Lookin' better.

[Normal]
Since you bumped AR up one, bump OD up another accordingly.
01:21:051 (1) - Still too soon after a spinner. The most natural spot to end would be at 01:19:851 - (would also fit better for the Easy compared to where it's currently ending so you can start mapping again when the band comes back in)

[Hard]
00:13:851 (1,1,1) - These are all part of the same musical phrase. I don't see how they are "pairing." The way you're mapping each combo at about a measure each, it'd make more sense to remove the new combo at 00:13:251 (1) - and at 00:14:301 (1) - (and 00:15:201 (1) - if you're being really anal about it)
00:36:651 (4,5) - Looks good, thanks

[RLC]
Still needs that bump up in OD.

[Insane]
00:16:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ALL of these are back and forth jumps. Suddenly breaking that at 00:20:901 (7,1) - broke your flow.
01:16:251 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4) - I'd rather you made it similar to this pattern 00:42:651 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - considering the intensity is much more obvious in this section. Maybe starting slow and building up back to normal speed. Keeping it all at not-moving speed doesn't make sense musically and the tiny distance snap increments currently don't really represent it well.
01:21:201 (2) - I'm not feeling this "pressure" you're speaking of. Especially after the big rise from before - all of the power is in the first two notes with わた. After that, there's nothing. A slider doesn't fit here in the first place - two circles would represent this best. But having it as a faster than the normal established speed AND as a slider just doesn't fit at all.
01:22:101 (1) - Though it does fit with your previous explanations, compared with the slider before it, it just plays poorly. I think adjusting this to the highest point of however you increased the previous pattern (if you do) would work well.
01:24:201 (1) - And this is the same as the other fast slider. It works better as a circle, not a slider for the same reasons stated above.

[Extra]
00:14:001 (2,2) - The ends should be snapped on the white tick. There's nothing on the blue ticks. There's a lot like this that don't really fit the song.
00:42:801 (2,1) - I still think having more of a progressive increase would work much better since this works the same as what you did in the Insane at the same point
01:05:301 (6) - The blue tick is unsnapped as there's nothing in the music there. Actually, Instead of moving it down like I originally suggested, from your explanation I think having the motion work when you ctrl + g it fits the flow from before then. You'll have that opposite of the anticipated flow action continued from the circle honeycombish patterns.
And if you make adjustments to the weird SV changes in the Insane, apply them here too.

I'll reply when I get a chance. Just posting this here for the history. I'm still not happy with the ridiculous speed changes at the end of Insane and Extra. I'll probably call for a compromise.

2014-08-19 18:23 Jenny: I put an update for the lower diffs; shortened the spin in Normal, using decimal AR/OD for RLC's diff now because it doesn't feel quite "Insane"-y enough for AR8OD7 to me
2014-08-19 18:23 Jenny: also OD7.5 for Insane
2014-08-19 18:24 Jenny: eh, AR7.5 for RLC's hard* still OD7
2014-08-19 18:25 Jenny: *as an off-the-side update ping
2014-08-19 18:55 Garven: Alright
2014-08-19 18:56 Garven: So is it ready for rechecking? Or that just a quick update thus-far?
2014-08-19 18:56 Jenny: I kinda want to stick to the highdiff stuff still
2014-08-19 18:57 Garven: Meh. I still don't feel it at all. Do you at least get where I'm coming from?
2014-08-19 18:57 Jenny: 00:20:901 (7,1) - on Insane, because this is a collabed diff, this is a section change between the vocalists, which is why the way of mapping is also changing here
2014-08-19 18:57 Garven: Well, I'm not set up for modding atm so I'll check those when I can
2014-08-19 18:57 Jenny: 01:16:251 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4) - I can see what you mean about this one when comparing it to the previous (00:42:651 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ) but..
2014-08-19 18:58 Jenny: at this point, it's more like.. not an actual huge change in pressure each time, it's not really speedy
2014-08-19 18:58 Jenny: it's more like it gets more focussed and pinned on the vocals, I would say?
2014-08-19 18:59 Jenny: which is what I find the slider-to-circle angles I have there do quite well because you have this active snap and switch of the flowlines there
2014-08-19 18:59 Jenny: like every combo has it's own curve and you snap and switch between them on the strongly put verses
2014-08-19 18:59 Jenny: you can check back on this whenever, doesn't really have to be now, I'll just use the chance to write it down
2014-08-19 19:01 Jenny: 01:22:101 (1) - this one, I could see work if I ctrl-G'd it because you'd have the more jumpy initiation since, well, the vocal it starts on is kind of.. sticking out? then again, that also makes this part a fair bit harder yet again and would make the next transition kinda awkward
2014-08-19 19:02 Jenny: and I kinda want the more holdy aspect there, since it also forces more attention to the change in pace which goes with the vocal
2014-08-19 19:03 Jenny: 01:24:201 (1) - the ending slider, from a sheer "a slider should end on a sound" point, doesn't make much sense, yes - but well, I don't use sliders as "one click two hitsounds" objects most of the time (if anything, I'd utilize the latter part on more jabby transitions with them ending 1/4 before the other object, like in Rejection)
2014-08-19 19:05 Jenny: so here it's functioning as an accelerated guided playing path (plus, holding the key down during the sliderpath contributes to the whole ending snap for me- like, you see the next object, you hear the vocals, you know there's a last finishing beat incoming and you hold the one you are currently at for the ending snap)
2014-08-19 19:06 Jenny: 00:14:001 (2,2) - @Rejection: pretty much what I just elaborated on, it's for the jabby-snapping transitions here, and I did lower the volume of the slider's ends (might actually take it down by another 10-15% or so)
2014-08-19 19:07 Jenny: though in this case, the guitar is rather lasting aswell, so I wanted to keep the previous string's momentum for as long as possible each time, because, well, that gives the snappy tone and play to it that I find very much dominant in the song

Cleaned up a few minor things along with the speed changes at the end of Insane and Extra, AR slightly tweaked in RLC's Hard.

I dunno what to follow up with Irrerererere's bubble image, so here's... something I guess.

Remove (TV Size) from the title!

@Normal:
01:08:901 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Shouldn't this be better being al 1/1 sliders? They'd compliment the vocals better.

Might come back later with some more suggestions if no one else will be checking this.

shush, Dake
I'm going to take this. Because I'm being forced to. hi Irre









Mod on Rejection will be done tomorrow. It's 3 am and meeh.

[Rejection]

00:32:451 (1,2) - This isn't too hard in itself but I dislike that you expect the player to follow 1/3 rhythm after 1 slider, I'd remove the note and make this a reverse slider.
00:33:051 (1,2) - Increase spacing to make this a clear 1/2 jump.
00:35:451 (1,2) - This needs to be a jump of some sorts. It's weird to read as it is.
00:36:951 (7,8) - Space more please. At the moment this section just seems so wishy-washy to follow. I can't understand the beat properly it's really weird.
00:38:151 (3,4) - ^
00:38:751 (6,7) - ^
00:39:351 (9,10) - ^
00:41:151 (5,6) - ^
00:44:751 (4,5) - Increase spacing here, currently reads like a spaced stream thanks to the previous 1/4 jumps imo. Alternatively reduce the spacing on 00:44:451 (1,2,3,4)
01:14:901 (3) - Move this note further upwards, it's very awkward right now.
01:08:901 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - If you were feeling generous then move every repeat left more (as in move this as pattern 01:10:101 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) left and this even further 01:11:301 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) etc... )
01:24:201 (1) - Aim this slider further down (more towards 01:24:501 (1) ). At the moment it's very easy to 100 it because it's so fast and in an inconvenient direction.

Few little changes about Rejection (00:35:451 -, 00:44:751 -), mostly everything changed from Zare's stuff unless stated otherwise

Easy: Anything but 00:57:351 - + 01:18:501 -
Hard: 00:24:651 - no
00:55:401 - not a concern with new default
RLC: 00:24:951 (2) - same as 00.24:651 - @Hard
Insane: 00:45:801 (4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1969031

Also, removed (TV Size) from title after talking back to KSHR:

Let's take a last look at Rejection then, don't kd this post as it's part of the previous mod

1. AR+ 0.5; it's currently really hard to read, especially with circle-jump sections liek the second kiai part, higher AR would ease this a bit.
2. The drain is beyond hope, but we've talked about this a lot already. It should be fine with the Insane diff as alternative map to play when you can't pass this.
3. 00:18:051 (9,10) - consider using circles here because of the equalish vocal-intensity on the ticks, similar to 00:20:451 (7,8,9,10) -
4. 00:33:201 (2,2) - I'd agree with jesse on rasing the spacing on these to accentuate the snap.
5. 00:35:038 (1) - this one is a pain, neither the spacing nor the previous slider or w/e implies this being 1/3, and I'm constantly 100'ing it. Use sliders here:
   
6. 00:44:601 (2) - jump feels a bit overdone, especially since there's nothing here that would imply that big of a spacing increase. reduce the spacing.
7. 00:48:651 (1) - reduce the spacing to 1.20 as with the previous streamjumps
8. 00:51:801 (2) - you might want to reconsider whether this spacing really makes sense in regards to the song
9. 01:23:601 (2,3,4,5) - Make the spacing here consistent or make it so that it makes sense in some way, especially that antijump on 5 feels weird

Once this and RLC's mod is answered, AND once I have confirmation about the weird snaps, this can be ranked.

17:03 Jenny: 00:18:051 (9,10) - sliders because want to do exactly that: less emphasis on vocals so the next combo has more of an impact with the sliderangles and backleading jumps
17:03 Jenny: 00:21:051 (1) - different vocalist and tonage, is more sliderbuilt
17:09 Jenny: 00:34:751 (1,2,1,2) - errr.. no. using any more slider than this (or anything else, for that matter) will only fuck up the soundpatterning and nothing else. it's correctly snapped and the approachrate should give you enough room and time to get this
17:10 Jenny: 00:44:451 (1,2,3,4) - harsh drumfinish to the section
17:11 Jenny: 00:48:651 (1) - not part of the streampattern anymore but a new individual one; makes no sense to space it exactly like something that's entirely different in nature and song
17:12 Jenny: 00:51:651 (1,2) - again, harsh sectionfinishing drums, fairly reasoned in my book - yes, hard, very hard, but that's exactly what goes well with the minibreak before the kiai kicks off

Poking RLC when I next get to see him online.

seems like jenny changed the nc's already, and i changed the other things
http://puu.sh/b96cx/ad528ea1a9.zip

Please don't utilize an apostrophe for a word's plural form, it's posession >:

updated

Alright then.

Congrats!

Gratz o3o

uguu Zare so mean :u

Congratulations \o/

finally, where it should be. congratulations!

Congratulations~

yay jen gj

crap holy my god

ye ranks my congrats omg

k

!!

i have never felt so unconfident of my aim until now...

I remember this <3 Gratz!

oh god!
this get ranked!
graz!!!

Wait, shouldn't the Japanese name for Suzuki Konomi be 鈴木このみ instead of 鈴木木乃美?

http://puu.sh/badMC/78e35195ac.png This suggests the former is more correct.

This is from http://www.animax.co.jp/special/anigp/ and I tried to get a non-Wikipedia confirmation so maybe this works as evidence?

In addition, other ranked maps such as http://osu.ppy.sh/b/391521 and http://osu.ppy.sh/s/49621 have 鈴木このみ.

Disqualifying to fix the artist.

And we're back.

fixed

I can't read kanji :V

Sorry about this, it had to be done. Re-congrats anyways!

鈴木 = Kanji, このみ = Hiragana, just saying :v

Was it necessary to wipe all those scores like Snowwhite's full combo?

Will people ever read that

Wow
It has been a decade since this map was unranked.
Recongrats jenny

Nwolf wrote:

Will people ever read that

Scores have been saved before with reranks. Wiping is pretty questionable when you're just changing something like artist unless replays rely on that data.

JappyBabes wrote:

Nwolf wrote:

Will people ever read that

Scores have been saved before with reranks. Wiping is pretty questionable when you're just changing something like artist unless replays rely on that data.

Exactly my point. Changing the artist doesn't affect the actual beatmap, so they didn't have to wipe scores.

BATs do not save record of replays in qualfied maps so disqualfied=reset all replays.

The system has evolved over the years, and now disqualifying a map clears everything automatically. There is no halfway anymore. Go get your scores again when the map hits ranked lest ye precious scores be at risk of another purge. Arr.

Only one thing... Dainesl mentioned that name issue 5 days ago... we could have avoid this...
(I don't care about the scores, also because I didn't had any high scores anyway, but talking in general... -.-)

I would've asked a QAT about this but I thought that this would have been resolved sooner ;_;

really sorry about the highscores but I just had to mention the artist ;_;

Dainesl wrote:

I would've asked a QAT about this but I thought that this would have been resolved sooner ;_;

really sorry about the highscores but I just had to mention the artist ;_;

it's not your fault, you did the right thing

RIP snowwhite and everyone else who managed to FC Rejection or get a top performance off this mapset >.<

at least I didn't =/