hard mapsRookie_FR wrote:
I don't even understand, I lost like almost 1.5k pp, before i had best performance with a map at 5.92 stars (w/HR) but now its gone... Now I don't understand what kind of map gives pp
go berzerk hard map? get outtaaa hereeee lol ezFuture_miku95 wrote:
i'm just newly fc-ing (bout 2 weeks ago) go berzerk with hd... i mean who wasn't happy to get much pp of this map since this map is hard because of jumping (more harder when adding hd)... i was very lazy back then when play that map but who knows dat was my lucky day...
but when pp system changes and knowing dat go berzerk is underrated.. i felt a deep silent and thought "what the heck this can be happen",, all difficult map became more and more low pp.. when people start comfortable with current pp system and this happen... im sure not only me unsatisfied with new system...
FC is generally a bit less important now, even though having a higher combo is still greatly rewarded.Granger wrote:
I feel like the new ratings over value maps with a harsh difficulty spike but are otherwise easy.
My new top rank is one of these maps - the first few seconds are brutal but after that its easymode. Im certain i've FCed overall harder maps. I didnt expect that one to become my top rank, at all.
Also interresting: A large part of my new top ranks are 1x miss plays now, while i generally think it is good that FC doesnt matter as much anymore this gets me curious.
You don't understand how pp works if you think like that. I recommend reading the wiki article about pp:Ryou ark wrote:
Really taking away pp is looking more and more dumb.. (atleast taking away much pp.. like 2k.. thanks)
I can live with that.. but what angers me the most is that i have to play maps like a 3k pp player (being now a 1k one) and get the same or even less amount of pp, which now discourages me completely :/
Na, it's just the fact that the average star count on maps has been reduced quite a bit. But you can still get lot's of pp with the good maps. Exemple: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/371595?m=2 (Overdose) was in the past past over 6 stars, I got 240 for that in the past. Now it's 5.62 or so but the same score gave me 329 pp. Maps 6 stars rated now are way harder then 6 stars in the past. So you don't need to play 6 stars maps now to get pp, you can get pp with a way lower star rating. Hope you understand what I rote.Simple27 wrote:
Tom, with the old algorithm , you could get much pp from easy 5-6 stars.
And someone said that you cant get pp when you are playing same difficulty maps.Then with the new algorithm ,that means that those who played easy 5-6 stars then must play 5-6 star maps(impossible maps) even with the new star ranking?
Givralii wrote:
Na, it's just the fact that the average star count on maps has been reduced quite a bit. But you can still get lot's of pp with the good maps. Exemple: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/371595?m=2 (Overdose) was in the past past over 6 stars, I got 240 for that in the past. Now it's 5.62 or so but the same score gave me 329 pp. Maps 6 stars rated now are way harder then 6 stars in the past. So you don't need to play 6 stars maps now to get pp, you can get pp with a way lower star rating. Hope you understand what I rote.Simple27 wrote:
Tom, with the old algorithm , you could get much pp from easy 5-6 stars.
And someone said that you cant get pp when you are playing same difficulty maps.Then with the new algorithm ,that means that those who played easy 5-6 stars then must play 5-6 star maps(impossible maps) even with the new star ranking?
If you want pp, look at other people's profiles who are around your rank and play their top ranks.Simple27 wrote:
I understand,but i want to get some pp and i want some ctb maps not for pros but chalenging ,can you help me?
I dont play for pp,but its sad that i play some quite hard things and i dont even get 3 pp!Zak wrote:
I'd say maps are getting challenging at around 4.5 stars now, maybe a bit lower even.
Though to be honest, if you're playing them just for pp, you won't improve much, but if you play to improve your skill in general your rank will rise with it eventually.
Simple27 wrote:
I dont play for pp,but its sad that i play some quite hard things and i dont even get 3 pp!
Maybe they're not giving pp because they're not actually hard?Scorpionek wrote:
Tom, why did you abandon old maps?
It is not really that hard when you got the pace :<Granger wrote:
I dont know... id consider tiny hitcircles at low AR with HD pretty hard. Of course, only a part of the old maps is like that.
CTB is worth too much to be honest - in specific ways. Lots of the maps seem to be weighted nicely, specifically a lot of Rains that are below 200 and such, but then maps like this appear. This map is horrible over-weighted in my opinion and it really shows by the leaderboards. In general maps seem to be nicely weighted but the higher you go it seems the more ridiculous the pp amount gets.Storm- wrote:
ctb is fine,
HD gives a fine ammount anywhere between 20-50
stars are off cuz CTB is hard to calculate overall difficulty
everyone doesn't have to much pp that's the issue is there is not enough pp maps or so to speak there is very few 500 pp maps and once the top 10 or 5 do those maps you will have what i call a pp cap, which means you must either A: hardrock or B: DT.
older maps are abandoned because this is the new generation of ctb not switched on lotus style, switched on lotus and system of a down is not really all that tough compared to high apm maps like daze also it's ironic that you say old maps are abandoned by new pp @Scorpionek when your top rank is a tag4 map from 2010
the only thing i can agree with this thread thus far is that DT should be weighed a little more prob 10-15% that is all
if you people are wondering why 0108 maps are worth a lot, because of the big droplet change tag4 style maps and droplet maps are weighed a lot heavily more, that's why most 0108 maps are weighed pretty high
the only issue i can see with this pp change is FL and DT FL is very confusing to calculate and DT should be weighed a lot heavily more.
also idk why you guys are complaining about this, create feedback not opinions at least maps like aspire and shuffle heaven and freedom dive hdhr and velper's DT are being calculated instead of being worth 100 or less.
There shouldn't be ANY 500pp map other than maybe some exgon score, 500pp plays should be hard to get. There's 4 500+ pp plays in standard. In ctb: I could count more than 15 just looking at a few profiles. The game with like 3k active players has 15 500pp plays and the game with like 80k active players has 4 500pp plays. People have way too much pp.Storm- wrote:
everyone doesn't have to much pp that's the issue is there is not enough pp maps or so to speak there is very few 500 pp maps and once the top 10 or 5 do those maps you will have what i call a pp cap, which means you must either A: hardrock or B: DT.
Storm- wrote:
stars are off cuz CTB is hard to calculate overall difficulty
Seems a lot easier than in standard from my pov. The pp system is better i'll agree, but it's far from perfect. I don't see anyone complaining, people are giving whatever feedback they can.Storm- wrote:
also idk why you guys are complaining about this, create feedback not opinions at least maps like aspire and shuffle heaven and freedom dive hdhr and velper's DT are being calculated instead of being worth 100 or less.
DT right now is completly broken. If i sort maps by stars and play them one by one, the difficulty is very inconsistent. You could barely pass one map and then FC the next one in 2 tries. DT needs a complete rework.Storm- wrote:
the only thing i can agree with this thread thus far is that DT should be weighed a little more prob 10-15% that is all
