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Winek

Papcio wrote:

baraatje123 wrote:

Yoo Winek,
Can I please make 2 taiko diffs?
People say I'm good at it (Nardo, Coroquetz, Cdh etc.)
Pleasseee?
Lol i made 2 taikos for this but Winek said taiko BAT isn't active so it will be hard to rank with taikos :'( (And he didn't add it in external link, sad.)
oh shit
i forgot, adding dem right now
Bara-

Winek wrote:

baraatje123 wrote:

Yoo Winek,
Can I please make 2 taiko diffs?
People say I'm good at it (Nardo, Coroquetz, Cdh etc.)
Pleasseee?
Well, this map is almost done, and a BAT might mod it.. So maybe another one? This one?
Ok, yeah. I'd love to do that :)
You can add me to the list for muzukashii/oni :D
Topic Starter
Winek
I can't seem to add external link for your map, Papcio. Try sending me a full .osu in a notepad, beacause for me, the difficulty doesn't show.

Also, feel free to make Kantan/Futsuu for Immortal smoke!
Bara-
Hello, little mod here
[General]
Remove Timing Point at 126328, it ends here, and does NOT change anything, since the maps is already over
[Beginner]
00:09:149 (2) - This is beginner, so don't do this, Since it is even below easy, stick to 1/1 only, and nothing less, so 3/2 is allowed
00:48:996 (4,5) - Might be too high spacing, consider lowing to 1.00
01:05:254 (2) - See above
01:08:351 (3) - ^
01:14:544 (2) - ^
01:26:457 (4,5) - See above
02:05:554 (4) - Remove Clap (Add Whistle) This one is IMO the only Clap which feels bad

For the rest good diff

[Easy]
HP +1
OD + 1
All the NC are optional, unless notified
00:03:604 (4) - NC
00:04:396 (5) - Make it a single note, at 00:04:396
00:06:772 (4) - NC
00:09:940 (4) - NC
00:14:932 (1,4,1,2) - Try to use less 1/2 in Easy diffs (I will not repeat this in this mod!)
00:19:577 (4) - Overlap with (1,2)
00:22:286 (3) - NC
00:50:157 (3) - NO kicksliders in Easy diffs remove the reverses, and make a 2nd slider
01:48:909 (3) - Make it a note, only at the end of the slider, so at 01:49:296
Rest is fine

[Normal]

Same speed as Easy ○.○
Might be too hard, because of the 1/2 sliderspam
Because of this, I recommend using Slider Tick 2


00:02:812 (3,4) - Better as slider, because it is still a low diff, but it does have 2 diffs lower than this, so it is okay
01:26:070 (1) - No Kickslider
01:32:263 (1) - Trail goes out of bounds? Hits HP bar. NO Don't do this
01:52:779 (6) - I don't feel this, you can make it 1/2
01:57:038 (1) - Please make it 1/1 instead of 3/2

[Hard]
00:23:835 (1,2,3,4) - I don't feel the flow here really well
00:30:028 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Sure this is not too hard for 'just' an hard?
00:42:415 (1,2,1) - Remove kicksliders, change into 1/2 sliders/circles
00:48:609 (1) - ^^
00:54:803 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Doesn't flow well IMO
01:12:609 (2) - Can you please make this nicer, by ending EXACTLY on 256;192, now it is 256;193
01:44:650 (1,2,3) - Kicksliders
01:50:844 (1) - ^^
The rest is fine


[Lunatic Collab]
Check AiMod: Kiai Is unsnapped at 00:39:329
00:04:595 (1,2) - What
00:07:763 (5,6) - ^^
00:09:347 (4,5) - ^^
00:48:609 (1) - Kickslider
Good map for the rest

Good Luck, getting this good map ranked!
I expect that to happen soon :D
Irreversible
[Beginner]

00:06:773 (2) - It’s not a too big issue but why the DS inconsistency?
00:26:157 (6) - Those claps sound really weird and noisy.. (goes to all of them) Is there really no other possibility of hitsound?
00:33:125 (1) - DS
00:49:770 (6) - DS
00:50:157 - I would actually make this a clickable action instead of a leaving one, because of the strong beat given - try CTRL + G a rhythm, so the slider is somewhere else.
00:50:932 (7) - DS
01:27:231 (6) - Same applies to this one.
01:35:360 (1) - DS
02:03:231 (3) - How about something more spectacular instead of a curve to emphasize the end better? A curve is quite bland.

Well, you’ve made a beginner diff to fix the spread issues - yet you use such a high DS. Not a big problem but keep it in mind next time.

[Easy]

00:03:604 (4,5) - Two curves which actually look the same after each other work quite poorly together. I suggest another slider for 00:04:396 (5) - http://puu.sh/8hwpz/d493fd690a.jpg like this.
00:06:772 (4) - And as well, two curves which don’t compliment eachother. How about dragging the anchor point downwards?
00:19:577 (4) - Ugly overlap.
00:20:738 (1) - Blanket
00:24:609 (2,4) - :/ I can’t really explain it but it really doesn’t look appealing to me, you can compare this with ranked maps, and there is really rarely something like this. I guess it is because 00:24:609 (2) - points to the left whereas you go to the top with 3, the flow is not really given.
00:28:093 (2) - If you really insist doing stuff like this, please at least make sure that it gives a proper curve with 00:26:932 (1) -.
00:28:093 (2) - Nice ignoring of a strong beat by the way, but it kind of works, up to you if you want to leave it or not (talked with you about it ingame)
00:47:061 (3) - Blanket
00:48:609 (1,2,3) - Could be a nice triangle pattern http://puu.sh/8hwB9/e72bd914ea.jpg like this. Make sure that it’s made really clean; elsewhise it won’t look as good as it could be.
00:50:157 (3) - And as well, double reverse might be too stressful for an easy map, even if you have beginner. I’d suggest removing it.
00:54:415 (4,1,2) - DS DS DS.
00:56:351 (3) - DS
01:02:932 (4) - The way how close 4 is to 2 doesn’t look appealing to me; play with the placement so it looks neater.
01:10:286 (5) - Missing hitsound?
01:17:167 (1) - Not sure if this is enough recovery time for an easy.
01:19:876 (1,3,4) - You should know what I’m talking about; the spacement looks crappy again.
01:38:070 (4) - Mm, how about unstacking? I think it would play better if you didn’t have this stack; the movement will improve much and after all; was there a reason to stack?
01:41:554 (1) - DS
01:47:747 (1,2) - No ½ please.
01:48:909 (3) - Ignoring of downbeat.
01:52:779 (4) - o_o’ http://puu.sh/8hwNy/0bfdca0359.jpg Looks way better and less confusing.
02:04:779 (2,3,4,5,1) - Try to get a neat curve here instead of .. something like this (looks really .. squary)

I think I pointed up most stuff, but I think you need to go through the diff yourself and clean it up a bit more; of course it’s your first map, and of course I’ll consider this, yet we should try to get the best result as possible for now.

[Normal]

00:07:565 (4) - DS
00:09:941 (3) - Thats a really straight flow here, I don’t really like that because in my opinion there are things that play way better than this; how about moving it down a bit, or even make it curve pointing up to the top?
00:17:835 (1,2,3,4) - This sounds really spammy. Please get rid of the heavy note density here; it will sound much calmer and more appropriate for an normal.
00:23:448 (6,1,2,3,4) - ^
00:29:641 - Where’s the circle here? Add one please.
00:37:190 (2,3,4,5) - And as well, I think this is too hard for a normal.. oh well.
00:46:093 (2) - Bad transition; try to get a better overall- curve here with rotating slider 2!
00:48:415 - Unnecessary circle, please get rid of it.
00:54:996 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
01:01:190 (2,3,4,5) - ^
01:07:577 (2) - I miss the empahsized beat 01:07:964 - which is here, but sadly it’s completely ignored; how about ending the slider there to give it a better emphasis?
01:20:457 (2,3,4) - I think this is more appropriate for a normal, however, you ignore two downbeats again here.
01:32:263 (1) - o_O ..that’s probably really weird to play this, because it’s really inconsistent andl et’s be honest; is it worth that for a plain curve? I don’t think so. Keep the rhythm here.
01:50:844 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think as well, many normal player will miss here because the rhythm is quite complicated.
01:53:941 (1) - ^ like 01:07:577 (2)
02:00:134 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Nothing against you now but the map was ookaaayyish so far, but this looks like you just wanted to end it and didn’t consider things properly anymore. The rhythm is strange and 02:02:070 (7,8,1) - patterns like these are really questionable. Please rework this little part a bit!

[Kaguya’s Hard]

00:08:357 (1) - I think it’s easy to avoid the overlap here. 409 168 ?
00:10:535 (1) - Not sure what you tried to do here but the rhythm as well as the placement seems odd to me. I guess a stack would be okay.
00:18:803 (4,5,6) - Avoid those tiny overlaps please.
00:22:867 (2) - Try to get an even better blanket here!
00:23:835 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Well you can see really well that you’ve simply run out of space here, but it doesn’t look so neat to be honest. Try to get another placement for them to avoid unnecessary overlaps.
00:31:577 (9) - NC?
00:31:964 (10) - Doesn’t look too appealing again, and i’m not sure about the flow.. what about another slider shape here?
00:36:222 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is personal opinion now, feel free to deny; but this plays really poor, especially in a hard diff. The movement that this creates, it’s just really meh. Try to get a zickzack pattern or something, it will be way better.
01:38:457 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Like this, it’s really good~

Please get rid of all overlaps (except it really looks outstandingly good, what I doubt), there are really many, and it just looks unprofessional made if you ask me. The map itself is ok, except the mentioned overlaps.. but I just stopped pointing them out after 0:36.

Will mod Lunatic later, I Need a break xD
Topic Starter
Winek
Irreusagi <3

Irreusagi <3 wrote:

[Beginner]

00:06:773 (2) - It’s not a too big issue but why the DS inconsistency? Fixed all little DS issues.
00:26:157 (6) - Those claps sound really weird and noisy.. (goes to all of them) Is there really no other possibility of hitsound? Well, those soft claps might look noisy, I don't like using costum hitsounds, and i kinda like those claps, but if anyone give me a good suggestion of hitsounds i might use it. I tried every hitsounds (whistle/clap/finish ; soft/drum/normal) and for me only soft clap fits.
00:33:125 (1) - DS
00:49:770 (6) - DS
00:50:157 - I would actually make this a clickable action instead of a leaving one, because of the strong beat given - try CTRL + G a rhythm, so the slider is somewhere else. wtf, this location only have a circle with the noisy clap, are you ok?
00:50:932 (7) - DS
01:27:231 (6) - Same applies to this one. Yes fixed.
01:35:360 (1) - DS
02:03:231 (3) - How about something more spectacular instead of a curve to emphasize the end better? A curve is quite bland. I guess changed into a sexy wave.

Well, you’ve made a beginner diff to fix the spread issues - yet you use such a high DS. Not a big problem but keep it in mind next time. My mind wasn't ok when i made this entire mapset. Also, opposite. This was firtly an Easy diff, but was so easy and broke the spread, i renamed to beginner.

[Easy]

00:03:604 (4,5) - Two curves which actually look the same after each other work quite poorly together. I suggest another slider for 00:04:396 (5) - http://puu.sh/8hwpz/d493fd690a.jpg like this. Yep, fixed.
00:06:772 (4) - And as well, two curves which don’t compliment eachother. How about dragging the anchor point downwards? Flow sucks here, remapped a bit of it instead.
00:19:577 (4) - Ugly overlap. ;-; remapped the part.
00:20:738 (1) - Blanket ;___________________________________________;
00:24:609 (2,4) - :/ I can’t really explain it but it really doesn’t look appealing to me, you can compare this with ranked maps, and there is really rarely something like this. I guess it is because 00:24:609 (2) - points to the left whereas you go to the top with 3, the flow is not really given. I realized myself how the flow sucks. Remapped it a way, maybe looks better?
00:28:093 (2) - If you really insist doing stuff like this, please at least make sure that it gives a proper curve with 00:26:932 (1) -. I never realized how my flow sucks. Made a better curve.
00:28:093 (2) - Nice ignoring of a strong beat by the way, but it kind of works, up to you if you want to leave it or not (talked with you about it ingame) The pattern looks good here for me, so I don't want to change this one. And like you said, it doesn't fit bad.
00:47:061 (3) - Blanket irre senpai please
00:48:609 (1,2,3) - Could be a nice triangle pattern http://puu.sh/8hwB9/e72bd914ea.jpg like this. Make sure that it’s made really clean; elsewhise it won’t look as good as it could be. Tried my best.
00:50:157 (3) - And as well, double reverse might be too stressful for an easy map, even if you have beginner. I’d suggest removing it. Fine .-.
00:54:415 (4,1,2) - DS DS DS. Fix Fix Fix
00:56:351 (3) - DS Fix
01:02:932 (4) - The way how close 4 is to 2 doesn’t look appealing to me; play with the placement so it looks neater.Dunno exactly what you mean, but i tried playing around.. Dunno if the results is ok for you.
01:10:286 (5) - Missing hitsound? Blame grumd
01:17:167 (1) - Not sure if this is enough recovery time for an easy. Maybe..? I'll see what other says.
01:19:876 (1,3,4) - You should know what I’m talking about; the spacement looks crappy again. what the fuck i think i was completely drunk when i was making this map omg
01:38:070 (4) - Mm, how about unstacking? I think it would play better if you didn’t have this stack; the movement will improve much and after all; was there a reason to stack?
01:41:554 (1) - DS Yes
01:47:747 (1,2) - No ½ please. Completely remmaped that part, the flow sucks
01:48:909 (3) - Ignoring of downbeat.
01:52:779 (4) - o_o’ http://puu.sh/8hwNy/0bfdca0359.jpg Looks way better and less confusing. I almost wanted to suicide when seeing this. i was definitively drunk, fixed.
02:04:779 (2,3,4,5,1) - Try to get a neat curve here instead of .. something like this (looks really .. squary) Alright tried my best.

I think I pointed up most stuff, but I think you need to go through the diff yourself and clean it up a bit more; of course it’s your first map, and of course I’ll consider this, yet we should try to get the best result as possible for now. I was drunk, sorry.

[Normal]

00:07:565 (4) - DS Fix
00:09:941 (3) - Thats a really straight flow here, I don’t really like that because in my opinion there are things that play way better than this; how about moving it down a bit, or even make it curve pointing up to the top?Remapped that shit
00:17:835 (1,2,3,4) - This sounds really spammy. Please get rid of the heavy note density here; it will sound much calmer and more appropriate for an normal. Dunno yet, it's because i like them. I know my normal look kinda hard, but I kinda like it when it's a bit more hard-ish. And transforming all of these. It's true, i've gone a bit mad on the spammy 1/2. But in the same time changing them will force me a full remap.
00:23:448 (6,1,2,3,4) - ^
00:29:641 - Where’s the circle here? Add one please. Where is it .3.
00:37:190 (2,3,4,5) - And as well, I think this is too hard for a normal.. oh well.
00:46:093 (2) - Bad transition; try to get a better overall- curve here with rotating slider 2! Overall is just bad. I replaced it with 2 circle instead.
00:48:415 - Unnecessary circle, please get rid of it. There is no circle here? o.o Maybe i forgot to upload lol
00:54:996 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
01:01:190 (2,3,4,5) - ^
01:07:577 (2) - I miss the empahsized beat 01:07:964 - which is here, but sadly it’s completely ignored; how about ending the slider there to give it a better emphasis? Yep. Fixed.
01:20:457 (2,3,4) - I think this is more appropriate for a normal, however, you ignore two downbeats again here.
01:32:263 (1) - o_O ..that’s probably really weird to play this, because it’s really inconsistent andl et’s be honest; is it worth that for a plain curve? I don’t think so. Keep the rhythm here. Ok, true, pure bullshit. Fixed. Remapped the part.
01:50:844 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think as well, many normal player will miss here because the rhythm is quite complicated.
01:53:941 (1) - ^ like 01:07:577 (2)
02:00:134 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Nothing against you now but the map was ookaaayyish so far, but this looks like you just wanted to end it and didn’t consider things properly anymore. The rhythm is strange and 02:02:070 (7,8,1) - patterns like these are really questionable. Please rework this little part a bit! Don't really understand... But did something?

Will mod Lunatic later, I Need a break xD Sorry, my map sucks, anyway huge thanks, i'll be remembering all the single thing you said.

baraatje123

baraatje123 wrote:

Hello, little mod here Thank you!
[General]
Remove Timing Point at 126328, it ends here, and does NOT change anything, since the maps is already over It was in case, maybe some GD wanted to map until th eending, who knows... I'll let it for now.
[Beginner]
00:09:149 (2) - This is beginner, so don't do this, Since it is even below easy, stick to 1/1 only, and nothing less, so 3/2 is allowed It's ok. Orelse it look very bad.
00:48:996 (4,5) - Might be too high spacing, consider lowing to 1.00 That would break all the constanthingy of the map o.O Same for down.
01:05:254 (2) - See above
01:08:351 (3) - ^
01:14:544 (2) - ^
01:26:457 (4,5) - See above
02:05:554 (4) - Remove Clap (Add Whistle) This one is IMO the only Clap which feels bad Everyone hate those claps so much ;-; But really, for me a whistle feels too low on this part.

For the rest good diff

[Easy]
HP +1
OD + 1
All the NC are optional, unless notified placng those NC would break the constanthingy
00:03:604 (4) - NC
00:04:396 (5) - Make it a single note, at 00:04:396 Nah, I like it like that.
00:06:772 (4) - NC
00:09:940 (4) - NC
00:14:932 (1,4,1,2) - Try to use less 1/2 in Easy diffs (I will not repeat this in this mod!) All 1/2 were removed.
00:19:577 (4) - Overlap with (1,2) fixed ~.~ completely remapped the part into something that look nice
00:22:286 (3) - NC
00:50:157 (3) - NO kicksliders in Easy diffs remove the reverses, and make a 2nd slider Yes, changed this part.
01:48:909 (3) - Make it a note, only at the end of the slider, so at 01:49:296 Don't really understand :o
Rest is fine

[Normal]

Same speed as Easy ○.○ This mapset sucks it should go to grave
Might be too hard, because of the 1/2 sliderspam I like it this way.
Because of this, I recommend using Slider Tick 2 I'll see what other says.


00:02:812 (3,4) - Better as slider, because it is still a low diff, but it does have 2 diffs lower than this, so it is okay Lol why not
01:26:070 (1) - No Kickslider It's alright to have some in normals. Maybe for easy it isn't but for normal it's ok.
01:32:263 (1) - Trail goes out of bounds? Hits HP bar. NO Don't do this Ok vocaloid-addict-senpai
01:52:779 (6) - I don't feel this, you can make it 1/2 Uh, senapi, it sounds completely off...
01:57:038 (1) - Please make it 1/1 instead of 3/2 But i like the soudning .3.

[Lunatic Collab]
Check AiMod: Kiai Is unsnapped at 00:39:329
00:04:595 (1,2) - What Blame Ef, he seems to like these.
00:07:763 (5,6) - ^^
00:09:347 (4,5) - ^^
00:48:609 (1) - Kickslider Yes, kickslider. I love this pattern, and exept if someone give me a proper explanation to why i should remove it, i'll be keepin' it.
Good map for the rest

Good Luck, getting this good map ranked!
I expect that to happen soon :D MAP IS TOO SHITTY TO BE RANKED

Thanks for the mod, both of you.
DenoisoGoiso
o.o
Topic Starter
Winek

DenoisoGoiso wrote:

o.o
wat is it
Gexigamma
Okay, here is my weird half-irc half-post mod.
as you may know i can only point out unimportant things, so feel free to disagree with everything.
IRC Mod (Beginner diff)
15:10 Winek: ok sorry my internet pooped
15:10 Winek: u here
15:10 Gexigamma: ok
15:10 Winek: you updated?
15:10 Winek: coz i updated and it work
15:11 Gexigamma: yep it's updated
15:11 Winek: ok lets start with beginner
15:11 Winek: if you find anything that ccan be improved please tell me
15:12 Winek: uh wait 2 sec
15:12 Gexigamma: okok
15:12 Winek: ok lets continue
15:12 Gexigamma: *start
15:13 Gexigamma: im a bit slow with this btw orz
15:13 Winek: its ok
15:13 Winek: anything you can find will be useful
15:17 Winek: so did you find something
15:18 Gexigamma: only nazi things
15:18 Gexigamma: for example
15:18 Gexigamma: 00:12:317 (2) - maybe a straight slider fits better
15:18 Gexigamma: since its very small
15:18 Gexigamma: imo
15:18 Gexigamma: and 00:45:512 (1,2) -
15:19 Winek: ye.
15:19 Gexigamma: mirror these
15:19 Winek: wow shit its ugl
15:19 Winek: ugly*
15:20 Winek: ye i fixed both
15:21 Gexigamma: ok
15:21 Gexigamma: 02:06:328 - why here it's a red point?
15:21 Winek: actually i tought i would map it
15:21 Winek: but in the end i didnt
15:23 Gexigamma: 02:06:328 (1) - what about using a finish here?
15:23 Winek: lol why didnt i use a finish lol
15:23 Winek: im stupid
15:26 Gexigamma: 00:33:125 (1,2,3,4) - these looks like random placed
15:27 Winek: they actually form a tilted square
15:27 Gexigamma: yeah but maybe using the "Create polygons circle" thing fits better
15:28 Gexigamma: and rotating it anticlockwise
15:30 Gexigamma: nvm that is hard to do cuz u need x2.6 DS
15:33 Winek: xd
15:33 Winek: BRB
15:33 Gexigamma: k
16:56 Winek: Gex i need help
16:56 Winek: please puush me to .osu of lunatic collab
16:56 Gexigamma: ok waitt
16:56 Winek: it screwed up
16:57 Winek: stupid virtual memori
16:57 Winek: helplease ;-;
16:57 Gexigamma: http://puu.sh/8zeUR.osu
16:59 Winek: thanks you
16:59 Gexigamma: ;)
17:00 Gexigamma: im having a wonderful headache orz
17:00 Gexigamma: i need...
17:00 Gexigamma: n-need..
17:00 Gexigamma: a kissu plz
17:00 Winek: maybe ~:3
17:01 Gexigamma: im dying ;w;
17:01 Gexigamma: p-please...
17:01 Winek: maaaaaaybe ~:3
17:01 Gexigamma: i think i
17:02 Gexigamma: i-i-i...
17:02 Winek: ok i give up xD
17:02 *Winek give you a kissu
17:02 Gexigamma: :D
17:02 Gexigamma: just in time
17:02 Gexigamma: otherwise i was going to puke :P
17:06 Winek: are u ok
17:07 Gexigamma: lol srsly no
17:07 Gexigamma: :(
17:07 Gexigamma: can we finish the moddinging thing?
17:07 Gexigamma: or are you busy?
17:08 Winek: let do it ^^
17:09 Winek: lets start with beginner pls
17:09 Gexigamma: i think i have pointed all in that diff orz
17:09 Gexigamma: oh wait
17:10 Gexigamma: 01:04:093 (1)
17:10 Winek: i must still improve it myself
17:10 Winek: shit wtf is that slider
17:10 Gexigamma: improve that blankelit
17:10 Winek: yes pls
17:12 Gexigamma: 01:39:618 (5,6) - and what about lowering these
17:12 Gexigamma: so the arrow of the slider looks like pointing at it
17:13 Winek: waddya mean
17:13 Winek: puush it to me
17:14 Gexigamma: http://puu.sh/8zgme.jpg
17:15 Gexigamma: O.o
17:16 Winek: oh ok
17:16 Winek: done
17:16 Gexigamma: 01:40:779 (7,1) - same w these
17:16 Gexigamma: jic
17:21 Gexigamma: i think it's all finew
17:23 Gexigamma: hmmm
17:24 Gexigamma: 02:01:683 (2) - ctrl + g ?
17:24 Winek: too much ds problems
17:24 Gexigamma: :P
17:25 Gexigamma: but maybe rotating 02:00:134 (1,2) - anticlockwise
17:27 Winek: hmm
17:27 Gexigamma: puush?
17:27 Winek: actually nvm i found out a solution
17:27 Winek: i ctrl g (2)

[Easy]
  1. 00:25:770 (4) - Replace this with a fliped copy of 00:24:609 (2)
  2. 00:35:835 (4,1) - This part might be confusing for a newbie. I'd suggest lowering (4) to (160;280), rotating (1) 90º anticlockwise and moving it to (88,196). You will also need to move 00:36:996 (2,3,4,5,1)
  3. 01:14:544 (2) - Ctrl + G ? For a better flow
  4. 01:52:779 (4,1) - Fix this overlap
  5. 02:02:844 (5,1) - Improve blanket here
  6. 02:04:779 (2,3,4,5,1) - Use "Convert slider to stream" here. It's seems a bit... not curvy enough.
[Normal]This mod seems like a joke... but it doesn't ;w;
  1. At the beginning you have some straaaight, boring, horizontal, winxy sliders. I'd suggest to slightly rotate some of them.
  2. 00:14:932 (1,2,3) - Make these more curvier. Sth like this:
  3. 00:16:093 (4,5,6) - Same ^^
  4. 00:22:286 (4,5) - Same ^^
  5. 00:33:125 (1,2,3) - Same ^^ (I need to see the sliders perfect orz)
  6. 02:03:231 (1,2,3) - Same ^^ (Last one, I swear ;w;)
  7. 02:20:121 (97,98,99) - Same ^^ (ok no)
[Guest Hard]This is ok imo :)

[Lunatic Collab]Yay! Nice diff, I love it ♥
The only part i didn't like is from 02:00:134 to the end.
It feels like you ran out of creativity and said "hmmhm... okay... I need to map 6 secs of the song and it will be finished. Why not adding random straight notes? *pip pup pip* Ready! yay! Now submit... BSS... BSS plz let me upload... ffff"
I highly suggest to remap this part. It won't take you much time.

EDIT: I suck at modding ;w;
Topic Starter
Winek
fixing tonight bby
LunarSakuya
here is the Easy~
if you add it, don't forget lunarsakuya in tags lol

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Kaguya Hourain

Dariano wrote:

[Kaguya's hard]

00:39:329 - Kiai time isn't snapped! Correct offset for it would be 39319. :arrow: Thank you for noticing, fixed.
01:10:286 (1,2) - Fix the overlap :o :arrow: This is not an overlap, it's slider stacking!
01:50:844 (1,2,3) - This is kind of complicated, I think this would be a better pattern. http://puu.sh/826mG.jpg :arrow: Makes it inconsistent.

Loved the SB and the map was fun too, good luck on the rank!

Here's a lil' star~
Thank you for the mod.

Sweet Vanilla wrote:

[Kaguya's Hard]
  1. 00:13:691 (2) - move to 272,116 for consistent spacing (bpm changed :arrow: Triangles.
  2. 01:15:915 (2) - 340,100 :arrow: Triangles.
Thanks! :3
Kaguya Hourain

Irreversible wrote:

[Kaguya’s Hard]

00:08:357 (1) - I think it’s easy to avoid the overlap here. 409 168 ? :arrow: Fixed in more ways than one.
00:10:535 (1) - Not sure what you tried to do here but the rhythm as well as the placement seems odd to me. I guess a stack would be okay. :arrow: The rhythm fit the drum but I think the placement is weird as well, changing to a stack.
00:18:803 (4,5,6) - Avoid those tiny overlaps please. :arrow: Done.
00:22:867 (2) - Try to get an even better blanket here! :arrow: Tried, probably succeeded.
00:23:835 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Well you can see really well that you’ve simply run out of space here, but it doesn’t look so neat to be honest. Try to get another placement for them to avoid unnecessary overlaps. :arrow: I don't think there were any overlaps, changed the pattern anyway.
00:31:577 (9) - NC? :arrow: Would be consistent pattern-wise, but inconsistent with the rest of my NC.
00:31:964 (10) - Doesn’t look too appealing again, and i’m not sure about the flow.. what about another slider shape here? :arrow: Fixed, sorta.
00:36:222 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is personal opinion now, feel free to deny; but this plays really poor, especially in a hard diff. The movement that this creates, it’s just really meh. Try to get a zickzack pattern or something, it will be way better. :arrow: It looks nice, plus I get feedback that my diff is "too hard at some places" so I'm keeping this easy peasy part.
01:38:457 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Like this, it’s really good~ :arrow: Huh, I found that uninspirational but thanks! <3

Please get rid of all overlaps (except it really looks outstandingly good, what I doubt), there are really many, and it just looks unprofessional made if you ask me. The map itself is ok, except the mentioned overlaps.. but I just stopped pointing them out after 0:36. :arrow: Fixed every overlap, I'm really surprised I had this change of heart.
Thank you so much for a good mod (finally)!

Here is the new diff: http://puu.sh/8BjFC.osu
I will post more changes later with my own hitsounds if you don't mind.
Topic Starter
Winek
studying atm, will add both diff as soon as possible!
Mao
I'm forced to post this, you wont get my banner, I'm so mean I mean, we've fixed some spacing, a consistency issue and talked about about transition

"Mod"
2014-05-09 00:11 Mao: your spacing is a bit inconsitent
2014-05-09 00:11 Mao: which shouldn't be the case in Normal
2014-05-09 00:11 Winek: where is that
2014-05-09 00:11 Winek: i correctly used distance snap =.=
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: 00:15:319 (3) - for example
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: 0,91 to the next object
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: even tho you standard spacing is 1,00
2014-05-09 00:12 Winek: oops.
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: but also some 0,04 variation was found
2014-05-09 00:12 Winek: yeah i guess editors troll
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: which is a bit big variation
2014-05-09 00:12 Winek: WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: 00:06:772 (3) -
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: next 1,05
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: 00:07:564 (4) - next 1,04
2014-05-09 00:13 Winek: ._.
2014-05-09 00:13 Winek: feexed
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: also some transitions could be better, especially since it's Normal
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: lemme get an example
2014-05-09 00:13 Winek: ok
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: wait a sec
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: takes me a bit
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: 00:06:772 (3,4,1) -
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: lemme explain
2014-05-09 00:14 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:15 Winek: it looks ugly i should remap this part
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EDwc.jpg
2014-05-09 00:15 Winek: also the blanket with 00:07:960 (1,2) - is crappy
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: I think the movement doesn't feel smooth
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: following the slider's curve would feel smoother
2014-05-09 00:15 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: but going upwards here breaks the flow a bit for me :/
2014-05-09 00:16 Mao: I think these transitions are very important for easier diffs
2014-05-09 00:16 Winek: yeah you're right
2014-05-09 00:16 Mao: since they should be as smooth as possible to give the player a nice experience C:
2014-05-09 00:16 Winek: but following it here would break all the map
2014-05-09 00:16 Winek: also i must admit it's kinda my mapping style
2014-05-09 00:16 Mao: yeah of course
2014-05-09 00:17 Mao: I just want to tell you that it doesn't play well to me, so it's just my personal view of it I guess :bb
2014-05-09 00:17 Winek: yeah
2014-05-09 00:17 Winek: ill take that for my next map
2014-05-09 00:17 Mao: Isn't 00:09:148 (3,4) - the same as 00:05:980 (2) - ?
2014-05-09 00:18 Mao: Probably you could change them to be both the same for consistency
2014-05-09 00:18 Winek: true
2014-05-09 00:18 Mao: modding Normals and Easies is such a pain for somebody who can't feel an Easy/Normal-Player's playing experience
2014-05-09 00:18 Winek: changed 00:09:148 (3,4) - into slider
2014-05-09 00:18 Mao: yeah, good choice
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: myeslf am an easy-normal player
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: i suck at osu if you look at my top ranks and etc
2014-05-09 00:19 Mao: yeah :/
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: wow
2014-05-09 00:19 Mao: my highest rank was 1,298
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: changing into slider make i perfect <3
2014-05-09 00:20 Mao: but I play better than a friend of mine who is #500 LOL
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: mine was somewhere around 100000 biiiitch please orz
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: well
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: i could get super rank by spamming ENH on each single mapset
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: and some easy insanes
2014-05-09 00:20 Mao: I'm playing AR8 Insane + DT :/
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: IPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIOEPGNAFPAOEGMPAOEMNGPAMGNEPOIWAPOWOPEAMNGPNPGAIEMNPOANIGMPABIMBPODMNAEBPBDMENPQWP_^)/Q)QJH_^WH)W%Y/YHB>SBS
2014-05-09 00:21 Mao: I don't want to buy cheese
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: but i really wanted to sell you some cheese
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: i need money for my sick mom
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: I'm sorry
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: ;____________________;
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: I'll buy all your cheese
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: since cheese is awesome
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: I can put cheese into my shower
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: and wash it
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: LOL
2014-05-09 00:22 Winek: i wash myself with cheese
2014-05-09 00:23 Winek: it feel so good
2014-05-09 00:23 Mao: :D
2014-05-09 00:23 Mao: 00:14:932 (1,2,3,4) - I think here's another of these transition issues, flows really bad to me. I'd make the triplet pointing to the slider to get the player actually a bit prepared to go down the curve
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: so he doesn't have to turn a lot
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: but well, I think modding this wont make sense
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: since it's all over the map and it's you style I guess
2014-05-09 00:24 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: I have to leave now
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: can we talk tomorrow again? :/
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: sure
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: just a minute..
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: yeah
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: you mena to do like http://puu.sh/8EEca/5df5d9808d.jpg this
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: ?
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: or something like that
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: yeah, just move the slider a bit lower
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: so that it creates a fluent curve
2014-05-09 00:26 Mao: so in the gap the player actually sees that he has to go down right now
2014-05-09 00:26 Mao: and following the curve he already starts doing that a bit
2014-05-09 00:26 Mao: which makes a smooth transition to me
2014-05-09 00:26 Winek: but i just don't like the way it is..
2014-05-09 00:27 Mao: how?
2014-05-09 00:27 Mao: the example?
2014-05-09 00:27 Winek: and its only on this map
2014-05-09 00:27 Winek: no the transition yer talking about
2014-05-09 00:28 Mao: so what do you dislike
2014-05-09 00:28 Mao: the transition in this map?
2014-05-09 00:28 Winek: on this map/song
2014-05-09 00:28 Winek: i like to do that in other maps
2014-05-09 00:28 Winek: oh yeah i remember..
2014-05-09 00:29 Winek: http://puu.sh/8EEt4/8ac6a849da.jpg
2014-05-09 00:29 Winek: i just can't fit in the perfet location
2014-05-09 00:29 Mao: try to make it just like one curve
2014-05-09 00:29 Mao: lemme give you a tiip
2014-05-09 00:30 Winek: ok 5 bucks pls
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: create a curved slider
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: 00:27:706 (1) -
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: oops
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: lol
2014-05-09 00:30 Winek: lolwattt
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEy2.jpg
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: i dislike those kind of sliders when it's way too curved
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: actually
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: what i dislike in sliders i just realized it.
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: that's just an example asasghasgash
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: you can use curved sliders like patterns for curves
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EECk.jpg
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: just put your others over it
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: http://puu.sh/8EEEz/9b020767fc.jpg
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: and remove the pattern
2014-05-09 00:32 Winek: :o
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEGI.jpg
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: -> perfect curve transition
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: lol
2014-05-09 00:32 Winek: i hate sliders that are too curvy and make a weak line between end/start
2014-05-09 00:32 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:33 Winek: i still think it's unequal
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: it is, but if you want curve movement
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: alsoooo
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: convert slider to stream is your friend
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: xD
2014-05-09 00:34 Mao: you can use this for awesome stuff as well
2014-05-09 00:34 Winek: ye i guess
2014-05-09 00:34 Winek: actuallly i hate sliders that are too curved..
2014-05-09 00:34 Mao: me too
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: well I love it for longer sliders
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: 00:31:190 (5) -
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: is ugly
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: if they fit with the other ones
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: i seem to have a problem
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: replace with a rotated version of 00:30:028 (1) -
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: xD
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: i never want any straight slider
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEWM.jpg
2014-05-09 00:36 Winek: even 00:28:867 (5) -
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: use just slightly curved slders
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEY7.jpg
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: never do that
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: always have the end point in the tails centre
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: otherwise your slider looks stretched
2014-05-09 00:37 Winek: uh wat
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EF1l.jpg
2014-05-09 00:37 Winek: but the slider look nice :c
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: but it could look smoother
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: ><
2014-05-09 00:37 Winek: anyway i did what you asked c:
2014-05-09 00:38 Mao: ^^
Topic Starter
Winek

Mao wrote:

I'm forced to post this, you wont get my banner, I'm so mean I mean, we've fixed some spacing, a consistency issue and talked about about transition

"Mod"
2014-05-09 00:11 Mao: your spacing is a bit inconsitent
2014-05-09 00:11 Mao: which shouldn't be the case in Normal
2014-05-09 00:11 Winek: where is that
2014-05-09 00:11 Winek: i correctly used distance snap =.=
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: 00:15:319 (3) - for example
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: 0,91 to the next object
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: even tho you standard spacing is 1,00
2014-05-09 00:12 Winek: oops.
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: but also some 0,04 variation was found
2014-05-09 00:12 Winek: yeah i guess editors troll
2014-05-09 00:12 Mao: which is a bit big variation
2014-05-09 00:12 Winek: WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: 00:06:772 (3) -
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: next 1,05
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: 00:07:564 (4) - next 1,04
2014-05-09 00:13 Winek: ._.
2014-05-09 00:13 Winek: feexed
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: also some transitions could be better, especially since it's Normal
2014-05-09 00:13 Mao: lemme get an example
2014-05-09 00:13 Winek: ok
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: wait a sec
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: takes me a bit
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: 00:06:772 (3,4,1) -
2014-05-09 00:14 Mao: lemme explain
2014-05-09 00:14 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:15 Winek: it looks ugly i should remap this part
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EDwc.jpg
2014-05-09 00:15 Winek: also the blanket with 00:07:960 (1,2) - is crappy
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: I think the movement doesn't feel smooth
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: following the slider's curve would feel smoother
2014-05-09 00:15 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:15 Mao: but going upwards here breaks the flow a bit for me :/
2014-05-09 00:16 Mao: I think these transitions are very important for easier diffs
2014-05-09 00:16 Winek: yeah you're right
2014-05-09 00:16 Mao: since they should be as smooth as possible to give the player a nice experience C:
2014-05-09 00:16 Winek: but following it here would break all the map
2014-05-09 00:16 Winek: also i must admit it's kinda my mapping style
2014-05-09 00:16 Mao: yeah of course
2014-05-09 00:17 Mao: I just want to tell you that it doesn't play well to me, so it's just my personal view of it I guess :bb
2014-05-09 00:17 Winek: yeah
2014-05-09 00:17 Winek: ill take that for my next map
2014-05-09 00:17 Mao: Isn't 00:09:148 (3,4) - the same as 00:05:980 (2) - ?
2014-05-09 00:18 Mao: Probably you could change them to be both the same for consistency
2014-05-09 00:18 Winek: true
2014-05-09 00:18 Mao: modding Normals and Easies is such a pain for somebody who can't feel an Easy/Normal-Player's playing experience
2014-05-09 00:18 Winek: changed 00:09:148 (3,4) - into slider
2014-05-09 00:18 Mao: yeah, good choice
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: myeslf am an easy-normal player
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: i suck at osu if you look at my top ranks and etc
2014-05-09 00:19 Mao: yeah :/
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: wow
2014-05-09 00:19 Mao: my highest rank was 1,298
2014-05-09 00:19 Winek: changing into slider make i perfect <3
2014-05-09 00:20 Mao: but I play better than a friend of mine who is #500 LOL
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: mine was somewhere around 100000 biiiitch please orz
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: well
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: i could get super rank by spamming ENH on each single mapset
2014-05-09 00:20 Winek: and some easy insanes
2014-05-09 00:20 Mao: I'm playing AR8 Insane + DT :/
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: IPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIIPEONIAPEIOEPGNAFPAOEGMPAOEMNGPAMGNEPOIWAPOWOPEAMNGPNPGAIEMNPOANIGMPABIMBPODMNAEBPBDMENPQWP_^)/Q)QJH_^WH)W%Y/YHB>SBS
2014-05-09 00:21 Mao: I don't want to buy cheese
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: but i really wanted to sell you some cheese
2014-05-09 00:21 Winek: i need money for my sick mom
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: I'm sorry
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: ;____________________;
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: I'll buy all your cheese
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: since cheese is awesome
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: I can put cheese into my shower
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: and wash it
2014-05-09 00:22 Mao: LOL
2014-05-09 00:22 Winek: i wash myself with cheese
2014-05-09 00:23 Winek: it feel so good
2014-05-09 00:23 Mao: :D
2014-05-09 00:23 Mao: 00:14:932 (1,2,3,4) - I think here's another of these transition issues, flows really bad to me. I'd make the triplet pointing to the slider to get the player actually a bit prepared to go down the curve
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: so he doesn't have to turn a lot
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: but well, I think modding this wont make sense
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: since it's all over the map and it's you style I guess
2014-05-09 00:24 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:24 Mao: I have to leave now
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: can we talk tomorrow again? :/
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: sure
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: just a minute..
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: yeah
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: you mena to do like http://puu.sh/8EEca/5df5d9808d.jpg this
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: ?
2014-05-09 00:25 Winek: or something like that
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: yeah, just move the slider a bit lower
2014-05-09 00:25 Mao: so that it creates a fluent curve
2014-05-09 00:26 Mao: so in the gap the player actually sees that he has to go down right now
2014-05-09 00:26 Mao: and following the curve he already starts doing that a bit
2014-05-09 00:26 Mao: which makes a smooth transition to me
2014-05-09 00:26 Winek: but i just don't like the way it is..
2014-05-09 00:27 Mao: how?
2014-05-09 00:27 Mao: the example?
2014-05-09 00:27 Winek: and its only on this map
2014-05-09 00:27 Winek: no the transition yer talking about
2014-05-09 00:28 Mao: so what do you dislike
2014-05-09 00:28 Mao: the transition in this map?
2014-05-09 00:28 Winek: on this map/song
2014-05-09 00:28 Winek: i like to do that in other maps
2014-05-09 00:28 Winek: oh yeah i remember..
2014-05-09 00:29 Winek: http://puu.sh/8EEt4/8ac6a849da.jpg
2014-05-09 00:29 Winek: i just can't fit in the perfet location
2014-05-09 00:29 Mao: try to make it just like one curve
2014-05-09 00:29 Mao: lemme give you a tiip
2014-05-09 00:30 Winek: ok 5 bucks pls
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: create a curved slider
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: 00:27:706 (1) -
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: oops
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: lol
2014-05-09 00:30 Winek: lolwattt
2014-05-09 00:30 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEy2.jpg
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: i dislike those kind of sliders when it's way too curved
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: actually
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: what i dislike in sliders i just realized it.
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: that's just an example asasghasgash
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: you can use curved sliders like patterns for curves
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EECk.jpg
2014-05-09 00:31 Mao: just put your others over it
2014-05-09 00:31 Winek: http://puu.sh/8EEEz/9b020767fc.jpg
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: and remove the pattern
2014-05-09 00:32 Winek: :o
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEGI.jpg
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: -> perfect curve transition
2014-05-09 00:32 Mao: lol
2014-05-09 00:32 Winek: i hate sliders that are too curvy and make a weak line between end/start
2014-05-09 00:32 Winek: hmm
2014-05-09 00:33 Winek: i still think it's unequal
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: it is, but if you want curve movement
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: alsoooo
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: convert slider to stream is your friend
2014-05-09 00:33 Mao: xD
2014-05-09 00:34 Mao: you can use this for awesome stuff as well
2014-05-09 00:34 Winek: ye i guess
2014-05-09 00:34 Winek: actuallly i hate sliders that are too curved..
2014-05-09 00:34 Mao: me too
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: well I love it for longer sliders
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: 00:31:190 (5) -
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: is ugly
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: if they fit with the other ones
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: i seem to have a problem
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: replace with a rotated version of 00:30:028 (1) -
2014-05-09 00:35 Mao: xD
2014-05-09 00:35 Winek: i never want any straight slider
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEWM.jpg
2014-05-09 00:36 Winek: even 00:28:867 (5) -
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: use just slightly curved slders
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EEY7.jpg
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: never do that
2014-05-09 00:36 Mao: always have the end point in the tails centre
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: otherwise your slider looks stretched
2014-05-09 00:37 Winek: uh wat
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: http://puu.sh/8EF1l.jpg
2014-05-09 00:37 Winek: but the slider look nice :c
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: but it could look smoother
2014-05-09 00:37 Mao: ><
2014-05-09 00:37 Winek: anyway i did what you asked c:
2014-05-09 00:38 Mao: ^^
thanks for extremely unuseful and shitty very useful mod about transition etc.
Yauxo
#100

Here's my GD Lunatic.
Dont forget to put Yauxo in the tags and complete them in my map as well (it says that there are tag conflicts, so something mustve changed.)

edit: with selected combo colours (as requested by Winek) http://puu.sh/8M7D6.osu
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I kinda want it to be OD9, but I think that'd be overkill.
First try w/o warmup, if anyone cares.
Topic Starter
Winek

Yauxo wrote:

#100

Here's my GD Lunatic.
Dont forget to put Yauxo in the tags and complete them in my map as well (it says that there are tag conflicts, so something mustve changed.)

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I kinda want it to be OD9, but I think that'd be overkill.
First try w/o warmup, if anyone cares.
I will add it only after that i complete my lunatic, and yes i need friggin motivation to finish it. But don't worry, it'll be in the week. I don't want to make small sby small update since it takes alot of time. Just be pacient! And thanks for the GD.
Kaguya Hourain
Hurry hurry hurry this must be finished to rank it! :D
I'll mod the spread once all diffs are submitted and fully mapped.
Topic Starter
Winek

Kaguya Hourain wrote:

Hurry hurry hurry this must be finished to rank it! :D
I'll mod the spread once all diffs are submitted and fully mapped.
Sure, I should mod your diff as well.
Kihhou
M4M from your queue!~

[General]
  1. nutin
[Sakuya's Easy]
  1. couldnt find anything
[Normal]
  1. 00:26:932 (1) - end this at 00:27:319. because theres a significant note there. its not a continuous sound that plays until 00:27:706 (2). it would also be easier for normal players.
  2. 01:00:996 (1) - shorten this so that it is the same as 01:01:577 (2) and the rest. there isnt anything in the music that indicates it's different from the others. if you want it to end on a white tick, you can make 01:02:351 (4) - start at 01:02:157..(if you made the change) and end as a longer slider like this~!
  3. 01:22:973 (1) - same as 00:26:932 (1)
  4. 01:29:167 (1) - ^
  5. 01:47:747 (1) - ^
  6. 01:49:296 (4) - ^
  7. patterns are inconsistent in this diff.. idk :/ im not feeling it
[Kaguya's Hard]
  1. oh my finish abuse *.* i personally reaaaally dont like how overused the finish hitsound is. cymbal crashes arent suppost to happen that often! its suppsot to be that dramatic BOOOOOOSHHHHH you get at the start or finish of something amazing, not on every note :/ i think the sound you might be looking for is the hi-hat sound, which is the normalhitsound, not the finish. theres way too many to list so im going to let you make the best judgment as to which ones you should keep if you decide to remove them. to list a few that i think would be fine to keep is the one at the tail of 00:07:763 (2), head of 00:14:545 (1), head of 00:18:415 (3), starts of kiai times, etc
  2. 00:31:577 (9) - NC so that it's parallel with 00:37:770 (1)'s NC and 01:33:812 (1)'s NC
  3. 01:50:844 (1,2,3) - i would unstack these since its difficult to read. and its difficult to read because theyre all different! one slider has 2 reverses while the other has 1 reverse
[Lunatic]
  1. 00:11:921 (3) - ctrl-g this slider? it would have better going from the previous slider. you also may want to move 00:12:515 (4) if you make this change
  2. 01:00:996 (1,2,3) - in the music, there are two parts where it goes down the scale... how do i explain this.. so on a scale from 1 to 5, pretend that 1 was the highest note and 5 was the lowest. basically this part of the music goes 1-2-3- 1- 3-4-5... two sections have parts that go down in order. 123 and 345 and the note at 01:01:577 is a filler note.. which would be the random "1-" in the middle... oh my lord im so bad at explaining things!!!!! loool basically im suggesting you put the reverse sliders on the 123 part and the 345 part and a hitcircle at 01:01:577 because it better represents the music imo ><. so the new rhythm would be:... and ofc if you take the change youll have to move things around. maybe switch these two 01:01:577 (2,3) -
  3. 01:05:641 (1) - i would change this to hitcircles imo. because a slider feels strange to play in a filler note. it would be better leadup to 01:06:028 (2) -
  4. 02:03:231 (1,2,3) - same thing i talked about at 01:00:996 (1,2,3), but this ones takes a lot more moving around to fix spacing if you do make the change.
    if you do it, one possible way could be to siwtch 02:03:812 (2,3) -... then move everything after 02:04:586 (4) to the right so that 4 stacks ontop of the hitcircle at 02:03:812. i think this would have more flow than the current setup too~
    heres pictures of it if im bad at explaining :X
[Yauxo's Insane]
  1. very fun map! i love it! couldnt find anything other than adding NC at 00:14:545 (2) since it's the beginning of the stanza
Hope this helped~ goodluck
Yauxo

Kihhou wrote:

[Yauxo's Insane]
  1. very fun map! i love it! couldnt find anything other than adding NC at 00:14:545 (2) since it's the beginning of the stanza
Thanks alot :3, changed it (and literally all the combo colours after that ;w;)

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Topic Starter
Winek
Will check the mod and mod your map soon, i'm a bit busy due to exams, finishing em tonight! also i have asperger syndrom
pkk
From your m4m queue~
Nice song

Just a general note: It's not a bad idea to use grid snap (grid size: tiny ftw). It's a lot easier to stack objects this way.

Sakuya's Easy

  • Looks good overall, so I'll just throw in a suggestion.
  1. 01:39:231 (2) - to match the music (the music kind of sounds like it's going back and forth), try copying 01:38:457 (1) - , then ctrl+g and place it next to it.
Normal
  1. 00:18:222 (2,3,4,5) - I think you can find a way to arrange this so it looks nicer, right now it looks a bit messy. If not, then consider changing the rhythm. You can delete 00:18:415 (3,4) - and add a 1/1 slider at 00:18:415 - .
  2. 00:19:577 (6,1) - pretty sure you can just blanket this, it'll look nicer. Same at 00:23:448 (6,1) - , although here it looks like you made a blanket with the second slider at 00:23:448 (6,3) - . I would try to make both of them blankets somehow.
  3. 00:25:190 (4,5,6,7,8) - I think this is fine, but see if this plays out better:

  4. 00:29:641 (6,1) - try to blanket these to make it look nicer. I'll stop mentioning blankets now since I'm not sure if they were all intentional or not.
  5. 00:30:803 (3,4,5) - ctrl+g these and see if the rhythm is better. I think having slider circle slider is better than three circles in a row, but that's just me.
  6. 00:37:577 (3,4) - I would move these right a bit so that the outsides of the objects line up with the outside curve of 00:36:996 (2) - , it'll look better. Kind of like how you did it at 00:45:512 (1,2,3) -
  7. 00:51:706 (1,2,3,4) - hmm try using a different rhythm. Turn 00:52:480 (3,4) - into one 1/1 slider, I think this will match the stretched string instrument sound/synth sound in the music. Same at 00:53:254 (5,6,7,8) - . Since I forgot to mention this during the first kiai time, you might want to look over that as well.

  8. 00:58:286 (2,3) - hm not significant, but consider stacking these. It'll be easier to play if the circle 1/2 distance before a slider is stacked. Might also look better
  9. 01:49:296 (4) - maybe move middle point up one grid to improve blanket with the slider head
  10. 01:50:844 (1,2,3) - hmmm try stacking 01:51:425 (2,3) - so that it will look neater. Current arrangement looks a bit weird, maybe you can find another way to arrange it.

    Overall I would say placement needs the most work, followed by rhythm. Watch out for those blankets, choo choo
Kaguya's Hard

  • The pauses in the kiai time sort of interrupts the flow of the rhythm in the map... (for example in the first kiai time: 00:28:093 - , 00:29:641 - , 00:32:738 - , 00:34:286 - , 00:35:835 - ) Since these pauses are on the beat, it makes them stand out even more. I would consider adding a hit circle in these places to keep up with the beat of the music.
  1. 00:05:585 (2,3) - even though you keep spacing consistent at 1.00x distance snap, the extremely small space between objects like the one here might not look good. I would set spacing to 1.03 - 1.05x for parts like this, just to give it more spacing so that it doesn't feel like the objects are too close to each other.
  2. 00:10:535 (1,2) - NC here is unnecessary, there isn't anything worth emphasizing in the music at this point.
  3. 00:18:415 (3,4,5,6) - try to keep spacing consistent, preferably at 1.1x since you use 1.1x at 00:18:415 (3,4,5,6) - . Increasing the spacing will also make it look neater since the sliders are really close to each other.
  4. 01:10:286 (1,2) - you might want to stack these properly. 01:11:061 (2) - isn't snapped to the grid
  5. 01:34:586 (5,1) - try not to overlap these objects so that it looks nicer.

    Overall, I think placement needs the most work. Watch out for the small spacing between objects and make sure you increase it a bit so it looks better. For example, the space between these objects 00:06:773 (4,1) - .
Lunatic
  1. 00:02:020 (2) - ctrl+g this. The reason for this is because the first note in the melody starts playing when this slider starts, so to indicate this, you would make this slider somewhat different from the previous one. Ctrl+g also makes the pattern more fun to play overall
  2. 00:05:584 (4) - this slider shape is fine since it and the sliders before/after it are played the same time as the melody in the music. However it might be more fun if you ctrl+g it, but it isn't necessary. Also make sure you work on those blankets:
  3. 00:17:641 (1,4) - this will look nicer if the circle was stacked with the tail of the slider. Anyways, move 00:18:609 (4) - to x 341 y 132 for a near perfect stack. This is because when the slider disappears, there will still be an after-image in your mind of the tail, and it might not look neat/appealing if the note that comes after it isn't perfectly stacked. This sort of feeling can be closely related to that of colouring outside of the lines. Same at 00:17:254 (10,5) - , etc. I recall you saying that you don't like the grid turned on or something like that, but grid is useful for stacking things.

    Anyways if you want to stack things without grid, you can place objects directly on another object to snap it to place, as opposed to placing two objects in different places and trying to move one so that it stacks on the other object.
  4. 00:27:512 (4,5) - I don't think this flows very well, try something like this:

    In addition to that, try stacking 00:27:415 (3,6) - and move 00:28:286 (7) - so that it's halfway between the previous and next note.


    You might have to rearrange 00:28:867 (9,10) - to allow for the spacing change in the previous objects.
  5. 00:32:544 (5) - hm see if you can make this rhythm more interesting:

    Shortened repeat slider + added circle at 00:32:932 -
  6. 00:36:222 (1) - try ctrl+g here to improve the flow since the head will end up in the path of the previous repeat slider. The flow into 00:36:609 (2) - will also be good, and the jump can be considered as fun. woohoo
  7. 00:46:286 (5) - consider ctrl+g to improve flow
  8. 00:47:448 (9,10) - try to increase spacing between the objects by a bit so it looks neater. Right now they almost overlap.
  9. 00:55:190 (2) - , 00:55:964 (4) - do you want something fun? Then ctrl+g each of these sliders. funfunfunfunfun! The circular flow created by this is lots of fun. Did I mention that it's fun?
  10. 01:00:609 (11) - might be more fun to play if you ctrl+g this since it will flow better.
  11. 01:10:674 (2,3) - you might want to space these objects out more since the space is pretty small. It might look nicer that way.
  12. 01:13:964 (3,4) - try to blanket this, maybe with the same spacing as 01:13:190 (6,1) - . Make sure to look out for other blankets in the map.
  13. 01:39:231 (3,4) - notice how there is less space between these two sliders than between 01:38:457 (1,2,3) - . Try to make it consistent so that it looks neat.
  14. 01:41:554 (11) - since this occurs on a downbeat and signifies the beginning of the break, it might not be a bad idea to make it a NC for effect. This is similar to how you have a NC at 02:06:328 (1) - , the last note in the song.
  15. 01:48:521 (5) - I would ctrl+g this for better flow. Same at 01:50:457 (11) - , even if the pattern is intentional, I feel like it disrupts the flow too much, and the bad flow stands out more than the pattern.
  16. 01:55:102 (5) - over here is a good example of how ctrl+g changes the flow big time. It ends up being a lot more fun to play when you ctrl+g. Also consider ctrl+g at 01:56:263 (10) -

    Anyways, flow and placement needs work, but flow needs the most work. hue
Yauxo's Insane
  1. 00:26:544 (6,1) - consider having a jump here to emphasize the beginning of the kiai time.
  2. 00:51:319 (1,1) - , 01:53:554 (1,1) - maybe it will look better if you stack the slider under the repeat slider tail
  3. 01:54:715 (3,1) - if you avoid this overlap it might look better

    hmm idk, difficulty looks fine. Lots of jumps, fun for sure.

Have fun mapping! I gave up drawing picture because drawing is 2 hard
Topic Starter
Winek
Kihhou

Kihhou wrote:

M4M from your queue!~ Hi~

[Normal]
  1. 00:26:932 (1) - end this at 00:27:319. because theres a significant note there. its not a continuous sound that plays until 00:27:706 (2). it would also be easier for normal players. Sure for this one.
  2. 01:00:996 (1) - shorten this so that it is the same as 01:01:577 (2) and the rest. there isnt anything in the music that indicates it's different from the others. if you want it to end on a white tick, you can make 01:02:351 (4) - start at 01:02:157..(if you made the change) and end as a longer slider like this~! Actually i'd like to keep this pattern.
  3. 01:22:973 (1) - same as 00:26:932 (1) Sure for this one as well.
  4. 01:29:167 (1) - ^ For variation i'd keep this one.
  5. 01:47:747 (1) - ^
  6. 01:49:296 (4) - ^ The pattern... ^.
  7. patterns are inconsistent in this diff.. idk :/ im not feeling it
The song is extremely repetitive, that's why.

[Lunatic]
  1. 00:11:921 (3) - ctrl-g this slider? it would have better going from the previous slider. you also may want to move 00:12:515 (4) if you make this change Sure.
  2. 01:00:996 (1,2,3) - in the music, there are two parts where it goes down the scale... how do i explain this.. so on a scale from 1 to 5, pretend that 1 was the highest note and 5 was the lowest. basically this part of the music goes 1-2-3- 1- 3-4-5... two sections have parts that go down in order. 123 and 345 and the note at 01:01:577 is a filler note.. which would be the random "1-" in the middle... oh my lord im so bad at explaining things!!!!! loool basically im suggesting you put the reverse sliders on the 123 part and the 345 part and a hitcircle at 01:01:577 because it better represents the music imo ><. so the new rhythm would be:... and ofc if you take the change youll have to move things around. maybe switch these two 01:01:577 (2,3) - Wakarimasta, Fixed.
  3. 01:05:641 (1) - i would change this to hitcircles imo. because a slider feels strange to play in a filler note. it would be better leadup to 01:06:028 (2) - There is a light little sound we hear, it's very faint tho.
  4. 02:03:231 (1,2,3) - same thing i talked about at 01:00:996 (1,2,3), but this ones takes a lot more moving around to fix spacing if you do make the change.
    if you do it, one possible way could be to siwtch 02:03:812 (2,3) -... then move everything after 02:04:586 (4) to the right so that 4 stacks ontop of the hitcircle at 02:03:812. i think this would have more flow than the current setup too~ I'd like to keep this one.
    heres pictures of it if im bad at explaining :X


Hope this helped~ goodluck

Talked IRC with pikyaminyamb.
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Mod request from my queue

Guide
Red is unrankable and must be fixed.
Pink is you should apply this to any similar notes/parts/patterns/whatever it was stated on it.
Mods with question marks (?) are only suggestion/opinion. You're free to choose whether you're going to apply it or not.

Additional notes:
I cannot mod another game modes.
Please reply to my mods, I always looking forward to the replies so I could improve better.
If you think one or more points on my mod is unclear, feel free to ask about it.

Some useful links for mapping:
Analyzing flow in beatmaps
Mapping polarity
How to make beautiful sliders
How to make beautiful sliders (advanced)
Difficulty naming
Advanced Timing

ZUN \:D/

General
  1. SB is kinda.... weird imo.
  2. Are you real about these hitsounds? I mean, there are finishes everywhere, it hurts my ears and covers the music too much D: Yeah I understand there are cymbal sounds in the music, but these finishes usage sounds way too much. Or maybe, if you still want to keep it, tune down the volume a bit so it doesn't really sound that harshly loud
  3. Also consider on utilizing clap or snare sounds (like normal-hitnormal or soft-hitclap or etc) It is weird to have only whistles and finishes here (and they sound too loud either :^P )
  4. Yellow combo colour didn't really fit anything, how about changing it into a bright red?
Sakuya's Easy
  1. 00:20:738 (1) - Not waving enough. Check this guide on how to make it better, and this also applies to any other sliderwaves as well.
  2. 01:55:489 (3,1) - What about http://puu.sh/8S7E1.jpg
Map is already nice, good job!
gina pls

Normal
  1. Put whistles every 1/1, avoid on putting them every 1/2, it sounds way too much (like in triplets)
  2. I think the rest is kinda fine.
Kaguya's Hard
  1. 00:26:932 (3,4) - Blanket?
  2. 00:31:964 (10) - Did you feel like missing some drumwhistle sound?
  3. 01:33:812 (1,2,3,4,5) - If I were you I wouldn't put this here, as the hexagon pattern circles already took place
Yaxuo's Insane
  1. 00:04:792 (4) - Not really. Could you even hit this?
  2. 00:11:128 (4) - ^
  3. 00:19:190 (1,2,3,4,5) - Not "star" enough lol
  4. 00:25:190 - Add note please
  5. Nice enough for the rest
Sorry I couldn't help much, probably because I'm having a headache after those finishes >.<
Good luck anyway!
Topic Starter
Winek

inverness wrote:

Mod request from my queue

Guide
Red is unrankable and must be fixed.
Pink is you should apply this to any similar notes/parts/patterns/whatever it was stated on it.
Mods with question marks (?) are only suggestion/opinion. You're free to choose whether you're going to apply it or not.

Additional notes:
I cannot mod another game modes.
Please reply to my mods, I always looking forward to the replies so I could improve better.
If you think one or more points on my mod is unclear, feel free to ask about it. Sure.

Some useful links for mapping: Thanks you for those useful links!
Analyzing flow in beatmaps
Mapping polarity
How to make beautiful sliders
How to make beautiful sliders (advanced)
Difficulty naming
Advanced Timing

ZUN \:D/

General
  1. SB is kinda.... weird imo. ;(
  2. Are you real about these hitsounds? I mean, there are finishes everywhere, it hurts my ears and covers the music too much D: Yeah I understand there are cymbal sounds in the music, but these finishes usage sounds way too much. Or maybe, if you still want to keep it, tune down the volume a bit so it doesn't really sound that harshly loud It's only on the Hard difficulty now ; And Kaguya's gonna make an update with his own hitsounds soon, i'm waiting.
  3. Also consider on utilizing clap or snare sounds (like normal-hitnormal or soft-hitclap or etc) It is weird to have only whistles and finishes here (and they sound too loud either :^P ) I just don't like hte usage of clap in this specific song.
  4. Yellow combo colour didn't really fit anything, how about changing it into a bright red?
I did that when i was a noob at mapping, meaning "Day/Night" and red wouldn't fit at al...

Normal
  1. Put whistles every 1/1, avoid on putting them every 1/2, it sounds way too much (like in triplets) Actually i really like them this way.
  2. I think the rest is kinda fine. Thanks for checking.

Sorry I couldn't help much, probably because I'm having a headache after those finishes >.< lol its ok
Good luck anyway! Thanks you!
Yauxo
SPOILER

pkmnyab wrote:

Yauxo's Insane
  1. 00:26:544 (6,1) - consider having a jump here to emphasize the beginning of the kiai time. did something to that to keep the overlap
  2. 00:51:319 (1,1) - , 01:53:554 (1,1) - maybe it will look better if you stack the slider under the repeat slider tail I like it this way
  3. 01:54:715 (3,1) - if you avoid this overlap it might look better true, changed

inverness wrote:

Yaxuo's Insane
  1. 00:04:792 (4) - Not really. Could you even hit this?
  2. 00:11:128 (4) - ^ yes, you can, pretty easy actually. Key1 into Key2 does the job
  3. 00:19:190 (1,2,3,4,5) - Not "star" enough lol its not supposed to be "star"
  4. 00:25:190 - Add note please iam going for the loud hits here. There is a quiet one, yes, but I'd rather not map this one
  5. Nice enough for the rest
Sorry I couldn't help much, probably because I'm having a headache after those finishes >.< changed overall hitsoundvolume for less headache
Good luck anyway! what a polite bye though

Notes inside, diff below

SPOILER
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 76075
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
EpilepsyWarning: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

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DistanceSpacing: 1.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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TitleUnicode:Stirring an Autumn Moon ~ Mooned Insect
Artist:ZUN
ArtistUnicode:ZUN
Creator:Winek
Version:Yauxo's Insane
Source:Touhou
Tags:wriggle nightbug th 8 IN imperishable night kaguya hourain lunarsakuya yauxo
BeatmapID:417968
BeatmapSetID:155051

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:2
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pishifat


Winek wrote:

sure, and if you want me to mod it right now, try M4M :P
and now we're here

General

  1. timing is off. can't believe that no other modders caught this, but during the first short section, you'll want to set your bpm to 151 instead of 151.5. with this change you'll see that instead of being really out of sync, the next timing point is only 1 millisecond off from being incorporated into smoothtiming (where each new timing tick is snapped to the previous). the timings on each spinner are also different even though they should be the exact same (zun uses copy paste. he's a bad mapper). your timing should be copy paste too for those sections, so make sure they're the exact same. if you need help with timing i have experience with pain.
  2. another thing about timing - in taiko, there are barlines (large white ticks) shown on the playfield thing. in the sections where you created new timing sections more than once per bar, you'd have to get rid of those barlines in taiko. i'm not saying you have to get rid of the timing sections of course though -- just go into the F6 menu, select a timing section that should not be on a white tick (like 00:13:211), go to the "style" tab on the left, and click "omit first bar line." it'll be gone from taiko. so be sure to only do those on places where there should not be a large white tick.
  3. i'd say uncheck widescreen support for storyboard since your images are 4:3, but your bg will soon be 16:9 by ringating

Yauxo's Lunatic

  1. 00:24:996 (3,1) - spacing seems kind of wrong here. i think you would be better if you stacked something them. if you wanted to keep the star shape, i'd do something like
  2. 01:27:231 (3,1) - this jump is really awkward. you've kept consistent distance spacing for the jumps, then all of a sudden you have a jump that reads as if it's just a 1/2 beat away, so i'd suggest eitehr spacing 1 much further away, adding a circle in at 01:27:425 - , or stacking 1 underneath 3 like you did at 00:45:512 (1,2,3,4) -
  3. 1:28:779 (6,7,1) - flow here seems off. throughout the map you kept a pretty circular/curved motion going, but right here you have a sort of hump thing that plays poorly. (adjusting that triangle pattern may be problematic tho)
  4. 01:45:231 (4,1,2) - the way you've got a 1/8 stack and a 1/2 stack right on top of each other makes for some really hard reading. you'd be best off spacing 2 away from 1

Light Insane

  • dunno why the "light" is necessary since lunatic > insane anyway. it isn't a problem i guess tho
  1. hitsound volume is really loud throughout the whole difficulty without change. taking some volume ideas from lunatic wouldn't be a bad idea :P
  2. 00:06:772 (6,7) - not the cleanest blanket here. you'll probably have to decrease the sharpness of the curve on 6 if you want it to be able to hook around 7 cleanly
  3. 00:09:544 - missing a hitobject here. in the previous measure there was no sound at this spot, but in this one there definitely is (and it's pretty loud too :P)
  4. 00:12:750 (1) - i'm pretty sure most of the time you're not supposed to have strong sounds on the ends of spinners. consider taking the hitsound off ot it and ending it on the prior red 1/2 tick, then placing an object the player has to actually hit on the downbeat. (once again take a look at lunatic - second spinner :3)
  5. 00:30:028 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - throughout the kiai time you have combos set to one every two large white ticks, but you separated this section into 1 combo per white tick. in order to keep consistency i'd remove the NC on 00:31:577 (1) -
  6. 00:38:738 (9,10) - the way you handle the last note here is a lot better at 01:40:973 (10,1) - since you don't have the passive slider there
  7. 01:07:964 (3) - i'd say ctrl+G this. it seems weird to have this kind of a stack stack underneath the slider and the alternative way flows pretty well too
  8. 01:10:286 (1) - keep this in line with the semi-curve provided by previous combo's 4,5 and current combo's 2 (you may also notice that the triangle formed by 01:09:706 (3,4,5) - doesn't have equal distance between each note too :P)
  9. 01:11:835 (1,2) - would probably be a good idea to keep these symmetrical since they're in this sort of a wing pattern. should apply to 3 as well - make that exactly across from the two slider tails
  10. 01:13:383 (1) - ctrl+G because it'll match with the arc provided by previous combo and it would be symmetrical with 2 and 3, which seems to be what you were going for
  11. the whole area between 01:04:093 and the upcoming spinner seems like it's supposed to be quieter and easier than the other parts of the song, yet you've got just about the same object density throughout the section. instead try removing 01:05:641 (1) - and 01:08:738 (1) - since there's no actual music going on besides that constant quiet synth thing (which you're not mapping anyway). it'll make the section be more calm than what it currently is to reflect the song. quieter hitsounds there would help too :3
    01:14:932 (1) - same thing i said about first spinner
    01:19:489 (10,1) - not a perfect blanket oh noes
    01:49:683 (8,9) - this part feels wrong. when i first played it, i clicked as if it were a triple since that felt more natural. i get that you're going for variety, so i'd say it's better to go with what you did at 01:37:296 (8,9) - instead since it plays a bit smoother while keeping the same idea

Kaguya's Hard

  1. 00:13:211 (1,2,3) - on a hard difficulty, when there's a timing change like this, i'd really consider not placing circles where there are new bpm markings. it's weird reading something like that if you've never heard the song before. doing a spinner like in the light insane diff woudl be your best bet
  2. 00:25:770 (6) - considering the last 5 notes were straight sliders, you'd probably want to keep this one straight for consistency
  3. 00:30:028 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - these jumps are definitely way too hard for this difficulty
i can't really mod more than here. feels like i'm playing a map from 2010 or something and there's no way i can judge something that i don't know anything about

Sakuya's Easy

i really want to make a pun here for obvious reasons.

the end
Yauxo

pishifat wrote:

Yauxo's Lunatic

  1. 00:24:996 (3,1) - spacing seems kind of wrong here. i think you would be better if you stacked something them. if you wanted to keep the star shape, i'd do something like changed, awesome one :3
  2. 01:27:231 (3,1) - this jump is really awkward. you've kept consistent distance spacing for the jumps, then all of a sudden you have a jump that reads as if it's just a 1/2 beat away, so i'd suggest eitehr spacing 1 much further away, adding a circle in at 01:27:425 - , or stacking 1 underneath 3 like you did at 00:45:512 (1,2,3,4) - changed
  3. 1:28:779 (6,7,1) - flow here seems off. throughout the map you kept a pretty circular/curved motion going, but right here you have a sort of hump thing that plays poorly. (adjusting that triangle pattern may be problematic tho)
    changed the 2 circle and made a slider
  4. 01:45:231 (4,1,2) - the way you've got a 1/8 stack and a 1/2 stack right on top of each other makes for some really hard reading. you'd be best off spacing 2 away from 1 Iam waiting for more opinions on this since I really like it
At school atm, I'll apply mods later, but damn, I just wanted to say that your modding type is awesome. Even a gif. who does this nowadays? *throws imaginary KD*

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Thanks :3
Topic Starter
Winek
Hi pishi, I'll try modding your map and applying your mod later since im busy right now :P
hoshisorakiseki
hello
random mod
metadata:
title:蠢々秋月 ~ Mooned Insect
but i don't know how to spell it...
diff:luantic
00:04:594 (3,4) - i think this is too hard to play...
00:18:609 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i prefer to the same distance
and then... i found many pattern like 00:04:594...
try to map with more diffrent pattern
diff:insane
wow...finish spam
a quiet music with a loud hitsound...
i think most finish in your map can change to whistle or clap
and...so many same pattern, too...try to map more diffrent pattern,too
diff:hard
same as insane
diff:normal and easy
why soooooooooooooo many finish?
try to change them to clap or whistle except the downbeat.
good luck
Topic Starter
Winek

hoshisorakiseki wrote:

hello
random mod
metadata:
title:蠢々秋月 ~ Mooned Insect
but i don't know how to spell it...
diff:luantic
00:04:594 (3,4) - i think this is too hard to play...
00:18:609 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i prefer to the same distance
and then... i found many pattern like 00:04:594...
try to map with more diffrent pattern
diff:insane
wow...finish spam
a quiet music with a loud hitsound...
i think most finish in your map can change to whistle or clap
and...so many same pattern, too...try to map more diffrent pattern,too
diff:hard
same as insane
diff:normal and easy
why soooooooooooooo many finish?
try to change them to clap or whistle except the downbeat.
good luck
Hi, Hoshisorakiseki (how the heck can you remember this username @.@)

Thanks you for your little mod, i'll check it as soon as i can as well as pishi's. By the way, thanks, i forgot i should add japenese name into tags. ( 蠢々秋月 ).
And for the hitsounds, i like them how they are for now.
sjoy
MOD from BMT
just some nazi
Title:蠢々秋月 ~ Mooned Insect
Romanised Title : Stirring an Autumn Moon ~ Mooned Insect check this
[Yauxo's Lunatic]
00:04:990 (5) - remove repeat slider it's overmap
00:08:158 (5) - ^
00:11:326 (5) - ^
about Finish I think you abuse it 01:28:779 (6,7) - remove finish and add whis
[Light Insane]
too much finish on the map _(:30)_
and about 3rd white tick .plz remove the finish I think it's too noisy
00:07:366 (7,8,9) - try to use drum-finish
good luck
Yauxo

sjoy wrote:

[Yauxo's Lunatic]
00:04:990 (5) - remove repeat slider it's overmap
00:08:158 (5) - ^
00:11:326 (5) - ^ I disagree with all of those. The song has those 1/8th parts in it and I also want them to be featured in the diff. I couldve mapped them as 303bpm streams, but .. not really
about Finish I think you abuse it 01:28:779 (6,7) - remove finish and add whis already changed from the mod before (winek has to update)
Ive reworked the hitsounds because why not. I think its batter this way
If you mod my hitsounds, mod in this one pls

SPOILER
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TitleUnicode:Stirring an Autumn Moon ~ Mooned Insect
Artist:ZUN
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Creator:Winek
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Topic Starter
Winek

sjoy wrote:

MOD from BMT
just some nazi
Title:蠢々秋月 ~ Mooned Insect
Romanised Title : Stirring an Autumn Moon ~ Mooned Insect check this
[Yauxo's Lunatic]
00:04:990 (5) - remove repeat slider it's overmap
00:08:158 (5) - ^
00:11:326 (5) - ^
about Finish I think you abuse it 01:28:779 (6,7) - remove finish and add whis
[Light Insane]
too much finish on the map _(:30)_
and about 3rd white tick .plz remove the finish I think it's too noisy
00:07:366 (7,8,9) - try to use drum-finish
good luck
Like again, i'd like to keep those hitsounds. I'll still check if your ideas are better! Also, yes, i'll change the song title.
Ringating

pishifat wrote:

  1. i'd say uncheck widescreen support for storyboard since your images are 4:3, but your bg will soon be 16:9 by ringating
indeed

  1. I added a sort of reflective border to the original bg so that the image doesn't get cropped for 16:9 users. 4:3 users won't be affected by this change. Here's that:
  2. Then there is the darker version of the bg that is used in the storyboard, so I made a similarly 16:9 version of that as well. Here you go:
  3. I also made an alternate darkened version, since the one above increased the image's contrast, while this one does not. As for which one to use, that's up to you. Here's the possible alternate sb image
Topic Starter
Winek

Ringating wrote:

pishifat wrote:

  1. i'd say uncheck widescreen support for storyboard since your images are 4:3, but your bg will soon be 16:9 by ringating
indeed

  1. I added a sort of reflective border to the original bg so that the image doesn't get cropped for 16:9 users. 4:3 users won't be affected by this change. Here's that:
  2. Then there is the darker version of the bg that is used in the storyboard, so I made a similarly 16:9 version of that as well. Here you go:
  3. I also made an alternate darkened version, since the one above increased the image's contrast, while this one does not. As for which one to use, that's up to you. Here's the possible alternate sb image
sorry for late answer! I'm a bit busy right away, but i'll be sure to use images n' 1 & 2! Thanks!
Kaguya Hourain
Kihhou

Kihhou wrote:

M4M from your queue!~
[Kaguya's Hard]
  1. oh my finish abuse *.* i personally reaaaally dont like how overused the finish hitsound is. cymbal crashes arent suppost to happen that often! its suppsot to be that dramatic BOOOOOOSHHHHH you get at the start or finish of something amazing, not on every note :/ i think the sound you might be looking for is the hi-hat sound, which is the normalhitsound, not the finish. theres way too many to list so im going to let you make the best judgment as to which ones you should keep if you decide to remove them. to list a few that i think would be fine to keep is the one at the tail of 00:07:763 (2), head of 00:14:545 (1), head of 00:18:415 (3), starts of kiai times, etc :arrow: This is actually a bug I had totally different hitsounds and when Winek uploaded it it had his old Lunatic's hitsounds. They're all fixed now.
  2. 00:31:577 (9) - NC so that it's parallel with 00:37:770 (1)'s NC and 01:33:812 (1)'s NC :arrow: Fixed. Kinda.
  3. 01:50:844 (1,2,3) - i would unstack these since its difficult to read. and its difficult to read because theyre all different! one slider has 2 reverses while the other has 1 reverse :arrow: I don't know it's not that hard to read. Besides, it's sliders! :D
Hope this helped~ goodluck

pkmnyab

pkmnyab wrote:

From your m4m queue~
Nice song

Kaguya's Hard

  • The pauses in the kiai time sort of interrupts the flow of the rhythm in the map... (for example in the first kiai time: 00:28:093 - , 00:29:641 - , 00:32:738 - , 00:34:286 - , 00:35:835 - ) Since these pauses are on the beat, it makes them stand out even more. I would consider adding a hit circle in these places to keep up with the beat of the music. :arrow: Not really sure about that since the whole concept of this map is based on the stronger notes other than all of them. It might disrupt the flow of the rhythm but if I do that it would disrupt the flow of the entire map. I will consider this though.
  1. 00:05:585 (2,3) - even though you keep spacing consistent at 1.00x distance snap, the extremely small space between objects like the one here might not look good. I would set spacing to 1.03 - 1.05x for parts like this, just to give it more spacing so that it doesn't feel like the objects are too close to each other. :arrow: You have a good point, fixed.
  2. 00:10:535 (1,2) - NC here is unnecessary, there isn't anything worth emphasizing in the music at this point. :arrow: I changed into clap hitsounds to emphasize the strong drum that plays there. Might remove if I get more complaints.
  3. 00:18:415 (3,4,5,6) - try to keep spacing consistent, preferably at 1.1x since you use 1.1x at 00:18:415 (3,4,5,6) - . Increasing the spacing will also make it look neater since the sliders are really close to each other. :arrow: Fixed.
  4. 01:10:286 (1,2) - you might want to stack these properly. 01:11:061 (2) - isn't snapped to the grid :arrow: Fixed.
  5. 01:34:586 (5,1) - try not to overlap these objects so that it looks nicer. :arrow: Stacked them instead.

    Overall, I think placement needs the most work. Watch out for the small spacing between objects and make sure you increase it a bit so it looks better. For example, the space between these objects 00:06:773 (4,1) :arrow: Thanks for the advice :D .
Have fun mapping! I gave up drawing picture because drawing is 2 hard

inverness :3

inverness wrote:

Mod request from my queue

Omagad invernessssss :3

Kaguya's Hard
  1. 00:26:932 (3,4) - Blanket? :arrow: Fixed
  2. 00:31:964 (10) - Did you feel like missing some drumwhistle sound? :arrow: Sorry?
  3. 01:33:812 (1,2,3,4,5) - If I were you I wouldn't put this here, as the hexagon pattern circles already took place :arrow: Well that would end up getting boring amirite?
Sorry I couldn't help much, probably because I'm having a headache after those finishes >.<
Good luck anyway!

pishifat

pishifat wrote:

Kaguya's Hard

  1. 00:13:211 (1,2,3) - on a hard difficulty, when there's a timing change like this, i'd really consider not placing circles where there are new bpm markings. it's weird reading something like that if you've never heard the song before. doing a spinner like in the light insane diff woudl be your best bet :arrow: It's not that huge of a bpm difference and OD is fairly low. It's easily SSable.
  2. 00:25:770 (6) - considering the last 5 notes were straight sliders, you'd probably want to keep this one straight for consistency :arrow: Bu-bb-but, I like my cute blanket :(
  3. 00:30:028 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - these jumps are definitely way too hard for this difficulty :arrow: Agreed, but all maps needs a deathpoint imo.
i can't really mod more than here. feels like i'm playing a map from 2010 or something and there's no way i can judge something that i don't know anything about :arrow: :D 8-)

the end

Thank you for all your mods! Much love :3
Will post the diff later since I can't right now.
Kaguya Hourain
About time I modded this. Let's do this

Sakuya's Easy
  1. Rhythm is excellent well done :D
  2. Maybe AR to 3
  3. 00:24:996 (2) - I don't know if this slider sounds correct. Maybe turn it to circles?
  4. 00:37:383 (2) - Circle + slider?
  5. 01:53:167 (4) - I don't know if the volume should lower there since you changed samples.
Structure is amazing loved this diff.

Normal
  1. Diff settings are good.
  2. I strongly suggest you lose some 1/2 beats. Makes Normal harder than it should be. On to structure~
  3. 00:18:609 (4) - Sliders that start on red ticks usually sound bad. In this case, it does and it play poorly. I would suggest swapping the slider with 00:18:415 (3) and snap accordingly.
  4. 00:55:964 (5,6) - Make these one reverse slider, would make more sense rhythmically.
  5. 01:01:577 (2,3,4) - :D
  6. 01:36:909 (5,6) - More like this please this is really good!
  7. 01:57:038 (1,2) - Also more like this!
    Nothing too major with this diff. The only thing I am really worried about is the blankets. You got much better at making blankets but not all of them are perfect. Try spotting them out since they are too many to post here.

Light Insane
  1. AR to 8 and maybe HP to 6.
  2. 00:08:158 (2,3) - Same as in Normal, I stop posting about this now.
    This is so much better than Normal blanket-wise. Nice flow as well. Nothing too much going on with this map. Well-done!

Yauxo's Lunatic
  1. HP to 7 definitely.
  2. 00:01:624 (1,2) - Overlappppp :D
  3. 00:13:211 (2,1,1) - IIIIIi LOVE THAT!
    Found nothing. These 1/8 are brutal and I worship them. Structure is beyond amazing and the jumps feel really natural. Excellent work :3

That's all from me. Sorry I couldn't help so much but this is already good enough as it is.

Also, have a star~
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