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moonlightleaf
to Desperate-kun

oh,thank you for you explain,fix

to BeatofIke

thank you for modding ~ color -20, :) lol
BeatofIke
Let's give it a try!
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Sellenite
yeah
Topic Starter
moonlightleaf
ohoh ! thank you~~~ :)
jonathanlfj
lets see

[General]
add "Ritsuka Sumijun" to tags, she is the singer for this song
you need approachcircle.png and reversearrow.png to complete the hitcircle skin set, you can just grab it from the template skin if not planning to make custom ones

[Flan]
00:13:101 (1) - no need for NC here, this patter follows a continuous fade in the music
00:49:180 (5) - placing this here would flow better: 00:52:513 (6) - NC for musical emphasis
01:44:082 (4,5) - try ctrl+g on this, makes the patter more coherent
02:03:101 (11,12,1,2) - this is a bit hard to play, especially because the way you NCed it makes it more confusing to read. I would change these all to circles
02:15:454 (1) - you dont have to use the NC here since 02:15:062 (1,2) already hints at a tempo change (you could decrease their spacing as well to show the slow down)
02:27:611 (2) - clap on start
02:57:415 (2,3,4,5,6) - not sure why you put a stream here, there is no 1/4 in the music... remove 02:57:513 (3) and rearrange this pattern would do
03:00:944 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this looks a bit messy, you might want to give it more curve or just make it straight
03:32:905 (5,6,7,8) - a constant spacing or non-linear pattern would flow better here, i.e. 03:48:787 (1) - give it more curve so the blanket on 03:49:572 (3) looks more proper
03:54:474 (6,7) - more emphasis on this? if you do that dont forget NC
03:57:611 (4,5,6) - move this here: 04:02:513 (8) - clap on start
04:29:441 (8) - this part should be in 1/4: 04:35:748 (1) - ^
04:37:415 (6) - snap the end to 04:38:069, this one is 1/3
04:53:886 (5) - move a bit right for better blanket
05:04:082 (7) - one grid right to align with 05:03:493 (6)
05:15:454 (4) - clap start
05:23:297 (2) - ^
05:24:474 (1) - clap end
05:28:591 (5) - ^
05:32:317 (1) - check your claps from here to the end, somewhat inconsistent
05:35:454 (1) - ctrl+g flows better imo

gonna have to pop this for the incorrect snaps in the 1/3 section, let me know after you fix it
Topic Starter
moonlightleaf

jonathanlfj wrote:

lets see

[General]
add "Ritsuka Sumijun" to tags, she is the singer for this song
you need approachcircle.png and reversearrow.png to complete the hitcircle skin set, you can just grab it from the template skin if not planning to make custom ones

[Flan]
00:13:101 (1) - no need for NC here, this patter follows a continuous fade in the music
00:49:180 (5) - placing this here would flow better: 00:52:513 (6) - NC for musical emphasis
01:44:082 (4,5) - try ctrl+g on this, makes the patter more coherent
02:03:101 (11,12,1,2) - this is a bit hard to play, especially because the way you NCed it makes it more confusing to read. I would change these all to circles
02:15:454 (1) - you dont have to use the NC here since 02:15:062 (1,2) already hints at a tempo change (you could decrease their spacing as well to show the slow down)
02:27:611 (2) - clap on start
02:57:415 (2,3,4,5,6) - not sure why you put a stream here, there is no 1/4 in the music... remove 02:57:513 (3) and rearrange this pattern would do
03:00:944 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this looks a bit messy, you might want to give it more curve or just make it straight
03:32:905 (5,6,7,8) - a constant spacing or non-linear pattern would flow better here, i.e. 03:48:787 (1) - give it more curve so the blanket on 03:49:572 (3) looks more proper
03:54:474 (6,7) - more emphasis on this? if you do that dont forget NC
03:57:611 (4,5,6) - move this here: 04:02:513 (8) - clap on start
04:29:441 (8) - this part should be in 1/4: 04:35:748 (1) - ^
04:37:415 (6) - snap the end to 04:38:069, this one is 1/3
04:53:886 (5) - move a bit right for better blanket
05:04:082 (7) - one grid right to align with 05:03:493 (6)
05:15:454 (4) - clap start
05:23:297 (2) - ^
05:24:474 (1) - clap end
05:28:591 (5) - ^
05:32:317 (1) - check your claps from here to the end, somewhat inconsistent
05:35:454 (1) - ctrl+g flows better imo

gonna have to pop this for the incorrect snaps in the 1/3 section, let me know after you fix it
all fix , add approachcircle.png and reversearrow.png ( custom ) , if them can be used in this map ...

gonna have to pop this for the incorrect snaps in the 1/3 section --- i don't understand this , sorry .... :?

thank you for modding :)
jonathanlfj
its ok it was just a statement saying why i popped it, it looks good now so have the bubble back!

Bubble #1
Topic Starter
moonlightleaf

jonathanlfj wrote:

its ok it was just a statement saying why i popped it, it looks good now so have the bubble back!

Bubble #1
thank you :)
Trust
[General]
  1. The skin file approachcircle.png is still missing and needs to be included to complete your Hit circle set.
[Flandre Scarlet]
  1. 00:18:101 (5) - This doesn't need such low volume for a significant beat. Try 45~50% instead.
  2. 00:33:886 (6) - 1/1 repeat sliders like these are uninteresting to play if they aren't following vocals especially on an Insane level of difficulty as they cover a lot of background music that can potentially be mapped out. It would feel better to break this up into a rhythm like in the image below to allow players to click along with the strong downbeat and finish on 00:34:278. Having a 1/2 rhythm here would also be consistent with 00:40:552 (1,2).


    If you implement this make sure to correct the comboing as follows:
    SPOILER
    00:34:278 - New Combo
    00:35:062 (1) - Remove New Combo
    00:35:846 (3) - New Combo
    00:36:238 (1) - Remove New Combo
  3. 00:37:219 (1) - Clap sounds unfitting, I would remove it.
  4. 00:39:180 (1,2,3,4) - The four consecutive claps is a bit noisy an deviates from your general hitsound pattern. Try removing the claps on (1) and (3).
  5. 00:48:003 (7) - Missed a clap on the head.
  6. 00:52:513 (1) - I noticed this is the only time in the map you use a finish for this part. It's pretty fitting so consider either adding it to all similar parts or removing it here for consistency. In fact whistles seem even more fitting if you decide to add a hitsound for this you could try whistles instead.
  7. 00:54:670 (7) - You can NC here as this combo goes really long.
  8. 00:58:395 (7) - Did you mean to have a finish on the tail instead of a clap?
  9. 01:05:160 (3) - Is this note really necessary? I'm not hearing any sound here and 01:05:062 (2,4) are the accented hits so it would be better to remove the note make a jump between these two for consistency with all patterns like 00:52:513 (1,2).
  10. 01:53:886 (6) - I would break this into a slider and circle to follow the vocal nicely and allow players to click with the strong downbeat.
  11. 02:24:180 (2) - This note isn't covering anything, listening to the background music it should just be a circle and a triplet so I would just remove this and create some space between 02:24:082 (1,3).
  12. 02:39:376 (7) - A 1/1 repeat slider isn't very interesting to play for all the reasons as mentioned earlier. Try a rhythm identical to the suggestion for 00:33:886 (6) - and make sure to NC on 02:40:748 (3) and remove at 02:40:356 (1).
  13. 03:38:689 (2,4) - Well these don't sound like they're mapped to anything, a stream doesn't fit here in my opinion. Just using a 1/2 slider on 03:38:591 feels like the ideal rhythm at this part.
  14. 04:12:317 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Inconsistent stream spacing. Try to keep exactly at 0.5x to make it neater.
  15. 05:19:376 (6) - Swap whistle for a clap. Also NC here as you break of that slider pattern and this combo is a bit long.
  16. 05:35:454 (1,3) - Try and make a clean blanket with these two.
  17. 05:39:670 (6) - Give this equal spacing between 05:39:572 (5,7).
  18. 05:47:415 (5,6,7) - Well this looks a bit strange, especially in gameplay it threw me off a little. Maybe you could use a more normal placement for this triple?
  19. 05:48:984 (3) - An unfitting clap. Remove it here, sounds better to add it on the tail of 05:48:592 (2).
  20. 05:56:435 (7) - Same as 00:58:395 (7).
That's all for now. Your rhythms seem alright, I do think hitsounds could be more consistent.

Let me know if you have any questions about the mod. Poke me when this is applied.
Topic Starter
moonlightleaf

Trust wrote:

[General]
  1. The skin file approachcircle.png is still missing and needs to be included to complete your Hit circle set. ---redl will be have
[Flandre Scarlet]
  1. 00:18:101 (5) - This doesn't need such low volume for a significant beat. Try 45~50% instead.---45%~
  2. 00:33:886 (6) - 1/1 repeat sliders like these are uninteresting to play if they aren't following vocals especially on an Insane level of difficulty as they cover a lot of background music that can potentially be mapped out. It would feel better to break this up into a rhythm like in the image below to allow players to click along with the strong downbeat and finish on 00:34:278. Having a 1/2 rhythm here would also be consistent with 00:40:552 (1,2).---fix,


    If you implement this make sure to correct the comboing as follows:
    SPOILER
    00:34:278 - New Combo
    00:35:062 (1) - Remove New Combo
    00:35:846 (3) - New Combo
    00:36:238 (1) - Remove New Combo
  3. 00:37:219 (1) - Clap sounds unfitting, I would remove it.---fix,
  4. 00:39:180 (1,2,3,4) - The four consecutive claps is a bit noisy an deviates from your general hitsound pattern. Try removing the claps on (1) and (3).---fix,
  5. 00:48:003 (7) - Missed a clap on the head.---fix,
  6. 00:52:513 (1) - I noticed this is the only time in the map you use a finish for this part. It's pretty fitting so consider either adding it to all similar parts or removing it here for consistency. In fact whistles seem even more fitting if you decide to add a hitsound for this you could try whistles instead.---ok , i remove this
  7. 00:54:670 (7) - You can NC here as this combo goes really long.---fix,
  8. 00:58:395 (7) - Did you mean to have a finish on the tail instead of a clap?---fix,
  9. 01:05:160 (3) - Is this note really necessary? I'm not hearing any sound here and 01:05:062 (2,4) are the accented hits so it would be better to remove the note make a jump between these two for consistency with all patterns like 00:52:513 (1,2).---fix, make a jump like before
  10. 01:53:886 (6) - I would break this into a slider and circle to follow the vocal nicely and allow players to click with the strong downbeat.---fix,
  11. 02:24:180 (2) - This note isn't covering anything, listening to the background music it should just be a circle and a triplet so I would just remove this and create some space between 02:24:082 (1,3).---fix,
  12. 02:39:376 (7) - A 1/1 repeat slider isn't very interesting to play for all the reasons as mentioned earlier. Try a rhythm identical to the suggestion for 00:33:886 (6) - and make sure to NC on 02:40:748 (3) and remove at 02:40:356 (1).---fix,
  13. 03:38:689 (2,4) - Well these don't sound like they're mapped to anything, a stream doesn't fit here in my opinion. Just using a 1/2 slider on 03:38:591 feels like the ideal rhythm at this part.---fix , make a part , if you don't think it well ,tell me
  14. 04:12:317 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Inconsistent stream spacing. Try to keep exactly at 0.5x to make it neater.---fix,
  15. 05:19:376 (6) - Swap whistle for a clap. Also NC here as you break of that slider pattern and this combo is a bit long---fix,
  16. 05:35:454 (1,3) - Try and make a clean blanket with these two.---fix,
  17. 05:39:670 (6) - Give this equal spacing between 05:39:572 (5,7).---fix,
  18. 05:47:415 (5,6,7) - Well this looks a bit strange, especially in gameplay it threw me off a little. Maybe you could use a more normal placement for this triple?---fix,
  19. 05:48:984 (3) - An unfitting clap. Remove it here, sounds better to add it on the tail of 05:48:592 (2).---fix,
  20. 05:56:435 (7) - Same as 00:58:395 (7).---fix,
That's all for now. Your rhythms seem alright, I do think hitsounds could be more consistent.

Let me know if you have any questions about the mod. Poke me when this is applied.
thank you :)
Topic Starter
moonlightleaf
Trust (run away

QAQ
Trust
Sorry about that! Rechecked in irc, log is below. Cleaned up some patterns and sorted out the issue with the missing skin file.

SPOILER
22:57 Trust: hi sorry for lateness! im checking now
22:58 Trust: and to answer your question from forum pm, it will be bubble #2
22:58 moonlightleaf: oh oh! thank you for your recheck
22:59 Trust: just need to ask, i did a redl and still dont see the approachcircle.png file :(
22:59 moonlightleaf: i redl
22:59 moonlightleaf: i have it with it , why?
23:00 moonlightleaf: let me redl again
23:04 Trust: ok I have some suggestions
23:04 Trust: whenever you're ready
23:05 moonlightleaf: spinner-approachcircle
23:05 moonlightleaf: is this ?
23:06 Trust: nope, it's exactly approachcircle.png
23:07 moonlightleaf: not " spinner-approachcircle.png " , just the " approachcircle.png " right ?
23:07 Trust: yes, jonathan mentioned this too in his mod
23:11 moonlightleaf: oh, it is my mistake ,spinner-approachcircle.png will delete , right?
23:11 moonlightleaf: for this computer has not photoshop , so i decide to use the osu's approachcircle.png
23:11 Trust: yes
23:12 moonlightleaf: so delete the spinner-approachcircle or not ?
23:13 Trust: yes delete that
23:13 Trust: use osu's approachcircle.png
23:14 moonlightleaf: oh ,let me redl again ,sorry for waitting
23:14 Trust: np
23:14 Trust: all good
23:16 moonlightleaf: it have , plz redl , sorry ;_;
23:18 Trust: there we go! good
23:18 moonlightleaf: >w<
23:19 Trust: ok ready for suggestions?
23:21 moonlightleaf: yep
23:22 Trust: 02:39:376 (7,1,2) - i think this was an accident, cause so many finishes x.x
23:23 Trust: so remove on tail of (7), tail of (1), and (2)
23:23 moonlightleaf: remove 7 1 2 ? 3finishes?
23:24 Trust: yeah it's too muhc
23:24 Trust: much*
23:25 Trust: only finish should be on 02:39:768 -
23:26 moonlightleaf: ok fix, remove 7tail and 2 , keep 1 on head
23:27 Trust: dont forget tail of 02:39:768 (1) -
23:27 Trust: ~
23:27 moonlightleaf: oh~
23:27 moonlightleaf: fix,remove it
23:28 Trust: hmm did you make a new pattern here? 02:54:866 (1,2,3) -
23:28 Trust: or was this here before
23:29 moonlightleaf: this part i have not remake
23:29 moonlightleaf: remap*
23:29 Trust: oh ok i thought this was different from last time, nevermind then~
23:30 Trust: 03:37:807 (4) - NC here to follow previous kiai, and vocal emphasis
23:32 moonlightleaf: 03:37:219 (1,2,3) - it does not mater if here is 123 then next nc 03:37:807 (1) - ?
23:33 Trust: it should be fine, is actually consistent with 02:06:238 (1,2,3,1) -
23:33 moonlightleaf: ok,fix
23:33 Trust: 05:20:748 (1,2,3,1) - here too :>
23:34 moonlightleaf: 0.0
23:35 Trust: 03:38:591 (5,6,7) - rhythm you made here could follow the music better imo, try like this: http://puu.sh/aHZws/f1e4dac9b6.png
23:39 moonlightleaf: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1899386 how about this
23:39 moonlightleaf: 8 is down for 6
23:39 moonlightleaf: from*
23:40 Trust: 1 sec let me try it
23:40 moonlightleaf: 68 copy from 34
23:42 Trust: hmm the jump to (7) feels too big
23:42 Trust: and don't forget to put a note on 03:39:964 -
23:43 Trust: here gimme a sec ill give my idea
23:45 Trust: try like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1899395
23:45 moonlightleaf: how about 7 rotate in center 37°
23:46 moonlightleaf: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1899396
23:47 Trust: but then theres very little space between (6) and (7) ;w;
23:47 moonlightleaf: selection centre 37
23:49 moonlightleaf: 03:38:984 (6) - x: 256 y:108 7 rotate 43°
23:53 Trust: one sec, imma send you a code
23:53 Trust: i'm having a hard time following this
23:56 Trust: ok check your forum pm, i sent a code you can try, i think it works good
23:58 Trust: last suggestion, 04:32:709 (7,1) - swap nc
23:59 moonlightleaf: yep, good pattern
23:59 Trust: :D
00:00 moonlightleaf: 04:32:709 (7) - i think 6 -> 7 to tell player that next will be put there
00:01 Trust: well there are two whole measures seperating those parts
00:01 Trust: it's unnecessary imo
00:01 moonlightleaf: hm..
00:02 moonlightleaf: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1899422
00:02 moonlightleaf: this
00:03 Trust: yeah. well it's up to you
00:03 moonlightleaf: but i want to keep 7 ,it is ok ?
00:04 Trust: yep
00:04 moonlightleaf: i know that 6 next will put there because i am the creater
00:05 Trust: ok i think that's all
00:06 moonlightleaf: >w<
00:06 Trust: you can go ahead and update
00:07 moonlightleaf: waitting ><
00:09 moonlightleaf: ok, thank you ~ updated~
00:11 moonlightleaf: hard~ cost your much time for sorry ...
00:12 Trust: kk 1 moment checking the skin files
00:12 Trust: to make sure everything is good
00:12 moonlightleaf: www
Bubble #2

Good luck!
captin1
[Flandre Scarlet]
  1. Tick Rate 2 might fit better here :?
  2. 00:15:454 (1,2,3) - and 00:17:023 (1) - I think it would be better if you switched these two, starting the triplet after a pause in the music like this will be frustrating to hit accurately
  3. 00:18:101 (5,6) - why do these have soft samples? it would sound more consistent if they were kept normal
  4. 01:36:827 (1,2,3) - might want to move this to x416 y104 so that the spacing looks equal after the automatic stacking
  5. 01:55:650 (8) - similar reason to above, move this a bit left
  6. 02:55:258 (3) - this would fit the music much better snapped to 1/8
  7. 03:59:572 (7) - move a bit right for better spacing?
  8. 05:06:435 (3,5) - clap should be on 5, not 3
  9. 05:09:768 (5,6,7) - try x140 y152 for similar reasons as before
  10. 05:17:219 (3) - ctrl+g here might flow better
let me know
Topic Starter
moonlightleaf

captin1 wrote:

[Flandre Scarlet]
  1. Tick Rate 2 might fit better here :? --fix
  2. 00:15:454 (1,2,3) - and 00:17:023 (1) - I think it would be better if you switched these two, starting the triplet after a pause in the music like this will be frustrating to hit accurately--fix
  3. 00:18:101 (5,6) - why do these have soft samples? it would sound more consistent if they were kept normal--fix
  4. 01:36:827 (1,2,3) - might want to move this to x416 y104 so that the spacing looks equal after the automatic stacking---x412 y86 , 1.0x 1.62x
  5. 01:55:650 (8) - similar reason to above, move this a bit left--fix
  6. 02:55:258 (3) - this would fit the music much better snapped to 1/8
  7. 03:59:572 (7) - move a bit right for better spacing?--fix
  8. 05:06:435 (3,5) - clap should be on 5, not 3--fix
  9. 05:09:768 (5,6,7) - try x140 y152 for similar reasons as before ---x136 y152 , 1.24x
  10. 05:17:219 (3) - ctrl+g here might flow better--fix
let me know
thank you :)
captin1
alright, looks good

approved!
Ozato Fumika
gratz!!
Xinely
gratsu~
Topic Starter
moonlightleaf
#1 App :) thank you for All
Sellenite
wow
Satellite
wow
Crystal
gratz!

Satellite wrote:

wow

Sellenite wrote:

wow
Koiyuki
mom
Skystar
jonathan wow
trust wow
captin wow
i want this achievement

congrats!

EDIT: oh qaq and i missed moe ike i was blind
Rizia
二妹你也終於2nd了
恭喜
FlobuFlobs
Gratz <3
Mao

Ranking Criteria wrote:

When skinning gameplay elements, complete sets of elements must be skinned. For instance, if you skin hitcircles, you must include a hitcircle.png, hitcircleoverlay.png, approachcircle.png, and a slider border color (this can be done by adding the line "SliderBorder: 255,255,255" (using RGB values) under the [Colours] section of each .osu file). The same logic applies to hitbursts, cursors, numbers, and anything else of this nature. If you didn't intend to skin an element in the set, then using the templateskin's version is okay. Setting a SkinPreference is also acceptable (e.g. forcing the default skin).
I've redownloaded this two times and can't see a Sliderborder Color since in the .osu there's none set:

[Colours]
Combo1 : 196,173,17
Combo2 : 255,108,255
Combo3 : 85,255,255
Myxo
What Mao wrote.

Also, if you unrank this:
The hitsound volumes of this map are far too low. An average of 40% is almost not hearable for me when playing the map. If you compare it to other ranked mapsets, you can hear the huge difference. I'd highly recommend to make the volume for the complete mapset higher by atleast 20%.

BATs, if you don't agree with me, listen to this section 00:46:827 - Here it's the most obvious imo. This is definitely not loud enough to be ranked.
Scorpiour
confirmed.

Sorry for the inconvenience but please fix that.
Oracle
二妹纸闷声app一下大宝!!
:o 还要恭喜体验第一次un
sjoy
没啥大不了的问题
Topic Starter
moonlightleaf

Mao wrote:

Ranking Criteria wrote:

When skinning gameplay elements, complete sets of elements must be skinned. For instance, if you skin hitcircles, you must include a hitcircle.png, hitcircleoverlay.png, approachcircle.png, and a slider border color (this can be done by adding the line "SliderBorder: 255,255,255" (using RGB values) under the [Colours] section of each .osu file). The same logic applies to hitbursts, cursors, numbers, and anything else of this nature. If you didn't intend to skin an element in the set, then using the templateskin's version is okay. Setting a SkinPreference is also acceptable (e.g. forcing the default skin).
I've redownloaded this two times and can't see a Sliderborder Color since in the .osu there's none set:

[Colours]
Combo1 : 196,173,17
Combo2 : 255,108,255
Combo3 : 85,255,255
add SliderBorder: 255,255,255 in color set

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Desperate-kun wrote:

What Mao wrote.

Also, if you unrank this:
The hitsound volumes of this map are far too low. An average of 40% is almost not hearable for me when playing the map. If you compare it to other ranked mapsets, you can hear the huge difference. I'd highly recommend to make the volume for the complete mapset higher by atleast 20%.

BATs, if you don't agree with me, listen to this section 00:46:827 - Here it's the most obvious imo. This is definitely not loud enough to be ranked.
all hit sound +20% but 04:29:180 - 5% no change

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:) 非常感谢 Jemmmmy的帮助,save时候osu不见了233 于是对话没有

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Oracle wrote:

二妹纸闷声app一下大宝!!
:o 还要恭喜体验第一次un
大宝ora球 QAQ

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Scorpiour wrote:

confirmed.

Sorry for the inconvenience but please fix that.
fix , plz check it ,thank you :)
Scorpiour
Here's your fire :)
Topic Starter
moonlightleaf

Scorpiour wrote:

Here's your fire :)
thank you Scorpiour :)
Secretpipe
Re Gratz :D
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