electrolytes wrote:

We Go Down is heavenly. Seriously - the use of blanketing and symmetry throughout, the rotating part transitioning to the chorus, the red sliders, the 8-slider patterns toward the end, and how you map repeated phrases. It's both beautiful to watch and has a lot of flow when playing. I could make similar comments about the others as well (especially blanketing/symmetry).

And I don't have any problems with Cambodia - that's my second favorite and the repeat sliders before the drop are one of the most memorable parts: I can feel the buildup way better than with a spinner.

I'm going to have a hard time going back to normal Nightcore maps after this...

Thank you very much <3 That's one of the map i put the most work on, so i'm happy that you like it.

About Cambodia i agree with you and i prefer with the slider instead of the spinner. It's just that the map is supposed to have a progressive difficulty (it's better for training) but this pattern put a big, unnecessary, spike of difficulty in the map where it shouldn't be. That's why from a mapping POV the slider jumps are better but from a training POV a spinner is better imo.

Honestly, I didn't find that section particularly hard for some reason, and it's coming from someone who keeps failing on "We Go Down"

- V - wrote:

Honestly, I didn't find that section particularly hard for some reason, and it's coming from someone who keeps failing on "We Go Down"

Well, i don't either. And i keep failing 75% of the time on "we go down". But think about people that have just the level to play the beginning of the map, this kind of jump are probably very disturbing for them. Hard diffs and light insanes don't have much of jump between slider with gaps of 1/4 beats so they are not used to it.Yeah, i know i should have called the diff "without the jumps some people will hate" (i will probably change it later) but still. In the end i've seen people play both kind of maps so i'm still happy with the choice i made to seperate the two diff. :p

As a timing review, I feel the highlighted maps should be adjusted slightly:

Feeling So Blue: Within margin of error
Cambodia: -5ms Offset correction
Just For You: Within margin of error
Colours Of The Rainbow: Within margin of error
Oh Baby: -3ms Offset correction
We Go Down: Within margin of error
Fuck You: Too difficult to determine

Can't seem to find any faults elsewhere, so other than those timings these are great

Thank you very much ^^
Everything fixed!

BPM on Cambodia (both versions) are slightly off.

154.875 prevents it from leaning too far off timing, as the last ~20s or so is significantly out of sync with the rest of the song, timing-wise.

BPM on Just For You is slightly off.

176.10 prevents it from going close to OOS near the end.


Edit: Found BPM issue on second map

I like it more than the first one, and I *really* liked the first one!

I loved the first one so much and this one is most definitely better~!

I actually love playing Cambodia and all the jumps in it.

So much fun to play, and thank you for making this ^.^

whats wrong with cambodia's jumps? i didnt play the one with the long diff name but i didnt hate any of the jumps.

i guess you are by far one of my favourite mappers by now, showing off your awesome, not reachable mapping skills make me really jealous and happy at the same time, man keep it up i luv you <3 :-* ♥

This is awesome! And so is the prequel! So glad my friend showed it to me.

I wish this were ranked, because I don't search for unranked maps usually so I wouldn't find this map It's so fun.

I do not know anybody who do NOT have this maps^^ They are great! I wish our BATs would rank it =(

mhm

Awesome Diffs! But the "oh baby" song... I am german and i don't even... lol

These maps are much more slider-heavy than the original mapset and I really dislike how you use sliders. I don't like these as jump maps tbh :/ They're fun maps to play with EZ though.

Soooo, apparently i didn't received any notification when anybody posted a comment on the map for the last 2 months so... Sorry for being late to reply to everybody!!!!!

Kritikally wrote:

BPM on Cambodia (both versions) are slightly off.

154.875 prevents it from leaning too far off timing, as the last ~20s or so is significantly out of sync with the rest of the song, timing-wise.

BPM on Just For You is slightly off.

176.10 prevents it from going close to OOS near the end.


Edit: Found BPM issue on second map

Thank you very much for looking the timing, i will look at it in more detail when i'll have more free time.

Samiuel wrote:

I like it more than the first one, and I *really* liked the first one!

Learning25 wrote:

I loved the first one so much and this one is most definitely better~!

I actually love playing Cambodia and all the jumps in it.

So much fun to play, and thank you for making this ^.^

Thank you very much ^^ For me, it really depends of the map, but i think i have a preference for the first one

Riince wrote:

whats wrong with cambodia's jumps? i didnt play the one with the long diff name but i didnt hate any of the jumps.

It's the ascending slider jump with a 1/4 gap. It's a little bit too tricky for just the second map of the jump training so i just created a second diff for allowing those that are not confortable with them to be able to play the whole map and not fail at this part.

PrivatHansi1 wrote:

i guess you are by far one of my favourite mappers by now, showing off your awesome, not reachable mapping skills make me really jealous and happy at the same time, man keep it up i luv you <3 :-* ♥

Thank you very much ♥ I don't think my mapping is that good but i'm glad that you like it

CommAshen wrote:

This is awesome! And so is the prequel! So glad my friend showed it to me.

I wish this were ranked, because I don't search for unranked maps usually so I wouldn't find this map It's so fun.

Ranking rules are, well, they don't really fit the purpose of the map. (Also ranking is tedious as hell!) This is a map made just for training purpose. But there are a lot of a very fun map that are unranked and i highly encourage you to look a little bit for unranked map from time to time

Tician wrote:

I do not know anybody who do NOT have this maps^^ They are great! I wish our BATs would rank it =(

Unfortunately, they will never do it because this mapset breaks SOOOOO many rules. xD

Faces3 wrote:

mhm

GG! Now you can go AR10.3 with the other diff

TheLukay wrote:

Awesome Diffs! But the "oh baby" song... I am german and i don't even... lol

Ahahah! I looked at the translation and these really where... well... very special! xD It's even weird when you hear the original song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-WP6POdTgY whose lyric has nothing to do with this!

GhostFrog wrote:

These maps are much more slider-heavy than the original mapset and I really dislike how you use sliders. I don't like these as jump maps tbh :/ They're fun maps to play with EZ though.

Why do you mean "dislike how i use sliders"? You mean how i put random blankets everywhere? But i agree that i used way more sliders, especially 1/1 which tends to screw the flow of jump maps. I don't know if it's because of the songs or how my mapping style changed between both mapsets though.... But instead of Cambodia my sliders seems fine to me. Jumps from sliders and from notes are different and since i want to makes maps which trains all kind of jumps i have to use them anyway! If you want a note-only jump map, the only one i know is https://osu.ppy.sh/b/160242.

rezoons wrote:

GhostFrog wrote:

These maps are much more slider-heavy than the original mapset and I really dislike how you use sliders. I don't like these as jump maps tbh :/ They're fun maps to play with EZ though.

Why do you mean "dislike how i use sliders"? You mean how i put random blankets everywhere? But i agree that i used way more sliders, especially 1/1 which tends to screw the flow of jump maps. I don't know if it's because of the songs or how my mapping style changed between both mapsets though.... But instead of Cambodia my sliders seems fine to me. Jumps from sliders and from notes are different and since i want to makes maps which trains all kind of jumps i have to use them anyway! If you want a note-only jump map, the only one i know is https://osu.ppy.sh/b/160242.

Some combination of when you used sliders and the SV you chose feels really bad to me. I think the sliders feel slower to me than the map/song warrant. It just ruins the feel of the maps to me. Sorry :< I do enjoy them very much with EZ mod though.

GhostFrog wrote:

Some combination of when you used sliders and the SV you chose feels really bad to me. I think the sliders feel slower to me than the map/song warrant. It just ruins the feel of the maps to me. Sorry :< I do enjoy them very much with EZ mod though.

No problem, i understand what you mean. Personally it doesn't bother me for 1/2 beat long sliders which are those that i use the most that's why i used them a lot. Anyway, thank you for your feedback!

I love your jump training maps! What would be of me without em! I know you are probably not going to do, but, what about a #3 edition? You've helped lots of people with jumps (especially mouse players). You deserve the recognition. Best jump mapper ever :}

Sworday wrote:

I love your jump training maps! What would be of me without em! I know you are probably not going to do, but, what about a #3 edition? You've helped lots of people with jumps (especially mouse players). You deserve the recognition. Best jump mapper ever :}

Thank you very much ^^ I'm happy to see that my maps helped you and others improve with jumps! But sorry i'll probably won't do a 3rd edition. The reasons are because:
1) I don't have much music left to make jumps maps. I spent several hours finding some good nightcores to make jump out of it. In the case of Cambodia i even had to make the nightcore myself so yeah... I really ran out of songs!
2) There isn't any more jump map needed for the training. When i ended the first jump training i was a little bit disappointed because the difficulty gap between maps wasn't really good and that's one of the reason why i mad a 2nd jump training! Now with the 12(or 13 with the bonus) diffs there are you can definitely find a map matching your level.
3) I really ran out of idea. I used most of the jumps pattern i know quite a lot of time and maps started to get repetitive so it's better to stop right here!

Anyway, i will still continue making maps with jumps as well as mapping nightcore song but it won't be in a jump training. Just some random maps i will make from time to time.

rezoons wrote:

Sworday wrote:

I love your jump training maps! What would be of me without em! I know you are probably not going to do, but, what about a #3 edition? You've helped lots of people with jumps (especially mouse players). You deserve the recognition. Best jump mapper ever :}

Thank you very much ^^ I'm happy to see that my maps helped you and others improve with jumps! But sorry i'll probably won't do a 3rd edition. The reasons are because:
1) I don't have much music left to make jumps maps. I spent several hours finding some good nightcores to make jump out of it. In the case of Cambodia i even had to make the nightcore myself so yeah... I really ran out of songs!
2) There isn't any more jump map needed for the training. When i ended the first jump training i was a little bit disappointed because the difficulty gap between maps wasn't really good and that's one of the reason why i mad a 2nd jump training! Now with the 12(or 13 with the bonus) diffs there are you can definitely find a map matching your level.
3) I really ran out of idea. I used most of the jumps pattern i know quite a lot of time and maps started to get repetitive so it's better to stop right here!

Anyway, i will still continue making maps with jumps as well as mapping nightcore song but it won't be in a jump training. Just some random maps i will make from time to time.

I know you ran out of ideas, and you probably already used that 'idea', but, what I mean is, if you were gonna map another jumping map, you could do some airman's jump (obviously not the 1000km ones, but these (16 seconds airman map).. I really don't know how to explain them so I just sent you the second they are in the song. I really like them and I think they should be definitely used. About songs, I know you need nightcore songs but this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7ZsBPK ... 6gOs7HcyNg - dubstep), rocks, and you could do another diff with this song, idk.
All I have to say is thank you for these maps :} They were and will always be really helpful. Please let me know if you are going to use this song for any map XD

Sworday wrote:

I know you ran out of ideas, and you probably already used that 'idea', but, what I mean is, if you were gonna map another jumping map, you could do some airman's jump (obviously not the 1000km ones, but these (16 seconds airman map).. I really don't know how to explain them so I just sent you the second they are in the song. I really like them and I think they should be definitely used. About songs, I know you need nightcore songs but this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7ZsBPK ... 6gOs7HcyNg - dubstep), rocks, and you could do another diff with this song, idk.
All I have to say is thank you for these maps :} They were and will always be really helpful. Please let me know if you are going to use this song for any map XD

These jump are called "circular back and forth jumps". It's true that i didn't used them that much but it's just one pattern. It's not enought to make a map out of it! Also if i chose nightcores it's because i like them, they have a good range of BPM and have a rythm that fits really well jump maps! Actually i could make a jump map out of any song that meets these criteria but like i said i already considered that what i did was enough and i don't have enough idea to make yet another 6 diff jump training.
(And sorry, even if the song is cool i will probably not map it)

We Go Down is some god damn quality mapping.

Forgd wrote:

We Go Down is some god damn quality mapping.

Thank you very much

I love your jump training maps!!
Won't they be ranked?

wraith122 wrote:

I love your jump training maps!!
Won't they be ranked?

Thank you very much ^^ And it won't get ranked because it breaks a lot of random arbitrary rules.

thanks you for the amazing beatmaps/songs, keep up the good work man. <3

the champion wrote:

thanks you for the amazing beatmaps/songs, keep up the good work man. <3

Thank you very much

Amazing maps, make them rankeds please : )

Why are these maps not ranked? They're so good!

Perfect map.
Ranked, please.

Many months later and I'm still playing this map for fun. It's a shame this cannot be ranked.

Within 30 seconds of starting, I hear "controls me -trolls me -trolls me" but I heard Trolls me, Trolls me, Trolls me. Otherwise great song!

Best jump map I've ever playing. Like song "we go down" And PLEASE GOD SET THAT RANKED!

Love this map, jump jump jump =))

Just an awsome training map, good job man! <3

My first 4-star!
Also, ranked, please?

: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/357261 is down? Or did it get deleted? My osu! files were deleted(somehow) and I wonder if anyone could provide me with some assistance.