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Chocorock
Signed up for silver league :D
mcmammoth
Just signed up for silver =)
cheezstik
Just signed up for gold as a rank 18k, and noticed the first guy it says im versing, here is his profile: https://osu.ppy.sh/u/rey5tv

Take a look at his profile, then look at mine, there is clearly a massive difference, I'm not even close to his level of skill, there is at least a month or two worth of skill separating us. He has a 171 and a 150pp song, and a total of 25 100+pp songs, while I have 6, low 100pp songs as my highest. 1990pp total vs 2433pp total won't make a very close match, I think you should definitely rework the league rank requirements. Here is a suggestion of what I think would be balanced and fair:

40,000 - 79,999
25,000 - 39,999
15,000 - 24,999
10,000 - 14,999

Those are the ranks that I think truly reflect big skill differences.

But just asking for this round, will there be a losers bracket? Or will I just be playing 1 round? >_>
Topic Starter
Speed of Snail

cheezstik wrote:

Just signed up for gold as a rank 18k, and noticed the first guy it says im versing, here is his profile: https://osu.ppy.sh/u/rey5tv

Take a look at his profile, then look at mine, there is clearly a massive difference, I'm not even close to his level of skill, there is at least a month or two worth of skill separating us. He has a 171 and a 150pp song, and a total of 25 100+pp songs, while I have 6, low 100pp songs as my highest. 1990pp total vs 2433pp total won't make a very close match, I think you should definitely rework the league rank requirements. Here is a suggestion of what I think would be balanced and fair:

40,000 - 79,999
25,000 - 39,999
15,000 - 24,999
10,000 - 14,999

Those are the ranks that I think truly reflect big skill differences.

But just asking for this round, will there be a losers bracket? Or will I just be playing 1 round? >_>
I understand entirely what you say and i agree with you that the skill difference from one end of a league to the other can be quite large, I do want to change this but I just don't have the number of players required to divide into so many category's and still hope to run tournaments. I have about 100 players registered across ALL LEAGUES. to divide to the extent you're suggesting and still run regular tournaments among every division I would need close to 500 and once it's that big frankly I just cant run it on my own. so for now I'm going to run it as is and see how it goes, If it's successful I'll definitely be looking at expanding to the scale you were talking about however for now it's just not an option :/
cheezstik

TheOnlyLeon wrote:

cheezstik wrote:

Just signed up for gold as a rank 18k, and noticed the first guy it says im versing, here is his profile: https://osu.ppy.sh/u/rey5tv

Take a look at his profile, then look at mine, there is clearly a massive difference, I'm not even close to his level of skill, there is at least a month or two worth of skill separating us. He has a 171 and a 150pp song, and a total of 25 100+pp songs, while I have 6, low 100pp songs as my highest. 1990pp total vs 2433pp total won't make a very close match, I think you should definitely rework the league rank requirements. Here is a suggestion of what I think would be balanced and fair:

40,000 - 79,999
25,000 - 39,999
15,000 - 24,999
10,000 - 14,999

Those are the ranks that I think truly reflect big skill differences.

But just asking for this round, will there be a losers bracket? Or will I just be playing 1 round? >_>
I understand entirely what you say and i agree with you that the skill difference from one end of a league to the other can be quite large, I do want to change this but I just don't have the number of players required to divide into so many category's and still hope to run tournaments. I have about 100 players registered across ALL LEAGUES. to divide to the extent you're suggesting and still run regular tournaments among every division I would need close to 500 and once it's that big frankly I just cant run it on my own. so for now I'm going to run it as is and see how it goes, If it's successful I'll definitely be looking at expanding to the scale you were talking about however for now it's just not an option :/
Yeah I guess I didn't really think about the number of players. But anyway in this case we're not even at opposite ends, we are both at the higher half of gold, its just that the concentration of people at the 10k-20k rank means that even a mere 5,000 ranks can mean such a gigantic skill difference. Maybe at the least make masters league from 5,000 - 15,000 instead, that will actually make a league bigger while keeping gold healthily sized, so the players would still be evenly distributed and now fairly distributed as well.

Also, back to my other question, will there be a losers bracket that eliminated people play in?
FlamingRok

cheezstik wrote:

Just signed up for gold as a rank 18k, and noticed the first guy it says im versing, here is his profile: https://osu.ppy.sh/u/rey5tv
The skill difference between you and him is still much closer than between mine and Payaya. I do believe that there does need to be some rebalancing, but of course, I will choose to respect the option that Leon makes.

Also, I really hope there's a loser's bracket, because I'm not going to last past round 1 at this rate.
1319
I just signed up for gold as 21k. Yaaay.
Assuming that there's still room and such.
EDIT:
Scratch 21k, 19k is where it's fucking at man.
Shabui
Signed up for gold.
Topic Starter
Speed of Snail
I AM IMPLEMENTING A NEW RULE TO KEEP MATCHES GOING!!!!

This will be posted here and back on the main post, many matches are simply not moving because players are not having refs and players aren't showing up. to remedy this I'm implementing a self moderation rule. Simply create a lobby with both players and take screenshots of the scores after each map. simply send them my way before the round deadline and Ill control the tournament on challonge to show you who you should be going up against next, official refs will be used only in a finals and round of 3 situation.
Topic Starter
Speed of Snail
[/quote]

Yeah I guess I didn't really think about the number of players. But anyway in this case we're not even at opposite ends, we are both at the higher half of gold, its just that the concentration of people at the 10k-20k rank means that even a mere 5,000 ranks can mean such a gigantic skill difference. Maybe at the least make masters league from 5,000 - 15,000 instead, that will actually make a league bigger while keeping gold healthily sized, so the players would still be evenly distributed and now fairly distributed as well.

Also, back to my other question, will there be a losers bracket that eliminated people play in?[/quote]

In the mean time there is not a losers bracket but the person you are talking about you probably wont be against as right before a tournament goes live i shuffle the seeding by hand.
Topic Starter
Speed of Snail
Also Gold and Masters leagues will be starting, map pools will be released to first season participants tomorrow.
1319

TheOnlyLeon wrote:

Also Gold and Masters leagues will be starting, map pools will be released to first season participants tomorrow.
Tomorrow, school starts for me, so I may not be on as much for this week.

Any matchups I get during this week should be put at about 6:00 PM EST.
GG BenQ MoaB
There are 19 players in Master League and 20 players in Silver. Why you aren't running Silver league too?
cheezstik
Can we get exact times and timezones pls? Wouldn't wanna miss my match, and I just remembered im on the other half of the world from most participants. Me and my first round opponent were on at the same time though yesterday and were chatting, so I know it's not too much difference, just depends on the ref I guess.
Topic Starter
Speed of Snail
You schedule exact times with your opponent and simply send in results, and yes I will run silver soon just need to clear out false players :)
Makan1
I am incapable of playing until saturday because of school, sooooo yeah.
I signed up for gold like over a week ago, kk
Winter-Fox_old
Just to confirm I am still interested in the Silver league.
1319
Can I please get a different opponent than smsh? Not to diss him or anything, I just think we should all have someone of equal skill level.
EliteFourLance
Gold League: #30,000 - #10,000
You signed up in this league, knowing you would be matched against a player in this range group. If you didnt want to play against someone better/worse, you shouldn't have signed up. Not sure why you are complaining.
Topic Starter
Speed of Snail
OK GM League is barely moving as i haven't gotten results from more than 3 match ups. I'm making the deadline for this next Saturday if your match isn't finished and sent into me by then you will forfeit, I've made plenty of warning but I'm not getting any motion, I'm sorry if this causes any inconvenience.
cheezstik
Me and my opponent have scheduled a time, what are the maps we play? Or do we decide or what?
MostDakka
I suggest making group stage for Gold, cause there are so many people
If its not too late ofc.
dinopwn
MENDES is no longer avalible for download. I request a map change.
Subbie
So this tournament started already or what? Do i still have chance to play in?
Topic Starter
Speed of Snail

Subbie wrote:

So this tournament started already or what? Do i still have chance to play in?
You can join whenever you want I always update signup links to active pages that aren't currently ongoing
Azqx

TheOnlyLeon wrote:

Subbie wrote:

So this tournament started already or what? Do i still have chance to play in?
You can join whenever you want I always update signup links to active pages that aren't currently ongoing
what can i do if my opponent does not show up or is not reacting to my messages.
die9_8
whats happens if halfway through a season you move from one division to the other? like fro silver to gold ect.
1319

die9_8 wrote:

whats happens if halfway through a season you move from one division to the other? like fro silver to gold ect.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
i want to know this too
Core
Where's the map pool? O.O
Raniemi
The download for MENDES is currently disabled
FlamingRok
You can download that beatmap from here.
Ju-kun143
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Topic Starter
Speed of Snail

die9_8 wrote:

whats happens if halfway through a season you move from one division to the other? like fro silver to gold ect.
You will continue to play through that league then next season correct your position.
Topic Starter
Speed of Snail

Ju-kun143 wrote:

Don't know who "Sn3g" is, can't find his name in osu
Good Question I don not have a message from anyone saying that they registered under the name sn3g instead of their osu user. I'll ask that whoever this is contact you via PM ASAP.
Topic Starter
Speed of Snail
Ok thread will get busy tomorrow, Silver and Gold league will both go live tomorrow. Keep an eye on the forums to stay updated.
Nezzar
lol did I come late?
Maji
Why is the map pool so small? If these are bo5 games, players are forced to play songs with mods even if they don't want to. Also, there's no freemod songs.
Chocorock

Bok Choi wrote:

Why is the map pool so small? If these are bo5 games, players are forced to play songs with mods even if they don't want to. Also, there's no freemod songs.
I'm pretty sure he wanted us to play with mods for some matches i guess. However, I do agree with you on having some free-mod songs
die9_8
wait if silver starts tomorrow, why havent i gotten a mappool????
Topic Starter
Speed of Snail

die9_8 wrote:

wait if silver starts tomorrow, why havent i gotten a mappool????
as in goes live, you schedule your matches whenever when it starts the maps come out
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