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Zero__wind
osu! Alumni
3,314 posts
Joined August 2012
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:

师傅我一定要把这张图rank给你看

insane
00:43:542 - 建议把这一段的hitnormal换成那个稍带磁性的声音
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/145976 就是这图的soft-hitnormal12 随手搜的.. 应该是挺常用的东西 19.0kb的 再考虑一下
02:00:782 - 这里也是
01:11:005 (1) - 把间距弄平衡
01:59:314 (3) - 把间距拉大两倍
02:01:079 (2) - 不好看 建议重拉
02:13:542 (5) - 用0.8间距吧 可以有
03:16:300 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 不好看 建议重摆 不要嘛OAQ 人家好不容易摆了个A嘛

hard
同换音效
01:24:572 (7) - remove clap 当时确实有意加的 不过想了下儿 去掉也不错
01:38:579 (1,2,3) - 不好看 建议右移 咦 感觉还可以的诶……
02:05:491 (5) - 做成头尾在同一y坐标的 好的
03:16:300 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 我觉得这个嘛.. 不太好.. 四暗刻

normal
打不动 不mod了 orz
thx for your mod
ZZHBOY
1,649 posts
Joined April 2012
ZZHBOY
好
[General]
还是建议剪mp3你做图给别人玩然后别人下了一段老长的mp3却只有80%做了然后美丽
建议hard ar6 od5不然N和H感觉难度差太多 而且最高难度ar才8
[Normal]
00:42:108 - clap?
01:54:241 (1) - 取消折返然后推迟半拍呗 好好跟vocal好啊
02:00:417 (1,3) - 好像没blanket好好丑啊
02:12:770 (3,4) - ^
02:27:991 (4,5,1) - ^
02:18:064 (1,2,3,4) - copy来的?感觉好像啊.-.
02:57:770 (2) - 建议提前半拍停
02:59:535 (4) - ^ 一大坨堆一块多zz
03:16:300 (1) - 感觉可以音效可以设置渐强啊
[Hard]
00:29:976 (4,3) - 好像没stack好 而且这里感觉flow不好.-.
00:32:844 (2,3) - 建议
00:32:844 (2) - 1.6ds还不顺着滑条的方向感觉打起来不舒服啊 考虑拉近点或者和3换位置?
00:44:314 (4) - 建议拆成两个单点不然长白线在滑条尾上减弱节奏感
02:11:888 (5) - 改成直线滑条感觉好看些
02:23:358 (1,2) - 考虑节奏对换 打起来感觉好些
02:27:108 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - 建议这样的节奏看看会不会好些https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1573803
03:20:711 (1,2) - 感觉换成直滑条好看些
好多1/4折返感觉好zz啊
[Collab]
名字可以改成Collab Insane啊
unsnap则呢还在啊 你拖一下呗
00:23:358 (1) - 前面都跟到了四分拍这里也可以提前1/4拍结束然后放个圈wa
00:26:888 (1,2,3) - 不如放直线 好看些
00:43:873 (2) - 让前后ds一样感觉好些啊
00:44:535 (1) - 弧度大点blanket好呗
00:52:917 (6,1) - 弄平行感觉好看些啊
01:04:608 (2,3) - 看看这样排会不会flow好些http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1573862
01:11:888 (4) - 向右下凸起感觉flow会好些
01:17:181 (6) - 可以nc
01:18:064 (1) - 向上凸起试试?
01:20:711 (6) - nc?
01:24:902 (3,4,1) - 不觉得好丑吗...
01:39:241 (8) - nc?
02:03:285 (4) - nc?
02:35:491 (1) - nc?
03:28:653 (1) - 尾部可以向左点blanket下
03:34:829 (5) - nc?
美丽 考拉不后半段是肥求做的我书的有道理妈?
YoshinoSakura
472 posts
Joined January 2011
YoshinoSakura
这么好的图我还摸得出啥？

[General]
bg是男孩子?

[Insane]
有一些unsnapped
00:23:358 (1) - 柑橘ctrl+g以后和前面衔接的更好
00:25:123 (1,2) - 为何这两个不像前面那样分开呢
00:27:550 (5,1) - 【这两个交换一下顺一点吧
00:41:226 (2) - 滑条尾加个whistle还是听得到的
00:42:770 木有搞懂两条红线的whistle是何意，音乐里也没有类似的声音啊 如果是那个嗡嗡的声音柑橘没必要跟，实在是太小了
00:46:300 (1) - 觉得ctrl+g后要顺得多，还有没包好
00:46:961 (2) - 有点远
渣建议
01:03:505 (7) - 这不是等于没弯么
01:10:123 (1,2,3) - 我觉得这地方还不如跟vocal，那个嘟嘟的背景音都听不见了
01:11:667 (3) - 【个人意见】不是很喜欢这个pattern，建议放到和01:11:888 (4) - blanket的那个位置
01:16:520 (2,3) - Ctrl+g？打着顺一点
01:24:240 (1,2) - 同前
01:38:579 (4) - 因为vocal从这里开始了，如果放note然后突然就break了有一种奇怪的感觉，所以建议这里改成spinner，然后在01:39:241 结束
01:51:153 (3,1) - 挨着了不好看
02:02:182 (1) - ctrl+g？更顺一些
02:58:653 (1,2,3,4) - 看到这个形状好想笑。。
03:22:587 (6,7) - 间距增加到1.9或者2.0
03:39:020 (9) - 头部加上whistle
03:26:116 (3) - slider头部的那个音基本听不到，而中间的vocal却很明显，所以建议改成从03:26:226 - 开始的1/4slider
玛德盯着insane看了一个小时愣是没看出啥问题来

[Hard]
00:41:226 (2) - 和insane一样的建议
00:44:314 (4) - 柑橘重音在滑条尾上不太好
01:24:903 (9) - 如果前面两个加了clap这个也该加吧，在音乐里的音是一样的
01:37:697 (2) - 和insane一样的建议
02:10:564 (2) - ctrl+g？
03:46:079 (8) - 和前面一样

[Normal]
01:57:770 (2) - 不从01:57:550 开始？
02:12:770 (3,4) - 包好
03:46:300 (3) - nc（其他diff都nc了的）
没啥问题就是不用这么复杂的节奏吧，有些顾此失彼。

Good luck :)
Zero__wind
osu! Alumni
3,314 posts
Joined August 2012
Topic Starter
Zero__wind
zz
好
[General]
还是建议剪mp3你做图给别人玩然后别人下了一段老长的mp3却只有80%做了然后美丽
建议hard ar6 od5不然N和H感觉难度差太多 而且最高难度ar才8 AR6 感觉你在搞笑
[Normal]
00:42:108 - clap? 没这声鼓
01:54:241 (1) - 取消折返然后推迟半拍呗 好好跟vocal好啊 没跟vocal
02:00:417 (1,3) - 好像没blanket好好丑啊 猴猴猴
02:12:770 (3,4) - ^
02:27:991 (4,5,1) - ^
02:18:064 (1,2,3,4) - copy来的?感觉好像啊.-. 不懂
02:57:770 (2) - 建议提前半拍停 没意思
02:59:535 (4) - ^ 一大坨堆一块多zz
03:16:300 (1) - 感觉可以音效可以设置渐强啊 可以
[Hard]
00:29:976 (4,3) - 好像没stack好 而且这里感觉flow不好.-. 重新叠了一下 flow没问题
00:32:844 (2,3) - 建议
00:32:844 (2) - 1.6ds还不顺着滑条的方向感觉打起来不舒服啊 考虑拉近点或者和3换位置? 没啥不好 1又不会滑到底
00:44:314 (4) - 建议拆成两个单点不然长白线在滑条尾上减弱节奏感 连续circle太多不好
02:11:888 (5) - 改成直线滑条感觉好看些 和前面的对称的
02:23:358 (1,2) - 考虑节奏对换 打起来感觉好些 要和前面的一对儿滑条做出区别所以要先circle
02:27:108 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - 建议这样的节奏看看会不会好些https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1573803 可以再考虑一下
03:20:711 (1,2) - 感觉换成直滑条好看些 和前面对称的
好多1/4折返感觉好zz啊
[Collab]
名字可以改成Collab Insane啊 zz
unsnap则呢还在啊 你拖一下呗 好了
00:23:358 (1) - 前面都跟到了四分拍这里也可以提前1/4拍结束然后放个圈wa 这里根本没有四分拍你怎么听的
00:26:888 (1,2,3) - 不如放直线 好看些 无所谓的

01:39:241 (8) - nc? 行吧 看在最后一段也加了

02:35:491 (1) - nc? 加在最后一个circle了
美丽 考拉不后半段是肥求做的我书的有道理妈? zz
615
这么好的图我还摸得出啥？

[General]
bg是男孩子? 是萌妹子OAQ

[Insane]
有一些unsnapped 改了
00:23:358 (1) - 柑橘ctrl+g以后和前面衔接的更好 那后面就好奇怪
00:25:123 (1,2) - 为何这两个不像前面那样分开呢 我也不知道
00:27:550 (5,1) - 【这两个交换一下顺一点吧 后面不好
00:41:226 (2) - 滑条尾加个whistle还是听得到的 查无此音
00:42:770 木有搞懂两条红线的whistle是何意，音乐里也没有类似的声音啊 如果是那个嗡嗡的声音柑橘没必要跟，实在是太小了 没觉得啥问题

01:38:579 (4) - 因为vocal从这里开始了，如果放note然后突然就break了有一种奇怪的感觉，所以建议这里改成spinner，然后在01:39:241 结束 感觉这样挺好

02:58:653 (1,2,3,4) - 看到这个形状好想笑。。 哭哭OAQ 改了半天

玛德盯着insane看了一个小时愣是没看出啥问题来

[Hard]
00:41:226 (2) - 和insane一样的建议 都没改=。=
00:44:314 (4) - 柑橘重音在滑条尾上不太好 没跟鼓 而且circle太多也不太好
01:24:903 (9) - 如果前面两个加了clap这个也该加吧，在音乐里的音是一样的 前面两个？我好像没加错哈
01:37:697 (2) - 和insane一样的建议 根本就不一样！
02:10:564 (2) - ctrl+g？ 后面不顺
03:46:079 (8) - 和前面一样

[Normal]
01:57:770 (2) - 不从01:57:550 开始？ 感觉有点难
02:12:770 (3,4) - 包好 好的
03:46:300 (3) - nc（其他diff都nc了的） 因为这里太短了啊……
没啥问题就是不用这么复杂的节奏吧，有些顾此失彼。

Good luck :)
lgdry15
那个，这图实在是太好了，我只能说说些许小问题，请见谅……
（毕竟在作图方面还是个新手…… :lol: ） 非常感谢OAQ

[General]

（其实我也想问背景是男的是女的……）
MP3结尾有很大的空余部分，把它切掉应该会减小曲包大小吧…… 好吧切了

[Normal]

00:46:300 (1) - 感觉有点长了，缩短一个1/2拍。 嗯这个有道理
00:57:108 - 有点空，加一个长度为一拍的滑条。 那样再Normal里太难了
01:23:358 (5) - 感觉和后面的 01:24:241 (1) 合成一个会更好…… 后面circle跟的是另一个轨啊 不能合起来的
01:47:623 (2) - 提前一个1/2拍，然后在 01:47:623 处再加一个圈圈。 叠太多了太难
02:03:064 (4,5) - 整体延后1/2拍 也是感觉会让节奏变难

[Hard]

做的太好了，膜拜…… :?

[Collab]

简直神作，再次膜拜…… :o


啊，差不多了，我的水平就是这样，见笑了……
希望你的图能早日Rank！ :)
thx for your mods
lgdry15
205 posts
Joined November 2013
lgdry15
那个，这图实在是太好了，我只能说说些许小问题，请见谅……
（毕竟在作图方面还是个新手…… :lol: ）

[General]

（其实我也想问背景是男的是女的……）
MP3结尾有很大的空余部分，把它切掉应该会减小曲包大小吧……

[Normal]

00:46:300 (1) - 感觉有点长了，缩短一个1/2拍。
00:57:108 - 有点空，加一个长度为一拍的滑条。
01:23:358 (5) - 感觉和后面的 01:24:241 (1) 合成一个会更好……
01:47:623 (2) - 提前一个1/2拍，然后在 01:47:623 处再加一个圈圈。
02:03:064 (4,5) - 整体延后1/2拍

[Hard]

做的太好了，膜拜…… :?

[Collab]

简直神作，再次膜拜…… :o
01:50:491 (2) - 滑条结尾缩短1/2拍


啊，差不多了，我的水平就是这样，见笑了……
希望你的图能早日Rank！ :)
Melt
353 posts
Joined May 2011
Melt
:3

[Normal]
  1. 00:11:038 (1) - Normal的话感觉可以试试在00:12:802结束
  2. 00:52:729 (5,1) - 个人觉得摆成这样貌似好要一些
    SPOILER
  3. 01:54:273 (1) - 感觉前面这个音可以空着
    SPOILER
[Hard]
  1. 00:51:626 (1) - 这个slider的朝向个人感觉可以往右一点，比如这样
    SPOILER
  2. 00:54:935 (1) - 因为这一整段感觉离其他相似的地方都没有拉开距离，所以感觉这里其实也不用拉大，试试这样呢
    SPOILER
  3. 01:06:185 (3) - 微调到（257,279）？
  4. 02:27:912 (6) - 感觉这个音好像不明显的样子，可以删掉这个circle试试
  5. 03:38:832 (2,3) - 可以把这个往上抬一点，和03:38:170(4)的位置做一下配合
    SPOILER
  6. 03:40:376 (5) - 同样是朝向的建议orz
    SPOILER
[Collab]
  1. 00:15:449 (3,1) - 这里这个ds感觉小的有点奇怪，我的建议是这样
    SPOILER
  2. 00:32:214 (1) - 感觉这个sldier做一个向右弯的弧度会更好一些
  3. 00:51:957 (3) - 感觉这一个note不要会好一些0.0
  4. 01:05:302 (4) - 这个sldier试试调整到这个位置呢
    SPOILER
  5. 01:09:273 (1,2) - 这两个可以叠一下
  6. 01:49:861 (1,2) - 说实话这个间距第一次打下了一跳;w; 要不要把2ctrl+g一下
  7. 02:03:758 (6) - 可以试试放在（99,170）附近
  8. 02:07:067 (1) - 虽然实际打起来好像影响不大，但还是感觉ctrl+g之后会舒服些
  9. 02:13:685 (1,2,3) - 感觉可以把2的位置换一下让这一组和前面一组02:10:155(1,2,3)感觉相似些
    SPOILER
  10. 02:56:920 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 感觉这4组，每一组组内间距的变化可以是大-小-大-小这样（其实好像反过来也行orz
大概就这么多了，真是好老的图了;w;
Flask
Beatmap Nominator
3,460 posts
Joined July 2011
Flask
終於考完試了

[General]
  1. 怎麼感覺後面還是可以做啊不過你想要在那停也行 也許會被轟80%擦邊?
  2. 下載回來之後出現了update latest version 可能會有點偏差 建議重傳
  3. 一聽就覺得offset不太準 我個人感覺offset-30 (11008) .. 不過我mod還是用11038
  4. 快去要個SB啊或者collab加名子那種
[Collab]
  1. 00:15:449 (3,1) - 可能有點nazi, 不過這裡spacing突然縮小了 (相對於00:14:898 (2,3) - )感覺好詭異, 我看到你後面的00:21:957 (2,3,1) - 沒有刻意縮小的意思, 也許可以一致一下
  2. 00:29:677 (4,5,6,7) - 關於這邊我想表達一下我的看法, 我感覺把whistle從(7)的頭搬到(6)上比較好, 原因也不知道就是有種感覺(.) 到是我覺得像是00:31:221 (4,5,6,7) - 這種地方 因為(4)的尾巴照理來講應該是要是什麼什麼東西的開頭(比方說slider或stream)可是他是結尾 導致這whistle聽起來有點空虛 (也可以說打起來空空的) 這時候(6)又沒聲音的話會呈現一種別扭的感覺 你自己感受一下吧我大概也懂你的想法
  3. 00:40:817 (1,2,3) - *吐槽*不來變速嗎好可惜
  4. 00:45:890 (4,5,1) - 感覺意外的很不flow 試試這樣?
    SPOILER
  5. 00:55:596 (2,3,4) - 我自己是不太喜歡這種啦 (2,3)的水平距離和(3,4)不太一樣 當然你OK就沒事
  6. 01:21:185 (7,1) - 離的有點近, 略不爽
  7. 01:39:273 (1) - 30%finish? 或者現在的60%也還好
  8. 02:02:214 (1) - 改成ctrl+j那個方向? 要不就直接頭尾調換flow典
  9. 02:12:802 (1,2,3) - 感覺略窄, (2)不來個跳? 至少像02:16:332 (1,2,3) -
  10. 02:18:096 (3,1) - (3)漏了nc還是故意的啊, 感覺不太像故意的所以swap吧
  11. 03:17:435 (4,1,2,3) - 就我個人觀點我不覺得有人會把(4)當作stream 大概就跟著前面的stream按過去了. 所以說03:17:435 (4,1) - 可以再打開一點, 就像一般的1/2那樣擺就行. 也許像這樣?
    SPOILER
    沒了, 不過我感覺kiai的spacing有點不一致, 而且都只差0.1x~0.2x, 最好check一下
[Hard]
  1. 01:14:787 (2,3) - spacing開的有點明顯
  2. 01:53:170 (5,1) - 這兒也是 或者是說慢速到快速之間銜接的不太好導致這樣醜醜的 也許你從(4,5)開始就可以擺1.8x讓玩家們知道那邊要開始變快了
N我看不出啥, 我幫你點泡
Fycho
Global Moderator
2,479 posts
Joined August 2012
Fycho
改了很多，有点懒回复了orz, 把整个diff代码都po上来了省的咱们都麻烦
SPOILER
osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: gyutto shite hoshiinda .mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 55895
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 42770,85123,99241,109829,127476,155711,169829,198064,228064
DistanceSpacing: 0.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Gyutto Shite Hoshiinda
TitleUnicode:ぎゅっとして欲しいんだ
Artist:Yuuki Aoi
ArtistUnicode:悠木碧
Creator:Zero__wind
Version:Collab
Source:A Channel
Tags:Ichii Tooru insert song 03 Aチャンネル 2 Fycho
BeatmapID:199295
BeatmapSetID:69004

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.8
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[Events]
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
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Zero__wind
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Topic Starter
Zero__wind
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[Normal]
  1. 00:11:038 (1) - Normal的话感觉可以试试在00:12:802结束 嗯好
  2. 00:52:729 (5,1) - 个人觉得摆成这样貌似好要一些
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    换了种别的
  3. 01:54:273 (1) - 感觉前面这个音可以空着
    SPOILER
    那样和前面空两拍半有点不太好把握 不如整两拍
[Hard]
  1. 00:51:626 (1) - 这个slider的朝向个人感觉可以往右一点，比如这样
    SPOILER
    可以
  2. 00:54:935 (1) - 因为这一整段感觉离其他相似的地方都没有拉开距离，所以感觉这里其实也不用拉大，试试这样呢
    SPOILER
    这个就是有意的 因为从这里开始音乐要变强了
  3. 01:06:185 (3) - 微调到（257,279）？ 好的
  4. 02:27:912 (6) - 感觉这个音好像不明显的样子，可以删掉这个circle试试 音还是有的 留着保持节奏一致吧
  5. 03:38:832 (2,3) - 可以把这个往上抬一点，和03:38:170(4)的位置做一下配合
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    行
  6. 03:40:376 (5) - 同样是朝向的建议orz
    SPOILER
    好的
[Collab]
  1. 00:15:449 (3,1) - 这里这个ds感觉小的有点奇怪，我的建议是这样
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    行
  2. 00:32:214 (1) - 感觉这个sldier做一个向右弯的弧度会更好一些 嗯可以
  3. 02:13:685 (1,2,3) - 感觉可以把2的位置换一下让这一组和前面一组02:10:155(1,2,3)感觉相似些
    SPOILER
    可以
  4. 02:56:920 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 感觉这4组，每一组组内间距的变化可以是大-小-大-小这样（其实好像反过来也行orz 思路是可以 但是我想让最后一组是大 所以就不太合适了
大概就这么多了，真是好老的图了;w; 是啊OAQ
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終於考完試了

[General]
  1. 怎麼感覺後面還是可以做啊不過你想要在那停也行 也許會被轟80%擦邊? 我切了mp3 忘记提醒redl了=。=
  2. 下載回來之後出現了update latest version 可能會有點偏差 建議重傳
  3. 一聽就覺得offset不太準 我個人感覺offset-30 (11008) .. 不過我mod還是用11038
  4. 快去要個SB啊或者collab加名子那種 我找了公主她没答应呜呜呜OAQ
[Collab]
  1. 00:15:449 (3,1) - 可能有點nazi, 不過這裡spacing突然縮小了 (相對於00:14:898 (2,3) - )感覺好詭異, 我看到你後面的00:21:957 (2,3,1) - 沒有刻意縮小的意思, 也許可以一致一下 好的
  2. 00:29:677 (4,5,6,7) - 關於這邊我想表達一下我的看法, 我感覺把whistle從(7)的頭搬到(6)上比較好, 原因也不知道就是有種感覺(.) 到是我覺得像是00:31:221 (4,5,6,7) - 這種地方 因為(4)的尾巴照理來講應該是要是什麼什麼東西的開頭(比方說slider或stream)可是他是結尾 導致這whistle聽起來有點空虛 (也可以說打起來空空的) 這時候(6)又沒聲音的話會呈現一種別扭的感覺 你自己感受一下吧我大概也懂你的想法 感觉那样连着3个有点吵了 我基本上是按音调加的
  3. 00:40:817 (1,2,3) - *吐槽*不來變速嗎好可惜 我善良
  4. 01:39:273 (1) - 30%finish? 或者現在的60%也還好 不太合适 这里要安静 非常的
  5. 02:12:802 (1,2,3) - 感覺略窄, (2)不來個跳? 至少像02:16:332 (1,2,3) - 不了 根据vocal故意做的小间距
  6. 02:18:096 (3,1) - (3)漏了nc還是故意的啊, 感覺不太像故意的所以swap吧 故意的啊 按一致性的话相似位置上3都是在前面那个combo里面 这里因为歌词有点不一样了所以多了一个4，考虑到4和3是一组的 后面的circle是另外一个pattern
  7. 03:17:435 (4,1,2,3) - 就我個人觀點我不覺得有人會把(4)當作stream 大概就跟著前面的stream按過去了. 所以說03:17:435 (4,1) - 可以再打開一點, 就像一般的1/2那樣擺就行. 也許像這樣?
    SPOILER
    不要OAQ 我要留着我的“A”
    沒了, 不過我感覺kiai的spacing有點不一致, 而且都只差0.1x~0.2x, 最好check一下 间距问Fycho=。=
[Hard]
  1. 01:14:787 (2,3) - spacing開的有點明顯 这没什么吧
  2. 01:53:170 (5,1) - 這兒也是 或者是說慢速到快速之間銜接的不太好導致這樣醜醜的 也許你從(4,5)開始就可以擺1.8x讓玩家們知道那邊要開始變快了 这里是故意的 想突出1上面的重音啊
N我看不出啥, 我幫你點泡
thx for your mod~
Updated all diffs!
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lol those stars =.=
I have to...

EDIT: resnapped preview point
naughty map, don't you go to graveyard again plz?
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sorry for late ;;;

Suggest ...

[Normal]
00:54:714 (2) - x140 : y44
02:53:390 (1) - add Clap ( 02:53:832 )
03:09:273 - 03:10:596 - The slide does not have to spin the next section. How do you try to add ~


[Hard]
00:40:817 (1,2,3) - emphasise the 'finish sound' with decrease sound that the end of the slider >~<


Sorry to a little modding .......;;;
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[ Karen ] wrote:

sorry for late ;;;

Suggest ...

[Normal]
00:54:714 (2) - x140 : y44 hmm I think either is ok
02:53:390 (1) - add Clap ( 02:53:832 ) ok
03:09:273 - 03:10:596 - The slide does not have to spin the next section. How do you try to add ~ dosen't fit well I think


[Hard]
00:40:817 (1,2,3) - emphasise the 'finish sound' with decrease sound that the end of the slider >~< already turned down


Sorry to a little modding .......;;;
thx for your mod
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nothing to complain about. gj
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瞎了又泡
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Yess more Yuuki Aoi <3 <3
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这个曲子终于要rank惹>///<
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Selisi wrote:

这个曲子终于要rank惹>///<
嗯嗯~依依666posts吉利~
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Zero__wind wrote:

Selisi wrote:

这个曲子终于要rank惹>///<
嗯嗯~依依666posts吉利~
恭喜发财:D
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Quick note: http://www.a-ch.jp/

A-Channel, A-CHANNELor Aチャンネルwould be the correct source. Very minor, but might as well be correct. The only time I've seen it listed without the hyphen is on Wikipedia.. and that's wikipedia, not an official site.

Also: 2 Fycho <3
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hmm, love me some yuuki aoi. this needs to get ranked already :D
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omgggggg RED Lanturn

fixed source and added the previous source "A Channel" to tags
the tag "Aチャンネル 2" is the album name from where I downloaded the mp3 so I'd like to keep it
changed OD to 7.5 for Collab diff

but I suddenly remember Lanturn you can't qualify =.=
gotta catch Ike
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Hey Zero. Actually I don't think there will be any problems qualifying this on my end (no timing problems, and I can qualify maps). I'm going to work on a mod for this tomorrow, and get this to the place it rightfully deserves. As of right now though, I need to sleep for work.
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Hello. Mod/Bubble Check as promised! (also, don't KD this since you gave one to me earlier :))

[General]
BG: Your BG isn't a proper 4:3 or 16:9 scaling. (960x720 would have been accurate for 4:3. A problem easily spotted on this is your SB in the collab diff. It has some black shown on the sides before it hits the border.
I downscaled from 726 to 720, and then made it 16:9 by adding white borders on the side for the final 1280x720 16:9 dimensions: http://puu.sh/b9myS.jpg

^after taking this, make sure to enable widescreen and readjust the SB for widescreen. I personally find moving the x coord from 505 to 475 fits perfectly!
Example:
M,0,14126,42802,505,420
Change to and repeat for the rest.
M,0,14126,42802,475,420

[All Diffs]
  1. 01:07:508 - 01:21:626 - 02:18:096 - 02:32:214 - 03:28:685 - 03:42:802 - I would suggest adding a whistle on each point listed. When playing through this I can really notice when you stop using whistles at these points. While it does suit the song, I believe it suits the song better to have this expected whistle on each point.
  2. If you apply the above. Consider 01:21:626 - 02:32:214 - 03:42:802 - to reduce their volume down to 60% from 70% because of how similar it is to the first half of the kiai.
  3. 02:55:155 - This whistle section feels slightly loud. Maybe try 50%?
[Normal]
One note: A lot of the DS spacings varies a lot in this difficulty. An example is 01:45:890 (4,1) - using 0.88 distance spacing when you are using 0.8 DS. Another big one is 02:54:273 (2) - with quite the distance between the previous/next notes. I highly recommend going through this difficulty very quickly, and adjust any big spacings like mentioned above.
  1. 02:00:449 (1) - I would suggest shortening this slider by 1/2 and then adding a circle or 1/2 slider at 02:01:552 - | Reference back at 00:49:861 (1,2) - which is the same part of the song.
  2. 02:28:023 (4,5) - I find this pattern a little awkard to play since it comes off of a 3/2 slider. One solution is to add a whistle to the tail end of (4) | Do this in all diffs if you put one here. | Another suggestion is to turn these into a 1/2 reverse slider like you did at 01:17:435 (4) - which in my opinion is a needed change.
  3. 03:15:890 (4) - I think this would be much more suited at x256 y358 for a little bit of symmetry with 03:14:126 (5) - | Another reason is that this starts getting too low on the screen for comfort.
[Hard]
As mentioned in normal, the distance spacing in this difficulty is a bit out of place again. Stuff like 02:52:508 (3,4) - could be easily balanced. Please go through this difficulty again and check the DS on each note.
  1. 00:54:935 (1) - I highly suggest removing this timing point, or moving it to 00:55:596 - as there is an SV change in the middle of it (I'm pretty sure this would cause some problems in convert maps, so I would like to see this changed). I believe the best time to start up 1.0 SV is at 00:56:920 - when the kiai starts instead of during the lead-in part. If you do decide to keep the SV in the lead-in part make sure to NC when you apply it.
  2. 01:57:582 (2) - Add whistle. This part feels empty without the whistle emphasizing on the vocals here. (collab has a whistle here)
  3. 02:05:743 - also has the same issue as above. | If you wanted to as well, you can move the SV change of 03:16:332 - to 03:18:096 - even though there isn't any sliders from this until the kiai starts. Consistency though.
  4. 02:22:508 (4) - Lower this slider a bit since it gets pretty close to the top of the screen. You can easily achieve this by selecting 02:21:626 (1,2,3,4,5) - and moving them all down a little. adjusting for DS on the upcoming note of course.
  5. 03:01:993 (3) - I suggest putting an NC here. This is a pretty long combo otherwise. (check collab for reference)
[Collab]
Fycho:
  1. 00:58:685 (1) - Try placing this at x256 y186 | It blankets the earlier slider and maintains the equal spacing.
  2. 03:26:148 (3) - Balance this slider out as it is going from 0.77 to 0.93 and could use some tidying up. | Simply moving this to x390 y308 works pretty well.
Zero:
  1. 01:25:596 (2,3) - These two sliders really feel like they're seperated by 1/2 spacing, even if I try to remember I forget and always hit it late. It's mostly due to the symmetry, but the sudden start of this new rhythm is also causing it. I think it would be much better to break the pattern you have going and use some 1/4 circles to generate the wanted effect as it'll set the rhythm down for the upcoming notes. | https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1971558 is an example of what you can do.
  2. 01:39:273 (1) - Add a whistle to this like you have in both Normal/Hard.
All in all these diffs are great. Call me back when you've gone through the mod!
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Lanturn wrote:

Hello. Mod/Bubble Check as promised! (also, don't KD this since you gave one to me earlier :)) lol I clicked without thinking

[General]
BG: Your BG isn't a proper 4:3 or 16:9 scaling. (960x720 would have been accurate for 4:3. A problem easily spotted on this is your SB in the collab diff. It has some black shown on the sides before it hits the border.
I downscaled from 726 to 720, and then made it 16:9 by adding white borders on the side for the final 1280x720 16:9 dimensions: http://puu.sh/b9myS.jpg
thx a lot for this~
^after taking this, make sure to enable widescreen and readjust the SB for widescreen. I personally find moving the x coord from 505 to 475 fits perfectly! eh I think the current is also fine so not changed
Example:
M,0,14126,42802,505,420
Change to and repeat for the rest.
M,0,14126,42802,475,420

[All Diffs]
  1. 01:07:508 - 01:21:626 - 02:18:096 - 02:32:214 - 03:28:685 - 03:42:802 - I would suggest adding a whistle on each point listed. When playing through this I can really notice when you stop using whistles at these points. While it does suit the song, I believe it suits the song better to have this expected whistle on each point. sorry I did the hitsounding like this intentionally, I want to keep them without whistles as the music, especially vocal becomes soft here so I want to show the difference. not changed
  2. If you apply the above. Consider 01:21:626 - 02:32:214 - 03:42:802 - to reduce their volume down to 60% from 70% because of how similar it is to the first half of the kiai. you are still just right on this point
  3. 02:55:155 - This whistle section feels slightly loud. Maybe try 50%? hmm I think it's currently fine
[Normal]
One note: A lot of the DS spacings varies a lot in this difficulty. An example is 01:45:890 (4,1) - using 0.88 distance spacing when you are using 0.8 DS. Another big one is 02:54:273 (2) - with quite the distance between the previous/next notes. I highly recommend going through this difficulty very quickly, and adjust any big spacings like mentioned above. should be fine now
  1. 02:00:449 (1) - I would suggest shortening this slider by 1/2 and then adding a circle or 1/2 slider at 02:01:552 - | Reference back at 00:49:861 (1,2) - which is the same part of the song. I kinda wanna keep this because I think the vocal actually ends at different time caomparing thiese two points while I mostly go with the vocal in this diff
  2. 02:28:023 (4,5) - I find this pattern a little awkard to play since it comes off of a 3/2 slider. One solution is to add a whistle to the tail end of (4) | Do this in all diffs if you put one here. | Another suggestion is to turn these into a 1/2 reverse slider like you did at 01:17:435 (4) - which in my opinion is a needed change. fixed with 1/2 reverse
  3. 03:15:890 (4) - I think this would be much more suited at x256 y358 for a little bit of symmetry with 03:14:126 (5) - | Another reason is that this starts getting too low on the screen for comfort. changed in different way
[Hard]
As mentioned in normal, the distance spacing in this difficulty is a bit out of place again. Stuff like 02:52:508 (3,4) - could be easily balanced. Please go through this difficulty again and check the DS on each note. should also be fine now
  1. 00:54:935 (1) - I highly suggest removing this timing point, or moving it to 00:55:596 - as there is an SV change in the middle of it (I'm pretty sure this would cause some problems in convert maps, so I would like to see this changed). I believe the best time to start up 1.0 SV is at 00:56:920 - when the kiai starts instead of during the lead-in part. If you do decide to keep the SV in the lead-in part make sure to NC when you apply it. ok I never thought about other modes
  2. 01:57:582 (2) - Add whistle. This part feels empty without the whistle emphasizing on the vocals here. (collab has a whistle here) fixed
  3. 02:05:743 - also has the same issue as above. | If you wanted to as well, you can move the SV change of 03:16:332 - to 03:18:096 - even though there isn't any sliders from this until the kiai starts. Consistency though. also for these
  4. 02:22:508 (4) - Lower this slider a bit since it gets pretty close to the top of the screen. You can easily achieve this by selecting 02:21:626 (1,2,3,4,5) - and moving them all down a little. adjusting for DS on the upcoming note of course. fixed by rotating
  5. 03:01:993 (3) - I suggest putting an NC here. This is a pretty long combo otherwise. (check collab for reference) I don't really get the necessity here because there're only 2 objects before that in the combo set, changed though
[Collab]
Fycho:
  1. 00:58:685 (1) - Try placing this at x256 y186 | It blankets the earlier slider and maintains the equal spacing.
  2. 03:26:148 (3) - Balance this slider out as it is going from 0.77 to 0.93 and could use some tidying up. | Simply moving this to x390 y308 works pretty well.
asked Fycho and fixed the above two
Zero:
  1. 01:25:596 (2,3) - These two sliders really feel like they're seperated by 1/2 spacing, even if I try to remember I forget and always hit it late. It's mostly due to the symmetry, but the sudden start of this new rhythm is also causing it. I think it would be much better to break the pattern you have going and use some 1/4 circles to generate the wanted effect as it'll set the rhythm down for the upcoming notes. | https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1971558 is an example of what you can do. ok if it really make things better, I don't have any problem on that though, as it's pretty consistent with the other similar ones which follow and it's not the first appearance of this rhythm in this diff
  2. 01:39:273 (1) - Add a whistle to this like you have in both Normal/Hard. ok a lower volume one for consistency
All in all these diffs are great. Call me back when you've gone through the mod!
thx for your mod~ and updated!
and plz "turn the page"
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Alright, discussed a little more, and this is now good to go!

Congrats! (First ranked map by me as well!)

Ranked
Mao
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Gratz to both of you ;b
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My first ranked collab\:D/
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Wait.. really? 0_o Wow congrats to you then as well Fycho for that!
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:!: :!: :!: :shock: oh..Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) .............. :!: :!: :!: :shock:
第一頁全是黑歷史。好想找個洞轉下去;w;。
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u guys all became to red name!...omg... :)
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Grats!
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Congratulations! :D
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wa!
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Athena Tennos wrote:

u guys all became to red name!...omg... :)
`w`
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Hi. Sorry but I have to unqualify this. The difficulty spread needs to be improved: the gap from Normal to Hard is massive compared to the gap between Hard and Collab. Hard itself is too difficult with the numerous 2 or 4 object streams and the circle/slider composition near the end is too confusing for the difficulty (adding an Easy won't hurt either).
Normal is generally quite clustered and could use a spacing increase.

Collab feels a bit overmapped/overdone for how soft the song is.

The map will be handled by BATs from this point on.
Zero__wind
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Hi Shiro
My diffs are all good as they are and I won't change anything if there're no proper suggestions
Hard is still at hard-level and Collab is not overmapped, the rhythm is made according to the music and works out fine
I admit that the gap from the current Normal to Hard is sharp so I will rename the Normal as Easy and add an additional Normal inbetween soon

EDIT: done. need mods for Normal diff now
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IRC mod only Normal
16:47 Zero__wind: 飞翔啊有木有时间 求摸一个diff
16:47 Zero__wind: 我图被un了说spread不好 我刚补了新Normal =。=
16:49 Loneight: 哎哎!
16:49 Loneight: 所以只摸normal么
16:49 Zero__wind: 嗯嗯 其他diff都没改
16:49 *Zero__wind is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/492654 Yuuki Aoi - Gyutto Shite Hoshiinda]
16:49 Loneight: irc ok么(?
16:49 Zero__wind: 可以
16:49 Zero__wind: 毕竟新diff嘛 肯定要先找几个mod
16:50 Loneight: 好, 那開始囉
16:50 Loneight: 00:11:038 (1,1) - 這個就unrankble了 ww...
16:50 Loneight: 最近Irreversible PM給了我們關於spinner之後的recover time
16:50 Zero__wind: 嗯怎么了？
16:51 Loneight: General rule of thumb: Easy - Full measure (4 beats). Each difficulty increment up, halve it. So Normal would be about 2 beats, Hard 1 beat
16:52 Zero__wind: 从来没觉得要那么久……【捂脸
16:52 Zero__wind: 我都觉得Easy只有2条白线 Normal要一条
16:52 Loneight: 不知道, 最近garven抓這個抓得超嚴 OTZ
16:52 Loneight: 聽說大部分unrank譜面都是因為這個
16:53 Zero__wind: 好 那其他的spinner还有好几个了
16:53 Zero__wind: 我明天试试抓一下嘉文问问
16:53 Loneight: 嗯嗯
16:53 Zero__wind: =。=
16:55 Loneight: wa, 突然覺得這歌節奏有點難抓
16:55 Zero__wind: 节奏比较碎
16:55 Loneight: 後面的spinner真的也有 www!
16:56 Zero__wind: 是的 每个kiai之前
16:56 Zero__wind: 那都好改 如果真的需要改的话我就把每个kiai最开始那个1/2 slider删掉就万事大吉
16:56 Loneight: 01:17:435 (7) - 考慮NC? 我有點擔心newbie對這個沒有免疫力
16:57 Zero__wind: 可以 虽然歌曲跟前面的地方不太一样 不过也是NC的毕竟前面都有
16:57 Zero__wind: 那我把这种的也也加了01:20:964 (7) -
16:57 Loneight: 不知道該怎麼解釋, 我試試, 因為01:16:993 (6,7) - 是往上flow, 01:17:435 (7,8) - 的是往下, 但是, 01:17:876 (8) - 離01:16:993 (6) - 太近, 可能newbie不易讀出這段
16:58 Loneight: lol!
16:58 Zero__wind: 嗯 那个地方flow不是顺着的
16:58 Loneight: 好relaxing的歌 XD
16:59 Loneight: 02:18:979 (4) - 糟糕啦, 我的blanket強迫症又發作了
17:00 Zero__wind: 真是糟糕 那个地方是最后改的所以没修好
17:00 Zero__wind: 本来02:18:096 (3) - 是两个一来一回1/2 slider 最后为了降星给改了
17:01 Loneight: wa
17:01 Loneight: 我現在才發現這個已經2.25星了
17:02 Zero__wind: 嗯就是冲着这个去的
17:02 Zero__wind: 结果做完了以后2.26……
17:02 Zero__wind: 然后就删了几个circle
17:02 Loneight: (stresss
17:03 Loneight: 這歌有sb么
17:03 Loneight: 說錯, 這圖
17:03 Loneight: 沒有的話 widescreen support 勾勾取消掉 (?
17:04 Zero__wind: 只有collab有name card
17:04 Zero__wind: 那个东西 Lanturn说因为bg比例是宽屏的所以开着比较好
17:04 Loneight: 噢噢!
17:04 Loneight: 沒注意bg size www
17:05 Loneight: 大致上就這些了 看過去基本上沒什么問題
nothing to say, nice Normal!
call me back after more mods
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irc modded the normal diff, added several whistles and changed some rhythm patterns.
SPOILER
2014-09-03 22:49 Fycho: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/492654 Yuuki Aoi - Gyutto Shite Hoshiinda [Normal]]
2014-09-03 22:49 Fycho: 下完了
2014-09-03 22:49 Zero__wind: 嗯
2014-09-03 22:49 Fycho:  00:11:038 (1,1) - 这个是不是太soon啊
2014-09-03 22:50 Fycho: 那边不是说easy 4拍 normal两拍嘛，这就一拍
2014-09-03 22:50 Zero__wind: 是啊按现在的意思好像是都危险
2014-09-03 22:50 Fycho: 我觉得干脆移除转盘比较号
2014-09-03 22:50 Fycho: 直接跟人声 
2014-09-03 22:50 Fycho: safe为主
2014-09-03 22:50 Zero__wind: 当时做的时候都是按Easy两拍Normal一拍做的
2014-09-03 22:50 Fycho: 把低难度开头转盘都去掉？
2014-09-03 22:51 Zero__wind: 可以考虑 反正暂时我先放着不动
2014-09-03 22:51 Zero__wind: 其实后面还有转盘……
2014-09-03 22:51 Fycho: 我的意思是 少一个转盘没什么 优先safe啊
2014-09-03 22:51 Zero__wind: ACTION dies
2014-09-03 22:51 Fycho: 你等来看的狗看看他说什么
2014-09-03 22:51 Zero__wind: 嗯 是这个意思
2014-09-03 22:52 Zero__wind: 反正真要改也不麻烦 分分钟的事儿 不掉肉
2014-09-03 22:53 Fycho: 00:57:802 (2) - whistle
2014-09-03 22:54 Zero__wind: 好的
2014-09-03 22:55 Fycho: 01:37:287 (1,2,3,4) - 换个形状？像平行四边形00:40:817 (1,2,3,4) - 
2014-09-03 22:55 Fycho: 不然等腰梯形
2014-09-03 22:55 Fycho: 有点强迫症
2014-09-03 22:55 Zero__wind: 完全没想这回事儿……
2014-09-03 22:56 Zero__wind: 123是复制的前面的 4是随便摆的orz
2014-09-03 22:56 Fycho: 好
2014-09-03 22:56 Fycho: 02:04:861 (3) - 这个放到02:04:640 - 来？
2014-09-03 22:56 Fycho: 跟music加whistle
2014-09-03 22:57 Fycho: 跟前面几句一样 并跟第一段kiai前区分开
2014-09-03 22:57 Zero__wind: 也行
2014-09-03 22:57 Zero__wind: 做这里的时候我也想了一下 要不要和前面一样算了
2014-09-03 22:58 Fycho: 前面没那个红线音=。=
2014-09-03 22:58 Fycho: 02:28:023 (1,2) - 交换？红线起的滑条打着憋屈
2014-09-03 22:58 Fycho: 先圈后1/2滑条 这种
2014-09-03 22:58 Zero__wind: 哦明白 打着不舒服么
2014-09-03 22:59 Fycho: 第一个kiai也是啊
2014-09-03 22:59 Zero__wind: 反正有几个类似的地方 我就随便看心情有的时候先circle有的时候先slider的……
2014-09-03 23:00 Fycho: 01:09:273 - whistle？参考01:23:390 - 
2014-09-03 23:00 Fycho: 02:19:640 - ^
2014-09-03 23:00 Zero__wind: 好的
2014-09-03 23:00 Fycho: 02:49:861 - 这里,
2014-09-03 23:00 Fycho: 这里开始到03:03:537 - 
2014-09-03 23:00 Fycho: 全白线加clap?
2014-09-03 23:00 Fycho: 我觉得跟贴合音乐
2014-09-03 23:01 Zero__wind: 感觉有点吵 算了
2014-09-03 23:01 Fycho: 03:03:979 (1,2,3) - 距离大点?
2014-09-03 23:01 Zero__wind: 我觉得前面每小节前三拍都像底鼓
2014-09-03 23:01 Fycho: 容易读成1/2
2014-09-03 23:02 Zero__wind: 嗯 这个再看看吧 反正暂时就是按ds的
2014-09-03 23:02 Fycho: 03:46:332 (3) - 加个whistle更好啊
2014-09-03 23:02 Fycho: 美丽
2014-09-03 23:03 Zero__wind: 行
2014-09-03 23:03 Zero__wind: 那我其他diff也得加一下了
Sharlo
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Sharlo
一直掉线没法IRC啊orz

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  1. 00:11:038 (1) - 这里你不用抓嘉文问了 嘉文对抓spinner这件时间简直情有独钟
    我的图就是因为这样被要求re的 我觉得去掉了也不好 跟Easy一样的结束时间比较好呢
  2. 00:15:449 (3) - 唔这里怎么听都觉得很奇怪 建议是折返一下跟vocal
  3. 00:55:155 (1) - 这边的spinner去掉 在00:56:037 - 加一个1/1的折返滑条
  4. 01:09:052 (3) - Remove 总觉得01:08:170 - 这里才应该加note呢
  5. 01:42:802 (1) - 这里节奏对不上啊喂……怎么看都很违和
  6. 01:48:317 (3,4) - 也是十分违和……不介意的话都去掉吧【逃
  7. 01:49:861 (1) - 也是十分牵强
  8. 01:57:582 (2) - 考虑1/2来回滑条妈
  9. 02:05:743 (1) - 同上
  10. 02:19:640 (3) - 同上
  11. 02:51:405 - 加个圈?
歌好治愈就是BG不萌
Shiro
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Shiro

Zero__wind wrote:

I admit that the gap from the current Normal to Hard is sharp so I will rename the Normal as Easy and add an additional Normal inbetween soon
That is all you needed to do!

Regarding Hard:
00:35:302 (6,2) - confusing because the second slider is hidden under the first one. I don't think this would be acceptable in an Insane, let alone in a Hard - you could try to turn (6) around so that it doesn't cover (2) anymore
00:41:258 (2,1) - same
I see you have made it easier, which is good. I personally (I insist: personally) think this is ok, although there are too many triples to my taste.

Regarding the Collab:
00:29:126 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this kind of rhythm, which you use a lot, is nowhere to be found in the song. It doesn't exactly fit its calm and quiet nature either. Simpler streams (3 and 5 notes) would fit much better.
00:47:435 (3,4,1) - please make these a proper triangle =(
01:10:155 (1,2) - this goes against the song - the emphasized beat is 01:10:596 - which is a sliderend in the map. It's the same problem as those 2 and 4-note streams I pointed out earlier
01:11:699 (3,4) - super duper mega ultra nazi but they aren't perfectly stacked
01:27:361 (2,3,4,5,6) - This kind of spacing is really confusing, it looks like (2,3) is a 1/2 gap, while it's not.
The song repeats itself a lot and so does the map (which is good, in a way), so what I pointed out above applies to a lot of different spots across the whole diff

The main problem with this map is the overuse of 1/4 that are nowhere to be found in the song, whether it be in the Hard or in the Collab.

don't kd this
Zero__wind
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Zero__wind

Shiro wrote:

Zero__wind wrote:

I admit that the gap from the current Normal to Hard is sharp so I will rename the Normal as Easy and add an additional Normal inbetween soon
That is all you needed to do! oh glad to see you again

Regarding Hard:
00:35:302 (6,2) - confusing because the second slider is hidden under the first one. I don't think this would be acceptable in an Insane, let alone in a Hard - you could try to turn (6) around so that it doesn't cover (2) anymore no I actually don't think that 6 would ever totally overlap 2, when you're about to click, 6 has already disappeared. yet I changed this one as it could be easily achieved
00:41:258 (2,1) - same I rotated 1 by a certain degree and it should be better now, I know it's still kinda overlapped, but I think there's no other proper place for it to stay
I see you have made it easier, which is good. I personally (I insist: personally) think this is ok, although there are too many triples to my taste. yes it's a bit much, at the end, because I originally wanted to make the later kiais harder than the former as the song goes stronger (also for Collab) should still be acceptable though

Regarding the Collab:
00:29:126 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this kind of rhythm, which you use a lot, is nowhere to be found in the song. It doesn't exactly fit its calm and quiet nature either. Simpler streams (3 and 5 notes) would fit much better. No, I'd say, definitely. as you may know or not, I've NEVER been a mapper who will cassually throw inexistent streams everywhere. I mapped them like this because I think and I'm really sure that there are keyboard sounds which form rhythms like this. plz really ask some other people if you still think it's wrong, or use a better earphone or anything. you make like this, or not, but as it's in the music, it shouldn't be denied and forbidden.
00:47:435 (3,4,1) - please make these a proper triangle =( okie
01:10:155 (1,2) - this goes against the song - the emphasized beat is 01:10:596 - which is a sliderend in the map. It's the same problem as those 2 and 4-note streams I pointed out earlier same thing (as you said)
01:11:699 (3,4) - super duper mega ultra nazi but they aren't perfectly stacked fixed
01:27:361 (2,3,4,5,6) - This kind of spacing is really confusing, it looks like (2,3) is a 1/2 gap, while it's not. fixed all this kind of spacing in the part
The song repeats itself a lot and so does the map (which is good, in a way), so what I pointed out above applies to a lot of different spots across the whole diff

The main problem with this map is the overuse of 1/4 that are nowhere to be found in the song, whether it be in the Hard or in the Collab.
abused or not, that's something rather subjective, as long as those beats do exisit in the music. like it or not, that's something even more subjective, without the diff spread issue, I hope this whole set is better-rankable now and would NOT be unranked again
don't kd this
thank you for your suggestions of course

Sharlo wrote:

一直掉线没法IRC啊orz

[Normal]
  1. 00:11:038 (1) - 这里你不用抓嘉文问了 嘉文对抓spinner这件时间简直情有独钟
    我的图就是因为这样被要求re的 我觉得去掉了也不好 跟Easy一样的结束时间比较好呢 统统美丽
  2. 00:15:449 (3) - 唔这里怎么听都觉得很奇怪 建议是折返一下跟vocal 嘛 因为跟伴奏的 感觉跟vocal的话1/2的节奏会太密
  3. 00:55:155 (1) - 这边的spinner去掉 在00:56:037 - 加一个1/1的折返滑条 嗯spinner几个都改了
  4. 01:09:052 (3) - Remove 总觉得01:08:170 - 这里才应该加note呢 偶像书得很对！我一开始做的时候类似的地方都加了note的 然后做完发现2.26星……美丽 只好删了一下降到2.25 不然怕又要被教做人
  5. 01:42:802 (1) - 这里节奏对不上啊喂……怎么看都很违和
  6. 01:48:317 (3,4) - 也是十分违和……不介意的话都去掉吧【逃
  7. 01:49:861 (1) - 也是十分牵强
  8. 01:57:582 (2) - 考虑1/2来回滑条妈 关系不大
  9. 02:05:743 (1) - 同上
  10. 02:19:640 (3) - 同上
  11. 02:51:405 - 加个圈?
歌好治愈就是BG不萌哭了 求萌bg
谢谢偶像~
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