18:57 Lust: lets go over your difficulties now while the metadata is being confirmed
18:57 Rakuen: thanks :)
18:59 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/435499 Hanatan - Uta ni Katachi wa Nai keredo [Normal]]
18:59 Lust: 00:47:072 (2,3) - i suggest you unstack this to avoid any potential confusion
18:59 Lust: the blue blends in to the bg so seeing the stack might be hard for newer players playing with no bg dim
19:00 Lust: 01:05:133 (3) - the rhythm here is not right, if you play this back on 25% you can hear the stronger beat is on the white tick not the blue
19:01 Lust: the vocal is on the red tick if you were wanting to follow that
19:03 Lust: http://puu.sh/bTfsU/9144acb067.jpg you can try something like this
19:03 Lust: 01:17:072 (2,3) - same unstack thing i suggested to you earlier
19:04 Lust: 01:33:297 (1) - i suggest you remove the break here, its really short and players will be expecting a long pause when there is actually only a few seconds of break
19:07 Lust: 01:59:929 (4,3) - 4's hitburst blocks view of 3's repeat
19:07 Lust: i suggest you move the direction of the slider because this is unqualifiable
19:07 Lust: straight up and down works
19:08 Lust: 03:23:807 (1) - another break you should delete
19:08 Rakuen: all applied :)
19:13 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/439466 Hanatan - Uta ni Katachi wa Nai keredo [Hard]]
19:13 Lust: remember to delete the breaks here too
19:14 Rakuen: yep, sure
19:17 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/451003 Hanatan - Uta ni Katachi wa Nai keredo [Kin's Easy]]
19:17 Lust: 05:03:909 (1) - this slider will have to be changed, the slider border on the inside is not visible thus the path the slider ball will take is unclear
19:18 Lust: furthermore, an easy player may not be able to guess that it is a loop
19:19 Lust: usually sliders like this are reserved for higher level players because of higher slider velocity
19:19 Rakuen: is it possible to replace it with a spinner to 05:05:746 - ?
19:19 Lust: here this can go either way
19:19 Lust: yes
19:19 Lust: thats perfectly fine
19:19 Lust: 05:06:358 (1) - although if you do so, this would be far away from the center of the spinner thus making it hard to find
19:20 Lust: when newer players are spinning they will get lost trying to find it, and it appears during the spin
19:20 Lust: i suggest ending the spinner there instead
19:26 Rakuen: discussed with oracle
19:27 Rakuen: he asked me just to change to YURica
19:27 Rakuen: YURiCa*
19:27 Lust: who did he hear that from?
19:27 Rakuen: it's from Gero's post tho
19:27 Rakuen: but in my opinion Hanatan is fine
19:28 Lust: if we went by geros post it would be hanatan o yurica
19:29 Rakuen: asked KSHR a while ago, only mentioned the song name "Keredo" > "keredo" becoz of the grammar
19:46 Lust: alright

19:23 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/509269 Hanatan - Uta ni Katachi wa Nai keredo [Oracle's Insane]]
19:23 Lust: in the meanwhile
19:24 Lust: 01:52:276 (1,2,6) - this is really hard to read and play because 6 is obscured by 1 and 2's hitbursts
19:24 Oracle: ah
19:24 Lust: also 6 appears while 1 is in play which makes it even more hard to read
19:26 Oracle: let's see if i could change the pattern
19:26 Lust: yeah you will also need to use a consistent 1/4 spacing there like you have in the rest of the difficulty
19:26 Lust: since 1 2 3 and 4 are all spaced closer than usual it makes it even more hard to play
19:27 Oracle: how about adding NC?
19:27 Lust: not good enough
19:27 Lust: i tried that and its still kinda strange to play
19:29 Oracle: hmm....
19:29 Oracle: got any idea on this?
19:30 Lust: just space out the 1/4 and then arrange the sliders so they still blanket 01:51:358 (3) - 
19:33 Lust: while you are doing that, i'll point out more suggestions to save time
19:34 Lust: 02:00:236 (1) - move this over more to the upper right, 01:59:317 (4) - 's swing doesnt qutie hit 1's slider start making it a bit awkward
19:34 Lust: of course you will need to rearrange the pattern again
19:34 Lust: 02:09:725 (7) - NC to show the anti-jump and change in the 1/2 spacing
19:36 Oracle: http://puu.sh/bThvs/1b192bce9f.jpg
19:36 Oracle: it's probably the best i can do
19:36 Oracle: i want to maintain the stream in low spacing here
19:36 Oracle: to have an impact with the spaced stream following up
19:37 Oracle: which is here 01:54:572 (2,3,4) -
19:39 Lust: thats what makes it difficult to play
19:39 Lust: it is such a sharp contrast between the two spacings when the timing signature is the same
19:39 Lust: as well as the hitbursts make it even more confusing
19:40 Lust: 03:44:929 (1,2,2) - same here i am afraid
19:40 Oracle: it's ....actually not that hard
19:41 Oracle: i've gathered many testplays from players of different levels
19:41 Oracle: seems to be fine....;w;
19:41 Lust: if you want to keep the spacing, fine but you will have to move the slider that is underneath the hitbursts no matter what
19:41 Oracle: where is the hitburst?
19:41 Oracle: i can't see one....orz
19:42 Oracle: oh
19:42 Oracle: you mean 300s?
19:42 Lust: http://puu.sh/bThSZ/5ac143332a.jpg
19:43 Lust: ...yes that is what a hitburst is xD
19:44 Oracle: http://puu.sh/bThXC/4c78464610.jpg
19:44 Oracle: how about this
19:44 Lust: perfect
19:46 Oracle: so...
19:46 Oracle: http://puu.sh/bTi62/372273c8e3.jpg
19:46 Oracle: nothing is hidden, happy?
19:46 Lust: yeeee
19:46 Oracle: \:D/
19:46 Lust: if you fixed everything i said go tell rakuen to update
19:47 Oracle: also i got KSHR's words
19:47 Oracle: Hanatan is FINE
19:47 Oracle: no need to change the artist
19:47 Oracle: even happier
19:47 Lust: sweet
19:47 Lust: tell KSHR to post in the thread
19:47 Lust: for verification