[Shana Lesus] wrote:

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mod ready, sorry for delay
- Hello へ(´∀｀へ)

[4K NM]

00:37:456 (37456|1) - move to 3
- Done
00:40:231 (40231|2) - move to 2
- Done
00:50:289 (50289|0) - move to 2
- They've exactly same sounds
01:03:121 (63121|3,63294|3) - move to 3
- X
01:08:843 (68843|0,69017|0) - move to 2
- X
02:17:341 (137341|1,137514|1) - move to 3
- Done

[4K HD]

00:02:601 (2601|2) - move to 1
- Pitch arranged
00:10:924 - add note to 3
- Intended to lower density for easy diff

[4K MX]

00:10:924 (10924|0) - move to 3
- Changed in another way
00:19:421 (19421|2) - move to 2
- X

[5K NM]

00:32:601 (32601|2) - move to 4
- Same sound as previous note
00:40:404 (40404|2) - move to 4
- ^
00:50:289 (50289|0) - move to 2
- ^
01:50:635 (110635|1) - move to 3
- Same sound as next note in the same column
02:09:017 - add note
- Done
02:10:404 - add note
- No double notes like next similar pattern

[5K HD]

00:04:682 (4682|1) - move to 1
- Doesn't sound like it should jump that far
00:06:936 (6936|1) - move to 3
- Done
00:57:398 (57398|2,58092|3) - move to 5
- Stair intended
00:58:265 (58265|4) - move to 4
- X

[5K MX]

00:06:936 - add note to 5
00:38:843 - add note to 3
00:53:063 - add note
00:53:757 - ^
00:55:144 - ^
00:55:838 - ^
00:56:531 - ^
00:59:306 - ^
01:00:000 - ^
01:00:693 - ^
01:01:387 - ^
01:02:080 - ^
01:04:855 - ^
01:05:549 - ^
01:06:242 - ^
01:06:936 - ^
01:07:630 - ^
01:08:323 - ^
01:09:017 - ^
01:09:710 - ^
01:10:404 - ^
01:11:098 - ^
01:11:791 - ^
01:12:485 - ^
01:13:179 - ^
02:19:075 - ^
02:19:768 - ^
02:20:462 - ^
02:21:156 - ^
02:21:849 - ^
02:22:543 - ^
02:24:624 - ^
02:25:317 - ^
02:26:011 - ^
02:26:705 - ^
- Already too many notes at said positions for this diff

[6K NM]

00:08:843 (8843|3) - move to 3
- X
00:09:190 (9190|2) - move to 2
- Done
00:58:265 - add note
- Intended to lower density for easy diff
01:03:815 - ^
- Done
01:09:364 - ^
- Done

[6K HD]

00:38:497 (38497|2) - move to 2
- Done
00:57:919 (57919|3) - move to 5
- Done

[6K SC]

00:26:878 - add note to 1
- X
01:27:138 (87138|5) - move to 5
- Same sound as previous note
01:33:468 (93468|4) - move to 6
- ^

[7K NM]

00:10:231 (10231|6) - move to 6
- Pitch arranged
00:43:005 - add note
- X
00:45:780 - ^
- X
00:48:554 - ^
- X
00:54:104 - ^
- X
01:05:202 - ^
- X
01:27:138 (87138|5) - move to 7
- Same pitch as previous note

[7K HD]

00:52:369 (52369|6) - delete
- Removed 2
01:27:138 (87138|5) - move to 7
- Same pitch as previous note
02:04:855 - add note to 5
- X

[7K MX]

00:09:710 - add note to 1
- Out of piano sounds
00:53:757 - add note
00:55:144 - ^
00:55:838 - ^
00:56:531 - ^
00:59:306 - ^
01:00:000 - ^
01:00:693 - ^
01:01:387 - ^
01:02:080 - ^
01:04:855 - ^
01:05:549 - ^
01:06:242 - ^
01:06:936 - ^
01:07:630 - ^
01:08:323 - ^
01:09:017 - ^
01:09:710 - ^
01:10:404 - ^
01:11:098 - ^
01:11:791 - ^
01:12:485 - ^
01:13:179 - ^
- Already too many notes at said positions for this diff

[7K SC]

00:09:190 - add note
- Out of piano sounds
00:11:098 - ^
- Out of piano sounds, plus 4 is already enough
00:36:069 - add note to 3
- Out of sounds to use

other diff so nice
Good luck !
p.s I am very glad to have you back DJPop, your maps are divine
- Thanks

1. μ's - Love livers' sprits and souls
2. Add these to tags if you like: muse, sunrise, *insert μ's members' full names here*
3. Sound like this: 01:32:080 (92080|0) - For the guitar/banjo idk, i think you should change it if you find a better, more suitable one. The current one is nearly, but not exactly the same as the original.

1. 00:12:485 - Maybe you should add a note/LN here
2. 00:18:728 (18728|0) - LN, maybe?
3. 00:22:196 (22196|4) - ^
4. 00:35:549 (35549|4) - Remove this then add one at 00:35:722
5. 01:03:641 - Add a LN if you like
6. 01:07:976 (67976|5,68323|4,68670|3,69017|2) - I do think LNs suit better for strings
7. 01:14:393 (74393|0,74566|1,74739|3) - ^
8. 01:23:236 (83236|4,83236|1) - How about replacing with LNs that end at 01:24:624 ?

1. 00:17:861 - Add a note here?
2. 00:19:942 - ^
3. 00:22:716 - ^
4. 00:32:947 (32947|2) - To coll 2?
5. 00:36:069 - Triple
6. 00:41:618 - Add a note
7. 01:22:890 - ^
8. 01:26:011 - Add one or two notes
9. 01:52:369 - Add?
10. 02:03:468 (123468|5,123815|4,124161|3,124508|2) - LNs
11. 02:09:884 (129884|0,130057|1,130231|5) - ^
12. 02:30:173 (150173|2) - I think you should expand this to the same end time as the LN on coll 4

1. 00:06:936 - Idk if it's possible, but can you add one more here?
2. 00:08:323 - 00:09:710 - Same, if you feel like adding
3. 00:19:421 - I'd prefer 2 normal 2 long notes for balance, but please suit it your style :3
4. 00:22:196 - ^
5. 00:36:069 - Don't know if overchord, because LNs' ends don't count as a note to me, but if possible, add a note (or 2, which i don't really recommend)
6. 00:41:618 - Add a note
7. 01:35:202 (95202|3) - Ends at 01:35:462 (on the blue line) because the previous LNs end at blue lines (Or not because they're pretty independent from each other)
8. 01:38:670 - ^
9. 01:46:864 (106864|4) - To normal note?
10. 01:47:861 - You should have a double LN, so it's better to apply the above mod, then add another LN in coll 5
11. Awesome use of the bell rings, it made goosebumps on me xD
12. 02:32:947 - Sudden tamborine here. Add a note?

1. 00:13:872 ~ 00:23:583 - suggest you to make like this http://puu.sh/dxXgb/4c3cfce127.jpg
2. 01:13:872 - add note at 4, according to 01:13:179 (73179|3) -
3. 01:14:566 - add note at 4, according to 01:13:179 (73179|3) -
   perfect NM~

• 
  the gap between 5K NM is so close, but too far between 5K MX. so i suggest to add more piano notes.

1. 00:01:734 - add note at 3, missing piano sound
2. 00:04:161 (4161|3) - move to 1
3. 00:09:710 (9710|1) - move to 5
4. 00:10:231 (10231|0) - move to 2
   it's good already~

1. 00:15:260 ~ 00:15:780 - missing piano sound, add a single note
2. 00:17:167 ~ 00:18:034 - missing piano sound, add a single note
3. 00:19:421 ~ 00:19:942 - missing piano sound, add a single note
4. 00:22:196 ~ 00:23:583 - missing piano sound, add a single note
5. 00:27:398 - add note at 1, according to 00:28:439 (28439|0) -
6. 00:30:867 - add note at 3, 00:31:213 - add note at 2. missing piano sound at there
7. 01:26:011 - add note at 5
8. 01:26:358 - add note at 3
9. 01:45:086 (105086|4) - http://puu.sh/dwMIQ/b7b1e3d8fa.jpg
10. 01:55:274 (115274|1) - move to 01:55:317 - at 4?

1. 00:01:734 (1734|3) - move to 5, according with this pattern 00:10:231 - and for more comfortable
2. 00:05:549 (5549|2) - move to 1, according with this pattern 00:09:884 - and for more comfortable
3. 00:10:231 (10231|4) - move to 1, different pitch with 00:10:404 - and following the pattern before
4. 00:15:260 ~ 00:15:780 - missing piano sound, according to 00:18:208 ~ 00:19:248 - sorry i can't give a suggestion cause of confused hitsound note lol
5. 00:21:156 - add note at 5, for emphasis?
6. 00:50:115 - add note at 2, according to 00:50:809 (50809|1) -
7. 00:50:462 - add note at 4, according to 00:51:156 (51156|3) -
8. 01:20:809 - missing note, add at 1
9. 01:21:502 - add note at 1
10. 01:27:615 (87615|3) - unsnapped notes? move to 01:27:572 -
11. 01:55:274 (115274|1) - unsnapped notes? move to 01:55:317 - at 3
12. 02:16:300 - missing note, add note at 1
13. 02:23:497 (143497|4) - move to 02:23:410 - according to 02:24:104 (144104|4) -

14:52 Z3nx: can we just discuss how we can improve it
14:53 Z3nx: i honestly think that the stairs could be replaced with just a single LN or something instead of mapping the whole thing
14:55 Yoshiap: (2nd part is admittedly sometimes hard, but still)
14:55 Z3nx: can we discuss on how we can improve the stairs
14:55 ExUsagi: finally
14:55 ExUsagi: use LN?
14:55 Z3nx: or are we just going to let this slip into rank and not give a shit about ranked maps
14:55 jamesalegre15: hmmm
14:55 Z3nx: that's what i was thinking, so any other suggestions?
14:55 richardfeder: Usagi thank you :3
14:55 Yoshiap: this is hitsounded though
14:56 Yoshiap: so i'm not sure how LN's would work with it
14:56 jamesalegre15: on what diff
14:56 Yoshiap: basically most diffs
14:56 Z3nx: the hitsounds can be merged into 1 in the piano stream
14:56 richardfeder: well I don't like that brust
14:56 richardfeder: but I wont call it ****
14:56 Z3nx: honestly feels like a big spike to me
14:56 Z3nx: it's way harder to excecute perfectly that the previous patterns
14:57 Brainpeeler: you guys talking about this stream in snow halation? w
14:57 sdglalon: ok i just downloaded the song
14:57 sdglalon: lets see
14:57 sdglalon: XD
14:57 Z3nx: yes
14:57 Yoshiap: yup dat stream
14:57 Z3nx: 3 streams in question currently
14:57 *sdglalon is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/545015 u's - Snow halation (TV Size) [4K SC]] <osu!mania> +Hidden |4K|
14:58 Z3nx: i'm thinking about something like this to make it better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2360540
14:58 Z3nx: depends on the keycount the LNs may vary in length and count
14:59 jamesalegre15: 8k SC?
14:59 Z3nx: yes
14:59 Brainpeeler: 3 streams in 8k 4 streams in 7k
14:59 Z3nx: i'll just savelog this and post in on the thread later
14:59 Z3nx: removing some unneeded comments and attacks so that no shitstorms happen
15:00 Z3nx: what do you think brain? do you think that the stream should be nerfed?
15:02 ExUsagi: ==a let's see
15:02 Brainpeeler: it does feel a bit fast compared to what it sounds like
15:02 [-Seiryuu-]: oh
15:02 Yoshiap: its 16 notes i think
15:02 RemiFlan: i wanna try the 4k SC again
15:02 Yoshiap: but i don't want to double check
15:02 RemiFlan: but I wanna keep the DT mod on there lol
15:03 Brainpeeler: but its keysounded so every sound is "justified" hue
15:03 Brainpeeler: note*
15:03 jamesalegre15: dang 1/16 stream
15:03 richardfeder: well
15:03 RemiFlan: oh shit it's keysounded
15:03 Yoshiap: i mean, technically its justified, but there's probably another way to do it -_-
15:03 RemiFlan: let me go make a 1/32 keysounded map
15:04 Z3nx: lol can't throw overmap but ^
15:04 ExUsagi: o.o
15:04 richardfeder: keysounded only mean " there are sounds"
15:04 Yoshiap: i wish hold note endings made a sound suddenly
15:04 richardfeder: doesn't necessarily means those sounds should be charted.
15:05 *sdglalon is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/545014 u's - Snow halation (TV Size) [4K NM]] <osu!mania> +Hidden |4K|
15:05 sdglalon: XD
15:05 Z3nx: the stairs just feel overkill compared to the rest
15:05 Yoshiap: like
15:05 Yoshiap: if he wants to keep the idea
15:05 ExUsagi: o_o do you have another snow halation map from another mapper?
15:05 sdglalon: i feel like somehow this is aimed for standard players
15:05 Yoshiap: just halving the number of notes already does a lot
15:06 ExUsagi: maybe you can check the piano stairs ther
15:06 RemiFlan: yeah there's this
15:06 *RemiFlan is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/442124 u's - Snow halation (TV Size)]
15:06 RemiFlan: not keysounded
15:06 RemiFlan: still trying to figure out of what he's mapping to is there
15:06 ExUsagi: you can check the piano sound, whether its fit with current pattern or not
15:06 Z3nx: it is also possible that you can put all the stairs into samples there if he wants to keep the hitsounds/keysounds
15:06 Z3nx: it's not about if it fits, it's about how bad it plays
15:07 Z3nx: even though this is pretty much the easiest pattern i can think off
15:07 Z3nx: of*
15:07 radagusto: `wait that whole stream is hitsounded?
15:07 Z3nx: yes
15:07 RemiFlan: yep
15:07 ExUsagi: technically right, but physically not right? o_o?
15:07 *richardfeder is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/446520 u's - Snow halation [Another]]
15:07 RemiFlan: i removed the entire section in editor and it's blanked
15:08 Z3nx: yes physically "not right"
15:08 radagusto: wait not each note is hitsounded in the stream or yes?
15:08 Z3nx: each note is hitsounded
15:08 ExPew: all note is keysounded
15:08 radagusto: damn the sound that must make if you mess it up O_O
15:09 Z3nx: lol
15:09 *ExUsagi is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/417467 Nakamura Meiko - Scarlet Faith [PC's Another]] <osu!mania> |7K|
15:09 Brainpeeler: only part that feels awkward there is having to do that hold in 2 right after the streams
15:09 _S u w a k o_: keysound needs quality
15:09 _S u w a k o_: please
15:09 Yoshiap: its still a pretty huge difficulty spike though
15:10 radagusto: yeah i think i could probably do decently up to that point
15:10 ExUsagi: o_o is that weird, yesterday, my mania speed was 22, and right now, i need to put it on 25?
15:10 RemiFlan: [http://puu.sh/dAMaL/1ee5cfd20a.png can you find the stream sections]
15:10 Z3nx: lol
15:10 RemiFlan: also the first section is like
15:11 RemiFlan: the first section on 4k SC is 1/8
15:11 RemiFlan: the main complaint section is 1/6
15:11 RemiFlan: and the third section is 1/8
15:11 Z3nx: 8k sc is like 1/16
15:11 radagusto: im pretty sure those streams are giving the map all of its pp and star rating
15:12 Yoshiap: such is the life of pp
15:12 RemiFlan: ah there's extra notes on the 8k sc I think
15:12 ExUsagi: use open as reference
15:13 Z3nx: it's not on the wrong snap lol cause there isn't any
15:13 Z3nx: the pattern is not wrong
15:13 Z3nx: it's just horrible to play
15:13 Brainpeeler: dat huge difficulty spike in the 4k sc
15:13 jamesalegre15: 1/16 in 7K SC
15:14 Z3nx: do you guys think it should be nerfed in terms of notes or should just totally replaced with LNs?
15:14 Z3nx: i have no better pattern for this if he wants to keep the snap lol
15:14 RemiFlan: nerf imo
15:14 richardfeder: both are OK actually
15:14 Z3nx: 1/2 the notes ?
15:14 RemiFlan: http://puu.sh/dAMlH/b60d523574.png i feel like those two shouldn't be there
15:14 richardfeder: I would jsut use 1/6 notes
15:15 Z3nx: depends on the diff actually richard
15:15 ExUsagi: OMG pc thanks for this map
15:15 *ExUsagi is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/417467 Nakamura Meiko - Scarlet Faith]
15:15 RemiFlan: http://puu.sh/dAMny/071c91f499.png neat
15:15 ExUsagi: i reach top #700 \o/
15:15 Z3nx: 8k 1/6 would feel much easier than 4k 1/6
15:15 richardfeder: for easier diff LN for sure
15:15 Z3nx: ah okays 
15:15 Z3nx: i have no idea what's with the 1/6 hats lol
15:15 Remyria: RemiFlan: I say goodluck to joypad user LOL
15:16 RemiFlan: lol
15:16 Z3nx: what do guys think about the 1/6 hats though?
15:16 Z3nx: pretty much the same in all diff.s actually
15:16 Remyria: what's the meaning of hat in this sentence?
15:16 Z3nx: 01:23:236 - in snow halation SCs
15:17 Z3nx: well idk about the name being correct lol
15:17 Z3nx: sorry forgot to mention the timing point heh
15:17 richardfeder: what the
15:17 richardfeder: they are hithats? orz
15:18 jamesalegre15: @.@
15:18 Z3nx: i don't think they should even be mapped lol
15:19 Z3nx: well, imo should be replaced with a LN entirely
15:19 Remyria: Z3nx: stairs?
15:19 Z3nx:  yeap
15:19 RemiFlan: one little nitpicky thing I think about the 4k sc
15:19 Remyria: :3
15:19 RemiFlan: [http://puu.sh/dAMyP/d92f918871.png would be to move this]
15:19 RemiFlan: that's what makes it so awkward to play
15:19 RemiFlan: for 4k sc
15:20 Z3nx: what do you guys think about this though? 01:23:236 - should it be scrapped entirely or restructed with LNs/notes?
15:20 jamesalegre15: dang no one FC yet in 8K SC
15:21 RemiFlan: im okay with that once i played it off of DT
15:21 Midare: so many qualified beatmap today
15:22 RemiFlan: yeah I'm SSing that section Z3nx lol
15:22 Z3nx: o sweet
15:22 Z3nx: so i don't think there' will be much of a problem in higher keys?
15:22 Z3nx: unless someone wants to point out something else concerning them in this map, i think this is it?