"Mod"
2014-05-09 00:11 Mao: your spacing is a bit inconsitent
2014-05-09 00:11 Mao: which shouldn't be the case in Normal
2014-05-09 00:11 Winek: where is that
2014-05-09 00:11 Winek: i correctly used distance snap =.=
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: 00:15:319 (3) - for example
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: 0,91 to the next object
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: even tho you standard spacing is 1,00
2014-05-09 00:12 Winek: oops.
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: but also some 0,04 variation was found
2014-05-09 00:12 Winek: yeah i guess editors troll
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: which is a bit big variation
2014-05-09 00:12 Winek: WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: 00:06:772 (3) -
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: next 1,05
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: 00:07:564 (4) - next 1,04
2014-05-09 00:13 Winek: ._.
2014-05-09 00:13 Winek: feexed
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: also some transitions could be better, especially since it's Normal
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: lemme get an example
2014-05-09 00:13 Winek: ok
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: wait a sec
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: takes me a bit
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: 00:06:772 (3,4,1) -
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: lemme explain
2014-05-09 00:14 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:15 Winek: it looks ugly i should remap this part
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EDwc.jpg
2014-05-09 00:15 Winek: also the blanket with 00:07:960 (1,2) - is crappy
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: I think the movement doesn't feel smooth
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: following the slider's curve would feel smoother
2014-05-09 00:15 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: but going upwards here breaks the flow a bit for me :/
2014-05-09 00:16 Mao: I think these transitions are very important for easier diffs
2014-05-09 00:16 Winek: yeah you're right
2014-05-09 00:16 Mao: since they should be as smooth as possible to give the player a nice experience C:
2014-05-09 00:16 Winek: but following it here would break all the map
2014-05-09 00:16 Winek: also i must admit it's kinda my mapping style
2014-05-09 00:16 Mao: yeah of course
2014-05-09 00:17 Mao: I just want to tell you that it doesn't play well to me, so it's just my personal view of it I guess :bb
2014-05-09 00:17 Winek: yeah
2014-05-09 00:17 Winek: ill take that for my next map
2014-05-09 00:17 Mao: Isn't 00:09:148 (3,4) - the same as 00:05:980 (2) - ?
2014-05-09 00:18 Mao: Probably you could change them to be both the same for consistency
2014-05-09 00:18 Winek: true
2014-05-09 00:18 Mao: modding Normals and Easies is such a pain for somebody who can't feel an Easy/Normal-Player's playing experience
2014-05-09 00:18 Winek: changed 00:09:148 (3,4) - into slider
2014-05-09 00:18 Mao: yeah, good choice
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: myeslf am an easy-normal player
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: i suck at osu if you look at my top ranks and etc
2014-05-09 00:19 Mao: yeah :/
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: wow
2014-05-09 00:19 Mao: my highest rank was 1,298
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: changing into slider make i perfect <3
2014-05-09 00:20 Mao: but I play better than a friend of mine who is #500 LOL
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: mine was somewhere around 100000 biiiitch please orz
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: well
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: i could get super rank by spamming ENH on each single mapset
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: and some easy insanes
2014-05-09 00:20 Mao: I'm playing AR8 Insane + DT :/
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: IPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIOEPGNAFPAOEGMPAOEMNGPAMGNEPOIWAPOWOPEAMNGPNPGAIEMNPOANIGMPABIMBPODMNAEBPBDMENPQWP_^)/Q)QJH_^WH)W%Y/YHB>SBS
2014-05-09 00:21 Mao: I don't want to buy cheese
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: but i really wanted to sell you some cheese
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: i need money for my sick mom
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: I'm sorry
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: ;____________________;
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: I'll buy all your cheese
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: since cheese is awesome
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: I can put cheese into my shower
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: and wash it
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: LOL
2014-05-09 00:22 Winek: i wash myself with cheese
2014-05-09 00:23 Winek: it feel so good
2014-05-09 00:23 Mao:
2014-05-09 00:23 Mao: 00:14:932 (1,2,3,4) - I think here's another of these transition issues, flows really bad to me. I'd make the triplet pointing to the slider to get the player actually a bit prepared to go down the curve
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: so he doesn't have to turn a lot
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: but well, I think modding this wont make sense
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: since it's all over the map and it's you style I guess
2014-05-09 00:24 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: I have to leave now
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: can we talk tomorrow again? :/
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: sure
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: just a minute..
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: yeah
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: you mena to do like http://puu.sh/8EEca/5df5d9808d.jpg this
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: ?
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: or something like that
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: yeah, just move the slider a bit lower
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: so that it creates a fluent curve
2014-05-09 00:26 Mao: so in the gap the player actually sees that he has to go down right now
2014-05-09 00:26 Mao: and following the curve he already starts doing that a bit
2014-05-09 00:26 Mao: which makes a smooth transition to me
2014-05-09 00:26 Winek: but i just don't like the way it is..
2014-05-09 00:27 Mao: how?
2014-05-09 00:27 Mao: the example?
2014-05-09 00:27 Winek: and its only on this map
2014-05-09 00:27 Winek: no the transition yer talking about
2014-05-09 00:28 Mao: so what do you dislike
2014-05-09 00:28 Mao: the transition in this map?
2014-05-09 00:28 Winek: on this map/song
2014-05-09 00:28 Winek: i like to do that in other maps
2014-05-09 00:28 Winek: oh yeah i remember..
2014-05-09 00:29 Winek: http://puu.sh/8EEt4/8ac6a849da.jpg
2014-05-09 00:29 Winek: i just can't fit in the perfet location
2014-05-09 00:29 Mao: try to make it just like one curve
2014-05-09 00:29 Mao: lemme give you a tiip
2014-05-09 00:30 Winek: ok 5 bucks pls
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: create a curved slider
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: 00:27:706 (1) -
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: oops
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: lol
2014-05-09 00:30 Winek: lolwattt
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEy2.jpg
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: i dislike those kind of sliders when it's way too curved
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: actually
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: what i dislike in sliders i just realized it.
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: that's just an example asasghasgash
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: you can use curved sliders like patterns for curves
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EECk.jpg
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: just put your others over it
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: http://puu.sh/8EEEz/9b020767fc.jpg
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: and remove the pattern
2014-05-09 00:32 Winek:
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEGI.jpg
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: -> perfect curve transition
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: lol
2014-05-09 00:32 Winek: i hate sliders that are too curvy and make a weak line between end/start
2014-05-09 00:32 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:33 Winek: i still think it's unequal
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: it is, but if you want curve movement
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: alsoooo
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: convert slider to stream is your friend
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: xD
2014-05-09 00:34 Mao: you can use this for awesome stuff as well
2014-05-09 00:34 Winek: ye i guess
2014-05-09 00:34 Winek: actuallly i hate sliders that are too curved..
2014-05-09 00:34 Mao: me too
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: well I love it for longer sliders
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: 00:31:190 (5) -
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: is ugly
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: if they fit with the other ones
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: i seem to have a problem
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: replace with a rotated version of 00:30:028 (1) -
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: xD
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: i never want any straight slider
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEWM.jpg
2014-05-09 00:36 Winek: even 00:28:867 (5) -
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: use just slightly curved slders
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEY7.jpg
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: never do that
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: always have the end point in the tails centre
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: otherwise your slider looks stretched
2014-05-09 00:37 Winek: uh wat
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EF1l.jpg
2014-05-09 00:37 Winek: but the slider look nice :c
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: but it could look smoother
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: ><
2014-05-09 00:37 Winek: anyway i did what you asked c:
2014-05-09 00:38 Mao: ^^
2014-05-09 00:11 Mao: which shouldn't be the case in Normal
2014-05-09 00:11 Winek: where is that
2014-05-09 00:11 Winek: i correctly used distance snap =.=
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: 00:15:319 (3) - for example
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: 0,91 to the next object
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: even tho you standard spacing is 1,00
2014-05-09 00:12 Winek: oops.
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: but also some 0,04 variation was found
2014-05-09 00:12 Winek: yeah i guess editors troll
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: which is a bit big variation
2014-05-09 00:12 Winek: WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: 00:06:772 (3) -
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: next 1,05
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: 00:07:564 (4) - next 1,04
2014-05-09 00:13 Winek: ._.
2014-05-09 00:13 Winek: feexed
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: also some transitions could be better, especially since it's Normal
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: lemme get an example
2014-05-09 00:13 Winek: ok
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: wait a sec
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: takes me a bit
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: 00:06:772 (3,4,1) -
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: lemme explain
2014-05-09 00:14 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:15 Winek: it looks ugly i should remap this part
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EDwc.jpg
2014-05-09 00:15 Winek: also the blanket with 00:07:960 (1,2) - is crappy
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: I think the movement doesn't feel smooth
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: following the slider's curve would feel smoother
2014-05-09 00:15 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: but going upwards here breaks the flow a bit for me :/
2014-05-09 00:16 Mao: I think these transitions are very important for easier diffs
2014-05-09 00:16 Winek: yeah you're right
2014-05-09 00:16 Mao: since they should be as smooth as possible to give the player a nice experience C:
2014-05-09 00:16 Winek: but following it here would break all the map
2014-05-09 00:16 Winek: also i must admit it's kinda my mapping style
2014-05-09 00:16 Mao: yeah of course
2014-05-09 00:17 Mao: I just want to tell you that it doesn't play well to me, so it's just my personal view of it I guess :bb
2014-05-09 00:17 Winek: yeah
2014-05-09 00:17 Winek: ill take that for my next map
2014-05-09 00:17 Mao: Isn't 00:09:148 (3,4) - the same as 00:05:980 (2) - ?
2014-05-09 00:18 Mao: Probably you could change them to be both the same for consistency
2014-05-09 00:18 Winek: true
2014-05-09 00:18 Mao: modding Normals and Easies is such a pain for somebody who can't feel an Easy/Normal-Player's playing experience
2014-05-09 00:18 Winek: changed 00:09:148 (3,4) - into slider
2014-05-09 00:18 Mao: yeah, good choice
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: myeslf am an easy-normal player
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: i suck at osu if you look at my top ranks and etc
2014-05-09 00:19 Mao: yeah :/
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: wow
2014-05-09 00:19 Mao: my highest rank was 1,298
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: changing into slider make i perfect <3
2014-05-09 00:20 Mao: but I play better than a friend of mine who is #500 LOL
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: mine was somewhere around 100000 biiiitch please orz
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: well
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: i could get super rank by spamming ENH on each single mapset
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: and some easy insanes
2014-05-09 00:20 Mao: I'm playing AR8 Insane + DT :/
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: IPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIOEPGNAFPAOEGMPAOEMNGPAMGNEPOIWAPOWOPEAMNGPNPGAIEMNPOANIGMPABIMBPODMNAEBPBDMENPQWP_^)/Q)QJH_^WH)W%Y/YHB>SBS
2014-05-09 00:21 Mao: I don't want to buy cheese
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: but i really wanted to sell you some cheese
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: i need money for my sick mom
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: I'm sorry
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: ;____________________;
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: I'll buy all your cheese
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: since cheese is awesome
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: I can put cheese into my shower
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: and wash it
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: LOL
2014-05-09 00:22 Winek: i wash myself with cheese
2014-05-09 00:23 Winek: it feel so good
2014-05-09 00:23 Mao:
2014-05-09 00:23 Mao: 00:14:932 (1,2,3,4) - I think here's another of these transition issues, flows really bad to me. I'd make the triplet pointing to the slider to get the player actually a bit prepared to go down the curve
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: so he doesn't have to turn a lot
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: but well, I think modding this wont make sense
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: since it's all over the map and it's you style I guess
2014-05-09 00:24 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: I have to leave now
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: can we talk tomorrow again? :/
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: sure
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: just a minute..
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: yeah
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: you mena to do like http://puu.sh/8EEca/5df5d9808d.jpg this
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: ?
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: or something like that
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: yeah, just move the slider a bit lower
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: so that it creates a fluent curve
2014-05-09 00:26 Mao: so in the gap the player actually sees that he has to go down right now
2014-05-09 00:26 Mao: and following the curve he already starts doing that a bit
2014-05-09 00:26 Mao: which makes a smooth transition to me
2014-05-09 00:26 Winek: but i just don't like the way it is..
2014-05-09 00:27 Mao: how?
2014-05-09 00:27 Mao: the example?
2014-05-09 00:27 Winek: and its only on this map
2014-05-09 00:27 Winek: no the transition yer talking about
2014-05-09 00:28 Mao: so what do you dislike
2014-05-09 00:28 Mao: the transition in this map?
2014-05-09 00:28 Winek: on this map/song
2014-05-09 00:28 Winek: i like to do that in other maps
2014-05-09 00:28 Winek: oh yeah i remember..
2014-05-09 00:29 Winek: http://puu.sh/8EEt4/8ac6a849da.jpg
2014-05-09 00:29 Winek: i just can't fit in the perfet location
2014-05-09 00:29 Mao: try to make it just like one curve
2014-05-09 00:29 Mao: lemme give you a tiip
2014-05-09 00:30 Winek: ok 5 bucks pls
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: create a curved slider
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: 00:27:706 (1) -
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: oops
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: lol
2014-05-09 00:30 Winek: lolwattt
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEy2.jpg
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: i dislike those kind of sliders when it's way too curved
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: actually
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: what i dislike in sliders i just realized it.
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: that's just an example asasghasgash
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: you can use curved sliders like patterns for curves
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EECk.jpg
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: just put your others over it
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: http://puu.sh/8EEEz/9b020767fc.jpg
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: and remove the pattern
2014-05-09 00:32 Winek:
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEGI.jpg
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: -> perfect curve transition
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: lol
2014-05-09 00:32 Winek: i hate sliders that are too curvy and make a weak line between end/start
2014-05-09 00:32 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:33 Winek: i still think it's unequal
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: it is, but if you want curve movement
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: alsoooo
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: convert slider to stream is your friend
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: xD
2014-05-09 00:34 Mao: you can use this for awesome stuff as well
2014-05-09 00:34 Winek: ye i guess
2014-05-09 00:34 Winek: actuallly i hate sliders that are too curved..
2014-05-09 00:34 Mao: me too
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: well I love it for longer sliders
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: 00:31:190 (5) -
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: is ugly
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: if they fit with the other ones
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: i seem to have a problem
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: replace with a rotated version of 00:30:028 (1) -
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: xD
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: i never want any straight slider
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEWM.jpg
2014-05-09 00:36 Winek: even 00:28:867 (5) -
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: use just slightly curved slders
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEY7.jpg
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: never do that
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: always have the end point in the tails centre
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: otherwise your slider looks stretched
2014-05-09 00:37 Winek: uh wat
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EF1l.jpg
2014-05-09 00:37 Winek: but the slider look nice :c
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: but it could look smoother
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: ><
2014-05-09 00:37 Winek: anyway i did what you asked c:
2014-05-09 00:38 Mao: ^^