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Resonecia - Legende [Taiko]

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lolcubes
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 7. veljača 2015. at 10:24:40

Artist: Resonecia
Title: Legende
Tags: c85 erbschaft
BPM: 175
Filesize: 8923kb
Play Time: 05:55
Difficulties Available:
  1. Legendary Oni (5,41 stars, 2809 notes)
Download: Resonecia - Legende
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Long song? Check.
Deathstreams? Check.
High OD? Check.
Epic? Legendary? Check.

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Frostmourne
yes epic!!
Lover
Topic Starter
lolcubes
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Maybe I should go and get this approved lol.
Nwolf
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TKS
Topic Starter
lolcubes
For the modders and everyone: this mapset has changed over the course of many testplays by many people (i.e. was modded during live plays), so the lack of mods in the thread are only because of quick on-the-spot changes that were not documented.

Have fun.

TKS wrote:

<3<3<3

Nwolf wrote:

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bananannian
Hi! From my forum NM/M4M taiko queue.

...

I feel like I'm going to regret this decision.

2804 objects. Playback rate at 50%.
Here we go.

d = don
k = katsu
D = big don
K = big katsu


[General]
Blah blah easier difficulties blah rankable blah blah blah.
Blah blah overmapping blah blah blah who cares blah.
Blah blah break time blah blah long map blah blah. Blah.

Intense map, 10/10 would play look at auto again.


[Stuff goes here]
00:17:291 (111,112,113,114,115) - change to kddkk to make onbeat d and offbeat k, as well as mirroring 00:15:920 (98,99,100,101,102)
00:20:720 (144) - delete, match 00:09:748
00:33:148 (268) - change to d, previously only Eb vocals have double k
00:50:891 (394) - move to 00:50:977 , pretty sure this is where vocals enter instead of original position
00:52:262 (406) - change to k, match vocals
00:59:805 (473,474,475,476,477) - could be changed to dkkdk to match vocals
01:20:377 (632) - change to k, emphasize vocals high note
01:32:377 (727) - change to k, match vocals
01:39:234 (779,780) - maybe change to d K, emphasize vocal high note with a cymbal splash instead of a loud kick?
01:45:748 (837,838,839) - change to dkd, match vocals
01:50:205 (874,875) - see 01:39:234
02:02:205 (959,960) - change to d k, previously all choral notes are mapped as d with a k (or K) following it
02:15:233 (1049,1050,1051,1052,1053,1054,1055) - change to ddkkddk, last k match vocals high note
02:35:462 (1200) - change to k, match vocals
03:02:719 (1379,1384) - maybe change to k, guitar's notes are pretty high up there
03:15:576 (1495) - change to k, emphasize the following D
03:17:976 (1512,1513,1514,1515) - change to dk dk, follow previous pattern for guitar
03:37:004 (1686) - change to d, match guitar pitch
04:21:405 (216,217,218) - change to ddk, match previous pattern
04:23:890 (243) - change to d, kkdkkdkk pattern would read easier as well as match vocals
04:30:319 (292,293) - see 01:39:234
04:36:833 (352) - delete?
04:41:290 (391,392) - see 01:39:234

And... deathruns. </3
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Whew. That was easier than I expected.

And also, after looking through my mod, would you mind taking the time to check out my taiko set? Please?

... Please? <3

There you go! Hope you find this mod helpful, and good luck beatmapping!
Topic Starter
lolcubes
Uh, kinda lost my reply post cause I swapped PCs ;_;

I took only very little advice from your mod because my mapping style is not focused on vocals, and some other would get in the way of good gameplay.
Nice mod though, the suggestions are reasonable and well made, it's just that usually vocal suggestions don't really blend well in my maps because I am almost always more drum oriented, taking vocals only when the drum is so static you just can't make anything fun out of it.
I still like to see how other people think though, it does help me get more perspective. :)

Now, I mentioned "my style", but what does that mean to you? I will just explain some really simple things which I stand behind in my mapping.

Usually, I regard D as the most heavy note there is, K is following right after it. As for the pitch, if the pitch really makes a difference, it will almost always be mapped in reverse, meaning higher (more intense) will be mapped with a D.
I don't really like pitch mapping, I like intensity mapping a lot more, because pitch can be so limiting and in rock songs it will almost always lead to really weird and awkward patterns and flow (just like your suggestion to convert that kdkkd into kddkk). As for the intensity, it can only expand the intensity if I do this in reverse, meaning if there are a lot of high tones which really "scream", I will add really low ones to it to make it even more intense, adding contrast and making the map more interesting (imo).

As for the changes and the choices I made, I took some of your vocal suggestions (applied to the guitar during the solo though) and incorporated them a little more different than you suggested, but it did help bring some easier blending between the guitar and drum mapping.
Didn't remove the notes you suggested, they are actually there for the flow because the music is much more intense there compared to the very beginning.

And, finally, deathstreams are cool. <3

Thanks for the mod! I might check your map some other day. ╭( ・ㅂ・) و
OnosakiHito
So, after a long IRC modding with a lot of inromation, suggestions and discussion we've finally come to an end. The map itself is in my opinion ready for the qualified section since it has in general a well and especially strict structure which one must get used to before modding. The map contains a lot of improvized patterns which in my opinion fit the song well enough. One might wonder about some of the ...ddddd endings in a stream, but even those has been explained by lolcubes as needed, since they act as decrescendo, which means that there is an sort of "fall-down" of emphasition which is shown by monotonically patterns at the end of a stream or section. In this way it gives room to make clear when a new section begins or give upcoming part a more significant role.

Here the IRC log, even though most might not understand it lol:

IRC log
2015-02-06 22:22 OnosakiHito: 00:13:691 - ~ 00:24:320 - Nisam siguran sta si ovde hteo da radis. dons si valjda stavio zbog taj zvug u background? Ovi drums sa 1/4.
2015-02-06 22:22 lolcubes: da
2015-02-06 22:23 lolcubes: vise sam razmisljo ovako
2015-02-06 22:23 lolcubes: posto je drumline 1/4 cijelo vrijeme
2015-02-06 22:23 OnosakiHito: Ali KAT nekakvo nedulje mi bas dobro. Neznam sta to pratuje.
2015-02-06 22:23 lolcubes: razbit cu je na 5 note paterne
2015-02-06 22:23 lolcubes: dok to radim pokusat cu pratit snare
2015-02-06 22:23 lolcubes: i ubacit highlight od gitare
2015-02-06 22:24 lolcubes: mogu napravit npr
2015-02-06 22:24 lolcubes: 00:14:720 (89,90,91) -
2015-02-06 22:24 lolcubes: d k D
2015-02-06 22:25 OnosakiHito: Mislim da je to mnogo kombinacije. Ja stvarno nisam imo vezu sta si tu sat uradijo dok mi nisi reko. Znas da je to u taiko dobra idea (ako se znakako se radi) da kominujes dve razlicite stvari, naprimer vocal+beat.
2015-02-06 22:25 OnosakiHito: Ali ovde su ti to cak tri stvari koje bekakvo prave patterne,
2015-02-06 22:25 OnosakiHito: koje bi mogli da zvucu bolje. Ako mene pitas.
2015-02-06 22:26 OnosakiHito: dkdddk naprimer je krivo stavljeno kad gldas na stanza.
2015-02-06 22:26 lolcubes: dkdddk?
2015-02-06 22:26 OnosakiHito: A kdddk isto se ponekad javi i ponkead ne.
2015-02-06 22:26 OnosakiHito: ponekad*
2015-02-06 22:26 OnosakiHito: ddkdddk*
2015-02-06 22:26 OnosakiHito: izvini lol
2015-02-06 22:26 lolcubes: hm
2015-02-06 22:27 lolcubes: sto se tice strukture, kdddk je zapravo uvijek isti
2015-02-06 22:27 lolcubes: npr
2015-02-06 22:27 lolcubes: 00:13:862 - kdddk
2015-02-06 22:27 lolcubes: 00:15:234 -
2015-02-06 22:27 lolcubes: 00:16:605 - (iako pocinje sa dd prije)
2015-02-06 22:27 lolcubes: 00:17:977 - promjena jer ga vise nece biti, ali logicna promjena
2015-02-06 22:28 lolcubes: razlog zasto je tamo ddkdddk
2015-02-06 22:28 lolcubes: je zato jer nema streama koji ide do downbeata
2015-02-06 22:28 lolcubes: pa da popunim notama sam stavio na downbeat sa jednostavnom paternom da su katovi i dalje highlight
2015-02-06 22:28 lolcubes: a sto se tice da bolje zvuci, istina, trudim se nac zamijenu za ddkkk
2015-02-06 22:28 lolcubes: ali
2015-02-06 22:29 lolcubes: ako dropam snare posto tak i tak uzimam gitaru za main
2015-02-06 22:29 lolcubes: mogu nesto drugo probat hm
2015-02-06 22:30 lolcubes: da, moram taj ddkkk rijesit
2015-02-06 22:30 lolcubes: on je jedini inconsistency i to te valjda toliko buni
2015-02-06 22:31 OnosakiHito: 00:13:691 - ~ 00:16:434 - Samo da ti pokazem sta ja ipak vise cujem (gitaru): http://puu.sh/fz0A1/21f3011758.png
2015-02-06 22:31 OnosakiHito: Znam da nebi hteo da imas mnogo katova. To je samo primer.
2015-02-06 22:31 lolcubes: hm
2015-02-06 22:31 lolcubes: e vidis da, na to nisam razmisljo
2015-02-06 22:31 lolcubes: ideja je bila 5 note paterne ili vece
2015-02-06 22:31 lolcubes: nisam razmisljo sa 3
2015-02-06 22:31 lolcubes: mogu probat sa 3 i 7
2015-02-06 22:31 lolcubes: umjesto 5 i 5
2015-02-06 22:31 lolcubes: il 3 i 5 pa 7 iza
2015-02-06 22:31 lolcubes: i kombinacije
2015-02-06 22:31 lolcubes: sec
2015-02-06 22:32 OnosakiHito: Ali taj patarn naprimer mnogo vise pase zato so prati main-instrument, gitaru.
2015-02-06 22:32 OnosakiHito: ok
2015-02-06 22:36 lolcubes: umjesto da slijedim gitaru ili drum
2015-02-06 22:36 lolcubes: imam jednu drugu ideju
2015-02-06 22:36 lolcubes: improvizacija, ali mislim da ce ovako bit bolje
2015-02-06 22:36 lolcubes: slicno tvojoj ideji al sa drugacijim kat paternama
2015-02-06 22:37 OnosakiHito: oh, znas da ja volim improvizaciju. :)
2015-02-06 22:43 lolcubes: 7+3 -> 5+5
2015-02-06 22:43 lolcubes: updated
2015-02-06 22:44 OnosakiHito: ok
2015-02-06 22:45 lolcubes: samo da si pregledam 5/4 part jos jednom
2015-02-06 22:47 lolcubes: da tam je sve ok
2015-02-06 22:48 OnosakiHito: Mnogo bolje.
2015-02-06 22:48 OnosakiHito: Ovo se meni vec vise dopada.
2015-02-06 22:48 lolcubes: i meni
2015-02-06 22:48 lolcubes: :D
2015-02-06 22:49 lolcubes: nikad nisam mogo nac alternativu za taj ddkkk
2015-02-06 22:49 lolcubes: al zato jer nisam razmisljo
2015-02-06 22:49 lolcubes: zacrto sam si 5note paterne <_<
2015-02-06 22:49 OnosakiHito: desi se.
2015-02-06 22:51 OnosakiHito: 00:20:548 (143) - Mozda jos jedan finisher? Mislim, razumem zasto ga tu nema. Ali mozda bi hteo jos jednom da razmisljas o tome.
2015-02-06 22:51 OnosakiHito: Svaka 8/1 nota bi bila finisher.
2015-02-06 22:51 lolcubes: nema crasha u muzici tu
2015-02-06 22:51 lolcubes: i ako stavim finish tamo onda bi se dogodio hand swap na full alt
2015-02-06 22:52 lolcubes: nekad je bio tamo al sam ga maknuo :)
2015-02-06 22:53 lolcubes: 00:46:777 - jedino me zanima sta mislis o ovome
2015-02-06 22:53 lolcubes: moram priznat da sam forsirao pauzu tu
2015-02-06 22:53 lolcubes: a tako bi fino pasala neka paterna
2015-02-06 22:54 OnosakiHito: Hm. Svako igra drugacije na full alt kad se desi da finisher nastaje. Ali nema veze. Samo sam hteo da pomenim.
2015-02-06 22:55 OnosakiHito: Videcu za tu timeline. Prvo da vidim za kiai :P
2015-02-06 22:55 lolcubes: k
2015-02-06 22:55 OnosakiHito: kiai bi trebala biti uredu, ali jedna stvar me muci:
2015-02-06 22:55 OnosakiHito: 00:24:662 (178,179,180,181) -
2015-02-06 22:55 lolcubes: mislio sam stavit 1 don tamo
2015-02-06 22:55 lolcubes: aha!
2015-02-06 22:55 OnosakiHito: kdkk nije lep pattern, huh? haha
2015-02-06 22:56 lolcubes: kdkk?
2015-02-06 22:56 OnosakiHito: da?
2015-02-06 22:56 lolcubes: kkkk je tu :o
2015-02-06 22:56 lolcubes: ali da, sta sam htio da kazem
2015-02-06 22:56 OnosakiHito: reci
2015-02-06 22:57 lolcubes: 00:24:662 (178,179,180,181) - kkkk 00:27:405 (208,209,210,211) - kkdk 00:30:148 (236,237,238,239) - kdkd 00:32:891 (266,267,268,269) - kdkk
2015-02-06 22:57 lolcubes: vidis paternu kako se mijenja?
2015-02-06 22:57 OnosakiHito: da
2015-02-06 22:58 OnosakiHito: ali to je malo extremno. U jiro mi to dosta puta radimo, ali sa mnogo manje razmaka ot takvih notama.
2015-02-06 22:58 lolcubes: to je bila ideja, da ne mijenja strukturu previse, ali da opet bude drugacije, jedine paterne koje nedostaju su dkkk i kkkd
2015-02-06 22:58 lolcubes: a te paterne inace izbjegavam
2015-02-06 22:58 OnosakiHito: dok player stigna od 24 sec to 27 sec, on je vec zaboravio st aje bilo pre. Ili drugacije da kazem: ne primeti
2015-02-06 22:59 OnosakiHito: stigne*
2015-02-06 22:59 lolcubes: prvi puta mozda ne
2015-02-06 22:59 lolcubes: al druga 2 hoce
2015-02-06 22:59 OnosakiHito: do* jebote lol
2015-02-06 22:59 lolcubes: jer je ostatak streama identican
2015-02-06 22:59 OnosakiHito: hm....
2015-02-06 23:00 OnosakiHito: Mozda nebi bilo lose ako umesto kkkk imas oped jedan don unutra? kkkk nepase dobro.
2015-02-06 23:01 OnosakiHito: Mislim da si upravu sto kazes da ce player da primecuje zbog celog strima koij je isti.
2015-02-06 23:01 OnosakiHito: Alsi taj pocekad nekakvo nepase bas dobro ako mene pitas.
2015-02-06 23:01 OnosakiHito: vocal je mnogo jak, tako da nemapse kkkk uz.... "se nin" ili sta kazu
2015-02-06 23:02 OnosakiHito: Ako ipak hoces da ostavis, to je uredu. Ali sam hteo da ti kazem.
2015-02-06 23:02 lolcubes: samo malo, pokusavam alternativu smislit
2015-02-06 23:03 OnosakiHito: mogo bi da probas kdkd - kkdk - kdkd - kkdk
2015-02-06 23:03 OnosakiHito: tako da ti se pocetak samo dva puta menja.
2015-02-06 23:04 OnosakiHito: Posto nema vise puno opcije za cetvrti pattern koji nosi don na neko drugo mesto. Imamo samo 4 note lol
2015-02-06 23:04 lolcubes: kdkk -> kdkd -> kkdk -> kdk
2015-02-06 23:04 lolcubes: kdkd*
2015-02-06 23:04 lolcubes: sam napravio
2015-02-06 23:05 OnosakiHito: e, to moze isto. Zamalo ista stvar koju sam bio reko.
2015-02-06 23:06 OnosakiHito: za stimove mislim da su uredu. KAT prati vise vocal, tako da nemam nist protiv toga da kazem.
2015-02-06 23:06 lolcubes: 00:35:634 (297,298,299) - D K D sam promijenio
2015-02-06 23:06 OnosakiHito: strimove*
2015-02-06 23:06 OnosakiHito: joi hvala ti :D
2015-02-06 23:07 lolcubes: da, meni je malo zao radi toga ali nazalost to je jedan od rijetkih slucajeva gdje je vokal zanimljiviji od drum xD
2015-02-06 23:07 OnosakiHito: tako volim da alternejtujem haha
2015-02-06 23:07 lolcubes: da da
2015-02-06 23:07 lolcubes: to me jebalo cijelo vrijeme
2015-02-06 23:07 lolcubes: ideja je bila da bude drugaciji finish stalno
2015-02-06 23:07 lolcubes: al screw that
2015-02-06 23:07 lolcubes: D K D D je bolje
2015-02-06 23:07 lolcubes: da ga jebes :P
2015-02-06 23:07 OnosakiHito: te probleme i ja imam ponekad.
2015-02-06 23:07 lolcubes: razmisljam da mozda
2015-02-06 23:07 lolcubes: D D K D napravim
2015-02-06 23:08 lolcubes: posto mi je to draza progresija
2015-02-06 23:08 lolcubes: ostavit cu D D K D, ipak mi je draze to lol
2015-02-06 23:09 OnosakiHito: 00:38:377 - nepase taj kiai ending ovde. Ipak bri tebo da se zavrsi ovde 00:41:120 -
2015-02-06 23:09 OnosakiHito: zbog vocal; jos uvek ucini za kiai
2015-02-06 23:10 OnosakiHito: Pase da se skida kiai zbog patterns koje nisu vise tako teski, ali to nema puno veze.
2015-02-06 23:10 lolcubes: ugasio sam ga tu zbog velike pauze, iako ima vokal iza mislim da taj vokal nije tezak nego je poveznica prema drugoj sekciji
2015-02-06 23:10 lolcubes: pa zato kiai nebi bio dobar tamo jer bi ga grupiralo sa ovim
2015-02-06 23:10 lolcubes: a zapravo je medjusekcija
2015-02-06 23:10 lolcubes: a to se i vidi jer zapravo tamo nisam ni slijedio vokal hehh
2015-02-06 23:10 OnosakiHito: Onda pokusavaj da gasis kiai 00:35:634 - ovde?
2015-02-06 23:11 lolcubes: k
2015-02-06 23:11 OnosakiHito: Hm. Neznam. Ja bi ipak reko da se menja pre ili kasinje. Ali ne u... u....
2015-02-06 23:11 OnosakiHito: ali ne "in the middle"
2015-02-06 23:11 lolcubes: stavio sam na 35 634
2015-02-06 23:11 OnosakiHito: lol
2015-02-06 23:11 lolcubes: ma dat cu ti ja in the middle
2015-02-06 23:11 lolcubes: :D
2015-02-06 23:11 OnosakiHito: ok
2015-02-06 23:11 OnosakiHito: haha
2015-02-06 23:12 lolcubes: sto se ostalog tice, mislim da nebih htio puno mijenjat
2015-02-06 23:12 OnosakiHito: ma 00:41:120 - ovde bi jos uvek bilo bolje
2015-02-06 23:12 OnosakiHito: ACTION fly away*
2015-02-06 23:12 lolcubes: zato jer mislim da je mapa konstruirana 99% kako sam htio da bude haha
2015-02-06 23:12 OnosakiHito: videcemo.
2015-02-06 23:12 lolcubes: al da
2015-02-06 23:13 lolcubes: ne zelim tu zavrsit kiai
2015-02-06 23:13 lolcubes: jer
2015-02-06 23:13 lolcubes: 00:39:748 (306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314,315,316) - ne slijedi vokal vise
2015-02-06 23:13 lolcubes: bilo bi krivo grupirat pod sekciju prije
2015-02-06 23:13 lolcubes: :p
2015-02-06 23:13 OnosakiHito: Ja sam onosaki, i ja hocu da menjas to odmah.
2015-02-06 23:13 OnosakiHito: dosta price
2015-02-06 23:13 OnosakiHito: XD
2015-02-06 23:13 lolcubes: joooooj
2015-02-06 23:13 lolcubes: imam nesto za tebe
2015-02-06 23:13 lolcubes: hahahaha sec XD
2015-02-06 23:14 OnosakiHito: zezam se. Mozes da ostavis kako hoces naravno. :P
2015-02-06 23:15 lolcubes: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
2015-02-06 23:15 lolcubes: deleto sam photoshop
2015-02-06 23:15 lolcubes: nooooooooooooooooo
2015-02-06 23:15 lolcubes: nemogu editirat kak ocu ffs :D
2015-02-06 23:15 lolcubes: imo sam dobar meme za ono gore XD
2015-02-06 23:15 lolcubes: http://puu.sh/fz7XD/92903ffc91.jpg
2015-02-06 23:15 OnosakiHito: jebiga hahaha
2015-02-06 23:15 OnosakiHito: oh
2015-02-06 23:15 lolcubes: sam bez edita nije bas funny :v
2015-02-06 23:16 OnosakiHito: LOL
2015-02-06 23:16 OnosakiHito: "Ono said so"
2015-02-06 23:16 OnosakiHito: "no ono, nooo!"
2015-02-06 23:16 OnosakiHito: xD
2015-02-06 23:16 lolcubes: da
2015-02-06 23:16 lolcubes: :D
2015-02-06 23:16 OnosakiHito: ali aj da nastavimo brzo
2015-02-06 23:16 lolcubes: ajaj
2015-02-06 23:16 OnosakiHito: 37 sekunda
2015-02-06 23:17 OnosakiHito: a imamo jos 5 minuta lol
2015-02-06 23:17 lolcubes: stvari se ponavljaju
2015-02-06 23:17 OnosakiHito: ok
2015-02-06 23:18 OnosakiHito: 00:40:948 - valjda ceju par ljudi biti protiv toga. I ja isto nevolim bas, ali kapiram ideju, tako da mozes ostaviti ako stvarno hoces.
2015-02-06 23:18 OnosakiHito: Ipak tako seces dva partova, i pratis vokal u background
2015-02-06 23:18 lolcubes: smatram da finisher gubi smisao onda tu
2015-02-06 23:18 lolcubes: pogotovo jer 00:40:262 (310,311,312,313,314,315,316) - je iskljucivo drum
2015-02-06 23:19 OnosakiHito: ne ako skidas jedan don iza finisher
2015-02-06 23:19 OnosakiHito: kao sto si radi ovde: 00:46:777
2015-02-06 23:19 OnosakiHito: 00:46:777 -
2015-02-06 23:19 lolcubes: to sam ti reko prije
2015-02-06 23:19 lolcubes: 00:46:862 - stavio sam don tu
2015-02-06 23:19 OnosakiHito: da.
2015-02-06 23:20 OnosakiHito: Svuci glupo
2015-02-06 23:20 OnosakiHito: tako da bolje stavi don.
2015-02-06 23:20 OnosakiHito: Tacno.
2015-02-06 23:20 OnosakiHito: lol
2015-02-06 23:20 OnosakiHito: ili, sta bi mozda bilo bolje
2015-02-06 23:20 OnosakiHito: da imas kd
2015-02-06 23:21 OnosakiHito: 00:46:862 -
2015-02-06 23:21 OnosakiHito: znam, znam. Taj pattern nekakvo stoji sam, ali ako bi mogo bar da probas
2015-02-06 23:21 OnosakiHito: da imas jos jedan na 00:49:605 - , mozda bi bilo dobro.
2015-02-06 23:21 lolcubes: nah, ako maknes sve donove (i katove na plavom ticku), bit ce ti jasno kako su katovi poslozeni
2015-02-06 23:21 OnosakiHito: kapiram
2015-02-06 23:22 lolcubes: a kkk je tamo zbog 3. promjene koja se jos nije dogodila
2015-02-06 23:22 lolcubes: to sam i kasnije u mapi radio, ali u reverse
2015-02-06 23:22 lolcubes: transformirao sam paterne
2015-02-06 23:22 lolcubes: kkkdk -> kkddk -> kdddk
2015-02-06 23:22 lolcubes: bile su dio streama pa flowa dobro
2015-02-06 23:22 OnosakiHito: Ali sta se ponekad radi je, da stavis finisher sa kkk ili / kkkk(1/6) equal.
2015-02-06 23:23 OnosakiHito: tako da je K = kkk
2015-02-06 23:23 OnosakiHito: zbog impact koi ima
2015-02-06 23:23 OnosakiHito: oh
2015-02-06 23:23 OnosakiHito: hm
2015-02-06 23:23 lolcubes: da, ali u tom i je poanta, impact nije tolko jak da bi opravdao finish
2015-02-06 23:23 OnosakiHito: to bi bilo vocal + sound koji mapiras sa kat
2015-02-06 23:24 OnosakiHito: oh
2015-02-06 23:24 OnosakiHito: ili probaj ovo, to je zadnja idea koju imam:
2015-02-06 23:24 lolcubes: neznam dal da kazem al
2015-02-06 23:24 lolcubes: ovaj dio mape skroz do 5/4
2015-02-06 23:24 lolcubes: je cista improvizacija
2015-02-06 23:24 OnosakiHito: 00:46:605 - K dd
2015-02-06 23:24 lolcubes: ako ista prati onda je to full slucajno xD
2015-02-06 23:24 OnosakiHito: 00:49:348 - ^
2015-02-06 23:25 lolcubes: ddd nebi bio dobar patern tamo jer bi unistilo strukturu
2015-02-06 23:25 OnosakiHito: kat prati totalno gitaru
2015-02-06 23:25 OnosakiHito: samo dons su improvizacija
2015-02-06 23:25 OnosakiHito: lol
2015-02-06 23:25 lolcubes: npr
2015-02-06 23:25 lolcubes: svaki triple pattern starta na downbeat
2015-02-06 23:25 lolcubes: a ovako bi bio na upbeat
2015-02-06 23:25 lolcubes: dd sam napravio zato jer sam ga kasnije iskoristio na slican nacin
2015-02-06 23:25 lolcubes: dvoumio sam se
2015-02-06 23:25 lolcubes: izmedju K d d
2015-02-06 23:26 lolcubes: i K d dd
2015-02-06 23:26 lolcubes: uhhhh
2015-02-06 23:26 lolcubes: K d d i K dd mislim
2015-02-06 23:26 OnosakiHito: 01:00:577 -
2015-02-06 23:26 OnosakiHito: JEBI SE
2015-02-06 23:26 OnosakiHito: JEBI SE
2015-02-06 23:26 OnosakiHito: JEBI SE
2015-02-06 23:26 lolcubes: :D
2015-02-06 23:26 OnosakiHito: XD
2015-02-06 23:26 OnosakiHito: ok
2015-02-06 23:27 OnosakiHito: nastavim
2015-02-06 23:29 OnosakiHito: Samo da pitam: 01:18:491 - Sigurno da neces da imas finisher?
2015-02-06 23:29 OnosakiHito: generelno u ovaj part
2015-02-06 23:29 lolcubes: 100%
2015-02-06 23:30 OnosakiHito: malo mi lici da imas mnogo ovih 1/4 patterni.
2015-02-06 23:30 OnosakiHito: ok
2015-02-06 23:31 lolcubes: 01:32:034 (726,727,728,729,730,731,732,733,734,735,736,737,738,739,740) - modificirao u kkddkdkdddkkkkd
2015-02-06 23:32 OnosakiHito: 01:31:777 (723,724) - ovi dva zadnji nota. Izbrisi 723 i pokusavaj da imas na 724 k ili K ?
2015-02-06 23:33 lolcubes: jesi probo promijenit ovo gore prvo?
2015-02-06 23:33 OnosakiHito: Posto si bas dobro poceo sa strim i 01:31:520 (720,722) - zvuci dobro uz crash koji se cuje
2015-02-06 23:33 OnosakiHito: oh nisam
2015-02-06 23:34 OnosakiHito: super, vec si menjo sta sam hteo da kazem
2015-02-06 23:34 OnosakiHito: lol
2015-02-06 23:34 OnosakiHito: jos da kazem*
2015-02-06 23:34 lolcubes: finish bi prekinuo flow tu, radije nebih, pogotvo jer su 3 sa tim da su prva 2 mutna dosta
2015-02-06 23:35 OnosakiHito: a k?
2015-02-06 23:35 lolcubes: mislis da bude kkk na kraju
2015-02-06 23:36 lolcubes: hm, posto sam ovaj drugi stream modificirao da bude bolji, stavit k na downbeat bi bilo malo awkward za igrat
2015-02-06 23:36 OnosakiHito: ok
2015-02-06 23:36 OnosakiHito: razumem.
2015-02-06 23:36 lolcubes: a sto se tice kiai, pls ignoriraj sto sam ignorirao puno 1/6 ;_;
2015-02-06 23:36 lolcubes: al ih ima previse da bi mapa bila fun
2015-02-06 23:37 lolcubes: mapirajuci sve 1/6 bila bi puno puno puno teza
2015-02-06 23:37 OnosakiHito: Izvini ako to sat kazem, ali
2015-02-06 23:37 OnosakiHito: zajebi ti 1/6.
2015-02-06 23:37 OnosakiHito: Posteno.
2015-02-06 23:38 OnosakiHito: Ja mislim, da mapa nebi vise bila dobra sa mnogo 1/6.
2015-02-06 23:38 OnosakiHito: Tako kako si to sat uradijo, je potpuno uredu.
2015-02-06 23:38 OnosakiHito: Ljude misle da je lako da se stavi 1/6, i da je to normalno.
2015-02-06 23:38 OnosakiHito: Ali nije
2015-02-06 23:38 OnosakiHito: Sve drugo bi bilo mnogo i mozda nebi ni dobro pasalo uz celu mapu.
2015-02-06 23:38 lolcubes: ja isto mislim, mapa bi morala imat manje noti za 1/6
2015-02-06 23:38 lolcubes: jer bi bila pre dense
2015-02-06 23:38 OnosakiHito: Tacno.
2015-02-06 23:38 lolcubes: premalo dinamike bi imala
2015-02-06 23:39 lolcubes: a osim toga te 1/6 su na tako awkward mjestima
2015-02-06 23:39 lolcubes: bas tamo di sam stavio finish il nesto trece
2015-02-06 23:39 lolcubes: hhaha
2015-02-06 23:39 lolcubes: pa sam mapirao samo jako malo 1/6 cisto da ucine razliku u ritmu a da nisu teske
2015-02-06 23:39 lolcubes: pa su izdvojene
2015-02-06 23:39 OnosakiHito: Tako i treba.
2015-02-06 23:40 OnosakiHito: Ima ljude koje mapiraju kddd 1/6 sto se igra stvarno lose i sto nezvuci dobro.
2015-02-06 23:40 lolcubes: kddd na 1/6 zna bit super ali nikako prema downbeatu
2015-02-06 23:40 lolcubes: ako k pocinje na zadnjem beatu i ide do upbeata onda zna super radit ako iza dolazi D
2015-02-06 23:40 lolcubes: sto ovdje je nemoguce :P
2015-02-06 23:41 lolcubes: to sam ucinio u pure ruby i u ... OMG
2015-02-06 23:41 lolcubes: pa nisam ti pokazo sta mapiram haha
2015-02-06 23:41 lolcubes: ..budem jednom :)
2015-02-06 23:41 lolcubes: jedna cosmo@BousouP pjesma
2015-02-06 23:41 lolcubes: daleko je od gotove mape al fuck me teska pjesma za mapirat
2015-02-06 23:42 OnosakiHito: haha
2015-02-06 23:42 lolcubes: imam jednu malu sekciju ako te zanima poslije
2015-02-06 23:42 lolcubes: 1:30 mapped
2015-02-06 23:42 OnosakiHito: moze posle kad zavrsimo ovo
2015-02-06 23:42 lolcubes: da
2015-02-06 23:42 OnosakiHito: kiai je potpuno uredu.
2015-02-06 23:43 OnosakiHito: Imo bi par suggestije za finisher, ali mislim da si imo tvoju ideu,
2015-02-06 23:43 OnosakiHito: tako da necu tu da interfenisem.
2015-02-06 23:43 lolcubes: :)
2015-02-06 23:44 OnosakiHito: O, ali jedna stvar na pocetak: 01:35:634 (749,750,751) - kkk ? Ovaj pattern K K ddd kkddddd nekakvo nepase meni bas dobro. Normalno bi trebalo biti
2015-02-06 23:44 OnosakiHito: ddkkddkk.... / kkddkkdd... ali si ti nesto drugo probao.
2015-02-06 23:44 lolcubes: kkddkkdd je u prije drugog kiai
2015-02-06 23:44 lolcubes: to sam namjerno napravio
2015-02-06 23:44 lolcubes: pase jer drum nije dinamican, pa je onak, veci relax into kiai
2015-02-06 23:44 lolcubes: dok je drugi kiai puno vise intense
2015-02-06 23:45 lolcubes: pa kkddkkd D mi je zvucalo ko bolja ideja za 2. kiai a ne 1.
2015-02-06 23:45 OnosakiHito: Ali "ostavljane" nije nesto dobro sa dddd. Zvuci mnogo "don-heavy" ? Neznam kako da kazem. Nisam neki ko moze da kaze tako dobro sta misli kao ti. lol
2015-02-06 23:45 OnosakiHito: hm
2015-02-06 23:45 lolcubes: 01:35:634 (750) - mogu tu k stavit
2015-02-06 23:45 lolcubes: al ne vise
2015-02-06 23:45 lolcubes: al hm
2015-02-06 23:46 lolcubes: kdd D jer super za igrat
2015-02-06 23:46 lolcubes: al ostali instrumenti se drugacije aktiviraju
2015-02-06 23:46 lolcubes: taj k bi mogao stvori konfuziju
2015-02-06 23:46 lolcubes: pogotovo jer nema puno aktivne muzike tu
2015-02-06 23:46 OnosakiHito: hm
2015-02-06 23:46 OnosakiHito: ok, sta mislis o ovoga onda:
2015-02-06 23:47 OnosakiHito: http://puu.sh/fzdil/560982118a.jpg
2015-02-06 23:47 OnosakiHito: ta aktivnost bi nestala kao i pre,
2015-02-06 23:48 OnosakiHito: samo da bi stavio kat malo ranije.
2015-02-06 23:48 lolcubes: 04:26:033 (251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261) - samo baci pogled tu
2015-02-06 23:48 OnosakiHito: zbog muzike kako zvuci u background.
2015-02-06 23:48 OnosakiHito: ok
2015-02-06 23:48 lolcubes: 04:26:376 (255,256) - ostaje isto
2015-02-06 23:48 lolcubes: dodana nota radi progresije 04:26:290 (254) -
2015-02-06 23:48 lolcubes: i zbog vece aktivnosti dodan kk 04:26:719 (259,260) -
2015-02-06 23:48 lolcubes: to je bila ideja
2015-02-06 23:48 lolcubes: ddd kkddddd -> ddddkkddkkd
2015-02-06 23:49 OnosakiHito: Mislim da je to malo mnogo. lol
2015-02-06 23:49 lolcubes: al je u muzici
2015-02-06 23:49 lolcubes: iako nije drum
2015-02-06 23:49 lolcubes: ,_;
2015-02-06 23:49 OnosakiHito: Da imas ideu je uvek dobro. Ali ovde mi deluje da nepase.
2015-02-06 23:49 OnosakiHito: jest u muzici? Cekaj
2015-02-06 23:49 OnosakiHito: lol
2015-02-06 23:49 OnosakiHito: OH
2015-02-06 23:49 OnosakiHito: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
2015-02-06 23:49 OnosakiHito: wtf
2015-02-06 23:50 lolcubes: da
2015-02-06 23:50 OnosakiHito: to nikakvo cujes sa tih hitsounds lol
2015-02-06 23:50 OnosakiHito: sat kapiram
2015-02-06 23:50 lolcubes: ovisi o hitsounds haha
2015-02-06 23:51 OnosakiHito: ali meh..., to ti je ono sto uvek kazem: Ponekad je bolje da se mapira stvari koje se stvarno ili bolje cuje.
2015-02-06 23:51 OnosakiHito: Inace moze praviti konfusiu.
2015-02-06 23:51 OnosakiHito: Kao sto se meni sat desilo
2015-02-06 23:51 OnosakiHito: lol
2015-02-06 23:51 lolcubes: ponekad, mislim da je ovdje ok posto je onaj tamo dio puno intenzivniji
2015-02-06 23:52 OnosakiHito: Sto se meni tice, mozes da ostavis. Ali nije to sat nisto sto bi ja nekome predlozio.
2015-02-06 23:52 OnosakiHito: nista*
2015-02-06 23:52 lolcubes: da, ipak smo svi razliciti haha
2015-02-06 23:52 OnosakiHito: don't come up with this lala lulu hahaha
2015-02-06 23:53 OnosakiHito: ai, nastavim
2015-02-06 23:54 OnosakiHito: 02:07:091 (993,994) - Sigurno si vec izprobo, ali bolje da pitam za ovo.
2015-02-06 23:54 OnosakiHito: Nisi voleo da imas samo K na 02:07:091 - ?
2015-02-06 23:54 lolcubes: drum je tamo i cuo bi se bez toga
2015-02-06 23:56 OnosakiHito: ovo si lepo uradio 02:29:462 -
2015-02-06 23:56 OnosakiHito: da si na svaki 8/1 menjo od finisher na no-finisher
2015-02-06 23:56 lolcubes: tako muzika i sugerira, zbog drum koji povezuje :;D
2015-02-06 23:57 OnosakiHito: takve note 02:20:891 (1093) - ili 02:09:919 - si extra ostavio bez kat?
2015-02-06 23:58 OnosakiHito: Za variaciju, ili zbog cega?
2015-02-06 23:58 lolcubes: to je 5/4 ritam
2015-02-06 23:58 lolcubes: tu nebi trebo bit kat
2015-02-06 23:58 lolcubes: to kasnije vidis bolje kada razvijem sekciju na 5note paterne
2015-02-06 23:58 lolcubes: k ddddk ddddk ddk
2015-02-06 23:59 lolcubes: ako tam stavim kat onda bi islo k ddddk ddkdk ddk
2015-02-06 23:59 lolcubes: a to je meh na 5/4
2015-02-07 00:00 OnosakiHito: weeeeeeeeeeeee
2015-02-07 00:00 OnosakiHito: preko 50%
2015-02-07 00:00 OnosakiHito: jej party party
2015-02-07 00:00 lolcubes: 2 hours later
2015-02-07 00:00 lolcubes: XD
2015-02-07 00:01 OnosakiHito: ako za ovo nedobijem kudosu,
2015-02-07 00:01 OnosakiHito: i ovo neko poppa
2015-02-07 00:01 OnosakiHito: zajebi
2015-02-07 00:01 OnosakiHito: lol
2015-02-07 00:01 lolcubes: zao mi je jedino sta banananananananananen je modo onak
2015-02-07 00:02 OnosakiHito: oh
2015-02-07 00:02 lolcubes: prije 2 dana
2015-02-07 00:02 lolcubes: inace bi ti dobio 2 kd
2015-02-07 00:02 lolcubes: :D
2015-02-07 00:02 OnosakiHito: 03:04:519 (1396) -
2015-02-07 00:02 OnosakiHito: necu da preteram, ali aj, i ako si mi reko zbog cekaj hoces da imas ddddd etc., ipak cu da pitam dali hoces kat ovde
2015-02-07 00:03 OnosakiHito: cega*
2015-02-07 00:03 lolcubes: dkd kraj je fuj, radije kdd zbog ddkkddk iza
2015-02-07 00:03 lolcubes: ali radije bih ddddd
2015-02-07 00:03 lolcubes: zbog gitare
2015-02-07 00:03 OnosakiHito: ok
2015-02-07 00:03 lolcubes: sad dolazimo do dijela gdje sam ti prico za kkkdk kkddk kdddk :P
2015-02-07 00:05 OnosakiHito: ok
2015-02-07 00:05 OnosakiHito: 03:15:319 (1494,1497) - oboje kat
2015-02-07 00:05 OnosakiHito: znam sta mislis, tako da necu puno da kazem zbog toga.
2015-02-07 00:05 OnosakiHito: zamo hocu da.... um.... want it to mention
2015-02-07 00:05 lolcubes: ma znas sta
2015-02-07 00:05 lolcubes: 03:15:062 (1492,1493,1494,1495,1496,1497,1498) -
2015-02-07 00:06 lolcubes: kddkddk
2015-02-07 00:06 lolcubes: :D
2015-02-07 00:06 OnosakiHito: HE APPLIED IT
2015-02-07 00:06 OnosakiHito: WOW
2015-02-07 00:06 OnosakiHito: xD
2015-02-07 00:08 OnosakiHito: 03:29:462 (1611) - zar nebi rebalo ovo biti finisher? kao sto su 03:18:490 (1518) - i 03:23:976 (1560) -
2015-02-07 00:08 OnosakiHito: savki 8/1
2015-02-07 00:08 OnosakiHito: svaki*
2015-02-07 00:08 lolcubes: ahh nisi dobio zadnji update
2015-02-07 00:08 lolcubes: al da
2015-02-07 00:08 lolcubes: finish je
2015-02-07 00:09 OnosakiHito: oh
2015-02-07 00:09 OnosakiHito: ok
2015-02-07 00:09 OnosakiHito: update -> jos uvek finish
2015-02-07 00:09 OnosakiHito: nije finish*
2015-02-07 00:09 lolcubes: nisam zadnji update
2015-02-07 00:09 OnosakiHito: ok
2015-02-07 00:10 OnosakiHito: 03:32:119 (1635) - za ovo nisam siguran. Mozes da ostavis, ali mozda hoce da razmisljas o tome dalije dobro da se ostavi?
2015-02-07 00:10 lolcubes: pogledaj sad
2015-02-07 00:10 lolcubes: htio bih ostavit
2015-02-07 00:10 OnosakiHito: Ako skiads tu notu, mozes da pokazujes da bas tu pocinje stream-sekcija.
2015-02-07 00:10 lolcubes: pokazem ju sa kiai anyway :D
2015-02-07 00:11 OnosakiHito: stream je malo improvizacija?
2015-02-07 00:11 lolcubes: da
2015-02-07 00:11 lolcubes: svi veliki streamovi su 100% improvizacija ali ne u prazno
2015-02-07 00:12 OnosakiHito: dobro. Pase za mene.
2015-02-07 00:12 OnosakiHito: 03:42:747 (1746,1749) - k ?
2015-02-07 00:13 OnosakiHito: kao na 03:41:376 -, inace bi to razumeo kao... erm....
2015-02-07 00:13 OnosakiHito: dddddd -> "hi, kiai ends"
2015-02-07 00:13 lolcubes: hm
2015-02-07 00:13 lolcubes: ovaj slucaj je malo drugaciji
2015-02-07 00:13 lolcubes: npr
2015-02-07 00:13 lolcubes: ako tu napravim kddkddk
2015-02-07 00:13 lolcubes: onda bi bilo bolje da je D iza
2015-02-07 00:13 lolcubes: 03:41:119 (1731,1732,1733,1734,1735,1736,1737,1738) - ali to je tu
2015-02-07 00:13 lolcubes: ista paterna bi bila
2015-02-07 00:14 lolcubes: a muzika odlazi u decrescendo
2015-02-07 00:14 lolcubes: koji je izrazen preko kkddk
2015-02-07 00:14 OnosakiHito: aaaaah!
2015-02-07 00:14 OnosakiHito: hvala ti!
2015-02-07 00:14 OnosakiHito: To je to sta mi je faleo
2015-02-07 00:14 OnosakiHito: tacno.
2015-02-07 00:14 OnosakiHito: Na to sam bio i mislep.
2015-02-07 00:14 OnosakiHito: lol
2015-02-07 00:14 lolcubes: :D
2015-02-07 00:14 OnosakiHito: misleo*
2015-02-07 00:14 OnosakiHito: okay, okay. Onda pustimo to tako.
2015-02-07 00:15 lolcubes: sad dolaze sekcije koje su vrlo slicne u pocetku, gotovo iste, samo sam dodao pokoju notu da napravim 5note paterne od 3note+1
2015-02-07 00:16 lolcubes: kiai je identican osim extra donova za poveivanje i 04:36:833 (352,353,354,355,356,357) -
2015-02-07 00:16 lolcubes: ovo je namjerno invertirano zbog puno boljeg flowa, da sam mapirao isto ko u prvom kiai onda bi zvucalo cudno
2015-02-07 00:16 lolcubes: a prvi kiai ovako mapiran (bez ekstra noti) bi zvucao prazno
2015-02-07 00:18 lolcubes: 04:53:119 (498) - planiram promijenit u D
2015-02-07 00:18 OnosakiHito: okay, vide cu to za sekund. Ali prvo:
2015-02-07 00:18 OnosakiHito: 04:01:347 (56) - kat? Ovde neznam zbog cega sat nemas kiai. Mozda zobog ovih paterni sto imas. Ali normalno si uvek imo na svaki 2/4 jedan kat. Pa me ovo sat smetalo kad odjednom bilo maknuto.
2015-02-07 00:18 OnosakiHito: nemas kat*
2015-02-07 00:18 lolcubes: 01:10:262 (560) -
2015-02-07 00:18 lolcubes: to je bas ono o cem smo pricali, 3. promjena -> kkk a k kkk bi zvucalo too busy
2015-02-07 00:18 OnosakiHito: :[
2015-02-07 00:19 lolcubes: fun fact
2015-02-07 00:19 lolcubes: 560 je prva
2015-02-07 00:19 lolcubes: 56 je druga
2015-02-07 00:19 OnosakiHito: Hm. okay.
2015-02-07 00:19 lolcubes: LOL
2015-02-07 00:20 OnosakiHito: okay okay
2015-02-07 00:20 OnosakiHito: cekaj sekund
2015-02-07 00:21 OnosakiHito: 04:01:690 (59) - don
2015-02-07 00:21 OnosakiHito: 04:02:376 (64) - kat
2015-02-07 00:21 OnosakiHito: Sta mislis o ovoga?
2015-02-07 00:21 lolcubes: bilo bi awkward malo, npr
2015-02-07 00:21 lolcubes: k d d kkd d k kkk
2015-02-07 00:22 lolcubes: uhh my bad
2015-02-07 00:22 lolcubes: k d k kkd d k kkk
2015-02-07 00:22 lolcubes: k kkd d
2015-02-07 00:22 lolcubes: to mi je cudno
2015-02-07 00:22 lolcubes: a kkk na kraj mi zvuci ok
2015-02-07 00:22 lolcubes: ali
2015-02-07 00:22 lolcubes: 04:02:719 (66) - ovo bi mi bilo malo cudno iz nekog razloga
2015-02-07 00:23 lolcubes: a ako samo stavim k kkk
2015-02-07 00:23 lolcubes: kazem "busy" zbog 04:02:204 (62,63) -
2015-02-07 00:23 lolcubes: k kkk bi trazilo da mapiram ddd tamo
2015-02-07 00:23 lolcubes: jer cudno zvuci inace
2015-02-07 00:23 lolcubes: al znas sta
2015-02-07 00:24 lolcubes: k kkk cu napravit
2015-02-07 00:24 lolcubes: al necu imat kkd tamo nego ddd
2015-02-07 00:24 lolcubes: 04:02:204 (62,63,64) - ddd
2015-02-07 00:24 OnosakiHito: mislim da bi kkk d k ddddd bilo interessanto i zvuci dobro posto se menja od high-pitch pattern na low-pitch pattern.
2015-02-07 00:25 OnosakiHito: Kao da se um... as if they hug each other
2015-02-07 00:25 lolcubes: da ali
2015-02-07 00:25 lolcubes: ako stavim kkk
2015-02-07 00:25 lolcubes: 04:06:319 (96,97,98) - onda je ovaj puno slabiji
2015-02-07 00:25 lolcubes: dok je muzika puno jaca
2015-02-07 00:25 lolcubes: zato sam tamo inace iso sa kkd
2015-02-07 00:25 OnosakiHito: i ddddd bi onda imo vise emphasacije, posto ddddd zvuci jace sto bi pasalo za novu stanzu
2015-02-07 00:26 OnosakiHito: Hm.
2015-02-07 00:26 lolcubes: 04:02:204 (62,63,64) - pricam za ovo inace, ako je tu kkk (sad je ddd) onda ovo gore ^
2015-02-07 00:27 OnosakiHito: Zamene to vise lici kao "rise of patterns". kkk - (8/1) -> kkd - (4/1) -> kkk
2015-02-07 00:27 OnosakiHito: ali dobro, ako mislis da nije uredu, nema veze.
2015-02-07 00:28 OnosakiHito: U momentu vise pricam sa feeling, tako da nemogu mnogo dobar razlog da ti dam. :P
2015-02-07 00:28 lolcubes: hhehe
2015-02-07 00:29 OnosakiHito: 04:51:747 (484) - don finisher? Za alternate ye to malo onako.
2015-02-07 00:29 OnosakiHito: posto imamo ...kkk K kk....
2015-02-07 00:29 lolcubes: e vidis to je dobra pretpostavka
2015-02-07 00:30 lolcubes: ali ovo sam testirao jako
2015-02-07 00:30 lolcubes: cak i sa K se dobro igra
2015-02-07 00:30 lolcubes: 04:53:119 (498) - samo da te podsjetim ovo sam u D pretvorio
2015-02-07 00:30 lolcubes: ali
2015-02-07 00:30 lolcubes: samo za tebe
2015-02-07 00:30 lolcubes: mogu stavit 04:51:747 (484) - D
2015-02-07 00:30 lolcubes: i onda tu 04:53:119 (498) - k
2015-02-07 00:30 lolcubes: K*
2015-02-07 00:31 lolcubes: :P
2015-02-07 00:31 lolcubes: tako cu i napravit
2015-02-07 00:31 OnosakiHito: ok
2015-02-07 00:31 OnosakiHito: o7
2015-02-07 00:33 lolcubes: btw
2015-02-07 00:33 lolcubes: smanjio sam hp na 4
2015-02-07 00:34 lolcubes: iako 5 nije tesko, ipak da netko ko dobiva 75% moze pass
2015-02-07 00:34 lolcubes: xD
2015-02-07 00:34 OnosakiHito: 04:55:004 (518) - Hm, mozda stavi kat ovde? Stvar je sat u tome, stream je stvarno dugacak. I ipak si (prpostavim) malo mairo na vocal. Tako da mozda nije lose da imas takav pattern.
2015-02-07 00:34 OnosakiHito: E, super. To sam ti hteo na kraju da kazem zbog HP.
2015-02-07 00:34 OnosakiHito: Ja nemogu da pasujem sa 5 na HD lol
2015-02-07 00:34 OnosakiHito: song me ubije na kraju
2015-02-07 00:35 lolcubes: mislim da je kdkdk pretesko tu
2015-02-07 00:35 lolcubes: kdddkddkddk je lakse za vidit i igrat nego kdkdkddkddk
2015-02-07 00:35 OnosakiHito: Nisam bas siguran zbog toga.
2015-02-07 00:35 OnosakiHito: Ako pricamo o alternaiting, kdkdkd je ipak laksi.
2015-02-07 00:35 lolcubes: mislim da nema nista na 04:55:004 - sto bi sugeriralo da stavim kat
2015-02-07 00:35 OnosakiHito: zato sto je to standard pattern.
2015-02-07 00:36 OnosakiHito: Osim vocal.
2015-02-07 00:36 OnosakiHito: lol
2015-02-07 00:36 lolcubes: 04:55:004 (518,519) - radije bi stavio tu katove
2015-02-07 00:36 lolcubes: da ima kkk
2015-02-07 00:36 lolcubes: kkkddkddk pase
2015-02-07 00:36 OnosakiHito: posto ovo naprimer 04:55:176 (520,521,522,523,524,525,526) - bas ide sa vocal
2015-02-07 00:36 lolcubes: da ali
2015-02-07 00:36 OnosakiHito: i ako mozda gitara ili nesto drugo ima kddkddk
2015-02-07 00:36 lolcubes: fokus vokala je na 04:55:176 -
2015-02-07 00:36 lolcubes: al w/e
2015-02-07 00:36 lolcubes: reci mi za ovo gore
2015-02-07 00:37 lolcubes: 04:55:004 (518,519,520) - k
2015-02-07 00:37 lolcubes: tvoja i moja ideja skupa
2015-02-07 00:37 lolcubes: :P
2015-02-07 00:37 lolcubes: znaci
2015-02-07 00:37 OnosakiHito: onako. tbh. Zbog cega kkk?
2015-02-07 00:37 lolcubes: zato jer smatram da je kkk bolji intro od kdk
2015-02-07 00:37 lolcubes: ako je fokus na zadnjoj noti
2015-02-07 00:38 lolcubes: kkk ce biti bolja paterna za iskoristit ako se stream nastavlja
2015-02-07 00:38 lolcubes: kdk je vise onak
2015-02-07 00:38 lolcubes: "interrupt" kako da objasnim
2015-02-07 00:38 OnosakiHito: Samo se pitam zasto. To mi je sat malo problem ovde.
2015-02-07 00:38 lolcubes: al nemoj mislit na taj kkk da je solo
2015-02-07 00:38 lolcubes: npr
2015-02-07 00:38 lolcubes: ako razdvojis paternu na 5note paterne
2015-02-07 00:38 OnosakiHito: Posto vocal nije "jedan vocal" nego dva: "mi mi"
2015-02-07 00:38 lolcubes: dobis kdkkk
2015-02-07 00:38 lolcubes: i kddkddk
2015-02-07 00:39 lolcubes: neznam ak mene pitas
2015-02-07 00:39 lolcubes: kkddkdkdk
2015-02-07 00:39 lolcubes: zvuci ko spam
2015-02-07 00:39 OnosakiHito: http://puu.sh/fzlq7/7086f922cc.jpg
2015-02-07 00:39 lolcubes: radije kkddkdkkk
2015-02-07 00:39 OnosakiHito: to ti je vocal.
2015-02-07 00:39 lolcubes: pa da ali
2015-02-07 00:39 lolcubes: svi veliki streamovi su improvizacija
2015-02-07 00:39 lolcubes: nisam ciljao na vokal
2015-02-07 00:40 OnosakiHito: aha
2015-02-07 00:40 lolcubes: ovo je isto improvizacija
2015-02-07 00:40 lolcubes: zato jer kkk zavrsava na downbeat
2015-02-07 00:40 lolcubes: nije izmedju beatova
2015-02-07 00:40 lolcubes: (izmedju beatova je fuj za igrat haha)
2015-02-07 00:40 lolcubes: osim ako nije dkkkd chain :P
2015-02-07 00:40 lolcubes: al mislim da cu ostavit kao kdddk
2015-02-07 00:40 lolcubes: a ne kdkkk
2015-02-07 00:40 OnosakiHito: Da, to sam ukapiro. Ali je to ovaj put ipak malo "straightforward". Posto vocal i improvizacija se odjednom menja u istoj seciji; u isti stream, u isti stanza.
2015-02-07 00:41 lolcubes: zato jer bolje progressa paterna
2015-02-07 00:41 lolcubes: i onda je onaj kkk sto imam kasnije
2015-02-07 00:41 lolcubes: puno vise kul
2015-02-07 00:41 lolcubes: (to mi mmzz reko da mu je to najdrazi stream u mapi lol)
2015-02-07 00:42 OnosakiHito: Mislim, nakraju je to tvoja stvar, ali ovo je ipak malo "strange" ili kako da kazem.
2015-02-07 00:42 OnosakiHito: Ma, stream u celom je dobar.
2015-02-07 00:42 OnosakiHito: Ja ga isto volim.
2015-02-07 00:42 OnosakiHito: Ali to su ti male stvari koje nekapiram i ako mi kazes da je kkk mozda malo kul ili tako nesto. lol
2015-02-07 00:42 OnosakiHito: posto je jedna stvar da mapiras u mapi od secije do secije ponekad su drugi style
2015-02-07 00:43 lolcubes: bar smatram da je, jer je izoliran i unique
2015-02-07 00:43 lolcubes: :D
2015-02-07 00:43 OnosakiHito: ali da menjas od jednom je uvek mnogo... dangerous
2015-02-07 00:43 OnosakiHito: beoma.
2015-02-07 00:43 OnosakiHito: veoma*
2015-02-07 00:43 lolcubes: da ofc, ali muzika je tu unique
2015-02-07 00:43 lolcubes: no fear here
2015-02-07 00:43 OnosakiHito: Mislim, kao sto sam reko, mozes da mapiras kako hoces. Cak sam istu stvar uradio u augoedis.
2015-02-07 00:44 OnosakiHito: Ali ipak treba se malo paziti na sta ja emphasized u song. To ti je to sta mislim. :P
2015-02-07 00:44 OnosakiHito: Ai da nastavimo sa kraj
2015-02-07 00:44 lolcubes: aj
2015-02-07 00:45 lolcubes: meni se jebeno spava vec hahaha
2015-02-07 00:45 OnosakiHito: verujem
2015-02-07 00:45 lolcubes: digo sam se u 4am danas
2015-02-07 00:45 OnosakiHito: lol
2015-02-07 00:45 lolcubes: radio od 5
2015-02-07 00:45 lolcubes: :P
2015-02-07 00:46 OnosakiHito: to ti ije to
2015-02-07 00:46 OnosakiHito: goto vi smo. GOTOVI omg
2015-02-07 00:46 lolcubes: sluzbeno mozes rec
2015-02-07 00:46 lolcubes: 2 dana si moddao!
2015-02-07 00:46 lolcubes: poceo jucer zavrsio danas
2015-02-07 00:46 lolcubes: :D
2015-02-07 00:46 lolcubes: updated
2015-02-07 00:47 lolcubes: ak ti se neda mogu ja savelog postat
2015-02-07 00:47 OnosakiHito: XD
2015-02-07 00:47 OnosakiHito: imam vec log
2015-02-07 00:47 lolcubes: editiran? :D
2015-02-07 00:47 OnosakiHito: oh
2015-02-07 00:47 OnosakiHito: ok, dai mi
2015-02-07 00:47 OnosakiHito: lol
2015-02-07 00:47 lolcubes: XD
2015-02-07 00:47 lolcubes: sec
2015-02-07 00:47 OnosakiHito: daj*
2015-02-07 00:48 OnosakiHito: mapa je updated?
2015-02-07 00:48 lolcubes: da

#1 Bubble
Topic Starter
lolcubes
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Ayachi-
Woah nice
Stefan
00:46:862 (363,364) - I find a Double is too overused here. While 00:46:862 (363) is totally fine - due vocals - 00:46:948 (364) isn't really. I however get the transistion you want to use here.
01:00:577 (482,483) - same here but this time 01:00:577 (482) sounds not that good.
03:11:376 (1462,1463) - I find the Double is a bit too early, better make a ooo o pattern here.

Yeah, since they're troubles why I can't finish my mod properly right now *cough* I will do it later again. But honestly, they is really nothing wrong here at all. The only Doubles I've mentioned can be changed but doesn't have to be. Just finding them quite unfitting compared to the other Doubles you were using - 03:11:633 (1464,1465,1466,1467,1468,1469,1470,1471,1472,1473,1474,1475) is really great for example. At all: Very well made and fun to play (the BPM is delicious to play :3) so in case if anyone won't bubble it before I gladly do this. Otherwise, call me back for another recheck.
qoot8123
00:47:205 (366,367) - reverse these notes? i think it can make a good reflect with 00:46:862 (363,364) - this doublet.

00:48:062 (373) - how about move this note to 00:48:234 - and change to d i know you make a consistent with former part, but i think the vocal on this paragraph is different with former part, so it would be better if you use another pattern.

01:00:919 (485) - how about change it to d? i feel the drum sound is heavy on 01:00:834 (484) - ,only put kat here may emphasis the drum more clearly

01:27:920 (693) - move to 01:28:091 - and change to k , it may make the rhythm more clear

01:28:605 (697) - ^

04:19:005 (200) - ^

04:19:690 (204) - ^

01:37:177 (763,764,765) - change to ddk ? , to make consistent with 01:39:748 (786,789) -

01:48:320 (860) - ^

04:28:433 (275) - ^

04:39:405 (374) - ^

03:56:290 (18) - move to 03:55:604 - and change to d? it would be better if make the break on 03:56:290 -


that's all from me, i will give bubble #2 later :)
Stefan
^ well, then you can expect something nice today, based cubes
Topic Starter
lolcubes

Stefan wrote:

00:46:862 (363,364) - I find a Double is too overused here. While 00:46:862 (363) is totally fine - due vocals - 00:46:948 (364) isn't really. I however get the transistion you want to use here.
01:00:577 (482,483) - same here but this time 01:00:577 (482) sounds not that good.
Made some changes, it was 50/50 when Ono modded it so I will leave the notes on 1/2. Leaving that spot empty really feels wrong though.
As for the double you mentioned (that dk), i'd prefer not to change it because kats in that section go with the guitar, and while there is no guitar it's just a basic drum rhythm. That would be broken if I did the change you suggested.

qoot8123 wrote:

00:47:205 (366,367) - reverse these notes? i think it can make a good reflect with 00:46:862 (363,364) - this doublet. I have changed this in another way so the structure remains the same and there is no more double (people complained about it).

00:48:062 (373) - how about move this note to 00:48:234 - and change to d i know you make a consistent with former part, but i think the vocal on this paragraph is different with former part, so it would be better if you use another pattern. I see what you're doing here, and you are right, but what my intention here was is that progressively as the pitch changes, the patterns change too, but not in an unexpected way. For example, I was using kdd to reflect the guitar rhythm, which was changed to kkd here because there was a change in the music.

01:00:919 (485) - how about change it to d? i feel the drum sound is heavy on 01:00:834 (484) - ,only put kat here may emphasis the drum more clearly Same as the above :)
It's a progressive pattern transformation as they song goes, kdd -> kkd.


01:27:920 (693) - move to 01:28:091 - and change to k , it may make the rhythm more clear

01:28:605 (697) - ^

04:19:005 (200) - ^

04:19:690 (204) - ^ I actually like your idea here, but it goes against the idea of the breaks I had here. Since the map is really dense and packed with notes, these breaks were made according to the vocals because you could say the singer is "taking a breath" here, so I wanted the player to "take a breath" here too.

01:37:177 (763,764,765) - change to ddk ? , to make consistent with 01:39:748 (786,789) -

01:48:320 (860) - ^

04:28:433 (275) - ^

04:39:405 (374) - ^ I'd rather not to. :< The idea here was to use kats as the primary "interrupt", creating rhythm. If I had more of them then the rhythm would be stale, besides the intention here was to alternate dons and kats on every downbeat as much as possible, so it creates more diversity.

03:56:290 (18) - move to 03:55:604 - and change to d? it would be better if make the break on 03:56:290 - Actually just adding a note there would be even better, but I don't want to add more notes, there are 2808 of them already. :D
I really wanted to take some suggestions from your mod, but they just didn't work out as I had hoped they did, they were solid suggestions regardless.
I really appreciate you took a look though, it did give me more perspective. ╭( ・ㅂ・)و

Map updated.
TKS
just minor things.

00:07:434 (27) - feels a little weird that compare with previous pattern. maybe that should be changed to kkk.
actually 00:03:234 (2,3,4) - and 00:05:977 (18,19,20) - both have kkd there even though each has different pitches.

00:09:748 - no needed to make a break there. you are focusing at both the drum and guitar sounds, right? if so, you should make a break at 00:10:434 - . i mean consider removing these 00:10:434 (47,48) - notes since there is no their sounds(i can hear an instrument sound but must not follow it for the flow). instead, you can add a don at 00:09:748 - . thats plays better imo.

00:40:520 (312) - don fits better to emphasize kat at 00:40:777 (315) - . also its just for the bassdrum(tom?) sound.

00:50:377 - suddenly following sound has switched to the vocal ;_; consider adding a don to maintain the previous flow.
00:50:891 (395,396,397,398) - are alright since 00:50:720 (394) - works for that.

btw, if you want to use a silent spinner. drum sampleset is better than normal sampleset because taiko mode doesnt have a hitsound for drum sampleset basically. idk its rankable tho :D
Topic Starter
lolcubes

TKS wrote:

just minor things.

00:07:434 (27) - feels a little weird that compare with previous pattern. maybe that should be changed to kkk.
actually 00:03:234 (2,3,4) - and 00:05:977 (18,19,20) - both have kkd there even though each has different pitches. You are correct, the kdk was because of difference in pitch, but changing either of these kkd would reduce gameplay I think. I just don't think kdd would work here.

00:09:748 - no needed to make a break there. you are focusing at both the drum and guitar sounds, right? if so, you should make a break at 00:10:434 - . i mean consider removing these 00:10:434 (47,48) - notes since there is no their sounds(i can hear an instrument sound but must not follow it for the flow). instead, you can add a don at 00:09:748 - . thats plays better imo. This is actually an amazing catch. I removed those 2 notes but I didn't add a don here because it would feel a bit dense to me. Removing those 2 notes actually brought this kd into a bigger light as well, so it looks much better to me.

00:40:520 (312) - don fits better to emphasize kat at 00:40:777 (315) - . also its just for the bassdrum(tom?) sound. Hmm, while you're right, I also think a kdkkd for these 00:40:262 (308,309,310,311,312) - is a little better than kdkdd, so I want to keep ;_;

00:50:377 - suddenly following sound has switched to the vocal ;_; consider adding a don to maintain the previous flow.
00:50:891 (395,396,397,398) - are alright since 00:50:720 (394) - works for that. You are absolutely right.

btw, if you want to use a silent spinner. drum sampleset is better than normal sampleset because taiko mode doesnt have a hitsound for drum sampleset basically. idk its rankable tho :D
Sure. :D About rankability, I don't think it would matter here at all since it changes nothing, just a small aesthetic change which works wonders.
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ありがとございます <3
qoot8123
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Nwolf
*attempts to steal heart*


...ok that wouldn't end good maybe???
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