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Guu

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Guu 2014-09-29T04:36:10+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on August 11, 2015 at 4:18:28 PM

Artist: NieN
Title: For the Ikarus
Source: DJMAX
BPM: 154
Filesize: 7367kb
Play Time: 02:10
Difficulties Available:

HD (3.48 stars, 345 notes)
imouto's MX (4.28 stars, 492 notes)
MX (4.75 stars, 605 notes)
NM (1.91 stars, 205 notes)

Download: NieN - For the Ikarus
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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imouto's MX by imoutosan

Thanks modding from
Streliteela
Kagamine Ren
Nagi awa
KaedekaShizuru
Zxhzxhz
Autumn

Last edited by Guu 2015-08-11T20:18:58+00:00, edited 33 times in total.

Streliteela

612 posts

Joined January 2012

Streliteela 2014-10-07T14:23:56+00:00

哞姑爷爷窝来丽OwO（~~煮蛋大失败~~）

[General]

[*]进步还蛮大的，尤其MX难度做的有点那个feel了；但一些地方的排列还是稍显凌乱。HD和NM的问题相对多而且严重一些。这里需要强调的是，rank系统中对星数的上限要求虽然也很重要，但在实际作图的时候不要被这个东西束缚住；实际上，如果谱面排列得当的话，很少有hard难度会触碰到3.75这个上线的；nm也同样如此。所以，想把星数控制好，还是先要从排列方面着手，而不是单纯去miss节奏和降低arod

[*]音频方面，请改用192kbps或以下，并关闭所有难度的widescreen support

SPOILER

[NM]

[*]在此依旧建议ar-1，因为本图中nm是作为最低难度的，不宜选用过高ar
[*]nm谱面在制作的时候，首先一点就是要遵守严格ds一致原则；所以，请记得经常打开AiMod来校准一下个别地方的ds问题

SPOILER

[*]此外，想要做出整齐干净的nm谱面，首先要学会一些基本flow，比如平行和blacket。窝知道爷爷不喜欢这个，但在低难度diff制作中，这些东西都是必不可少的，它们是谱面整齐度和美观度的重要保障
[*]另外，一个最严重的问题是，图中使用的note太多了，而且部分节奏过于密集对新手难度过大。由于nm难度的ds一致性，这导致如果选择大ds的话note排列会很蠢；而如果把ds降得很低则整个图排列就会很挤放不开。所以，nm和ez中一般选用滑条数量要远多于note，就是避免因为ds过大note太多会看起来纠结的问题。
[*]总之要改的东西还非常多，所以下面就不细说了只是挑一些典型的：

00:09:355 (1,2) - nm里面很忌讳这种逆向的移动（就是滑条1走向向下但note2却在1上方），而且切忌遮挡，所以此处不妥
00:27:471 (8,9,10,1) - 遮挡太严重了
00:30:977 (1,2) - ^
00:48:899 (5,6) - ^
00:54:938 (6,7) - flow别手
00:56:886 (3) - 遮挡
01:00:003 (2) - ^
01:01:561 (5) - ^
01:28:444 (3) - ^
01:31:756 (4) - 这种也是，23向右4却向左，尽量保证移动方向一致以适合新手
02:03:897 (7) - 爷爷。。。

[HD]
[*]还是需要大改，同样存在局部遮挡过度和过于难读的问题，排列上略乱，而且还是以直线和折角为主（个人不太喜欢orz）而且乍一看有种cs5的错觉是肿么回事。。orz

00:09:257 (8) - 这遮挡太邪恶，读不出来
00:20:653 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - 个人非常不喜欢这种逆flow，非常别手
00:34:289 (1) - 爷爷扑通。。so weird
00:58:444 (9) - flow不好，别手
01:00:003 - 这里miss节奏不太好吧。。
01:01:561 - ^
01:02:340 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 爷爷扑通。。根本读不清楚，咱还是不要在hard难度里面用这种梗了吧哦日子
01:04:678 (5,6,7,8) - 还有这种短滑条梗。。这个已经是in难度了orz
01:17:924 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 爷爷窝要哭丽扑通
01:19:872 (2,3,4,5,6) - 爷爷窝真哭惹呜呜
01:45:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 虽然打起来没啥问题但怎么那么难看。。。
02:04:677 - 这里到后面貌似还有节奏，还是填上比较好些

[MX]
爷爷窝打不动啊所以摸不动orz感觉只有一个：kowaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
00:59:224 (1,2,3,4) - 节奏miss？

最后，让我们再大喊一句：哞姑爷爷神麻婆，扑通咣当哦日子

Guu

125 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Guu 2014-10-09T06:43:29+00:00

卧槽我存的draft哪里去了，皮皮你骗我QAQ

Streliteela wrote:
哞姑爷爷窝来丽OwO（~~煮蛋大失败~~）大囍过汪~

[General]

[*]进步还蛮大的，尤其MX难度做的有点那个feel了；但一些地方的排列还是稍显凌乱。HD和NM的问题相对多而且严重一些。这里需要强调的是，rank系统中对星数的上限要求虽然也很重要，但在实际作图的时候不要被这个东西束缚住；实际上，如果谱面排列得当的话，很少有hard难度会触碰到3.75这个上线的；nm也同样如此。所以，想把星数控制好，还是先要从排列方面着手，而不是单纯去miss节奏和降低arod
四暗刻……窝排列太蠢

[*]音频方面，请改用192kbps或以下，并关闭所有难度的widescreen support 嗯关掉了……音频先听着，等最后再换w

SPOILER

[NM]

[*]在此依旧建议ar-1，因为本图中nm是作为最低难度的，不宜选用过高ar
[*]nm谱面在制作的时候，首先一点就是要遵守严格ds一致原则；所以，请记得经常打开AiMod来校准一下个别地方的ds问题

SPOILER
[*]此外，想要做出整齐干净的nm谱面，首先要学会一些基本flow，比如平行和blacket。窝知道爷爷不喜欢这个，但在低难度diff制作中，这些东西都是必不可少的，它们是谱面整齐度和美观度的重要保障
[*]另外，一个最严重的问题是，图中使用的note太多了，而且部分节奏过于密集对新手难度过大。由于nm难度的ds一致性，这导致如果选择大ds的话note排列会很蠢；而如果把ds降得很低则整个图排列就会很挤放不开。所以，nm和ez中一般选用滑条数量要远多于note，就是避免因为ds过大note太多会看起来纠结的问题。
改改改~！

[*]总之要改的东西还非常多，所以下面就不细说了只是挑一些典型的：

00:09:355 (1,2) - nm里面很忌讳这种逆向的移动（就是滑条1走向向下但note2却在1上方），而且切忌遮挡，所以此处不妥
00:27:471 (8,9,10,1) - 遮挡太严重了
00:30:977 (1,2) - ^
00:48:899 (5,6) - ^
00:54:938 (6,7) - flow别手
00:56:886 (3) - 遮挡
01:00:003 (2) - ^
01:01:561 (5) - ^
01:28:444 (3) - ^
01:31:756 (4) - 这种也是，23向右4却向左，尽量保证移动方向一致以适合新手
02:03:897 (7) - 爷爷。。。
厚厚厚，以上基本全都改辣，回头再地毯式修整下……

[HD]
[*]还是需要大改，同样存在局部遮挡过度和过于难读的问题，排列上略乱，而且还是以直线和折角为主（个人不太喜欢orz）而且乍一看有种cs5的错觉是肿么回事。。orz

00:09:257 (8) - 这遮挡太邪恶，读不出来我也读不出来……orz
00:20:653 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - 个人非常不喜欢这种逆flow，非常别手 ;w;好吧
00:34:289 (1) - 爷爷扑通。。so weird 就要这个效果-w-
00:58:444 (9) - flow不好，别手确实……改掉辣
01:00:003 - 这里miss节奏不太好吧。。嗯。。加上了
01:01:561 - ^
01:02:340 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 爷爷扑通。。根本读不清楚，咱还是不要在hard难度里面用这种梗了吧哦日子
01:04:678 (5,6,7,8) - 还有这种短滑条梗。。这个已经是in难度了orz
01:17:924 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 爷爷窝要哭丽扑通
01:19:872 (2,3,4,5,6) - 爷爷窝真哭惹呜呜爷爷你太若丽（被殴飞
01:45:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 虽然打起来没啥问题但怎么那么难看。。。;w;改……
02:04:677 - 这里到后面貌似还有节奏，还是填上比较好些厚。那还是用转盘好了
[MX]
爷爷窝打不动啊所以摸不动orz感觉只有一个：kowaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
00:59:224 (1,2,3,4) - 节奏miss？故意的-w-，用来让触触们甩光标然后窝好prpr（够

最后，让我们再大喊一句：哞姑爷爷神麻婆，扑通咣当哦日子
………………哦日子 ball no black

M酱良心大摸我已prpr三十遍QAQ

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2014-10-14T15:18:33+00:00

姑爷爷ww

[General]

一个set的最低难度星数必须小于2，所以这个NM不行，超的有点多，建议remap，我就不摸了ww

[MX]

00:04:192 (8) - 这个往左一点，好看好读
00:06:043 (9,1) - 保持跟后面的跳的间距吧
00:08:868 (8,9,10) - overlap有点坑
00:10:426 (7) - 这个跟前面距离那么远，是人玩的？
00:11:108 (2) - 2和1重叠好一点
00:15:491 (12,1) - 距离稍微有点坑，不过也算是个梗啦，你看着办吧
00:16:757 (5,1) - 尽量避免这种垂直或者水平的滑条，弄一个角度，还有多拉弯一点的滑条，你这图直的太多了
00:18:705 (1) - 滑条头尾颠倒一下
00:20:263 (6) - NC
00:23:965 (8) - 这个滑条拉的跟左边对称多好看，顺便后面的四个滑条都可以这样，打起来也舒服
00:36:042 (6) - NC
00:40:523 (1,2) - 太难了
00:46:659 (12,1) - 同上
01:05:652 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 我感觉这一段可以放break，前面转盘
01:32:145 - NC
01:35:067 (1,2,3) - 二分拍最好别跟连打间距一样
02:01:365 (8) - finish
02:02:144 (3) - finish
02:02:729 (6) - finish
02:03:313 (9) - finish
02:03:897 (1) - finish

[HD]

00:16:173 (3,5) - 这俩滑条头尾没叠好
00:22:406 (3,5) - 同上
00:26:692 (6,7) - 这里来个串吧
00:39:159 (8,9,10) - 这里要么分开要么往下放，横着很奇怪
01:05:652 (1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 跟上面一样 break 你看着办吧
01:16:366 (8) - NC
这个diff木有音效啊

Guu

125 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Guu 2014-10-14T16:31:36+00:00

Kagamine Ren wrote:
姑爷爷ww

[General]
一个set的最低难度星数必须小于2，所以这个NM不行，超的有点多，建议remap，我就不摸了ww
orz实在不会做低难度

[MX]

00:04:192 (8) - 这个往左一点，好看好读唔，往左也不是很好看的感觉。。总之调整了一下
00:06:043 (9,1) - 保持跟后面的跳的间距吧间距一样有点没意思，我把之前的滑条弯过来了不知行不行。。。
00:08:868 (8,9,10) - overlap有点坑没有哇只是折角而已O.O
00:10:426 (7) - 这个跟前面距离那么远，是人玩的？ orz我把它放到6后面好了
00:11:108 (2) - 2和1重叠好一点唔。。。这里还是分开吧=。=
00:15:491 (12,1) - 距离稍微有点坑，不过也算是个梗啦，你看着办吧坑坑坑，不坑诗人？
00:16:757 (5,1) - 尽量避免这种垂直或者水平的滑条，弄一个角度，还有多拉弯一点的滑条，你这图直的太多了是多了点。。。回头改改
00:18:705 (1) - 滑条头尾颠倒一下不错诶O.O，好评
00:20:263 (6) - NC
00:23:965 (8) - 这个滑条拉的跟左边对称多好看，顺便后面的四个滑条都可以这样，打起来也舒服恩恩
00:36:042 (6) - NC
00:40:523 (1,2) - 太难了唔似乎是。。。我回头自己再打打看
00:46:659 (12,1) - 同上
01:05:652 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 我感觉这一段可以放break，前面转盘还是留着吧。没看出哪里能加转盘吖o.o
01:32:145 - NC
01:35:067 (1,2,3) - 二分拍最好别跟连打间距一样故意的。。。我再想想
02:01:365 (8) - finish
02:02:144 (3) - finish
02:02:729 (6) - finish
02:03:313 (9) - finish
02:03:897 (1) - finish 果然不能心急啊。。。我这最后是漏了多少orz
[HD]

00:16:173 (3,5) - 这俩滑条头尾没叠好 ;w;好难发现。。。叠好了
00:22:406 (3,5) - 同上 ;w;同上
00:26:692 (6,7) - 这里来个串吧 orz这个还是不要了吧
00:39:159 (8,9,10) - 这里要么分开要么往下放，横着很奇怪恩……移动了一下
01:05:652 (1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 跟上面一样 break 你看着办吧唔，这个难度的正在考虑
01:16:366 (8) - NC
这个diff木有音效啊喵……刚加完另两个难度还没来得及弄这个/ .\

蟹蟹w

Akatsuki Nagi

53 posts

Joined July 2014

Akatsuki Nagi 2014-10-16T19:07:30+00:00

~~终于能写一次中文mod了，爽~~
那么说好的先MX >~<
[MX]

00:16:757 (5,1) - 我感觉5和1分别ctrl+g打起来会舒服很多，你觉得呢>~<
00:19:289 (3,5) - 唔。。这里好像没有太重复的节奏，这两个滑条不用摆的感觉重复吧，试试把5和00:18:705 (1) - 对称一下？【当然后面的00:20:263 (6) - 也要跟着改
00:21:237 (10,11) - 这两个摆开来（不overlap）的话会好读很多，1pc我被坑到了T.T
00:26:107 (5,6,1) - 这里我test的时候（好像）没读懂56是四分拍间距，后来重新test又感觉很好读的样子T.T 建议找人试试
00:29:614 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - 这部分摆的有点乱了，控制一下note之间的间距吧>~<
00:38:964 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这里这样摆会读起来顺一点，大致是左边四分拍右边两分拍的规律的感觉，之前的摆法读到这里左边整个一条的缩圈看起来不齐【我会说我没读懂吗T.T
00:40:328 (12,1) - 同上面那个往返，摆开来才好读。（非要说原理的话，如果不背节奏，短往返滑条后面跟物件都是目押击打的，如果放在往返滑条下面那实在不好目押）
00:56:107 (1,2,3,4,5) - note间等间距吧，这样太丑了
01:05:652 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 这段好喜欢！
01:17:340 (5,6) - 同上，改不改都行，挺坑的
01:36:430 (12,1) - 同上
01:44:612 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这个单点+原地连打出现了三次吧，我觉得这种地方全图出现一两次挺带感的，次数多了有点无聊。三次勉强还算能接受。
01:54:353 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 这个往返连打梗超喜欢w
后面基本都摆的挺整齐的，赞一个。
然后说一下整个diff的感受：
以我的水平打这个MX还是挺吃力的，aim要求比较高，有几个地方也就是运气还行能勉强混上的程度T.T 打的时候比较明显的感觉是“太平了”，连打间距基本上是均匀的（所以有点累。。尤其是第二段kiai），只是整体之间略有变化（比较明显的第二段kiai大了一点能看得出来）。曲调实际上在这些连打段里有高低起伏，不过打的时候却并没有明显感受到变化。音效固然多少能体现一部分，但是间距的变动我觉得更重要一些。如果排列（哪怕只是后半段）里的间距能随着曲调的变化而变化我想这个图打起来会更爽。建议可以参考参考Hatsuki Yura - Yoiyami Hanabi结尾段的连打摆法，变化挺多的/w\
音效方面感觉还挺好的。。就不书了orz

这首歌简直赞赞赞不能更赞lwl
听多了有点上瘾/.\
O.O 感觉做的很用心呢，继续加油啦qwq
rank了想凹个FC估计要费点心思了T.T
加油>~<
p.s. 附个传送门：Murata Ayumi - Triangle Wave

Guu

125 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Guu 2014-10-16T20:20:20+00:00

Nagi awa wrote:
~~终于能写一次中文mod了，爽~~
那么说好的先MX >~<
[MX]

00:16:757 (5,1) - 我感觉5和1分别ctrl+g打起来会舒服很多，你觉得呢>~< 你书得队>w<
00:19:289 (3,5) - 唔。。这里好像没有太重复的节奏，这两个滑条不用摆的感觉重复吧，试试把5和00:18:705 (1) - 对称一下？【当然后面的00:20:263 (6) - 也要跟着改恩恩这个不错哦
00:21:237 (10,11) - 这两个摆开来（不overlap）的话会好读很多，1pc我被坑到了T.T
其实是开着ds摆的…那稍微拉开一点吧
00:26:107 (5,6,1) - 这里我test的时候（好像）没读懂56是四分拍间距，后来重新test又感觉很好读的样子T.T 建议找人试试这种确实不太合理，本来改了一波结果漏掉了这个/.\
00:29:614 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - 这部分摆的有点乱了，控制一下note之间的间距吧>~<
调整惹一下>.<
00:38:964 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这里这样摆会读起来顺一点，大致是左边四分拍右边两分拍的规律的感觉，之前的摆法读到这里左边整个一条的缩圈看起来不齐【我会说我没读懂吗T.T
嗯嗯嗯fixed
00:40:328 (12,1) - 同上面那个往返，摆开来才好读。（非要说原理的话，如果不背节奏，短往返滑条后面跟物件都是目押击打的，如果放在往返滑条下面那实在不好目押）好p.p
00:56:107 (1,2,3,4,5) - note间等间距吧，这样太丑了恩恩换了一种排列w
01:05:652 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 这段好喜欢！ / w\
01:17:340 (5,6) - 同上，改不改都行，挺坑的
01:36:430 (12,1) - 同上都加大惹w
01:44:612 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这个单点+原地连打出现了三次吧，我觉得这种地方全图出现一两次挺带感的，次数多了有点无聊。三次勉强还算能接受。厚，那我改成两次好了w
01:54:353 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 这个往返连打梗超喜欢w wwww
后面基本都摆的挺整齐的，赞一个。
然后说一下整个diff的感受：
以我的水平打这个MX还是挺吃力的，aim要求比较高，有几个地方也就是运气还行能勉强混上的程度T.T 打的时候比较明显的感觉是“太平了”，连打间距基本上是均匀的（所以有点累。。尤其是第二段kiai），只是整体之间略有变化（比较明显的第二段kiai大了一点能看得出来）。曲调实际上在这些连打段里有高低起伏，不过打的时候却并没有明显感受到变化。音效固然多少能体现一部分，但是间距的变动我觉得更重要一些。如果排列（哪怕只是后半段）里的间距能随着曲调的变化而变化我想这个图打起来会更爽。建议可以参考参考Hatsuki Yura - Yoiyami Hanabi结尾段的连打摆法，变化挺多的/w\
明白你的意思，不过柑橘好难啊。。。我慢慢研究下;w;
音效方面感觉还挺好的。。就不书了orz
这首歌简直赞赞赞不能更赞lwl
听多了有点上瘾/.\ 上瘾+65535，不过听太多会头痛orz
O.O 感觉做的很用心呢，继续加油啦qwq
rank了想凹个FC估计要费点心思了T.T qwq窝pass都要看脸
加油>~<
啊哇摸摸大（那个气泡熊抱心的表情）
p.s. 附个传送门：Murata Ayumi - Triangle Wave

KaedekaShizuru

625 posts

Joined January 2013

KaedekaShizuru 2014-10-23T12:53:56+00:00

from QQ
爷爷你萌都会做连打图
好难摸QAQ
本来想找前面的mod作参考结果发现你都re掉了？

[General]
跳coin注意你需要一个Insane难度

[MX]
00:26:789 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 没有特别的理由建议不要用麻花连打 01:22:892 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) 同
00:34:289 (1) - 略偷懒到00:34:679结束不要漏掉00:34:971这个鼓点
00:39:549 (4) - 加倍需要NC
00:59:224 (1) - 和00:59:126 (12)衔接在一起比较好？
另外这段我不建议这么空毕竟还是KIAI里
KIAI结束后那段我推荐多方一点二连
01:18:314 (2,3,4) - 相对后面衔接而言间距过大
01:19:873 (2,3,4) - ↑
01:30:392 (1) - 同00:34:289 (1) 可以拆出好多梗的说
02:03:313 (9) - ↑ 比如短滑条跳
02:04:677 (2) - NC

[HD]
SV1.4相比MX的2.2落差过大这样导致这个难度整体看上去像是堆在一起放不开
你应该把这个难度当作insane来做
00:34:289 (1) - 像这样的slider我不太好发表什么看法不过最好还是不要这样拉
01:04:678 (5,6,7,8) - 作为hard太难了吧

[NM]
简化到跟鼓点像这样鼓点很清晰的歌最好不要压在歌词上
00:11:692 (4) - 很微妙的感觉相对00:10:913 (3)的位置来说
00:28:055 (1) - 这个遮挡对于NM来说太难了
01:10:327 (3,4,5,6,7) - 1/3的单点对于NM来说太难了
01:24:158 (1,2) - 遮挡太难了
01:56:495 (2) - ↑

美丽
加油

Guu

125 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Guu 2014-10-24T02:31:51+00:00

KaedekaShizuru wrote:
from QQ
爷爷你萌都会做连打图
好难摸QAQ
本来想找前面的mod作参考结果发现你都re掉了？

爷爷……窝不会做啊QAQ

[General]
跳coin注意你需要一个Insane难度

[MX]
00:26:789 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 没有特别的理由建议不要用麻花连打 01:22:892 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) 同
呜啊这个我也是觉得不太好看但是不知道怎么改了……
00:34:289 (1) - 略偷懒到00:34:679结束不要漏掉00:34:971这个鼓点唔……也不是偷懒啦，这里跟的主旋律，可能有点不自然吧，改掉了~
00:39:549 (4) - 加倍需要NC fixed
00:59:224 (1) - 和00:59:126 (12)衔接在一起比较好？故意分开的，然后我也觉得不太自然。。。
另外这段我不建议这么空毕竟还是KIAI里其实第一段kiai我去掉了，AIMOD说我kiai时间过长……
KIAI结束后那段我推荐多方一点二连没有找到其他能放二连的地方啊= =
01:18:314 (2,3,4) - 相对后面衔接而言间距过大确实……想保留这个间距考虑弄个过渡但又不知道要怎么过;w;
01:19:873 (2,3,4) - ↑
01:30:392 (1) - 同00:34:289 (1) 可以拆出好多梗的说嗯嗯同上
02:03:313 (9) - ↑ 比如短滑条跳这个我觉得还好吧O.O
02:04:677 (2) - NC

[HD]
SV1.4相比MX的2.2落差过大这样导致这个难度整体看上去像是堆在一起放不开几乎全程ds真心放不开啊我太蠢;w;
你应该把这个难度当作insane来做找insane的gd辣，这个还是hard吧
00:34:289 (1) - 像这样的slider我不太好发表什么看法不过最好还是不要这样拉我觉得无比带感啊orz
01:04:678 (5,6,7,8) - 作为hard太难了吧唔，似乎是的。。。改改改

[NM]
简化到跟鼓点像这样鼓点很清晰的歌最好不要压在歌词上唔。。那做出来就毫无变化了orz我太弱
00:11:692 (4) - 很微妙的感觉相对00:10:913 (3)的位置来说调整了一下O.O
00:28:055 (1) - 这个遮挡对于NM来说太难了嗯。。。改了
01:10:327 (3,4,5,6,7) - 1/3的单点对于NM来说太难了噫……我也一直在犹豫这里。前面也放了很多滑条来过渡到这个节奏，应该可以打吧。。
01:24:158 (1,2) - 遮挡太难了 fixed
01:56:495 (2) - ↑

美丽
加油

蟹蟹！QuO

Fushimi Rio

Fushimi Rio 2014-11-11T11:57:41+00:00

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Spiral

29 posts

Joined July 2013

Spiral 2014-11-20T16:02:10+00:00

哇卡卡

zxhzxhz

70 posts

Joined November 2012

zxhzxhz 2015-01-05T23:08:11+00:00

姑爷爷我来了扑通
[General]
O.O
[MX]
美如画
00:05:929 (7) - Gtrl+G
00:09:435 (1) - 好别扭的走向orz 感觉有点浑♂身♂难♂受（_(:з」∠)_
00:12:552 (1,2,3,4) - 节奏可以试试这个样子的

00:19:760 (4) - 这个节奏有点不适应，这个4的尾巴压在白线上，下面的5就感觉有点乱（如果你考虑到vocal那当我没说
00:21:318 (1) - 这个地方我听了听感觉不是很明显_(:з」∠)_，如果能换成四分的连打就好惹（感觉改不改无所谓？
00:23:461 (6) - 还是听起来别扭Orz，特别是那个miss音的滑条QAQ 感觉这样？

00:53:461 (2,3) - 互换下位置
01:04:760 - 添一个短滑条
01:37:097 (2,3) - 两个都加白点
01:51:318 (4) - Gtrl+G
02:03:396 (4,5) - 什么鬼（我说我打的时候怎么老是断
怎么滑条大部分是直的QAQ是个人style么根本看不懂号码
不敢摸了（那个跑着哭的表情
小小吐槽下：那个重叠的单点的梗太没人性了，dt简直能玩
[HD]
感觉还是需要一些高质量的摸_(:з」∠)_
00:03:981 (3,4) - Blanket
00:05:539 (7) - 最好能弄弯_(:з」∠)_
00:12:358 (4) - 间距
00:16:838 (3) - 掰♂弯（貌似弯不弯都有感觉Orz
00:20:344 (5,6) - 形状和间距再仔细搞一搞
00:27:065 (6) - blanket
00:27:357 (7) - 弯的有点过了吧Orz
01:23:851 (1) - nc
01:28:137 (3) - 换成S形的滑条
02:03:981 (1) - 看起来有点蠢_(:з」∠)_
该no change就no change，不要勉强QAQ
[NM]
有点看不太懂，这样的排列真的可以么otz

摸完惹
点个赞，祝早日rank

Guu

125 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Guu 2015-01-06T01:58:59+00:00

zxhzxhz wrote:
姑爷爷我来了扑通
zx爷爷回扑通

[HD]
感觉还是需要一些高质量的摸_(:з」∠)_
00:03:981 (3,4) - Blanket
00:05:539 (7) - 最好能弄弯_(:з」∠)_ 这两个故意做成折角的。。看别人怎么说
00:12:358 (4) - 间距调整了一点o.o
00:16:838 (3) - 掰♂弯（貌似弯不弯都有感觉Orz 不了吧Orz
00:20:344 (5,6) - 形状和间距再仔细搞一搞微调惹一下
00:27:065 (6) - blanket 嗯嗯
00:27:357 (7) - 弯的有点过了吧Orz Orz改成圆的了
01:23:851 (1) - nc ok
01:28:137 (3) - 换成S形的滑条唔。。不太明白你的意思。我这里是blanket的
02:03:981 (1) - 看起来有点蠢_(:з」∠)_ Orz改成直的了
该no change就no change，不要勉强QAQ
QAQ大部分都change辣。

[NM]
有点看不太懂，这样的排列真的可以么otz
OOOrz ……大概……吧？

摸完惹
点个赞，祝早日rank
谢谢谢QUQ

Autumn

501 posts

Joined October 2011

Autumn 2015-01-11T09:40:23+00:00

NM

SV略高
00:24:240 (5) - http://puu.sh/emwtx/0b97769615.jpg
00:25:799 (2) - 这个遮挡，作死 °ω°
01:21:903 (2) - ^
00:30:475 (2) - 被3挡住了，不好看

HD

00:20:344 (5) - NC
00:51:513 (7) - ^
00:32:422 (4,5) - 这里的节奏我觉得改成1/2滑条+1/2滑条比较合适，让两个重音落到滑条头上，同时避免了00:33:201 - 这里的漏音http://puu.sh/emwkR/f0e5e63c9c.jpg（顺便滑条最好使用NC）
00:36:123 (5) - 这里没有提示突然放3/4容易坑人，Hard间距什么的最好还是按常规来
01:32:227 (5) - ^
00:47:617 (3) - 第一个白点改成红点，和00:47:227 (2) - 平行比较好看
00:49:175 (3) - ^
01:02:422 (1,2) - 直接stack滑条尾比较好看
01:10:702 (3,4) - 分开来吧 http://puu.sh/emvXp/ab3319e73e.jpg
01:25:409 (5) - 这个和前后平行多好看

imouto's MX

有一些漏音本来是不用改的，但MX难度没了，现在你的难度成了最高难度，最好稍微排满一点
遮挡有点多，AR8稍微有点不够，弄个小数AR什么的玩玩
00:52:292 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 由于Stack Leniency的存在，最好摆开一点
01:03:981 (1,2,3,4) - 12和34错开一点，完全遮挡的短滑条容易被挑
00:59:890 - 01:01:448 - 漏音了，既然是kiai补全好一点.和01:00:669 (3,4,1) - 一样处理
另外01:00:669 (3,4,1) -用了NC，但是01:56:773 (3,4,5) -又没用，最好统一一下
01:21:123 - 白线重音加个红点强调一下，像01:30:474 (1) - 一样
01:31:253 - 漏音，添上比较好
01:55:994 - 01:57:552 - 漏音，不如都和01:56:773 (3,4,5) - 一样处理

红点是门学问。用好了能大幅美化滑条，用不好的就起到相反效果。
有关红点的用法，参考Beren,kiiwa,niva和skystar后期少数滑条的画法（Colin弄得那种slider art就算了，学不来）

Guu

125 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Guu 2015-01-11T19:14:52+00:00

Autumn wrote:
NM
SV略高嘤QuQ 这个真没法改了
00:24:240 (5) - http://puu.sh/emwtx/0b97769615.jpg 哇效果拔群
00:25:799 (2) - 这个遮挡，作死 °ω° orz改了。窝那会大概脑抽
01:21:903 (2) - ^
00:30:475 (2) - 被3挡住了，不好看
调整了
HD
00:20:344 (5) - NC
00:51:513 (7) - ^ 加了，还有其他几个地方也统一了下
00:32:422 (4,5) - 这里的节奏我觉得改成1/2滑条+1/2滑条比较合适，让两个重音落到滑条头上，同时避免了00:33:201 - 这里的漏音http://puu.sh/emwkR/f0e5e63c9c.jpg（顺便滑条最好使用NC）唔，这里不是很想改……每个人对节奏的体会不同吧= =
00:36:123 (5) - 这里没有提示突然放3/4容易坑人，Hard间距什么的最好还是按常规来诶诶;w; 窝还觉得是亮点呢。先放置一下看看别人怎么说……
01:32:227 (5) - ^
00:47:617 (3) - 第一个白点改成红点，和00:47:227 (2) - 平行比较好看嗯嗯好看owo
00:49:175 (3) - ^
01:02:422 (1,2) - 直接stack滑条尾比较好看改啦
01:10:702 (3,4) - 分开来吧 http://puu.sh/emvXp/ab3319e73e.jpg 分开了
01:25:409 (5) - 这个和前后平行多好看
嗯嗯

红点是门学问。用好了能大幅美化滑条，用不好的就起到相反效果。
有关红点的用法，参考Beren,kiiwa,niva和skystar后期少数滑条的画法（Colin弄得那种slider art就算了，学不来）
是啊滑条好难呢;w; 回头学学。谢谢秋天~

Fushimi Rio

Fushimi Rio 2015-01-15T04:43:43+00:00

Autumn wrote:
imouto's MX
有一些漏音本来是不用改的，但MX难度没了，现在你的难度成了最高难度，最好稍微排满一点有的空当加了圈有的我觉得加了之后有点平平
遮挡有点多，AR8稍微有点不够，弄个小数AR什么的玩玩 8.5
00:52:292 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 由于Stack Leniency的存在，最好摆开一点调了调位子感觉舒服了点
01:03:981 (1,2,3,4) - 12和34错开一点，完全遮挡的短滑条容易被挑改了顺序
00:59:890 - 01:01:448 - 漏音了，既然是kiai补全好一点.和01:00:669 (3,4,1) - 一样处理我觉得不加好一点排满了有点平淡
另外01:00:669 (3,4,1) -用了NC，但是01:56:773 (3,4,5) -又没用，最好统一一下统一了
01:21:123 - 白线重音加个红点强调一下，像01:30:474 (1) - 一样好
01:31:253 - 漏音，添上比较好加了
01:55:994 - 01:57:552 - 漏音，不如都和01:56:773 (3,4,5) - 一样处理同之前

红点是门学问。用好了能大幅美化滑条，用不好的就起到相反效果。
有关红点的用法，参考Beren,kiiwa,niva和skystar后期少数滑条的画法（Colin弄得那种slider art就算了，学不来）

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