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Nofool

Frostei wrote:

And yeah, I was wondering why they picked Warmogs over GA/Banshee's

Well, things must be a bit different in EU (assuming they play in EU) than the NA servers I play on. Most ADCs go barrier here rather than heal

And again, most people I see build both BOTRK with BT here so meh
depends on your league i guess x_x maybe watch some streams of "pro" adc to be sure
hi im dragon
avoid trading early???? idk you can easily win trades early with vayne because, especially at level 1 if you play it correctly. trade whenever you want, just avoid getting bursted
scottyyy
What level are you playing at Frostei because in diamond all Vaynes I see go Blade - PD - LW - IE/Defensive with no BT. Unless you can get away with BT (i.e, no champs that can zerg you where Blade helps the most) and even then, only people who are super comfortable on Vayne will go BT. Vayne is my most played champ by a long way (1000+ Vayne games, 2nd highest champ 300 games) and I build Blade PD LW almost every game because it's just safer.

You can only trade as Vayne if you're better than your opponent really. I can tell almost instantly if I'm playing someone below plat just based on how they trade when they're against a Vayne. Against people of equal or better skill, you're likely to lose most trades but it also depends on the supports as well.

And yes, everyone runs heal. It's objectively better than barrier.
Vulf
Umm no... Even NA adc's run heal because it's still broken even after the nerfs. Barrier is trash compared to heal now.
DeletedUser_4041880
30, but I haven't been playing much recently. Started the game around the beginning of season 2.

//stopped playing ranked near the end of S2 if that's what you're asking

Guess things changed a lot when I stopped playing for a bit >_>
scottyyy

Frostei wrote:

30, but I haven't been playing much recently. Started the game around the beginning of season 2.

//stopped playing ranked near the end of S2 if that's what you're asking

Guess things changed a lot when I stopped playing for a bit >_>
Yeah I meant level as in skill level, or rank. It generally helps to be up to date on the current state of the game also. :P
Vulf
If you haven't played since patch 4.5 you are in for a surprise because a lot of stuff that was added changed the game.
DeletedUser_4041880

scottyyy wrote:

Frostei wrote:

30, but I haven't been playing much recently. Started the game around the beginning of season 2.

//stopped playing ranked near the end of S2 if that's what you're asking

Guess things changed a lot when I stopped playing for a bit >_>
Yeah I meant level as in skill level, or rank. It generally helps to be up to date on the current state of the game also. :P
Mmm I think I ended up somewhere near Plat. Can't really remember though

Vulf wrote:

If you haven't played since patch 4.5 you are in for a surprise because a lot of stuff that was added changed the game.
Yeah, I guess I should start playing again and stuff
Vulf
This patch is kinda awful to be honest. Most of my friends and I are taking a break until 4.7 goes live.
New jungle item (freelo flare) is ruining games.
BrokenArrow

hi im dragon wrote:

trade whenever you want, just avoid getting bursted
yeah but that's most likely gonna happen early game unless
a) your opponents are trash
b) you are somewhat comfortable on Vayne
and since he asked for beginner tips (I assume?) it means he doesn't know how to play Vayne that well yet, that's why I said avoid trading early if possible

also TIL 6th item SoD is OP on Vayne on low elo
TKiller
Yep, I don't really understand the game at the moment.

Playing some half-hearted rankeds once in a while and that's all for now.

Not really the latest patch, but rather whole direction of balance lately been confusing me, can't really put it into words off the bat though.
hi im dragon

BrokenArrow wrote:

hi im dragon wrote:

trade whenever you want, just avoid getting bursted
yeah but that's most likely gonna happen early game unless
a) your opponents are trash
b) you are somewhat comfortable on Vayne
and since he asked for beginner tips (I assume?) it means he doesn't know how to play Vayne that well yet, that's why I said avoid trading early if possible

also TIL 6th item SoD is OP on Vayne on low elo
no one is trash, you just happen to be better than some
Vulf

TKiller wrote:

Yep, I don't really understand the game at the moment.

Playing some half-hearted rankeds once in a while and that's all for now.

Not really the latest patch, but rather whole direction of balance lately been confusing me, can't really put it into words off the bat though.
Riot doesn't even know what they are doing anymore. If this trend continues League will lose a lot of players or some other Moba will end up taking them.

It's got to the point they have to pretty much remake the jungle mid season because they can't balance for shit. LOL
BrokenArrow
If we just had some kind of test server where Riot could implement things first and then adjust them later
based on the community's response BEFORE they hit public.
Oh wait.
Vulf
A lot of things were definitely complained about on the PBE before they hit live, but Riot ignores us. The PBE players are doing their job. Riot isn't.
Even some major bugs still get through sometimes. I honestly don't even know why there is a pbe server in the first place anymore.
DeletedUser_4041880
I feel like all Riot's doing now is trying to suck out as much money as they can before the game dies
Vulf
I don't think League is anywhere near close to actually dying, though dying is a loose term and varies from person to person.
I can see the player base dropping a lot if things don't shape up in about a year. They have already screwed over thier veteran players so idk.
BrokenArrow
Well, people said the same thing about World of Warcraft (and the player base has dropped substantially, no doubt) but there's still a few million people playing it after so many years. So I think League of Legends, which currently has a much bigger player base than WoW ever had, will stay alive for a whole bunch of years more. I guess.
[- Alex -]

BrokenArrow wrote:

Well, people said the same thing about World of Warcraft (and the player base has dropped substantially, no doubt) but there's still a few million people playing it after so many years. So I think League of Legends, which currently has a much bigger player base than WoW ever had, will stay alive for a whole bunch of years more. I guess.
LoL will die in maximum 10 years. Or 7. Just my opinion.
Sapphiire_old_1
Yeah i agree on this i give league of legends 2 more seasons then the big hype of this game will be kinda over, and some other game will take over another moba, maybe a mmo again ore somthing new
PyaKura
wth, didn't expect to start a whole page about Vayne lul. Anyway, good read, thanks guys. :3
Witch Mercy
New Syndra skin's finally out! c: Woot~ <3
Vulf

BrokenArrow wrote:

Well, people said the same thing about World of Warcraft (and the player base has dropped substantially, no doubt) but there's still a few million people playing it after so many years. So I think League of Legends, which currently has a much bigger player base than WoW ever had, will stay alive for a whole bunch of years more. I guess.
My definition of dead is the game shuts down. This won't happen for a very long time if at all. WoW lost like 4-5 million subs over the course of 3 years which is a lot of people. Heck even heroes of newerth is still kicking and that game went downhill years ago.

I'm pretty sure league is going to lose a lot of it's player base to other Moba's like HotS when that finally launches. With that aside smaller moba's like Smite's population has been increasing steadily over the last few months.
HighSee


Playing normals, but fml if I ever come across a silver or bronzie who knows how to counter Malzahar.
My ranked bronze->silver games look like this too if I play Malzahar actually.
Witch Mercy

HighSee wrote:



Playing normals, but fml if I ever come across a silver or bronzie who knows how to counter Malzahar.
My ranked bronze->silver games look like this too if I play Malzahar actually.
I used to love Malz so much omg. =w=
Sayune
So I guess we all agree, that League was pretty fun at first, but meanwhile it just sucks... I played it since beta.

I hate it, what happened to the game. It used to be fun. And when the game got overhyped the Community started to suck aswell.
That's why I stick to Singleplayer Games... or atleast Multiplayer games where Bad Skill doesn't end up in Total Flame Wars and destroy the fun.
HighSee

Graciee wrote:

HighSee wrote:



Playing normals, but fml if I ever come across a silver or bronzie who knows how to counter Malzahar.
My ranked bronze->silver games look like this too if I play Malzahar actually.
I used to love Malz so much omg. =w=
He's my mid main. I played 14 ranked games last season only. Carried myself from Bronze I -> Silver V with Malz.
I don't play Ranked very seriously anymore. I only care if I get silver awards. Friends tell me to play seriously with them. They're all Gold->Plat players. One of them is diamond. They want me to improve because my mid is comparably decent to Gold (or so they say).

I agree with Shewie. The game had that appeal, but it's not really there for me anymore either.
tyrael6192
i think some of it is down to pure nostalgia but yeah

idk what the fuck they're doing to their game. inb4 season 5 kills are worth 0 gold and champions have no abilities because you don't need abilities to last hit.
hi im dragon
whack-a-dim
Sapphiire_old_1


Blue card salute
[- Alex -]

SoG Tava wrote:



Blue card salute
THE LEGEND!!
Vulf

tyrael6192 wrote:

i think some of it is down to pure nostalgia but yeah

idk what the fuck they're doing to their game. inb4 season 5 kills are worth 0 gold and champions have no abilities because you don't need abilities to last hit.
It's mostly just this current patch for me. No interaction with your team (exception of mid maybe) because junglers are farming for 50 minutes, and people in lane don't get punished for playing passively anymore. Passive playstyle is why stuff like Ziggs and Nidalee are running rampant in competitive play.

Makes the game incredibly frustrating and boring at the same time which is a very bad direction to go down.

Next patch will hopefully fix the jungle problem, but not sure what they plan on doing about the other stuff.
Kanye West
Yeah it's impossible to snowball from early game on this patch which will hopefully be fixed somewhat in 4.6 but I still think they should revert the first blood nerf.

This patch also sucks because it depends more on your teammates not fucking up and actually listening to your pings rather than your ability to win lane and snowball.

Obligatory ognTSM ROTATIONS ognTSM
BrokenArrow



Alright I'm getting better at Vayne, I might try her out in ranked today
I'm kinda scared that my KDA is only so high because nobody gives a shit about normals ;_;
[- Alex -]
Dam. I can't play supp anymore. Normal's/rank's all the same. Someone is like supp pls.....
PyaKura
@BrokenArrow : What item do you rush first ? Botrk ?
Also is Sword of Divine any good ? o.o
Sapphiire_old_1

PyaKura wrote:

Also is Sword of Divine any good ? o.o
Only if you are realy fed
BrokenArrow
Botrk -> PD -> IE -> LW -> defensive item/BT/SoD

Sword of Divine is decent if you are ahead and have vision control in their jungle
Nofool

SoG Tava wrote:

PyaKura wrote:

Also is Sword of Divine any good ? o.o
Only if you are realy fed
nope ,_, useless if you'r already fed...
it works well in early (if you use it ofc), mostly on twitch/adc's who only auto attack, it helps to get fed but becomes useless in late. A bit dangerous on vayne since she's supposed to fight only in tf and needs more (=>phantom dancer usually) than this 3 hit buff at these moments (but ofc i guess it's a bit different in bronze é_è...).
BrokenArrow
hey i'm gold ok
it's just a fun item idc about its gold value as long as I can kill anything in less than 2 seconds
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