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mm201

Jarby wrote:

Kinda funny how entitled people are to expect a free service to be around seemingly forever. Pity that it's going, but it's hardly premature considering the consoles' successors have been out for several years already. I'm sure third party answers to online play will pop up in the near future anyway.
Pokémon Black & White 2 have barely been out more than a year (16 months), and many of the other games (notably the Mario Kart series) are still being sold.
EineKrone

Jarby wrote:

Kinda funny how entitled people are to expect a free service to be around seemingly forever. Pity that it's going, but it's hardly premature considering the consoles' successors have been out for several years already.
Dis. It's their right.
But they could make another way no? I mean, release patch so these services at least could work over the WiFi. Except if they do intend to kill these services so people can buy more 3DSs...

Jarby wrote:

I'm sure third party answers to online play will pop up in the near future anyway.
Isn't there a online service to play PSP games? Somenthing-kai... *browses bookmarks* XLink Kai is the service.
Maybe someone will make one for the 3DS, the original DS will probably have one as well for "nostalgia", "using again the old services", but I'm not sure how much people will prioritize it...
Azure_Kite

EineKrone wrote:

Dis. It's their right.
But they could make another way no? I mean, release patch so these services at least could work over the WiFi. Except if they do intend to kill these services so people can buy more 3DSs...
DS titles really don't have this kind of ability. That being said, it could be possible to emulate the online services via DNS rerouting to a third party service. As I recall, the Pokemon games have this sort of thing pretty much hammered out.
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NaomiMinette

Azure_Kite wrote:

DS titles really don't have this kind of ability. That being said, it could be possible to emulate the online services via DNS rerouting to a third party service. As I recall, the Pokemon games have this sort of thing pretty much hammered out.
Don't the Pokémon games only take advantage of GTS and Battle Videos, or am I missing something here?
Trash Boat
its not only Pokémon, Blaze
Azure_Kite

Blazevoir wrote:

Azure_Kite wrote:

DS titles really don't have this kind of ability. That being said, it could be possible to emulate the online services via DNS rerouting to a third party service. As I recall, the Pokemon games have this sort of thing pretty much hammered out.
Don't the Pokémon games only take advantage of GTS and Battle Videos, or am I missing something here?
That is the online content that they generate and make use of, yes. But it still makes use of the Nintendo Wifi Connection service. Online Compatible DS games are hardcoded to go to a specific Web Address for communication. There is no changing Web Address that except through ROM hacking. The workaround for that was to use a DNS server that makes that Web Address point to a completely different IP Address. This can be used for the Pokemon games, but it could be extended if somebody had the time.

The problem then would be to figure out how each game communicates with their online functionality. It was done with Pokemon because it's Pokemon. It could also be done for other games, if enough time were put into it.

For the sake of example, by making the fictional http://www.nintendo.com/wifiservice/metroidprimehunters point to a different IP address, if someone had the knowhow it would be possible to make a spoof Nintendo Wifi Connection Service that allowed Online gameplay.

http://save-nintendo-wifi.com/ is a project seeking recruitment for figuring out the connection methods for other games.
RemmyX25

ChicagoTed7172 wrote:

Aw goddamnit - I was going to get into Super Smash Bros. Brawl online q.q
You really aren't missing much. A lot of MetaKnight/ Ike spammers.
Trash Boat
dont forget Zelda. that air kick seems OHKO sometimes. along with Din's fire
Trash Boat
if they really care about us, their customers, they should do something like this: bring your Wii to a specific store and you'll get a Wii U with a discount. if they do, i highly recommend you to backup all your wii data to transfer it. unless, as deadbeat stated, they are such greed pots
deadbeat
lets look at it like this, did you really expect the online services for older products to be supported forever? sooner or later they were going to stop supporting it. if you really didn't expect this, then i'll be seriously amazed
Jarby

Trash Boat wrote:

if they really care about us, their customers, they should do something like this: bring your Wii to a specific store and you'll get a Wii U with a discount.
Second hand shops already do this, albeit typically at a price point that isn't any more worthwhile than just selling the console normally.
Trash Boat

deadbeat wrote:

lets look at it like this, did you really expect the online services for older products to be supported forever?
oh god no. its just that time passed too fast
deadbeat
it has been 3 years since the 3DS was released. games aren't even being made for the DS anymore. the DS has had it's time, and now it's over

EDIT: oops. 3 years, not 4
Azure_Kite
Well, if the age on your profile is anything to go by, the DS system first came out when you were 12 years old. I don't know about you, but 10 years is a pretty long time for an online service to be online for, specifically for one line of consoles.

Other consoles have had their online functionality removed for shorter lifespan.
deadbeat

Azure_Kite wrote:

Other consoles have had their online functionality removed for shorter lifespan.
inb4 x-box 360 and/or PS3 lose online support by the end of the year

EDIT: wow, according to wikipedia, the actual consoles were discontinued at the end of 2007
Trash Boat
well, there's always internet. that won't let us down. unless we are forced to buy Quantum computers
mm201

Azure_Kite wrote:

Well, if the age on your profile is anything to go by, the DS system first came out when you were 12 years old. I don't know about you, but 10 years is a pretty long time for an online service to be online for, specifically for one line of consoles.

Other consoles have had their online functionality removed for shorter lifespan.

mm201 wrote:

Pokémon Black & White 2 have barely been out more than a year (16 months), and many of the other games (notably the Mario Kart series) are still being sold.
If only we could somehow convince Nintendo to release their SSL key and direct their DNS to a fan server.
Trash Boat

mm201 wrote:

If only we could somehow convince Nintendo to release their SSL key and direct their DNS to a fan server.
i only have 10 bucks. just 999,999,999,990 remaining to make it possible
Azure_Kite

mm201 wrote:

If only we could somehow convince Nintendo to release their SSL key and direct their DNS to a fan server.
Doesn't pretty much every game's interface with Nintendo WiFi Connection differ depending on developer whims? I am assuming that considering the GTS in the pokemon titles connects to WFC, and there are numerous DNS bypasses for that, that there are differences in online security between titles. If Nintendo were using a global SSL key to do that, then we wouldn't have the GTShax, right?
mm201

Azure_Kite wrote:

mm201 wrote:

If only we could somehow convince Nintendo to release their SSL key and direct their DNS to a fan server.
Doesn't pretty much every game's interface with Nintendo WiFi Connection differ depending on developer whims? I am assuming that considering the GTS in the pokemon titles connects to WFC, and there are numerous DNS bypasses for that, that there are differences in online security between titles. If Nintendo were using a global SSL key to do that, then we wouldn't have the GTShax, right?
The authentication (friend codes and the like) is shared between games. GTS hax will also stop working when NWFC goes dark.
Azure_Kite
Ah, Eye sea
Trash Boat
heres a countdown timer. correct it if its innaccurate

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/ge ... sz=1&swk=1
kirueggy
What is the good side to any of this, are you stupid Nintendo
deadbeat

kirukashi wrote:

What is the good side to any of this, are you stupid Nintendo
seriously...did you read ANYTHING in this thread :/
Critical Dude
So, should we say farewell to these consoles?
AutoMedic
This ain't funny anymore Nintendo.

Stop acting like EA you greedy dickheads
Azure_Kite

Sonatora wrote:

This ain't funny anymore Nintendo.

Stop acting like EA you greedy dickheads
Well, to be fair, this a service for an obsoleted console that has been around for 10 years now.

To put it in perspective,the Xbox Live service for the original Xbox was discontinued in 2010, having been alive and (sort of) kicking for 8 years. It's not as though these sorts of things can and should continue forever, you know.
AutoMedic

Azure_Kite wrote:

Sonatora wrote:

This ain't funny anymore Nintendo.

Stop acting like EA you greedy dickheads
Well, to be fair, this a service for an obsoleted console that has been around for 10 years now.

To put it in perspective,the Xbox Live service for the original Xbox was discontinued in 2010, having been alive and (sort of) kicking for 8 years. It's not as though these sorts of things can and should continue forever, you know.
You have a point tho'

To be honest, Nintendo's kinda low on financial resources right now

I'm still cancelling my plans to buy games for Nintendo. This is pretty bad in my perspective
Topic Starter
NaomiMinette
Hope you got your final moments in.
kirueggy
shedtear 1
AutoMedic
cries...
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NaomiMinette
RIP Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection...
skyllzhogo
but how many people got the DS wifi connection to work? for some reason it never worked for me...

however i'm disappointed that it's gone for the Wii
DerekMcD
I know the games are fun to play and I enjoyed then but, I'll just plan of selling my DS games that Supports WFC away.
Chamelo

skyllzhogo wrote:

but how many people got the DS wifi connection to work?
It's kind of using the old wifi version, which, most of us already changed to the better one.
cmiiw
Trash Boat
pls lock
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NaomiMinette
No, because I'm waiting on something.
Trash Boat
oh yeah forgot this: Games For Windows LIVE is still active though, or not?
mm201
Trash Boat
but you must "chip" your Wii in order to do that? no thx
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