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Keyboard switch types mx blue vs mx red

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Pizzicato

buny wrote:

blues are terrible for osu
that's just your opinion.
Icyteru
rubber dome 4 lyf.

in all seriousness, reds are just lighter versions of blacks, and blacks are recognised for being the easiest to reliably stream with, so red should be good for osu! blues are good for typing
RaneFire

wait99 wrote:

The clicking of blues pisses me off.
I got some noise isolating headphones and now the absence of any clicking sound whatsoever is pissing me off. I literally hear nothing from my blackwidow anymore :( NOTHING!
buny

Pizzicato wrote:

buny wrote:

blues are terrible for osu
that's just your opinion.
thanks for telling me that in a thread where the OP literally asks for an opinion, you're so edgy.
Pizzicato
you talk like it's a fact. at least say so.
Wishy
People will argue about what switches are the best and you can actually read the facts, opinions are worthless when you can check each switch specific data. You may like something bad more than something good, that doesn't make it good.
Cokezi-
I hate blue switches so much.. So glad I bought a k70 with red switches..
Senryakku
Red user, happy with it, anyways it all comes down to the player, all you need to do is feel comfortable with your keyboard. ( even though mech > rubber )
Cokezi-
cookiezi use red cookiezi best plyr in wolrd us red switch red best omg
Icyteru

Cokezi- wrote:

cookiezi use red cookiezi best plyr in wolrd us red switch red best omg
Is best avatar of osu!

OT: snowwhite red too gg red > all
Topic Starter
Pitis
I go to the shop and try both.

And i will Reply what switches are better for me
encryptik

Pitis wrote:

I go to the shop and try both.

And i will Reply what switches are better for me
Go for the ones you prefer, not the ones people try to convince you are better.
Although you'll probably succumb to the bandwagon effect after reading this thread. :cry:
AmaiHachimitsu
putting aside preferences, MX Red are technically better for osu but need some pro player who can control them perfectly.

I'd say, if there was a limit of 350bpm streams for human fingers playing MX Blue, for MX Reds it would be 380bpm
Topic Starter
Pitis
I chose mx red, its better for me, thx all
boat
Linear switches are better in theory, speed and accuracy wise especially if you play with hitsounds on, but they wont make you a better player.

I'd pick switches based on typing comfort anyways, i.e browns or blacks if you insist on linear ones.
NTRSOUND
rubberdooms
Full Tablet

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

putting aside preferences, MX Red are technically better for osu but need some pro player who can control them perfectly.

I'd say, if there was a limit of 350bpm streams for human fingers playing MX Blue, for MX Reds it would be 380bpm
That difference is still too huge. I would say that (in the hypothetical case) a person who can can reach 220bpm with MX Blue could reach about 228bpm with MX Red (considering the amount of energy needed to do the movement, and taking into consideration that fingers weight about 18grams). For people who stream with the whole hand (for example vibrating the wrist) instead of fingers the difference would be much less.
Wishy
It's not that much about speed but about endurance, which in the end COULD mean more speed, your fingers are not gonna move faster because of your lighter keys. That was my experience at least, I stream faster on rubber-dome keyboards than on mechanics, my acc and endurance are worse tho.
jesse1412

Wishy wrote:

Blues are very good.

Reds are the best.

Period. This is not about personal preference but about facts, reds are the lightest switches around, so they are objectively the best. You may "prefer" blues because of the click thing, but that does not make them better. If you could get used to the no-click thing of red switches then they would simply outrank blues.
Lighter switches means less reaction force when you press meaning you have to put effort into 2 separete motions, a push down and afterwards a pull up (if you want to go fast). With blacks you only require a (larger) downwards force making streaming techniques easier to learn and allowing people to bulk build stamina in one direction.

Blacks are better, I have reds and blacks and I guess most of the people in this thread only have 1 or the other. Stop the red bandwagon you commies.

Reds also don't come up fast enough for me to stream at high bpm (240+ causes problems).

EDIT:

You're objectively wrong because it's subjective.

EDIT 2:

I briefly tested blues too and they felt the exact same as reds to me except there was a click when I pressed regardless of how hard I pressed, either way I fully bottomed out and it felt the exact same.
AmaiHachimitsu
Lighter switches means less reaction force when you press meaning you have to put effort into 2 separete motions, a push down and afterwards a pull up (if you want to go fast
that's why I said it needs some very good technique and skill to show reds' full potential.

But still I don't get the superiority of Blacks. Of course it's heavier so it's easier to keep the speed, but this is the case with rubber domes too making the mechanical feel the only difference.

I agree with you when it comes to stamina practice, but haven't most of us practiced over years on a cheap office rubber kb? isn't it enough so we can just use our trained skill show its potential with light switches?

I briefly tested blues too and they felt the exact same as reds to me except there was a click when I pressed regardless of how hard I pressed, either way I fully bottomed out and it felt the exact same.
I switched straight from Blues to Reds and I experienced a huge difference.
Dreamgate
i played with both, red and blues, and for me reds are better because you dont have to press them down completely, you can just tap them, that makes streaming easier
GoldenWolf

[timefrozen] wrote:

i played with both, red and blues, and for me reds are better because you dont have to press them down completely, you can just tap them, that makes streaming easier
you do know you don't have to fully bottom out with blues either right?
Dreamgate

GoldenWolf wrote:

[timefrozen] wrote:

i played with both, red and blues, and for me reds are better because you dont have to press them down completely, you can just tap them, that makes streaming easier
you do know you don't have to fully bottom out with blues either right?
you dont have to yea, but blues need 50g to press.
GoldenWolf

[timefrozen] wrote:

you dont have to yea, but blues need 50g to press.
How is that related to what you first said though?
TheBurningFox
I really prefer Brown switch
But if i have to chose
i Chose red
i really don't like Blue
NixXSkate
I really prefer Brown switch
But if i have to chose
i Chose blue
i really don't like Red
YukinoDesuDesu
I really prefer rubber domes
But if i have to chose
i Chose rubber domes
i really don't like rubber domes
haxsu
I own every single keyboard switches except for blacks and I have used each for them for years. Out of all of them, I prefer browns the most. It is both great for typing and gaming and they are the easiest to get used to in my opinion.

On Topic: However, If I had to choose one, I would say MX Blue wins because it is good for typing and it will get you really far in osu! MX Reds are too light for typing in my opinion and I believe that it will only be beneficial to players who has used a MX mech keyboard previously for a long period of time and are used to the feel of them.

Additional Thoughts: I honestly think that people should not buy a MX Red switch as their first MX switch and to choose from either MX Blue or MX Brown but this is just my opinion and based on my experience.

PS: I would really like to give Blacks a try one of these days :3
infernolu

RaneFire wrote:

wait99 wrote:

The clicking of blues pisses me off.
I got some noise isolating headphones and now the absence of any clicking sound whatsoever is pissing me off. I literally hear nothing from my blackwidow anymore :( NOTHING!
i use the blackwidow and i too have the same problem
E m i
It's a blessing. Listen to the hitsounds.
Yuudachi-kun

[ Momiji ] wrote:

It's a blessing. Listen to the hitsounds.
Heresy to blues everywhere.
f i z i k
I really prefer Blue switch
But if i have to chose
i Chose brown
i really don't like Red
Xayne
I literally just made the switch to reds after playing on blues for 4 months. The switch allowed me to stream 30 bpm faster (confirmed by a streaming speed test). My streaming got a lot more accurate and consistent switching from blue to red. If I had to type a paper, I'd use my keyboard with blues, but I would choose reds over blues for Osu! in a heartbeat.
Xayne

GoldenWolf wrote:

[timefrozen] wrote:

i played with both, red and blues, and for me reds are better because you dont have to press them down completely, you can just tap them, that makes streaming easier
you do know you don't have to fully bottom out with blues either right?
You don't have to fully bottom out any switch, but if you think it's just as easy to tap a blue as it is a red, you're out of your mind.
FrzR
I have experiences with both recently and they're both good.

I got the red switches since it feels lighter to push but rip typos. I didn't get the blues because of the noise it makes at least. lol
Yuudachi-kun
I just don't understand people who don't like the noises blues make. They're orgasmic.
Ishkiz

Kheldragar wrote:

I just don't understand people who don't like the noises blues make. They're orgasmic.
Sure, for some light typing. But I try not to annoy everybody in the entire tri-county area during a furious osu session, which is hard to do with blues. I'm a little worried about single-handedly causing earthquakes here and there due to the sheer magnitude of the soundwaves. It's even been said that all you can hear from the International Space Station is a faint, slightly rhythmic tapping - presumably from me playing osu in my bedroom.

Don't get me wrong though, I think they're great. It's just that I'm sure everyone else in the house/neighborhood/general vicinity would disagree
Xayne

Kheldragar wrote:

I just don't understand people who don't like the noises blues make. They're orgasmic.
I absolutely LOVE my blues, just not for Osu!. The day I got my keyboard with reds, I tested stream speed and streamed 30 BPM faster than the fastest I ever could reach on blues. There's a difference. But typing is nowhere near as fun. They each have their pros and cons. If I were just putting together a computer to function normally, I'd choose blues easily. But reds are better for osu.
DahplA
Blues aren't even as loud as people make it to be. Unless you have some finger dysfunction in which you have to slam the key, it's not loud.
Xayne

DahplA wrote:

Blues aren't even as loud as people make it to be. Unless you have some finger dysfunction in which you have to slam the key, it's not loud.
Eh, they're pretty loud in comparison to other switches. If you go from anything but greens to blues, it's gonna be pretty loud in comparison to what you would be used to.
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