6) - Just a small suggestion, add a beat here with x : 272 position would be nice though.
00:29:677 (2,5) - Not a good choice. (2) for x : 232 and (5) for x : 408 seems fine.
00:51:196 (9,1) - Could you make more movements between both? Seems it's not enough.
01:12:461 (4) - I know you don't want HDashes on this difficulty, but at least I'd like to see if there's an HDash on its tail.
01:20:056 (6) - x : 272 for easier flow.

Very nice work overall, good luck!
Badis
416 posts
Joined November 2010
Badis

CLSW wrote:

[General]
[Rain]
00:09:043 (1) - Looks like it's not enough. Try to move its tail on x : 288? Nope I wanted to make the movement static and then have a full acceleration during the high pitched sound
00:23:094 (2) - Why don't you place it on the left side? It looks much better.Yeah it looks much better but I don't know if I'll make it :
-Its a rain , should be more accessible than the Overdose one
-I wanted to respect a little Intensity's style and have the less hyperdashes possible
-If I do control + H I have 4.44 --> 4.45 stars , its getting closer to the overdose in term of stars (I know the pp system is fucked up but thats the rule...)
00:24:993 (1) - Make the repeats' end on 00:25:246 . The rhythm doesn't make sense anymore. Fixed
00:30:309 (1) - Same with the above. Fixed
00:40:309 (5,6) - I know that you wanna match its rhythm with drum/castanets sound, but since you already used mainstream on 00:39:423 (1,2,3,4) - , so this should've confused for sightread-players. I'd redesign the timeline here with
this.
You're totally right thanks for notice this huge mistake :D
00:46:195 (5) - Is this intentional? If not, move it on x : 192. Yes it was intentional but I prefer your idea so I fixed it o/
00:52:714 (6,1) - You can add a jump here. Really god idea I made a pattern with good feelings now thanks ;w;
00:55:942 - I wanna see a beat on here. I added a beat here : 00:56:005 - I think it follow more the drums that way
00:58:664 (6) - Remove the slider and try with this :
SPOILER
Excellent idea but I reduced distance between 6 ans 5 I feel its too hard to catch that one on your picture , but the idea is still the same thanks o/
01:49:233 - Unnecessary green line. Please remove it. Indeed dunno why I made this one x) , fixed o/


Very nice work overall, good luck!
Thanks CLSW that was an useful mod :D
http://puu.sh/gpmUH/e49fef2445.osu
Crystal
Former osu!catch Champion: 2018
1,122 posts
Joined June 2012
Crystal

CLSW wrote:

[General]
Max combo gap between Salad and Platter is too much. Try to reduce Platter diff's max combo to 600~700s. 598->801->913 isn't really a problem imo, for http://osu.ppy.sh/b/308262 has similar gap (239->385->467). you know it is hard to reduce combos in a map.. :(

[Platter]
00:20:056 (2,3) - You can add a jump here. i ctrl+g'd the 3rd
00:26:512 (3,4,5) - Looks like too extreme for platter difficulty, okay
try this.
00:27:271 (1,2) - Better remove this jump, since it doesn't fit with any rhythm. okay
00:29:170 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - OMFG, the jump distance between (3) and (6) is pretty large, better reduce it and don't make a repetitive movement on 00:29:297 (3,4) - . Those are like Rain~Overdose level pattern overall. i reduced distance here, seems better now
00:37:904 (1,2,3,4) - Since you didn't use any jumps for 00:34:486 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this part, so why don't you remove the jumps either?
00:40:942 (1,2,3) - Same reason as 00:29:170 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - .
01:01:955 (1,2) - Same reason as 00:26:512 (3,4,5) - , those are really hard to manage. fixed all these spacing issues
01:05:246 (5) - Wasn't it too boring? Try to make more movements here. fixed
01:13:854 (4) - Remove this and add a repeat on 01:13:600 (3) - , it's too extreme. ok
01:26:512 (1) - x : 272 seems much better for me. fixed
01:33:474 (5) - x : 392 for consistency. fixed
01:43:980 (5) - Nope, please flip and replace on ideal position. maybe fixed this, i didn't get it clearly ;w;
01:53:347 (1) - Move this slider on 01:53:474 , and add a beat on 01:53:347 instead. Ofc remove 01:53:727 (5) - for next. hmm why i should remove that beat? sound there is clear imo..

Very nice work overall, good luck!
thanks! :)
Callionet
Former osu!catch Champion: 2016
240 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Callionet

CLSW wrote:

[General]


[Salad]
00:40:942 (1) - At least I wanna see some movements here, x : 384 would be best imo.
00:48:537 (1) - To keep consistency with 00:49:297 (4) - , Move tail's position on x : 112.

[Overdose]
00:19:550 (6) - Just a small suggestion, add a beat here with x : 272 position would be nice though.
00:29:677 (2,5) - Not a good choice. (2) for x : 232 and (5) for x : 408 seems fine.
00:51:196 (9,1) - Could you make more movements between both? Seems it's not enough.
01:12:461 (4) - I know you don't want HDashes on this difficulty, but at least I'd like to see if there's an HDash on its tail.
01:20:056 (6) - x : 272 for easier flow.
all fixed! :)
Negri_sk
298 posts
Joined January 2013
Negri_sk
[oveRdose]
00:04:487 (1) - x128
00:04:613 (2,3,4) - x352
00:04:993 (6,7,8) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2872906
00:05:246 (1) - x152 CTRL+G
00:05:626 (2) - x456 CTRL+G
00:07:525 (1) - x104
00:07:905 (2) - x48
00:08:284 (6) - x400
00:10:056 (7) - x432
00:13:221 (9) - x432
00:12:208 (2) - x288
00:16:132 (5) - x264
00:16:259 (6) - x312
Will mod more later on.
Callionet
Former osu!catch Champion: 2016
240 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Callionet

Negri_sk wrote:

[oveRdose]
00:04:487 (1) - x128 no
00:04:613 (2,3,4) - x352 no
00:04:993 (6,7,8) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2872906 no
00:05:246 (1) - x152 CTRL+G no
00:05:626 (2) - x456 CTRL+G no
00:07:525 (1) - x104 okay
00:07:905 (2) - x48 no
00:08:284 (6) - x400 no
00:10:056 (7) - x432 no
00:13:221 (9) - x432 no
00:12:208 (2) - x288 no
00:16:132 (5) - x264 no
00:16:259 (6) - x312 no
nice mod.
Manuxz
642 posts
Joined July 2012
Manuxz
Hi o/

Mod at the request of Badis in game xD

General: I think you could consider adding one or two colors of combo to make contrast to these two shades of green you got now.

Salad

00:04:486 (1) - Ctrl+H and move at x: 433 To distance a little of 00:04:107 (5) -
00:07:524 (5) - The head of this slider in x: 209 and y: 336 to tilt the slider and distance it from the previous note.
00:21:195 (1,2) - Move both notes at x: 96, so that it looks so --> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2880300 and have the balanced movement
00:26:132 (3,5) - Tilt both sliders a bit to create more movement, something so --> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2880330
00:34:107 (3) - You could have worked harder with these sliders http://puu.sh/gxFE0/a8d2f582dc.jpg
00:37:145 (3) - ^ http://puu.sh/gxFRn/67d353a57e.jpg
00:39:803 (2) - Move at x:312 and 00:40:562 (4) - move at x: 71 This pattern would be better here
00:45:499 (1,2,3,4) - Try this pattern --> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2880394
00:50:056 (1) - Move at x:188 for better symmetry
00:50:816 (3) - ^ :v
00:55:373 (1,2) - Move both notes at x: 400 to separate the previous pattern
00:58:031 (1,2,3) - Use the distance snap in 1.1 and separates the notes
01:02:841 (4,5) - Move both notes at x: 264
01:04:107 (1) - Move at x: 238 for better symmetry
01:05:246 (1,2,3,4) - Try this --> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2880439 >_>
01:17:398 (5) - Tr this --> http://puu.sh/gxFkf/6e05caa38f.jpg o.o
01:21:955 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I think this pattern would be more fun --> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2880454
01:24:233 (4) - Move at x: 72 To distance out of the following notes
01:25:373 (3) - Ctrl+H Maybe e.e
01:55:183 - Add Spin here to be consistent with other diffs o3o that finish in 01:56:892 -

Xingxing's Platter

00:03:347 (2) - Ctrl+H and move at the same place where it was x:224 :p
00:04:486 (1,2,3) - Try this pattern --> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2880592 D:
00:05:879 (9) - Move at x: 208 better emphasize the HDash in the finish of 00:06:005 (1) -
00:09:423 (2) - Tilt the slider to the left
00:12:461 (2) - Tilt the slider to the left. I would say it should be horizontal
00:21:955 (3) - ^
00:24:233 (1) - Same as the above except that right
00:28:411 (5) - Tilt to the right
00:47:018 (1) - Tilt to the left
01:02:588 (4) - Move at x: 312
01:33:474 (5) - Move at x: 372 for better symmetry
01:53:727 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2) - Slightly reduce the distance of the HDash is very difficult for a Platter

Badis' Rain

00:05:752 (5,6) - Move (5) at x:135 and (6) at x: 49 then move 00:06:005 (7) - at x: 256 to emphasize the finish and move 00:06:385 (8) - at x:148
00:10:309 (5) - Move at x:310 for better symmetry
00:10:942 (3) - Move at x:302 ^
00:11:195 (2) - Move at x:292 ^
00:13:600 (1) - Ctrl+H Maybe :d
00:18:157 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think you could use more distance between these sliders
00:22:588 (9) - Move at x:208 for better symmetry
00:23:474 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Try this --> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2880726
00:45:879 (2) - Move at x:96 for better symmetry
00:47:398 (5) - Move at x:414 ^
00:49:043 (2) - Move at x:339 ^
00:50:056 (6) - Move at x:146 ^
01:18:157 (4,5,6) - Move this notes at x:288
01:18:537 (7) - Ctrl+G and move at x:196
01:55:183 - Add Spin here to be consistent with other diffs o3o that finish in 01:56:892 -

About streams: I think you could do the most interesting streams, which you are now a bit boring, it just wait for them to finish falling fruit. Since it's a Rain I think you could create a more interesting pattern streams, is a Rain Badis and I want to move nonstop XDD

Combos

00:03:727 (7) - Add NC
00:06:005 (7) - ^
00:10:436 (1) - Remove NC
00:11:069 (1) - ^
00:10:562 (7) - Add NC
00:16:259 (8,1) - Exchange NC
00:17:778 (10,1) - ^
00:18:157 (2,5) - Add NC
00:21:955 (6) - ^
00:41:702 (5) - ^
00:50:816 (4) - ^
00:53:854 (6) - ^
00:58:790 (7) - ^
01:09:170 (6) - ^
01:10:942 (7) - ^
01:20:436 (7) - ^
01:22:714 (5) - ^
01:31:069 (3) - ^
01:37:904 (3) - ^
01:39:423 (5) - ^
01:43:980 (6) - ^
01:48:537 (3) - ^

Overdose

I was surprised this diff, after a long time I see the mapping style that had Steven in this diff o3o It has some problems of symmetry but not want to bother with it since the patterns are very good xD

Good luck with the map guys o/
Callionet
Former osu!catch Champion: 2016
240 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Callionet

Manuxz wrote:

Salad

00:04:486 (1) - Ctrl+H and move at x: 433 To distance a little of 00:04:107 (5) -
00:07:524 (5) - The head of this slider in x: 209 and y: 336 to tilt the slider and distance it from the previous note.
00:21:195 (1,2) - Move both notes at x: 96, so that it looks so --> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2880300 and have the balanced movement
00:26:132 (3,5) - Tilt both sliders a bit to create more movement, something so --> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2880330
00:34:107 (3) - You could have worked harder with these sliders http://puu.sh/gxFE0/a8d2f582dc.jpg
00:37:145 (3) - ^ http://puu.sh/gxFRn/67d353a57e.jpg
00:39:803 (2) - Move at x:312 and 00:40:562 (4) - move at x: 71 This pattern would be better here
00:45:499 (1,2,3,4) - Try this pattern --> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2880394
00:50:056 (1) - Move at x:188 for better symmetry
00:50:816 (3) - ^ :v
00:55:373 (1,2) - Move both notes at x: 400 to separate the previous pattern
00:58:031 (1,2,3) - Use the distance snap in 1.1 and separates the notes
01:02:841 (4,5) - Move both notes at x: 264
01:04:107 (1) - Move at x: 238 for better symmetry
01:05:246 (1,2,3,4) - Try this --> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2880439 >_>
01:17:398 (5) - Tr this --> http://puu.sh/gxFkf/6e05caa38f.jpg o.o
01:21:955 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I think this pattern would be more fun --> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2880454
01:24:233 (4) - Move at x: 72 To distance out of the following notes
01:25:373 (3) - Ctrl+H Maybe e.e
01:55:183 - Add Spin here to be consistent with other diffs o3o that finish in 01:56:892 -
salad all fixed :D
Badis
416 posts
Joined November 2010
Badis

Manuxz wrote:

Hi o/

Mod at the request of Badis in game xD
Badis' Rain

00:05:752 (5,6) - Move (5) at x:135 and (6) at x: 49 then move 00:06:005 (7) - at x: 256 to emphasize the finish and move 00:06:385 (8) - at x:148
Not bad son I agree with that we notice better the finish ;w;
00:10:309 (5) - Move at x:310 for better symmetry Nope , I prefer when 00:10:309 (5,1) - are closer each other its easier that way
00:10:942 (3) - Move at x:302 ^ Fixed
00:11:195 (2) - Move at x:292 ^Fixed
00:13:600 (1) - Ctrl+H Maybe :d Nope , the jump is too long and the slider is too hard to catch that way
00:18:157 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think you could use more distance between these sliders Indeed , its too static there , fixed o/
00:22:588 (9) - Move at x:208 for better symmetry Fixed with alternative pattern
00:23:474 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Try this --> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2880726 Did something else but thanks for the idea ;w;
00:45:879 (2) - Move at x:96 for better symmetry Fixed
00:47:398 (5) - Move at x:414 ^ Nope I prefer that way its easier to read rather than a line
00:49:043 (2) - Move at x:339 ^ I don't think straight lines are alaways good , I prefer to keep this up for the movement ;w;
00:50:056 (6) - Move at x:146 ^ Nope I have a better feeling at x:176
01:18:157 (4,5,6) - Move this notes at x:288 Nope thats my favorite pattern I won't change it at all x)
01:18:537 (7) - Ctrl+G and move at x:196 Great idea !! ;w; dpne o/
01:55:183 - Add Spin here to be consistent with other diffs o3o that finish in 01:56:892 - Indeed thats true x)

About streams: I think you could do the most interesting streams, which you are now a bit boring, it just wait for them to finish falling fruit. Since it's a Rain I think you could create a more interesting pattern streams, is a Rain Badis and I want to move nonstop XDD
-Don't forget this music has no pauses and we have to give some break to players , thats why vertical streams
-Overdose hasn't streams it would means Rain has more things to offer so it means it can be harder
-I don't feel this music needs streams anyway , its just a note that is hold , its not like theses streams follow the music you see
Combos

00:03:727 (7) - Add NC
00:06:005 (7) - ^
00:10:436 (1) - Remove NC
00:11:069 (1) - ^
00:10:562 (7) - Add NC
00:16:259 (8,1) - Exchange NC
00:17:778 (10,1) - ^
00:18:157 (2,5) - Add NC
00:21:955 (6) - ^
00:41:702 (5) - ^
00:50:816 (4) - ^
00:53:854 (6) - ^
00:58:790 (7) - ^
01:09:170 (6) - ^
01:10:942 (7) - ^
01:20:436 (7) - ^
01:22:714 (5) - ^
01:31:069 (3) - ^
01:37:904 (3) - ^
01:39:423 (5) - ^
01:43:980 (6) - ^
01:48:537 (3) - ^
Fixed all o/
Good luck with the map guys o/
Thanks for this mod , don't be afraid of all theses no its just our style mapping aren''t really the same , or else you gave me some good idea so I'm happy :D
I won't forget to mod yours promise ;w; bye mate o/////////
http://puu.sh/gz5Uq/cd4bf4e715.osu
Crystal
Former osu!catch Champion: 2018
1,122 posts
Joined June 2012
Crystal
@Manuxz: all fixed! great thanks!

update
osu file format v14

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Razor Sharp
1,151 posts
Joined October 2013
Razor Sharp
Avalon no oka [Badis Rain]
my part of the m4m
Still learning to mod!

Badis's Rain
00:39:297 (7) - Maybe move it more to the right, as it becomes a hyper? seems more fitting
00:42:841 (2) - change direction the slider goes to give it a better flow
00:58:664 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - try to keep them to the same spacing, its a bitt annoying to read this part
01:18:284 (5) - move more to the left to make it a hyper, same reason as 00:39:297 (7)
01:42:588 (6) - move it more to the right, i feel like there should be hyper here

Thats all i got for now. good luck!
Badis
416 posts
Joined November 2010
Badis

Razor Sharp wrote:

Avalon no oka [Badis Rain]
my part of the m4m
Still learning to mod!

Badis's Rain
00:39:297 (7) - Maybe move it more to the right, as it becomes a hyper? seems more fitting I decrease distance between (6) and (7) but didn't make 7 as an hyperdash , the whole pattern would be too complex for a rain
00:42:841 (2) - change direction the slider goes to give it a better flow Nope , it was a purpose , a little antiflow for more zig zag movements ;w;
00:58:664 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - try to keep them to the same spacing, its a bitt annoying to read this part Nope , its harder if I keep the same spacing , and its not that hard to read its only simple lines
01:18:284 (5) - move more to the left to make it a hyper, same reason as 00:39:297 (7) Nope , I won't change this pattern I find it perfect x)
01:42:588 (6) - move it more to the right, i feel like there should be hyper here If I move it more to the right , its gonna be a double hyper , too complex
Thats all i got for now. good luck!
Thanks for your work o/
http://puu.sh/gGbe8/a2169ead66.osu
Krah
osu! Alumni
1,023 posts
Joined March 2012
Krah
Summoned by Badis. (Sorry for the delay ...)

[General]

  1. Spectator wrote:

    Metadata Issues : Consider adding "Xingxing" to all of your tags
    Cool to add it but why ?
  2. I don't totally understand the idea to have a caps in each diffname but you are clearly missing one in the salad D:
  3. The main problem just now is your spread. I personally don't really care about the combos and for me they are ok.
    But actually your settings are an issue and specially the hp and ar. So just to remind what you have now.
    HP : 5 / 6,3 / 6 / 6,3
    AR : 6 / 8,3 / 9 / 9,2
    Hp increase is weird and actually not even a thing. To change the platter one to 5,5 - 5,8 will fix it.
    A 8,3 ar platter can be ok but not with a 6 salad. The gap is too important just now, 8 seems more reasonable.

    A part from that the salad/platter gap seems still a bit weird in term of difficulty


    [Salad]
    To note : this part of the mod was done before the Manuxz's mod
    I will not lie. To aim for a correct spread in a 1/3map with just a salad isn't the best idea. You can blame the star rating but just now your salad is just a hard cup (and actually a cup with just 2 moment where you have to dash 00:40:942 (1,2) - & 01:52:714 (3,4,5) - )
    I know you should aim for less than 2stars but it's still upon to bat discretion so if it's not less than it's not a big issue.
    Also your kiai mapping seems to be pretty similar to the the non-kiai part. Consider to add your jumps in thoses parts
    1. 00:40:942 (1,2,3) - Reduce the (1,2) spacing here it don't deserve one of the few dash of your map, try to move (2) to x=80 and (3) to x=24
    2. 00:48:917 (2,3) - Could be a jump, move (3,4,5) to x=368
    3. 00:51:955 (2,3,4) - A bit more spacing again, not a dash here but just x=216 for (3,4) should be ok
    4. 00:54:233 (4,1,2,3) - Same again and again for the sake of your kiai, move (1,2,3) to x=280
    5. 01:00:310 (4) - Move it to x=112 for a better flow
    6. 01:15:499 (5,1) - More spacing for the kiai again. Move (1) to x=400 and you can try this kind of shape for your slider http://puu.sh/gv2RA/46ad3e818b.jpg
    7. 01:23:347 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - All this part is so crowded ... 01:23:347 (1,2,3,4) - Try to move all those a bit to the right not be totally aligned with the previous 2-et and for 01:24:233 (4,5,1) - not specially a dash who is needed here but some spacing at least. Try to to move (5) to x=408 & (1) to x=376 or even more depending of how you moved the part before.

    [Platter]
    Ok just now it's hard ...
    It seem you used 1,0* +/- everywhere but with a 2,5slider velocity it's not the best idea...
    It could be ok but there is also a huge lack of some breaks for example from the beginning to 00:18:917 - idem from 00:24:233 - to 00:39:043 - ... You have to admit when you map a platter that you can't map everything. And it's probably one of the reason why people say that your "combo gap" isn't that good ... Weirdly currently one of the part without this issue is your first kiai ...
    So now for the mod.
    As I said you should change your ar and hp for spread logic purpose.
    Some example of thing that you can delete : 00:06:132 - 00:07:651 - 00:10:689 - 00:11:069 - ...

    1. 00:06:765 (5) - 00:08:284 (5) - Another example of thing that you can "delete", just remove the repeat here (keep the 1/3 slider) and same go for all the same.
    2. 00:30:309 (1,2) - Hdash in platter are supposed to have a real reason. This one isn't really justified please remove it by changing for example your (2) shape.
    3. 00:37:651 (4,5) - Missing whistles ?
    4. 00:43:980 (7) - Nc
    5. 01:17:398 (6) - Nc
    6. 01:28:031 (3) - Nc, please don't have combo who overlap your kiais. And actually this note should be a spinner till 01:30:119 -
    7. 01:26:132 (6,1,2,3,1,2) - You don't have any hdash in your kiai other than here. It's a bit weird difficulty spike just now. Also the double hdash at the end can be quickly a pain to fc specially due to slidertick misses.
    8. 01:53:347 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2) - Either reduce the spacing or remove some hdash here. It's ok to have a cool end but not a totally evil like that.
    [Badis's Rain]

    1. 00:10:562 (7) - Nc
    2. 00:14:107 (3,4) - Don't really understand why you use a hdash here. I mean it will be more logic to have it here 00:13:474 (8,1) - (especially since you also have one here 00:14:993 (8,1) - )
    3. 00:17:651 (9,1) - Don't think the hdash here is totally justified. Will look more logic to have it here 00:17:778 (1,1) -
    4. 00:30:689 (2,3) - Really easy to miss the slidertick here with this shape of slider and a hdash
    5. 01:18:031 (3,4,5) - (4,5) jump is a bit too hard after a hdash for a rain.
    6. 01:24:233 (2) - 01:36:385 (7) - Hitsounds from notes and sliders must be audible. No 5% isn't audible
    7. 01:42:082 (2,3,4,5) - A bit hard in a rain too use this kind of pattern just after a hdash
[Overdose]

Totally not sure if more than ar9 is the best idea for this kind of mapping. Personnally I would even prefer for less than 9. A good diff anyway. You managed to avoid the trap of this kind of diff by missing the need of pause. Well made =)

[]

Map are clean but spread is really really really weird for me ...
Hope it'll help.
Badis
416 posts
Joined November 2010
Badis

Krah wrote:

Summoned by Badis. (Sorry for the delay ...) Its ok hue :p

[Badis's Rain]

  1. 00:10:562 (7) - Nc True that , fixed
  2. 00:14:107 (3,4) - Don't really understand why you use a hdash here. I mean it will be more logic to have it here 00:13:474 (8,1) - (especially since you also have one here 00:14:993 (8,1) - ) Indeed thats true it would be more logic that way , excellent idea mate o/ changed the whole pattern
  3. 00:17:651 (9,1) - Don't think the hdash here is totally justified. Will look more logic to have it here 00:17:778 (1,1) - Yeah true again , changed the whole pattern :)
  4. 00:30:689 (2,3) - Really easy to miss the slidertick here with this shape of slider and a hdash It was made on purpose , if you take the hyperdash and don't move it fit well with the silence we get here before restarting again
  5. 01:18:031 (3,4,5) - (4,5) jump is a bit too hard after a hdash for a rain. Nope , thats the climax of the music , I think the intensity there fit well
  6. 01:24:233 (2) - 01:36:385 (7) - Hitsounds from notes and sliders must be audible. No 5% isn't audible It was made on purpose
    -1st one : it emphasize more the little sound behind the music and this patterns requires to not move , its not like the HS will affect the gameplay there
    -2nd one : changed the volume to 30 % ;w;
  7. 01:42:082 (2,3,4,5) - A bit hard in a rain too use this kind of pattern just after a hdash
Changed 01:41:955 (1) - to X=436 , would be easier to take the hyperdah and then do the whole pattern , but I don't think its thats hard tbh the antiflow isn't that big because of these "almost" vertical double fruits

[Overdose]

Totally not sure if more than ar9 is the best idea for this kind of mapping. Personnally I would even prefer for less than 9. A good diff anyway. You managed to avoid the trap of this kind of diff by missing the need of pause. Well made =)

[]

Map are clean but spread is really really really weird for me ...
Hope it'll help.
Thanks mate that mod was great it made the map more in symbiosis with da music ;w;
We'll do our best to make the spread better too o/
http://puu.sh/gXxIA/15e5dc3239.osu
Callionet
Former osu!catch Champion: 2016
240 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Callionet

Krah wrote:

Summoned by Badis. (Sorry for the delay ...)

[General]

  1. Spectator wrote:

    Metadata Issues : Consider adding "Xingxing" to all of your tags
    Cool to add it but why ? xingxing=crystal


    [Salad]
    To note : this part of the mod was done before the Manuxz's mod
    I will not lie. To aim for a correct spread in a 1/3map with just a salad isn't the best idea. You can blame the star rating but just now your salad is just a hard cup (and actually a cup with just 2 moment where you have to dash 00:40:942 (1,2) - & 01:52:714 (3,4,5) - )
    I know you should aim for less than 2stars but it's still upon to bat discretion so if it's not less than it's not a big issue.
    Also your kiai mapping seems to be pretty similar to the the non-kiai part. Consider to add your jumps in thoses parts
    1. 00:40:942 (1,2,3) - Reduce the (1,2) spacing here it don't deserve one of the few dash of your map, try to move (2) to x=80 and (3) to x=24
    2. 00:48:917 (2,3) - Could be a jump, move (3,4,5) to x=368
    3. 00:51:955 (2,3,4) - A bit more spacing again, not a dash here but just x=216 for (3,4) should be ok
    4. 00:54:233 (4,1,2,3) - Same again and again for the sake of your kiai, move (1,2,3) to x=280
    5. 01:00:310 (4) - Move it to x=112 for a better flow
    6. 01:15:499 (5,1) - More spacing for the kiai again. Move (1) to x=400 and you can try this kind of shape for your slider http://puu.sh/gv2RA/46ad3e818b.jpg
    7. 01:23:347 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - All this part is so crowded ... 01:23:347 (1,2,3,4) - Try to move all those a bit to the right not be totally aligned with the previous 2-et and for 01:24:233 (4,5,1) - not specially a dash who is needed here but some spacing at least. Try to to move (5) to x=408 & (1) to x=376 or even more depending of how you moved the part before.

Map are clean but spread is really really really weird for me ...
Hope it'll help.
salad all fixed
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