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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2014年10月26日 星期日 at 22:52:05

Artist: livetune adding Takuro Sugawara(from 9mm Parabellum Bullet)
Title: SEN NO TSUBASA
Source: Re:␣ ハマトラ
Tags: リプライハマトラ REPLY HAMATORA kz 菅原卓郎 Pokie KantoKun opening
BPM: 170
Filesize: 15563kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.55 stars, 83 notes)
  2. Insane (4.66 stars, 513 notes)
  3. Kanto's Hard (3.22 stars, 270 notes)
  4. Normal (2.27 stars, 146 notes)
  5. Pokie's Insane (4.52 stars, 415 notes)
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Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#69

kz*8
Hard - KantoKun
Insane - Pokie
KantoKun
OK finish ^^

SPOILER
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[Metadata]
Title:Sen no Tsubasa
TitleUnicode:千の翼
Artist:livetune adding Takuro Sugawara(from 9mm Parabellum Bullet)
ArtistUnicode:livetune adding Takuro Sugawara(from 9mm Parabellum Bullet)
Creator:No_Gu
Version:Kanto's Hard
Source:REPLY HAMATORA
Tags:kz 菅原卓郎 Re:␣ ハマトラ
BeatmapID:0
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396,199,64850,2,0,P|383:245|402:329,2,120,0|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
483,259,65556,5,0,0:0:0:0:
317,120,65820,1,8,0:0:0:0:
111,243,66085,2,0,L|31:239,2,80,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
207,251,66614,2,0,P|211:290|208:333,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
169,161,66967,6,0,P|163:98|176:37,2,120,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,251,67673,2,0,L|371:261,1,160,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
367,260,68203,1,0,0:0:0:0:
435,193,68379,6,0,P|441:130|428:69,2,120,4|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
367,260,69085,2,0,L|208:251,1,160,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
223,348,69614,1,0,0:0:0:0:
223,348,69791,6,0,L|347:357,1,120,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
468,269,70320,1,0,0:0:0:0:
468,269,70497,2,0,P|477:222|466:141,1,120,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
459,126,70850,2,0,P|453:80|459:38,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
359,86,71203,6,0,P|296:98|216:43,1,160,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
139,106,71732,2,0,L|57:110,1,80
104,200,72085,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,200,72262,2,0,P|109:239|106:279,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
54,357,72614,6,0,P|116:310|194:319,1,160,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
285,353,73144,1,0,0:0:0:0:
285,353,73320,2,0,L|446:345,1,160,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
444,345,74026,6,0,P|471:260|434:173,1,160,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
417,98,74556,2,0,P|408:53|417:6,1,80,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
307,86,74909,2,0,P|263:91|225:83,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,194,75262,2,0,P|282:239|276:280,1,80
147,307,75791,5,0,0:0:0:0:
147,307,76144,1,0,0:0:0:0:
147,307,76497,1,0,0:0:0:0:
22,342,76850,5,4,0:0:0:0:
108,304,77026,2,0,L|151:308,2,40,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
235,269,77379,2,0,L|278:273,2,40,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
362,234,77732,2,0,L|405:238,2,40,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
489,200,78085,1,0,0:0:0:0:
489,200,78173,1,0,0:0:0:0:
489,200,78261,6,0,P|496:153|487:108,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
483,100,78526,1,0,0:0:0:0:
474,80,78614,2,0,P|467:33|476:-12,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
446,13,78879,1,0,0:0:0:0:
446,13,78967,2,0,L|360:8,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
285,64,79320,2,0,L|199:59,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,115,79673,6,0,L|38:110,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,136,79938,1,0,0:0:0:0:
60,136,80026,2,0,P|67:175|63:214,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
139,363,80379,2,0,P|132:316|141:271,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
151,261,80644,1,0,0:0:0:0:
151,261,80732,1,8,0:0:0:0:
311,320,80908,2,0,L|219:325,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
376,247,81261,6,0,L|422:244,2,40,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
307,175,81614,2,0,L|346:150,2,40,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
212,147,81967,2,0,L|233:106,2,40,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,170,82320,2,0,L|114:124,2,40,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
45,237,82673,5,0,0:0:0:0:
45,237,82761,1,0,0:0:0:0:
45,237,82850,2,0,L|50:329,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
73,344,83114,1,0,0:0:0:0:
73,344,83202,2,0,P|114:347|156:335,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,345,83467,1,0,0:0:0:0:
181,345,83555,2,0,P|221:341|260:351,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
350,314,83908,6,0,L|438:318,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
430,317,84173,1,0,0:0:0:0:
430,317,84261,1,8,0:0:0:0:
398,218,84438,2,0,L|310:214,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
351,119,84791,1,0,0:0:0:0:
351,119,84879,1,0,0:0:0:0:
351,119,84968,2,0,L|431:122,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,140,85320,6,0,P|249:98|254:55,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
186,214,85673,2,0,P|190:253|187:293,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
173,316,85938,1,0,0:0:0:0:
173,316,86026,2,0,L|121:313,3,40,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,329,86379,2,0,L|56:326,3,40,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
41,342,86732,5,8,0:0:0:0:
2,149,87085,1,0,0:0:0:0:
2,149,87438,1,0,0:0:0:0:
2,149,87791,1,0,0:0:0:0:
186,214,88144,5,4,0:0:0:0:
Broccoly
m4m

[General]
- widescreen support and letterbox conflict with Hard diff
- tag gd mappers

[Insane]
00:07:938 (2) - ctrl+G? Right now the distance suddenly increases and the jump obscures the rhythm
00:11:467 (6) - same. 00:11:203 (5,6) - this jump is big so i move cursor fast but 00:11:467 (6,7) - here is an awkward slowdown of the cursor when playing. so ctrl + g like above?
00:14:644 (10) - Above two it's ok if you don't change it, but I strongly suggest u decrease the jump here.
00:53:556 (4,5,6,7) - larger distance?
01:28:144 (1) - spinner? (same for normal and easy)

rly nice

[wpcap's Insane]
00:08:026 (2,8,5,1) - random uses of 3/4 sliders. If you're gonna use them, use it within a rhythmic pattern. If you used it on the 2nd beat of the 4 beats, repeat that coherently. Not using it on the 3rd or 4th beat in the next stanza.
00:28:850 (1) - why speedup? If you did this here, then you should speedup 00:31:673 (1) - 00:34:497 (1) - 00:37:320 (1) - all of these.
00:49:938 (6,1) - I won't do this if I were you... but up to you
01:27:791 (1,2) - I would use another shape.. maybe try this.

good potential

[kanto's hard]
01:05:556 (1,2,3) - Wrong emphasis of the music imo.. suddenly really big jump but the music's not at the climax. 01:06:967 (1) - This is where the circle jumps should be because that's the climax.
01:16:497 (3,2) - 3 might hinder 2's repeat arrow. I'd take caution there as it can be unrankable

very nice

[Normal]
00:09:085 (1,3) - stack
00:18:967 (3,4,5) - 00:21:085 (2,3,4) - 00:33:614 (4,5,1) - I personally think these jumps are kinda hard for Normal.

little hard for a normal but good

[Easy]
You forgot to NC the beginning
00:21:791 (2,1) - better blanket
00:36:262 (4,1) - ^

Good mapset :)
hope this helps a bit
gl
-Nya-
Hey! M4M from your modding queue.
I only modded your Easy, Normal and Hard, since the other diffs are too hard for me to mod.
Well, here's my mod:

Easy:
1) Check AiMod (Ctrl+Shift+A)~ One DS issue and the letterbox conflicts.
2) 00:00:615- 00:17:203~ This combo is way too long. Your combos may not be longer than, I'll say 10 in an Easy diff.
Here is two NC suggestions:
00:06:262~ NC
00:11:909~ NC
3) 00:03:438 and 00:04:850~ Blanket? Like this:
4) 00:33:085~ Lower this slider a bit to X:375 Y:109
5) 01:01:320~ Maybe change this slider to look like this:
6) 01:14:026~ Remove NC?
I didn't see any other issues. Nice diff.

Normal:
1) Check AiMod again.
2) 00:10:144~ Stack this slider properly on this hitcircle: 00:09:085. There won't be a DS issue if you do this.
3) 00:39:438~ NC maybe?
4) 01:26:732~ NC here?
5) 01:18:967~ You can stack this slider's tail on this hitcircle: 01:17:556. There will be no DS problem.

No other problems found. Great diff!

Kanto's Hard:
1) Check AiMod (Ctrl+Shift+A)
2) 00:17:556~ Stack this slider on this slider: 00:16:673.
3) 00:31:497~ Also stack this hitcircle on this slider: 00:30:614.
4) 00:35:556~ Blanket this slider by moving it a bit upwards to X:304 Y:302.
5) 01:00:967~ Straighten this slider to compliment this slider: 01:00:438.
6) 01:28:320~ Add spinner here?

Also nice diff.

Great mapset!
Good Luck! :D
xxdeathx
hi, m4m from your queue 3rd time lol

[General]
  1. http://myanimelist.net/anime/23421/Re:%E2%90%A3Hamatora has official title as Re:␣Hamatora so use that for source and add reply hamatora to tags
[Easy]
  1. no new combos in beginning? 00:03:438 (3) - 00:06:262 (6) - 00:09:173 (10) - 00:11:909 (14) - 00:14:732 (18) -
  2. 00:17:203 (20,1) - fix blanket, it's too far in the middle
  3. 00:31:673 (1,2) - fix this blanket too
  4. 00:34:850 (2) - drag second slider point to 140, 256 and red point to 160, 200 for better blanket
  5. 00:36:262 (4,1) - copy/paste again from ^
  6. 00:55:673 (2,3) - this rhythm follows music better http://puu.sh/aDkVn/dea2cbe8da.png
  7. 00:56:556 (3,1,2) - i think this section should copy 01:08:379 (1,2,1) - because that rhythm is more accurate
  8. 01:11:203 (1) - this follows vocals better http://puu.sh/aDl63/9b65bc4f07.png
[Normal]
  1. 00:01:497 (2,3) - blanket is a little close in the middle
  2. 00:02:908 (4,1) - ^
  3. 00:59:909 (1,2,3) - i think you got the rhythm mixed up. it goes like http://puu.sh/aDkqS/ca79441345.png
  4. 01:07:673 (5) - add clap on slider head sounds cooler
[Hard]
  1. 00:22:056 (1,2) - stack fully?
  2. 00:51:438 (1) - parts like these are using 3/4 so you actually want to map 00:51:703 because there's nothing on the white tick. use a 3/4 repeating slider like 00:52:850 (1) - or a 3/4 slider followed by another object like 00:54:262 (1,2) -
  3. 00:55:673 (1) - 00:57:085 (1) - 00:58:497 (1) - 01:02:732 (1) - ^
  4. 01:02:379 (3,4) - two 1/4 sliders in a row is too hard to read imo, maybe replace with repeating 1/4 slider
  5. 01:04:850 (3,1) - nazi blanket too close in middle
[wpcap's insane]
  1. check AIMod for offscreen objects
  2. 00:22:497 (3,4,5,6,7) - 00:28:144 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:33:791 (3,4,5,6,7) - decide on a consistent usage of either straight 5 note streams or back and forth
  3. 00:27:791 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - don't space them apart if the stream comes right after the slider, looks like 1/2 beat
  4. 00:49:497 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - same here, keep everything the same distance
  5. 00:54:614 (2) - ctrl-g this and 00:54:967 (3) - for better flow
  6. 00:57:791 (3) - ^ same
  7. 01:09:791 (1,2) - nazi blanket
  8. 01:12:614 (1,2) - i think moving (2) here plays better http://puu.sh/aDjo2/4419a53e3b.png
  9. 01:22:850 (2,4) - can blanket these
  10. 01:27:438 (1,1) - ^
[Insane]
  1. 00:16:673 (15) - suggest NC because HP drain is high
  2. 00:28:850 (1,2) - ctrl-g for better flow and distance snap, also not exactly stacked with 00:27:614 (2,3)
  3. 01:12:614 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl-h flows a lot better
  4. 01:14:026 (1) - ctrl-g flows better
  5. 01:28:232 - why new timing section when there's no note?
good luck~

also what's livetune adding... and how come most of your recent maps have that artist?
Black Abyss
Hi, you might want to use this MP3, it's a bit louder and of a better quality but that might just be me ~
Topic Starter
No_Gu
changed new mp3 and update.sry I don't have time to reply

@xxdeathx : kz(livetune) is a composer and arranger.He began to be known for his Vocaloid works."livetune adding" is his real vocal project.He is my favorite coposer and arranger.that's why I mapped a lot

edit:up'd pokie's
Pokie

Broccoly wrote:

[wpcap's Insane]
00:08:026 (2,8,5,1) - random uses of 3/4 sliders. If you're gonna use them, use it within a rhythmic pattern. If you used it on the 2nd beat of the 4 beats, repeat that coherently. Not using it on the 3rd or 4th beat in the next stanza.
Removed most 3/4 sliders
00:28:850 (1) - why speedup? If you did this here, then you should speedup 00:31:673 (1) - 00:34:497 (1) - 00:37:320 (1) - all of these.
:? Kind of signal to show I'm speeding up all the elements from 00:28:770 - , I'd rather choose to keep it for now. Hehe
00:49:938 (6,1) - I won't do this if I were you... but up to you
I know, I know...
01:27:791 (1,2) - I would use another shape.. maybe try this.
Changed the entire part :D

good potential
huehuehue :oops: Please teach me how to mapping!

xxdeathx wrote:

[wpcap's insane]
  1. check AIMod for offscreen objects
    Okie
  2. 00:22:497 (3,4,5,6,7) - 00:28:144 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:33:791 (3,4,5,6,7) - decide on a consistent usage of either straight 5 note streams or back and forth
    ...Eh xD? Indeed these are 5 notes streams, but they're still different in the background music!
  3. 00:27:791 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - don't space them apart if the stream comes right after the slider, looks like 1/2 beat
    Still waiting player's feedback
  4. 00:49:497 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - same here, keep everything the same distance
    ^
  5. 00:54:614 (2) - ctrl-g this and 00:54:967 (3) - for better flow
  6. 00:57:791 (3) - ^ same
    ...I thought this would be more funny to have different type of 3/4 sliders Dx
  7. 01:09:791 (1,2) - nazi blanket
    O..okay? (I didn't find this due to the offset changes)
  8. 01:12:614 (1,2) - i think moving (2) here plays better http://puu.sh/aDjo2/4419a53e3b.png
    I'm afraid about stacking problems, will keep this in mind!
  9. 01:22:850 (2,4) - can blanket these
  10. 01:27:438 (1,1) - ^
    Okay for these two
Broccoly
wait waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat ?!????!?

edit: hey no_gu check the timing. I think something went wrong when you updated
Topic Starter
No_Gu

Broccoly wrote:

wait waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat ?!????!?

edit: hey no_gu check the timing. I think something went wrong when you updated
i changed MP3...anyway reupdated
Atsuro
Hi!
Mod request from PM
This is my second mod, only some small suggestions

Insane
  1. 00:54:534 (3) - This slider doesn't flow nice, you can improve it.
  2. 01:22:946 (4,5) - This part is confusing, use another repeat slider or something
Normal
  1. 00:39:005 (5,6,7,8) - Too much of a difficulty spike, i think it will be hard for normal players to react to that
  2. 00:30:358 (5,1) - The blanket can be better
Short mod o.o
I really can't find anything more, the mapset is great! :)
Good luck
Topic Starter
No_Gu

atsuro0 wrote:

Hi!
Mod request from PM
This is my second mod, only some small suggestions

Insane
  1. 00:54:534 (3) - This slider doesn't flow nice, you can improve it.don't think so
  2. 01:22:946 (4,5) - This part is confusing, use another repeat slider or somethinghmmm will consider if someone points again
Normal
  1. 00:39:005 (5,6,7,8) - Too much of a difficulty spike, i think it will be hard for normal players to react to thathmmm.. seems a little..I'll consider
  2. 00:30:358 (5,1) - The blanket can be betterk
Short mod o.o
I really can't find anything more, the mapset is great! :)
Good luck
smallboat
之前忙 稍微耽誤了些

[General]

Fine.

[Easy]

00:51:005 (1) - 忘記finish? (因為其他2個diff都有加)
01:02:299 (1) - ^
01:13:770 (1) - ^
01:24:888 (1) - 尾端似乎能加finish.

00:55:240 (2,3,1,2) - 要不要跟後面一樣跟白線? 如果這樣跟我覺得如果玩HD會不太好掌握。

[Normal] Aimod有個未對齊物件。 (好難的Normal)

01:17:123 (1) - 去掉,從 01:16:770 (1) 開始加個1/1 slider?
01:25:593 (3) - 似乎能加finish.

[Kanto's Hard] Aimod有個未對齊物件。 (CS或許能用 3.5 ? 4感覺有點太小了。(個人是覺得4用在Ins diff比較好))

00:33:181 (2) - 不加一個note跟vocal? 這裡感覺玩的不順暢。
01:02:123 (4) - 移到(96|256),然後ctrl+g? 現在這樣有點擠。
01:11:299 (2) - 或許能ctrl+g

(後面01:16:417 (1) 看得出來是用複製的,確定沒問題?)

[Insane]

00:33:534 (6) - 或許能疊好
01:13:593 (1) - Missed finish.
01:25:593 (5) - 似乎能加finish.

[Pokie's Insane]

Nothing ~ !




祝rank。
Topic Starter
No_Gu

smallboat wrote:

之前忙 稍微耽誤了些

[General]

Fine.

[Easy]

00:51:005 (1) - 忘記finish? (因為其他2個diff都有加)k
01:02:299 (1) - ^k
01:13:770 (1) - ^k
01:24:888 (1) - 尾端似乎能加finish.没有镲啊

00:55:240 (2,3,1,2) - 要不要跟後面一樣跟白線? 如果這樣跟我覺得如果玩HD會不太好掌握。这边本来是想稍微弄点变化出来,但是弄了一下就收不回来了,不过反正都是1/1不会很难打的

[Normal] Aimod有個未對齊物件。 (好難的Normal)习惯了。。我N不少都这样

01:17:123 (1) - 去掉,從 01:16:770 (1) 開始加個1/1 slider?这BPM估计会被说离spinner太近,我也不想空那个
01:25:593 (3) - 似乎能加finish.没镲

[Kanto's Hard] Aimod有個未對齊物件。 (CS或許能用 3.5 ? 4感覺有點太小了。(個人是覺得4用在Ins diff比較好))

00:33:181 (2) - 不加一個note跟vocal? 這裡感覺玩的不順暢。
01:02:123 (4) - 移到(96|256),然後ctrl+g? 現在這樣有點擠。
01:11:299 (2) - 或許能ctrl+g

(後面01:16:417 (1) 看得出來是用複製的,確定沒問題?)
Kanto这个好像得用英文写一下。。
[Insane]

00:33:534 (6) - 或許能疊好虽然差不多还是修了下
01:13:593 (1) - Missed finish. 没镲吧。。
01:25:593 (5) - 似乎能加finish.^


祝rank。
谢谢/
Mafumafu
Hi! :) No_Gu!~ Sorry for keeping you waiting for so long!

•This is Regraz's mod. Note that I am rather new to modding/mapping, so I am sorry if this cannot provide real help.
This color means things that I highly suggest. But all the mods are just ideas, feel free to deny these because as to mapping, we need various ideas, right?
•If I end an entry of my mod by a "?", that means I am waiting for your advice, that is just an attempt or my own idea.

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The 0002 map modded since using the new modding framwork. (Dont care about this number , it is just used to remind me the number of maps I've modded.)

General and Song Setup

1. Uncheck widescreen support and letterbox during breaks in Kanto's diff.

Easy


Overall:
Very good diff, and the patterns are great. I can hardly find problems.

Rhythm:
1. 00:45:358 (1) - Maybe bettr if you replace this spinner with notes?
2. 00:55:240 (2,3) - Doesnt fit the vocal much. Why not continue using the reverse slider? You can even create symmetrical patterns if you continue using the reverse slider. If you dont want to go on using the reverse sliders, then I think notes that you placed at 01:06:534 (2,3,1,2) - are better.
3. 00:57:534 (1,2) - ^ The vocal are on the reverse point of 00:57:534 (1) - ,which sounds a little weird here. Also a vocal is placed on the end of 00:58:946 (2) - , which sounds a little weird, too.

Flow and Layout:
1. 00:15:358 (2) - A straight slider seems better for the flow here. http://puu.sh/aUeI3/0b5fdb4ead.jpg
2. 00:16:770 (3,1) - If you adjst the blanket a little, it will be better imo. But if you are intended, then keep it, it's fine though.
3. 00:31:240 (1,2) - ^
4. 00:37:240 (2) - Why not create a little curve? http://puu.sh/aUdPS/a5d8dcc8ab.jpg Trying to put the curve at the vocal point, and you can emphasize or embody the vocal. Also it is better for the flow.
5. 01:23:476 (3) - Better if you can make a little curve? http://puu.sh/aUer2/c89524075e.jpg

Hitsounds:
1. 00:00:182 (1,2,1,2,3) - The slidertick sounds weird in this part. Try to do sth to prevent sliderticks from being heard.
2. 00:00:182 (1,2,1) - Add clap at the end of every slider to keep consistent with 00:05:476 (3) - ?
3. 00:05:829 (1) - Why using 25% volumn here?
4. 00:43:240 (1,2,3) - Why not continue using the custom hitsounds you use in the previous section?
5. 01:26:299 (3,4) - Add finish on slider head?

Other issues:
None

Normal


Overall: SV is a little fast, seems a little difficult as a Normal

Rhythm:
1. 00:39:005 (5,6,7,8) - Consider combine them into sliders, newbie players cannot react so fast and their apm is low.
2. 00:59:476 (1,2) - Better if you flow the vocal.

Flow and Layout:
None, just think the patterns are not as neat as Easy's

Hitsounds:
1. 00:33:887 (5) - Little weird, if you want to keep it, then add the same thing at 00:22:593 (6) -

Other issues:
None

Kanto's Hard

Overall: Very impressive diff, interesting to play with. Nice indeed.
Rhythm:
Fine
Flow and Layout:
1. 00:07:593 (3,4,5) - These notes touch the Health Bar at the top of the screen, consider changing their places.
2. 00:37:946 (4,1) - Fix this blanket? http://puu.sh/aUGgf/ee65bd408a.jpg
3. 01:13:593 (1) - Move to 445|345 for a perfect stack
4. 01:16:593 (2) - Dont hide reverse arrow under notes like this in Hard diff. They are hard to read because this is Hard not Insane or Extra.
Hitsounds:
1. 00:00:887 (4,4,4) - Maybe you can add claps on the end of the slider.
Other issues:
None

Pokie's Insane

Overall: Love the diff! Pokie you are so professional! :3
Rhythm:
1. 00:43:417 (4) - Change into triplet here?
Flow and Layout:
1. 00:12:534 (2,1) - Flow a little incomfortable imo.
2. 00:31:593 (2) - Maybe Ctrl+G? http://puu.sh/aUKMq/1b5751ce30.jpg
3. 00:38:299 (1,1) - Better if you fix this blanket.
Hitsounds:
1. 00:01:240 (2,2,2) - Clap?
2. 01:15:358 (2,3) - Add Clap to be consistent with 00:49:946 (2,1,2) - .
Other issues:
1. 01:27:711 (2) - NC?

Insane

Overall: Nice, apparently it is your style ;). Very good so I cannot say much, so I dont categorize them.
00:01:240 (10,10,10) - Clap?
00:34:770 (3,4,5,6,7) - DS is a little (just a little) large imo.
00:48:534 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - Not very beautiful imo.
00:49:946 (4,5,6) - Clap at ever note to emphasize the vocal?
01:15:358 (2,3,4) - ^

•That's all.
•In general, this map is very very professional and recreational to play! Both the song and the map are well done!
•Finally, good luck on ranking! :)
Ace3DF
Great map. Possible to rework the start:
00:00:182 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - The yellows are too close to each other and the same placement as the next colour(combo) starts feels terrible.
Other than that part It's really good
Topic Starter
No_Gu
SPOILER

Regraz wrote:

Hi! :) No_Gu!~ Sorry for keeping you waiting for so long!

•This is Regraz's mod. Note that I am rather new to modding/mapping, so I am sorry if this cannot provide real help.
This color means things that I highly suggest. But all the mods are just ideas, feel free to deny these because as to mapping, we need various ideas, right?
•If I end an entry of my mod by a "?", that means I am waiting for your advice, that is just an attempt or my own idea.

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The 0002 map modded since using the new modding framwork. (Dont care about this number , it is just used to remind me the number of maps I've modded.)

General and Song Setup

1. Uncheck widescreen support and letterbox during breaks in Kanto's diff.

Easy


Overall:
Very good diff, and the patterns are great. I can hardly find problems.

Rhythm:
1. 00:45:358 (1) - Maybe bettr if you replace this spinner with notes?懒 正好还能降星
2. 00:55:240 (2,3) - Doesnt fit the vocal much. Why not continue using the reverse slider? You can even create symmetrical patterns if you continue using the reverse slider. If you dont want to go on using the reverse sliders, then I think notes that you placed at 01:06:534 (2,3,1,2) - are better.本身其实也不是要跟vocal的。。这里只是想做点变化但是改完之后发现后面回不来了就这样了。。
3. 00:57:534 (1,2) - ^ The vocal are on the reverse point of 00:57:534 (1) - ,which sounds a little weird here. Also a vocal is placed on the end of 00:58:946 (2) - , which sounds a little weird, too.^

Flow and Layout:
1. 00:15:358 (2) - A straight slider seems better for the flow here. http://puu.sh/aUeI3/0b5fdb4ead.jpg kkkk
2. 00:16:770 (3,1) - If you adjst the blanket a little, it will be better imo. But if you are intended, then keep it, it's fine though.一直懒的修也不太会修这些。。
3. 00:31:240 (1,2) - ^^
4. 00:37:240 (2) - Why not create a little curve? http://puu.sh/aUdPS/a5d8dcc8ab.jpg Trying to put the curve at the vocal point, and you can emphasize or embody the vocal. Also it is better for the flow.我觉得问题不大。。本身也不是为了跟vocal的
5. 01:23:476 (3) - Better if you can make a little curve? http://puu.sh/aUer2/c89524075e.jpg^

Hitsounds:
1. 00:00:182 (1,2,1,2,3) - The slidertick sounds weird in this part. Try to do sth to prevent sliderticks from being heard.k
2. 00:00:182 (1,2,1) - Add clap at the end of every slider to keep consistent with 00:05:476 (3) - ?音乐里没有
3. 00:05:829 (1) - Why using 25% volumn here?算是营造气氛吧。。
4. 00:43:240 (1,2,3) - Why not continue using the custom hitsounds you use in the previous section?跟上面差不多 别的diffnote多应该听着更好点
5. 01:26:299 (3,4) - Add finish on slider head?音乐没有

Other issues:
None

Normal


Overall: SV is a little fast, seems a little difficult as a Normal 我这个SV习惯了其实。。

Rhythm:
1. 00:39:005 (5,6,7,8) - Consider combine them into sliders, newbie players cannot react so fast and their apm is low.恩。。原来也有人提过改下好了
2. 00:59:476 (1,2) - Better if you flow the vocal.不想跟vocal。。

Flow and Layout:
None, just think the patterns are not as neat as Easy's

Hitsounds:
1. 00:33:887 (5) - Little weird, if you want to keep it, then add the same thing at 00:22:593 (6) - 这里确实是我忘记加了。。

Other issues:
None

Insane

Overall: Nice, apparently it is your style ;). Very good so I cannot say much, so I dont categorize them.
00:01:240 (10,10,10) - Clap?其实准确来说应该是除了这几个note加clap比较合适。。但是这个clap还不太适合加上略蛋疼就不加了
00:34:770 (3,4,5,6,7) - DS is a little (just a little) large imo.问题不大吧。有不overlap的不是比这还大。。
00:48:534 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - Not very beautiful imo.小调一下吧
00:49:946 (4,5,6) - Clap at ever note to emphasize the vocal?不跟vocal不跟vocal不跟vocal
01:15:358 (2,3,4) - ^^

•That's all.
•In general, this map is very very professional and recreational to play! Both the song and the map are well done!
•Finally, good luck on ranking! :)
SPOILER

Ace3DF wrote:

Great map. Possible to rework the start:
00:00:182 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - The yellows are too close to each other and the same placement as the next colour(combo) starts feels terrible.in fact if I don't do so there won't be enough space.and the present is not bad imo
Other than that part It's really good
thx
Pokie

Regraz wrote:

Pokie's Insane

Overall: Love the diff! Pokie you are so professional! :3
感謝你<(_ _)> 雖然只是一張排版凌亂的量產圖
Rhythm:
1. 00:43:417 (4) - Change into triplet here?
唔…想突顯和前一小節裡緊湊的節拍之間的差距, 所以刻意減少了1/4
Flow and Layout:
1. 00:12:534 (2,1) - Flow a little incomfortable imo.
...以我自己來說暫時想不出有什麼能夠代替的pattern, 不知道你能夠提供一個更好的建議嗎?
2. 00:31:593 (2) - Maybe Ctrl+G? http://puu.sh/aUKMq/1b5751ce30.jpg
坑人的梗打算全部留到kiai爆發用, 保留一下!

3. 00:38:299 (1,1) - Better if you fix this blanket.
噢噢好的
Hitsounds:
1. 00:01:240 (2,2,2) - Clap?
起初這段應該用不上clap
2. 01:15:358 (2,3) - Add Clap to be consistent with 00:49:946 (2,1,2) - .

Other issues:
1. 01:27:711 (2) - NC?
總感覺有點別扭不過還是改了一下
原來是在練習英文modding, 加油 \:D/



http://puu.sh/b0G4L/df1641b44d.osu
KittensScythe
Great mapset! I hope it gets ranked :D I played through hard and insane with no problems, no delay and seemed to be timed really well.
Good luck! :)
Satellite


Red : Unrankable issue / must fix.
Bold : Should be fixed / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.


[General]
  1. Only Kanto's Hard. Remove check "LetterboxInBreaks" and "WidescreenStoryboard"
  2. Source : Re: ␣ ハマトラ (I talked in "JMT")
  3. Add "opening" to tag. Remove "Re:␣ ハマトラ" to tag.
  4. Remove "soft-hitclap" wav file? I can't find use this wav file.. Please teach me Dx
[Easy]
  1. OD+1. For mapset balance.
  2. 00:05:829 (1) - I think slider head "finish" much. (Same as other diff.)
  3. 00:27:005 (2,3,1,2,1,2,1) - Please clean Blanket more and Distance. Try this code.
    368,48,27005,2,8,P|320:40|272:48,1,80
    212,100,27711,2,8,P|164:108|116:100,1,80
    72,30,28417,6,8,P|48:140|144:200,1,240,4|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    144,296,29829,2,8,B|208:296|256:336|256:336|296:296|368:296,1,240
    368,200,31240,6,8,P|460:148|436:28,1,240
    376,104,32652,2,8,L|136:104,1,240
    64,168,34064,5,8,0:0:0:0:
  4. 00:39:711 (1,1) - Too soon after a spinner. It definitely doesn't give players enough recovery. Please check new rule this forum. https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/241019
  5. 00:50:652 (1) - Remove note better. Much Break is necessary for Easy diff.
  6. 00:55:240 (2,3,1,2) - This rhythm is kind of questionable for me. More better rhythm,follow with lyrics,like this.
  7. 01:13:770 (1,1) - Same as 00:39:711 (1,1) -
[Normal]
  1. Should be change AR5. Please check wiki. https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Normal
[Kanto's Hard]
  1. Hi Kanto :3 Try AR7.5. for mapset balance. and HP-1
  2. 00:03:710 (4) - Unsnapped on slider end.
  3. 00:16:770 (5) - Remove whistle. Changed clap better on slider head.
  4. 00:41:829 (1) - Remove NC.
  5. 01:01:946 (3,4) - Is too harder about Hard diff. Please simplify it more.
  6. 01:16:593 (2) - Slider end hide and am hard to look. Please changed other pattern.
[Pokie's Insane]
  1. Hi Pokie =w= Please change OD-1 ? for mapset balance...
  2. 00:22:593 (8) - Add "Sampleset : N" and clap on slider head.
  3. 00:33:887 (8) - Same as above.
[Insane]
  1. Nothing to Say. Awesome diff :3
Call me Back ~
Topic Starter
No_Gu
after discussing about spinner.fix all for my diffs
wait for kanto and pokie
KantoKun

Satellite wrote:



Red : Unrankable issue / must fix.
Bold : Should be fixed / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.


[General]
  1. Only Kanto's Hard. Remove check "LetterboxInBreaks" and "WidescreenStoryboard"
  2. Source : Re: ␣ ハマトラ (I talked in "JMT")
  3. Add "opening" to tag. Remove "Re:␣ ハマトラ" to tag.
  4. Remove "soft-hitclap" wav file? I can't find use this wav file.. Please teach me Dx
[Kanto's Hard]
  1. Hi Kanto :3 Try AR7.5. for mapset balance. and HP-1 fixed <3
  2. 00:03:710 (4) - Unsnapped on slider end. oh i miss :>
  3. 00:16:770 (5) - Remove whistle. Changed clap better on slider head. yeah
  4. 00:41:829 (1) - Remove NC. fixed 0.0
  5. 01:01:946 (3,4) - Is too harder about Hard diff. Please simplify it more. change to new pattern
  6. 01:16:593 (2) - Slider end hide and am hard to look. Please changed other pattern. in edit mode is hard to see but , on real play is look fine
Call me Back ~
and very sorry for old modding , i'm not fix it becuase it was old offset , i can't read them... ;___;

SPOILER
osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Sen no Tsubasa.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 51005
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Sen no Tsubasa
TitleUnicode:千の翼
Artist:livetune adding Takuro Sugawara(from 9mm Parabellum Bullet)
ArtistUnicode:livetune adding Takuro Sugawara(from 9mm Parabellum Bullet)
Creator:No_Gu
Version:Kanto's Hard
Source:Re:␣ ハマトラ
Tags:リプライハマトラ REPLY HAMATORA kz 菅原卓郎 Pokie KantoKun opening
BeatmapID:471418
BeatmapSetID:191241

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:7.5
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"bg_top.png",0,0
Video,44,"video.avi"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
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87799,-100,4,2,1,5,0,0


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Combo2 : 255,255,128
Combo3 : 128,255,255
Combo4 : 255,128,128

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Satellite

KantoKun wrote:

in edit mode is hard to see but , on real play is look fine
I'm playing (test play) hard to see lol omg Do you want to keep ? D:
MMzz
9mm Parabellum Bullet *0*
KantoKun
OK change :3

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388,274,77476,1,8,0:0:0:0:
477,319,77652,1,0,0:0:0:0:
477,319,77740,1,0,0:0:0:0:
477,319,77828,6,0,P|484:272|475:227,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
471,219,78093,1,0,0:0:0:0:
462,199,78181,2,0,P|455:152|464:107,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
434,132,78446,1,0,0:0:0:0:
434,132,78534,2,0,L|348:127,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
285,64,78887,2,0,L|199:59,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,115,79240,6,0,L|38:110,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,136,79505,1,0,0:0:0:0:
60,136,79593,2,0,P|67:175|63:214,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
139,363,79946,2,0,P|132:316|141:271,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
151,261,80211,1,0,0:0:0:0:
151,261,80299,1,8,0:0:0:0:
311,320,80475,2,0,L|219:325,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
376,247,80828,6,0,L|422:244,2,40,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
307,175,81181,2,0,L|346:150,2,40,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
212,147,81534,2,0,L|233:106,2,40,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,170,81887,2,0,L|114:124,2,40,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
45,237,82240,5,0,0:0:0:0:
45,237,82328,1,0,0:0:0:0:
45,237,82417,2,0,L|50:329,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
73,344,82681,1,0,0:0:0:0:
73,344,82769,2,0,P|114:347|156:335,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,345,83034,1,0,0:0:0:0:
181,345,83122,2,0,P|221:341|260:351,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
350,314,83475,6,0,L|438:318,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
430,317,83740,1,0,0:0:0:0:
430,317,83828,1,8,0:0:0:0:
398,218,84005,2,0,L|310:214,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
351,119,84358,1,0,0:0:0:0:
351,119,84446,1,0,0:0:0:0:
351,119,84535,2,0,L|431:122,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,140,84887,6,0,P|249:98|254:55,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
186,214,85240,2,0,P|190:253|187:293,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
173,316,85505,1,0,0:0:0:0:
173,316,85593,2,0,L|121:313,3,40,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,329,85946,2,0,L|56:326,3,40,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
41,342,86299,5,8,0:0:0:0:
2,149,86652,1,0,0:0:0:0:
2,149,87005,1,0,0:0:0:0:
2,149,87358,1,0,0:0:0:0:
186,214,87711,5,4,0:0:0:0:
Pokie
ODの代わりにHPを調整しました
言い訳:Diff Spreadの方向から考えると、ODを減らす方が妥当ですが‥譜面の全体から見ると連打は少なめに入れたので、判定を更にヌルくにするのは微妙になると思う自分です。

Moddingに書かれた二箇所の他に、00:27:887 (4,7) - の連打もnormal sample setにしました!

http://puu.sh/bym6F/89b676c33b.osu

ご苦労様でした( ´∀`)
Topic Starter
No_Gu
update
Satellite
recheck

[General]
  1. Must be change source : "Re: ␣ ハマトラ" please copy D:
call me back again ><
Topic Starter
No_Gu

Satellite wrote:

recheck

[General]
  1. Must be change source : "Re: ␣ ハマトラ" please copy D:
call me back again ><
as we see,in the logo there is no space betwwen : and ␣
So I think Re:␣ ハマトラ is right
KSHR
We (JP staff) have discussed which one is the correct source, and decided to keep the current one as is.
However we still doubt if it's correct because even the official site shows both "Re: ␣ ハマトラ" and "Re:␣ ハマトラ".
Satellite
Thank you KSHR and JP staff :3

Recheck

[General]
  1. Normal -> Hard diff balance too bad. It is necessary to reduce some note.
[Kanto's Hard]
  1. Some remove note. and Yourself must correct it afterwards.
  2. 00:07:064 (5,6) - Remove note ? It is necessary to give a break.
  3. 00:07:858 (4) - Move 00:08:211 - here?
  4. 00:12:093 (4) - Remove note ?
  5. 00:19:770 (5,1) - There is too big Jump. 00:19:770 (5) - this note stack 00:19:240 (4) - slider end?
  6. 00:34:770 (3,4) - Same as above. Try this.
  7. 00:40:329 (4) - Remove note ?
  8. 00:55:240 (1) - Slider end 00:55:505 - here.
  9. 00:58:064 (1) - Slider end 00:58:329 - here? because Same as 01:09:358 (1) - this.
  10. 01:17:652 (9,10) - Remove note ? Same as 00:07:064 (5,6) -
  11. 01:22:681 (4) - Remove note.
Sorry ;__;
Call me back again...

Edit : 2014 9/16
IRC Log
01:53 Satellite: 01:18:446 (4) -
01:53 KantoKun: yes >.<!
01:53 Satellite: 01:18:799 - move here?
01:54 Satellite: and 01:16:593 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
01:54 Satellite: i think 00:05:829 (1,2,3,4) -
01:54 Satellite: same as point :D
01:54 Satellite: only this two lol
01:54 Satellite: What do you think ?
01:55 KantoKun: i think...
01:55 KantoKun: it's don't need to as same as?
01:56 Satellite: 01:16:593 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - a bit harder imo.
01:57 Satellite: http://puu.sh/bAbWG/ba962b20b5.jpg
01:57 Satellite: change easy rhythm ?
02:00 Satellite: and 01:18:446 (4,5,6) -
02:00 Satellite: Try same as rhythm
02:00 Satellite: 01:17:828 (1,2,3) -
02:00 Satellite: o.o
02:01 KantoKun: OK
02:01 Satellite: http://puu.sh/bAcd3/3e61593b2e.jpg
02:01 KantoKun: yes
02:01 KantoKun: i know
02:01 Satellite: A lot of breaks are necessary ;w;
Pokie
SPOILER


ほらアニメのスタッフだって適当に書いてるんだからどうだっていいやん、関係者に聞かない限りどっちが正しいなのかは解らないと思いますよ。

ごめんなさい、言葉遣いがヘタです!(´・ω:;.:...
KSHR

Pokie wrote:



ほらアニメのスタッフだって適当に書いてるんだからどうだっていいやん、関係者に聞かない限りどっちが正しいなのかは解らないと思いますよ。
そんなに怒んないで!


EDIT: Pokieさんを怒らせるようなことは特に何もしてないはずだけど、もし不快にさせちゃうことをしたのならごめんね
Melophobia

Pokie wrote:



ほらアニメのスタッフだって適当に書いてるんだからどうだっていいやん、関係者に聞かない限りどっちが正しいなのかは解らないと思いますよ。
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