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rust45
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, July 27, 2012 at 11:07:38 PM

Artist: Skillet
Title: Eating Me Away
Tags: rock grunge christian alien youth
BPM: 125.84
Filesize: 5302kb
Play Time: 03:24
Difficulties Available:
  1. Chewing (4.52 stars, 385 notes)
  2. Eating (4.85 stars, 484 notes)
  3. Gnawing (3.28 stars, 249 notes)
  4. Gumming (1.88 stars, 175 notes)
Download: Skillet - Eating Me Away
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My favorite song off of Alien Youth. This has got to be the best set of maps I've ever produced. I really enjoy these maps myself and think they surpass all my other work. SB is now complete and awesome.

Thank Shiirn the almighty god of editing mp3s, for adding a fade out, and re-encoding the mp3 without any change to the offset.

Thanks to Starrod for helping me out with this SB by providing awesome images (including editing the bg) and great SB advice.

If you downloaded the map before August 22 please redownload for the slightly changed SB.

New Normal diff, check it out if you haven't played it yet.

[Gumming] = Easy
[Gnawing] = Normal
[Chewing] = Hard
[Eating] = Insane

Fun Fact: This map has been revived 3 times! Let's hope that's it. FFFFFFFFF 4 times now. 5 times now... I give up.
Tatsuo
Here comes my mod~

BPM/Offset are fine to me.

Here comes the real modding, not much to mod, since I didn't find any major problems with the beatmap.

~Gumming~
01:23:879 - (1,2) Move both these notes right one grid, at level 3
01:30:553 - (4) Move the end of the slider up one grid at level 3 (Since I like parallel sliders lol)
01:31:268 - (5) Move up one grid level 3
01:47:951 - (3) Move down two grids, right one grid, at level 3.
That's it for Gumming... Not much.

~Gnawing~
Didn't find anything wrong with this. Looks great.

Not much to mod, can't wait to see the rest of Gnawing down, and also the completion of an insane difficulty. I'll come back and star this when you finish Gnawing.
Ph0X
You're not done mapping, but so far you havn't really mapped the end, so consider cutting if you don't
Also, if you do, might want to re-encode in v2 since right now its 6mb for 3min, which is slightly too high.

Timing:
* Hmm, personally, I find 125.84 with 7852 offset more accurate.

[Gumming]
* 00:52:181 (4,5) - Feels awkward to me, might wanna delete the 5 and loop the first slider 3 more times.
* 00:55:518 (1) - Feels better to me when it finishes on the red line (00:57:196)
01:40:324 (2,4) - These guys are completely off, I know you kept it on the white lines but it just doesn't work

Didn't see anything wrong with Gnawing.


* Personal suggestions
DeathxShinigami
filler post for more modding, did some irc modding earlier.
James2250
ermmmm is desktop config settings meant to be in folder? (just wondering)
im not a fan of the background but ok
some kiai time might work well with this song

Gumming:
00:51:240 (3,4) - align?
00:53:624 (1) - make symmetrical?

Gnawing:
00:39:082 (2,4) - stack these slightly better
00:53:624 (1) - make symmetrical?
01:23:662 (8) - add note? (and if so fix spacing after it)
02:00:137 (7) - add note?
02:09:911 (1) - make symmetrical?
02:11:818 (1,2,3,4) - keep spacing equal?
02:15:633 (5) - new combo
02:19:209 (7) - ^
02:23:262 (7) - ^
move 02:32:32 timing section 1/4 earlier
02:37:327 (4) - kinda seems like a trick slider...some people might not like this
move 2:42:33 timing section 1/4 earlier
02:52:585 (3,5) - stack better
03:22:384 (1) - make symmetrical

Eating:
go through and make sure all timing sections are 1/4 before the note
00:53:624 (1) - endpoint of this and 3 could be stacked slightly better
01:23:662 (8) - add note? (fix spacing if you do)
01:41:304 (5) - new combo
01:45:118 (9) - ^
02:13:726 (1,2,3,4) - snap the endpoints of these to red ticks?
02:15:633 (5) - new combo
02:19:209 (7) - ^
02:22:308 (5) - extend by 1/4
02:23:262 (7) - new combo
02:25:169 (1,2,3) - extend all these by 1/4

*star*
Mismagius
Gray color is a pain on TAG :cry:

Gumming
00:40:274 (4) - add new combo?
00:44:565 (3) - align with (2)
01:12:934 (1,2,3,4) - are you sure newbs can do this?
01:29:145 (1) - stacking
01:29:384 (2,3) - confusing, looks like (2) is a slider and (3) circle

Gnawing
00:45:280 (8) - new combo
00:53:624 (1) - spacing
02:09:911 (1) - ^
03:14:756 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - huh, what?

Eating
Nothing here

Great map. Star :)
Dusty
[Gumming]
01:27:953 (3,1) - I hate this stack

[Gnawing]
I like it better with OD+1
00:40:274 (4) - more symmetrical? It looks better that way if the two ends of the slider line up more, right now it's a little sloppy.
00:51:717 (1,2,3,4,5) - Uh, ok. It's weird, though. Nevermind, you repeat it and it's better the second time.
00:53:147 (5,1) - spacing error? Nevermind, I like this.
01:24:139 (2,3,4) - Switch 2 and 3, because 2 gets overlapped out, and then move 4 down? Unless you increased the OD then it's actually fine as it is

There's parts that are exactly the same and might be better with a flip?

[Eating]
Maybe [Gnashing]? or something with a G

00:42:419 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - strange spacing
Grid level 2 makes weird spacing all over the place, which makes stuff weird looking. But I can tell where everything's supposed to go anyways.
YGOkid8
General:

wtf. Why is there a desktop.cfg in the Song Folder??? Delete it and Full Submit.

Gumming:

Normal Mod~
01:30:576 (4,5) - Make it like this?

Nazi Mod~
01:26:046 (2,4) - Move (4) up 1 Grid to align with (2)

Gnawing

Normal Mod~
01:29:384 (4,5) - Spacing
Adding on to that, AIMod detects lots of spacing "errors". I've found that some are errors, some aren't, you just take a look.

Eating:

Combo Mod~
01:41:304 (5) - New Combo.
02:15:633 (5) - ^
02:19:447 (11) - ^
02:23:262 (8) - ^

Normal Mod~
02:33:513 (4) - Flip vertically
Tatsuo
All the other modders took care of pretty much everything that I could see. Although I do agree with Dusty on how grid level 2 on [Eating] does produce some odd spacing, but also agree that I do know where everything goes.
Here you go, a star for you.
Shohei Ohtani
Gummy~:
00:53:624 (1) - Eww slider. Probably make it like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7367
01:10:550 (4) - Lopsided slider. I'm not going to say anything, because I'm not experienced on fine tuning, but it's obviously lopsided ;~;
01:56:561 (3) - Move end of slider down 1 level 3 grid

Gnawy!:
00:45:518 (9) - Add clap <3~
01:27:476 (1) - This slider is a tiny bit off. You'll need to turn off grid snap to fine-tune this.
02:53:777 (5) - Move (starting from the bottom (repeat) of the slider) the 2nd slider adjusty thing 3 grids left.
03:09:034 (9) - ^

Nomming~:
02:06:573 (2) - Move this slider's end northwest 1 grid
02:15:633 (5,6,7,8) - I don't like how this pattern is continuing without a new combo or anything when the focus has changed from the vocals to the guitar


I laid off on the hitsound modding upon request ;~;.
Garven
[General]
The intro storyboard almost felt kind of wasted since you don't show anything for the first 8 seconds. I just saw the pie chart moving verrry slowly with a black screen and I just skipped past. Didn't even realized there was a storyboard to enjoy during that part until I came back to edit. Also, don't forget the seizure warnings.
I don't know if you're one of the people opposed to kiai usage, but the final chorus feels like it would be an appropriate place for a kiai, and it would go well with the storyboarding.

[Gumming]
00:43:611 (2) - This slider looks kind of weird with it almost ending lined up over the 1, but not quite.
01:16:749 (3) - This just doesn't look good at all. Maybe do a smooth curve downwards so you don't partially cover the next combo?
01:22:947 (2,1,2,3) - This feels a little hard for an easy diff since it would be hard to tell when the repeating slider is going to end.
Boo on half-done difficulty.

[Gnawing]
Holy difficulty jump.
In general, the sliders don't look very good (inconsistent curves and such).
00:53:624 (1) - Anti-jump intentional?
01:18:894 (2,3,4) - Since you're going at a 45 degree angle, turn off grid snap when you're lining these up. The editor auto-snaps 45 and 90 degree angles.
01:40:350 (2, 4) - Maybe lower the volume on these two to go with the vocals.
01:47:979 (1) - The volume changes you do here are very subtle. Maybe do a more drastic volume change so it'll be noticed better?
With the last chorus, at least do a horizontal or vertical flip to the copy/pasted stuff.

[Eating]
00:39:558 (6,7) - Lower these two and put them in the center of the square.
00:43:373 (5,6) - This spacing just looked weird since it's obvious you ran out of mapping room. It played fine, but just looks off.
01:30:218 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - This rhythm felt really weird due to the pseudo triplets with the vocals and the rather quiet hit sounds to reduce feedback to the player.
01:40:350 (2, 4) - Maybe lower the volume on these two to go with the vocals.
02:18:494 (6,7,8) - Even up the spacing between these. Grid level 2, bleh.
02:37:089 (3,4,5) - ^
02:38:996 (3,4,5) - ^
02:59:737 (2,3,4) - ^
03:15:948 (6,7) - Lower these two and put them in the center of the square.
03:16:901 (2,3,4) - More grid 2 spacing unevenness.
Even with the weird level 2 grid spacing, it still read fine... it just made the map look very unpolished.
Luvdic
SB:

Starting from 00:30:738 to 00:38:366, it really feels that something is missing at the large white ticks. Consider using the using the "top" "bottom" etc etc too in these ticks.

(i know that these are not the difficulty names... but was too lazy to memorize them >_>)

Normal:

00:50:763 (2) - Consider stacking this under (1)
01:11:742 (1,2) - Consider deleting them
02:32:797 (1) - It really felt that it was missing a repeat. Consider adding enough repeats so it would end at 02:32:797 (1) -
03:04:266 (2) - Again... consider stacking this under (1)

Hard:

00:47:902 (1) - I see this slider, and i only think "lol fail symmetry". Make it more asymmetrical, or make it more symmetrical... Lol. This applies to the other copiers
00:53:624 (1) - Same as above, but this one is not that horrible like the one above. You may just do nothing to this one. This applies to the other copiers
02:37:327 (4) - I dont like this kind of sliders
03:22:384 (1) - Another fail symmetry x:
02:19:209 (1,2,3) - These 3 spacing =/= 02:23:738 (3,4,5) those three spacing... :x etc etc etc
Im feeling like im being a nazi...

Insane:

In this difficulty i didnt saw any sliders that made me thing "lol fail symmetry".
01:55:369 (3) - This circle is kind of too hidden... At least for me, consider changing its position?

Also delete desktop.ini
You may have to delete your own map, and download it from here to be able to see that file
Adamozo
Naiz, Star ;)
Beuchi
Revived!!
TheVileOne
Gumming

00:44:565 (3,4,5,1) - Move up 1 unit. (Fixes the square shape)

01:13:411 (3) - Move left 1 unit. (Straightens the combo)

02:58:068 (3,4,5,1) - Move down 1 unit. (Fixes the square shape)



Gnawing

These are technically all opinions.

00:45:995 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is awkward. The spacing is too high to constitute this kind of placement of the beats. It's to mechanical to feel the beat.

01:20:801 (3,4,5,6) - Very awkward.

01:22:708 (3,4,5,6) - ^

01:58:707 (1,2,3,4,5) - Awkward. (Too mechanical)

02:59:498 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Awkward.( Too mechanical)

03:11:180 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^



Eating

Again I don't like the flow of this beatmap.

00:45:995 (1,2,3,4,5) - Too mechanical!!!

01:20:801 (3,4,5,6) - Awkward.

01:22:709 (3,4,5,6) - ^

01:27:476 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - I suggest you break this combo up into smaller ones, because you change the snap so much in it.

01:48:932 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Awkward. Too mechanical.

01:50:839 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Break this combo up to cover the multiple snaps.

02:04:189 (1,2,3,4) - Don't space things like this please.



I guess I'll give you a late star.
Darcsol
[Gumming]
Looks fine.

[Gnawing]
00:46:361 (4) Move the Beat 1 unit to the right (fix diamond shape)
00:53:624 (1) Space it same as (1-5)?

[Eating]
00:43:373 (5-6) Space it same as (1-4)?


This map feels awkward, especially with the Grid Level at 2.
sveta-insane
STAR!1
Beuchi
Revived!!
Jinxy
[SB]
01:48:694 - lolPink. No problems, just pointing it out :P

[Gum]
00:47:902 (3) - Er, yeah. This slider could be a lot better. If you don't need this to blanket (1), then try this (If it overlaps the next beats, then flip it horizontally, I guess:
03:01:405 (3) - ^
Other than that, the rest is good.

[Gnaw]
Nothing too bad.

[Chew]
Nothing Either

[Eat]
Nothing
NoHitter
Gumming
00:40:274 (4) - New combo
01:22:947 (2) - I would suggest you not stack these. They're spaced too far away from the timeline.
01:25:808 (1,2,3,4) - Perhaps H-Flip this combo. The previous combo also pointed that way.
01:29:860 (3,4,5) - All are spaced the same in the timeline but (3) and (4) have larger spacing. It's readable though.
02:53:776 (4) - New combo

Gnawing
01:22:947 (7) - Same comment as on [Gumming]. Though it is a Normal this time.
01:29:145 (4) - ^
02:02:759 (3,4) - Spacing -- It's readable though
02:25:884 (2,3) - Spacing. IMO it would look better like this
03:15:232 (3,4) - Spacing -- Readable as is.

Chewing
00:53:624 (1) - I would suggest moving it away further. Unless it's an intentional anti-jump?
00:55:531 (1,1,1) - I don't recommend putting three spinners right after each other. Maybe you could remove the last one.
01:23:662 (x) - Add note here
02:02:283 (1,2,3,4,5) - People usually associate this with a box pattern. I suggest switching (4) and (5)'s position.

Eating
00:55:531 (1,1,1) - Same comment as in [Chewing]. Though it is an Insane...
01:30:218 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Why did you shift from the lyrics to the drums in the same combo. Confusing IMO.
02:03:236 (5,6) - Spacing. There's nothing to indicate an anti-jump here at all. (Like placing it in the center of two spaced notes.)

Overall
Sliders were not so well made...
I didn't quite like how [Eating] was mapped. Small notes + large spacing. It's just my opinion though.
Topic Starter
rust45

NoHItter wrote:

Gumming
00:40:274 (4) - New comboThis would make my combo's weird and I really like keeping them the same, not to mention the a later combo lasts just as long in terms of time, I don't see why this combo can't have four notes
01:22:947 (2) - I would suggest you not stack these. They're spaced too far away from the timeline. Fixed
01:25:808 (1,2,3,4) - Perhaps H-Flip this combo. The previous combo also pointed that way.Agreed
01:29:860 (3,4,5) - All are spaced the same in the timeline but (3) and (4) have larger spacing. It's readable thoughIntended to avoid ugly slider overlap..
02:53:776 (4) - New comboLook above

Gnawing
01:22:947 (7) - Same comment as on [Gumming]. Though it is a Normal this time.Look above
01:29:145 (4) - ^^
02:02:759 (3,4) - Spacing -- It's readable thoughYou said it yourself, it's readable
02:25:884 (2,3) - Spacing. IMO it would look better like thisFixed it to that, what I had was ugly anyway
03:15:232 (3,4) - Spacing -- Readable as is.Said it yourself

Chewing
00:53:624 (1) - I would suggest moving it away further. Unless it's an intentional anti-jump?Yes it is
00:55:531 (1,1,1) - I don't recommend putting three spinners right after each other. Maybe you could remove the last one.Merged the second two
01:23:662 (x) - Add note hereCouldn't really find a good place for it.
02:02:283 (1,2,3,4,5) - People usually associate this with a box pattern. I suggest switching (4) and (5)'s position.I think the combo line things make it readable enough IMO

Eating
00:55:531 (1,1,1) - Same comment as in [Chewing]. Though it is an Insane...It is indeed an insane, and I think it fits rather well
01:30:218 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Why did you shift from the lyrics to the drums in the same combo. Confusing IMO.Fixed added a new combo, but had to add another so my OCD wouldn't bother me
02:03:236 (5,6) - Spacing. There's nothing to indicate an anti-jump here at all. (Like placing it in the center of two spaced notes.I don't know how I missed that, fixed
Thank you
Zelos
Gummin diff:

00:45:042 (4,5,1) - im sure this was intentional but no this bothers me.(spacing)

01:25:808 (1,2,3) - spacing error

Gnawin:

01:09:358 (2,3,4,5) - 4 and 5 have slightly more space between then compared to 2 and 3

01:12:934 (1,2,3) - un-even

02:27:553 (4,5,6,7) - different spacing

I saw nothing wrong with Chewing.

I have not yet looked at Biting though. Will do that tommorow when i have a bit more time.

Star.
Shiirn
Oh god, this SB.

General:
I feel kind of bad about this map only having two combo colors. Maybe you could toss in another green, still dark but a different tinge than the first?

Gumming:
This feels like it's trying to be an easy, but some of the hitcircle patterns feel like they're a normal difficulty.

Gnawing:
Nothing to see here.

Chewing:
You can move AR a notch to the right, I'd say.
01:54:892 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I'd move these all down a bit so that the curve to 7 isn't as sharp, but this is just nitpicking.
01:56:561 (8) - Move the center-middle node down 4 notches to make the slider symmetrical. If that was your intention.
02:00:375 (7) - Oh hey, it's a catmull slider. I'd suggest making this a linear with a similar pattern, while the rest of the map uses curves, a sudden switch to linear here wouldn't be a mood-breaker since it's a crucial part of the song.
02:09:911 (1) - Move final node down 1 grid.
02:53:777 (5) - Same as 1:56. Maybe this was intentional.
03:09:034 (9) - ^
03:12:848 (7) - same as 2:00's.

Eating:
No real problems here, the square patterns started to get boring, but you had enough unpredictable patterns to keep it interesting otherwise.
vytalibus
<Storyboard>
01:52:747 (1) - While this part might be covered entirely by a spinner in all difficulties, it's just conventional to continue the strobes through this. Besides, in CTB they'll see this fully.

[Gumming]
01:08:881 (1,2,3,4) - This might be my slight alignment OCD twitching, but are these intentionally mis-aligned?

[Gnawing]
01:45:118 (1,2,3,4,5) - Separate (5) from the rest.
02:08:481 (5,6,7,8) - These don't look spaced-out nicely. Move (6) up a grid, if you may.
02:23:262 (7,8) - This is a precarious slider stack. You might want to move (8) away instead of stacking (7) on it.
03:20:954 (5,6,7,8) - Same with 02:08:481.

[Chewing]
02:02:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Random spacing. No-no.
Starting from 02:15:633 to 02:28:983, the spacing seems to have changed noticeably. Specifically, it seems to have become smaller by this mark.
03:14:756 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Same with 02:02:283.

[Eating]
Ugh, with the grid level at only two, the spacing seems to be wonky in random times. There's too many spacing issues here.
00:42:419 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Here's an example. Look at the spacing between (4) and (5) and compare it to the rest.
00:55:531 (1,1,1) - Why three spinners?
01:14:603 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Random spacing by the second half. Doesn't look that good.

<General>
This is more of an advice rather than a suggestion: if you have different patterns, try to space them out nicely. You don't want them to look cluttered and messy.
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