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Mei
好累啊感觉没睡够 :(

[oracle's insaee]
  1. 00:08:195 (5,6,1) - 这里ds渐大啊,45之间1.1,56之间1.2,,6和下一个1.5试试这样
  2. 00:51:358 (2) - 后面的蓝线上有钢琴,这里用1/4滑条怎样
  3. 01:01:460 (1,2) - 虽然无伤大雅但是这个肯定没包好:P
  4. 01:12:480 (4,5,6,7,8) - 这样感觉跟贴和音乐.-.
  5. 01:17:225 (5) - 这个删掉或者前一个note改成1/4滑条感觉好听些
  6. 01:24:572 (3) - 白线上有鼓啊,建议别漏
  7. 01:27:021 (3) - 这个我也感觉是去掉了好听
  8. 01:46:460 (3,4,5) - 不好打,试试这样
  9. 02:12:480 (1,2,3,4,5) - 在这里种点草?做个音量渐大
  10. 02:16:919 (7) - 这个也是删掉了好听
  11. 04:14:929 (1,2) - 试试这样
我来给低阶助攻8888
Oracle
also for the reason i'm a bit rush on my diff: my diff is added this month while the set has been in pending for months. I've asked for quite a lot of testplays and opinions from mappers/players before actually asking for mods. I really don't want my diff delaying the progress of the mapset.
Plus Rakuen told me his birthday is coming soon and he's a big fan of hanatan. I decided to try to help getting the set ranked as a birthday present for him. a.k.a birthday map!!

Mahua

[Mahua] wrote:

ingame req
[Oracle's Insane]
00:23:807 (4) - move to 40.180 and blanket with 00:23:195 (3) prefer current one
00:35:440 (2) - move to 104.188 and the tail move to 12.196 cool
00:43:093 (3) - copy 00:41:868 (1) and move to 16.173 ok
00:44:317 (1) - move to 261.323 nah
00:55:644 (4) - copy 00:55:031 (3) and move to 104.216 prefer mine
02:17:838 - idk add note is good got no clues on placement
03:00:848 (8) - [box=move to 280.332] tried by prefer mine!

good map good luck XD
Thank you for modding xD
yuko

Amamiya Yuko wrote:

Mod for Oracle's diff as requested
[Oracle's Insane]
  • 00:01:766 (1) - As a beginning of the song, I'd suggest using a more amazing pattern than this, try this? looks cool
  1. 00:08:807 (1,2) - According to the piano, swapping the NC would suit more. following patterns here
  2. 00:11:256 (5,6,7,8) - Make a speed up to emphasize? Since the music goes high here. Here's an example (Velocity x1.2): prefer the original
  3. 00:33:909 (1) - You added a NC on this note, yet, it's not that unique pattern compared to others, why don't go with something more amazing? removed NC instead
  4. 00:53:195 (6) - Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, this sound deserves more attention, not just a simple 1/2 slider. ;~; This is what I'd use, but if you have got around anything better than this, feel free to deny mine: changed
  5. 02:16:613 (5,6,7,8) - What's wrong with these lol. Make the triangle perfect plz. fixed
  6. 03:23:807 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think adding NC on every single one would look cool, but up to you if you think that it might be considered abusing. nah
  7. 05:23:501 (1,2,3,4) - Gradually reducing the SV would fit the music VERY WELL. Specifically, x0.8 > x0.7 > x0.6 > x0.5, and here's an example for the placement:very cool idea
Overall, a pretty cool and solid map, good luck!
Thank you xingye!!!very helpful mod!!
smallboat

smallboat wrote:

Forum PM.
[Oracle's Insane]
  1. 00:31:766 (2) - Suggest change a note here,will be played better I think. still prefer mine!
  2. 01:53:194 (6) - Feel have the unrank issue,because slider end has been covered by previous notes...lol i guess it's safe xD
  3. 02:16:613 (5,8) - Why not make a tringle,make the DS keep consistent? [/color]
  4. 03:45:542 (1) - As the same 01:53:194 (6).same!
谢谢船业,船业辛苦了
irie

Irie Miyuki wrote:

你面子大的把irie都请来了 哎 谢谢爷爷
杀死强迫症的地方。。我就不说了。。
SPOILER
炸了你

[Oracle]
00:28:093 (3) - 这个形状ctrl+h一下我感觉比较顺啊 这边前半部分做blanket啊
01:06:358 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里随便提个建议啊 不要拘泥于pattern 跟一下音高放note也是很好玩的。。打个比方01:06:358 (1,2) - 这个ctrl+g一下 不过我觉得现在这样就ok了 还是不要动了hhhh 好好
01:33:297 (1,2,3,4) - 把13放在一条线上? 24一样
01:54:725 (3,4,5,6) - 距离拉开一点打起来好玩 DT就不好玩了
02:24:113 (1,2,3,4,5) - 稍微顺时针转个方向吧 现在6 1 2几乎在同一条直线上 感觉不太好 这个隔了1/2没事的
03:17:072 (4) - 我还是随便说下啊。。你不要在意 我感觉这个不适合跟2 stack 完了以后直滑条也不好 http://puu.sh/bRLkf/8f36deba7a.jpg 这样看看?
03:47:378 (3,4,5,6) - 跟前面说的一样啊 DT了以后才150不到你干嘛疯狂DS 这你得问问兴业,我抄他的啊。而且我想DT,再大了我自己打不了。
05:06:358 (1,2) - 继续nazi啊 这个1和2下来的flow不好.. 你稍微把2顺时针转一下.. 改改改


然后说说我为啥觉得局限性太大吧 .-. 反正大家都是抄梗流mapper 抄梗的时候要考虑一下合适不合适 为什么原来那个梗会出现在那张图里
其实很大程度上都是为了配合音高/乐器 或者有点啥别的爽的 为梗而梗的梗我觉得还是有点奇怪的
然后你这图用的ds比较多 我也是刚从ds坑里跳出来 你这98bpm的1/4 也不就是196bpm的1/2嘛 你看看我们空气人都能打了 怎么会打不了区区1/2
鼓比较重的时候就跳起来啊2333 就是不想做那么难啊.-.

最后我才是pro对三角选手!!
谢谢detailed mod111
meichan

Mei wrote:

好累啊感觉没睡够 :(

[oracle's insaee]
  1. 00:08:195 (5,6,1) - 这里ds渐大啊,45之间1.1,56之间1.2,,6和下一个1.5试试这样 想做成几何啊
  2. 00:51:358 (2) - 后面的蓝线上有钢琴,这里用1/4滑条怎样 纯calm的部分想强调vocal
  3. 01:01:460 (1,2) - 虽然无伤大雅但是这个肯定没包好:P 对对 修了
  4. 01:12:480 (4,5,6,7,8) - 这样感觉跟贴和音乐.-. .-.图美丽
  5. 01:17:225 (5) - 这个删掉或者前一个note改成1/4滑条感觉好听些 我感觉现在这样也还行
  6. 01:24:572 (3) - 白线上有鼓啊,建议别漏 不知道怎么改.-.
  7. 01:27:021 (3) - 这个我也感觉是去掉了好听 感觉还好啦w
  8. 01:46:460 (3,4,5) - 不好打,试试这样 图挂了。。
  9. 02:12:480 (1,2,3,4,5) - 在这里种点草?做个音量渐大
  10. 02:16:919 (7) - 这个也是删掉了好听 对的删掉了
  11. 04:14:929 (1,2) - 试试这样 神神神
我来给低阶助攻8888
么么哒!好useful啊
wkyik!

Kawaiwkyik wrote:

as oraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa req
練練英文

[Oracle]
  1. 00:21:052 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - make it more sleek... ok!
  2. 00:23:807 (4) - blanket with00:23:195 (3) - head prefer the current direction
  3. 00:35:440 - i think can add more whistle on this part, for example00:35:746 - 00:36:358 - 00:38:195 - kk
  4. 00:50:133 - whistle too a bit noisy
  5. 01:02:684 (3) - head drum-finish tail drum-whistle ok
  6. 01:03:297 (4) - head drum-clap tail drum-finish added
  7. 01:35:133 (4) - ctrl+h nice!
  8. 02:14:317 (1,2,3) - sliders seem same as 01:34:827 (3,4,5) - , player maybe read it to 1/4 slider here i guess players can really tell from the pattern plus i didn't see anyone miss this when testing
  9. 03:27:174 (1,2) - 我記得原本是放中間的 放中間吧 据说这样更好打,就改了
  10. 04:14:623 (5,3) - stack better okok
  11. 04:26:562 (1,2,3) - same yeye

rip my english 写的挺好的
谢谢柚子!!
Rizia
as oraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa req
練練英文

[Oracle]
  1. 00:21:052 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - make it more sleek...
  2. 00:23:807 (4) - blanket with00:23:195 (3) - head
  3. 00:35:440 - i think can add more whistle on this part, for example00:35:746 - 00:36:358 - 00:38:195 -
  4. 00:50:133 - whistle too
  5. 01:02:684 (3) - head drum-finish tail drum-whistle
  6. 01:03:297 (4) - head drum-clap tail drum-finish
  7. 01:35:133 (4) - ctrl+h
  8. 02:14:317 (1,2,3) - sliders seem same as 01:34:827 (3,4,5) - , player maybe read it to 1/4 slider here
  9. 03:27:174 (1,2) - 我記得原本是放中間的 放中間吧
  10. 04:14:623 (5,3) - stack better
  11. 04:26:562 (1,2,3) - same

rip my english
smallboat
Rechecked all diffs seems looks like acceptable quality enough now.

Bubbled !

5分鐘的qua图,夫妻了
Natsu
According to Gero post p/3406980 your artist is wrong
Lust
IRC modded with both Rakuen and Oracle

Logs on Logs on Logs
18:57 Lust: lets go over your difficulties now while the metadata is being confirmed
18:57 Rakuen: thanks :)
18:59 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/435499 Hanatan - Uta ni Katachi wa Nai keredo [Normal]]
18:59 Lust: 00:47:072 (2,3) - i suggest you unstack this to avoid any potential confusion
18:59 Lust: the blue blends in to the bg so seeing the stack might be hard for newer players playing with no bg dim
19:00 Lust: 01:05:133 (3) - the rhythm here is not right, if you play this back on 25% you can hear the stronger beat is on the white tick not the blue
19:01 Lust: the vocal is on the red tick if you were wanting to follow that
19:03 Lust: http://puu.sh/bTfsU/9144acb067.jpg you can try something like this
19:03 Lust: 01:17:072 (2,3) - same unstack thing i suggested to you earlier
19:04 Lust: 01:33:297 (1) - i suggest you remove the break here, its really short and players will be expecting a long pause when there is actually only a few seconds of break
19:07 Lust: 01:59:929 (4,3) - 4's hitburst blocks view of 3's repeat
19:07 Lust: i suggest you move the direction of the slider because this is unqualifiable
19:07 Lust: straight up and down works
19:08 Lust: 03:23:807 (1) - another break you should delete
19:08 Rakuen: all applied :)
19:13 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/439466 Hanatan - Uta ni Katachi wa Nai keredo [Hard]]
19:13 Lust: remember to delete the breaks here too
19:14 Rakuen: yep, sure
19:17 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/451003 Hanatan - Uta ni Katachi wa Nai keredo [Kin's Easy]]
19:17 Lust: 05:03:909 (1) - this slider will have to be changed, the slider border on the inside is not visible thus the path the slider ball will take is unclear
19:18 Lust: furthermore, an easy player may not be able to guess that it is a loop
19:19 Lust: usually sliders like this are reserved for higher level players because of higher slider velocity
19:19 Rakuen: is it possible to replace it with a spinner to 05:05:746 - ?
19:19 Lust: here this can go either way
19:19 Lust: yes
19:19 Lust: thats perfectly fine
19:19 Lust: 05:06:358 (1) - although if you do so, this would be far away from the center of the spinner thus making it hard to find
19:20 Lust: when newer players are spinning they will get lost trying to find it, and it appears during the spin
19:20 Lust: i suggest ending the spinner there instead
19:26 Rakuen: discussed with oracle
19:27 Rakuen: he asked me just to change to YURica
19:27 Rakuen: YURiCa*
19:27 Lust: who did he hear that from?
19:27 Rakuen: it's from Gero's post tho
19:27 Rakuen: but in my opinion Hanatan is fine
19:28 Lust: if we went by geros post it would be hanatan o yurica
19:29 Rakuen: asked KSHR a while ago, only mentioned the song name "Keredo" > "keredo" becoz of the grammar
19:46 Lust: alright

19:23 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/509269 Hanatan - Uta ni Katachi wa Nai keredo [Oracle's Insane]]
19:23 Lust: in the meanwhile
19:24 Lust: 01:52:276 (1,2,6) - this is really hard to read and play because 6 is obscured by 1 and 2's hitbursts
19:24 Oracle: ah
19:24 Lust: also 6 appears while 1 is in play which makes it even more hard to read
19:26 Oracle: let's see if i could change the pattern
19:26 Lust: yeah you will also need to use a consistent 1/4 spacing there like you have in the rest of the difficulty
19:26 Lust: since 1 2 3 and 4 are all spaced closer than usual it makes it even more hard to play
19:27 Oracle: how about adding NC?
19:27 Lust: not good enough
19:27 Lust: i tried that and its still kinda strange to play
19:29 Oracle: hmm....
19:29 Oracle: got any idea on this?
19:30 Lust: just space out the 1/4 and then arrange the sliders so they still blanket 01:51:358 (3) -
19:33 Lust: while you are doing that, i'll point out more suggestions to save time
19:34 Lust: 02:00:236 (1) - move this over more to the upper right, 01:59:317 (4) - 's swing doesnt qutie hit 1's slider start making it a bit awkward
19:34 Lust: of course you will need to rearrange the pattern again
19:34 Lust: 02:09:725 (7) - NC to show the anti-jump and change in the 1/2 spacing
19:36 Oracle: http://puu.sh/bThvs/1b192bce9f.jpg
19:36 Oracle: it's probably the best i can do
19:36 Oracle: i want to maintain the stream in low spacing here
19:36 Oracle: to have an impact with the spaced stream following up
19:37 Oracle: which is here 01:54:572 (2,3,4) -
19:39 Lust: thats what makes it difficult to play
19:39 Lust: it is such a sharp contrast between the two spacings when the timing signature is the same
19:39 Lust: as well as the hitbursts make it even more confusing
19:40 Lust: 03:44:929 (1,2,2) - same here i am afraid
19:40 Oracle: it's ....actually not that hard
19:41 Oracle: i've gathered many testplays from players of different levels
19:41 Oracle: seems to be fine....;w;
19:41 Lust: if you want to keep the spacing, fine but you will have to move the slider that is underneath the hitbursts no matter what
19:41 Oracle: where is the hitburst?
19:41 Oracle: i can't see one....orz
19:42 Oracle: oh
19:42 Oracle: you mean 300s?
19:42 Lust: http://puu.sh/bThSZ/5ac143332a.jpg
19:43 Lust: ...yes that is what a hitburst is xD
19:44 Oracle: http://puu.sh/bThXC/4c78464610.jpg
19:44 Oracle: how about this
19:44 Lust: perfect
19:46 Oracle: so...
19:46 Oracle: http://puu.sh/bTi62/372273c8e3.jpg
19:46 Oracle: nothing is hidden, happy?
19:46 Lust: yeeee
19:46 Oracle: \:D/
19:46 Lust: if you fixed everything i said go tell rakuen to update
19:47 Oracle: also i got KSHR's words
19:47 Oracle: Hanatan is FINE
19:47 Oracle: no need to change the artist
19:47 Oracle: even happier
19:47 Lust: sweet
19:47 Lust: tell KSHR to post in the thread
19:47 Lust: for verification

Call me back when you are satisfied with everything and with confirmation that the metadata is correct.
Melophobia
Hanatan and Yurika are the same person but she used 2 different names, Hanatan for vocaloid covers and Yurika for Touhou/doujin works. I have discussed with a few people about this and we all came to the conclusion that the Artist is fine as it is now.

Edit: Read this post for details p/3407933
Lust
Nice

[Hard]
Fix these unsnapped slider ends and then call me back
  1. 04:44:317 (1) -
  2. 04:45:542 (4) -
Topic Starter
Rakuen
Updated~
Lust
Qualified.
Oracle
happy birthday my friend.
i hope you like our birthday gift. :)

i hope the birthday rank won't be broken ;w;
Irie Miyuki
congratz
[ Mephisto ]
Easy Diff in 5 minute song O_O
MrPotato
Gratz, and just cause I was wondering, was it you who took the patterns from skystar's marathon or was it skystar who took it from here?
Gaia
Grats on qualifying~ o/
Asagi
Gratz and Happy Birthday \:3/
Xinely
oh grats and happy birthday :3~
Asphyxia
Disqualified quickly due to the missing clap in normal difficulty (mapper requested)!

And we should be good to go, here's your heart back!
Mao
Dat Missing Clap xD
Gratz and Happy Birthday Rakuen! :3
happy623
wohoo
Atsuko Suwa
Like my present? (just watch my replay if you don't know XD)
happy birthday ~

so...get a higher score and replace me in normal(・∀・)
Topic Starter
Rakuen
Thanks all :)
Pho
Came too late ;-;
/o/ Bleated best wishes and gratz to the rank! \o\
Kin
Congratz ! now you can edit your signature \o
Eni
grats Rakuen & GDers~
Koalazy
Ohh Grats!!!!!(sorry late QwQ
YukikazeShigure
best song
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