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EX Industry - Memory

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Andrea
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on sabato 7 dicembre 2013 at 10:45:01

Artist: EX Industry
Title: Memory
Source: Ib
Tags: osuplayer111 garry mary game eve rose kioku kouri remix
BPM: 111,9
Filesize: 2692kb
Play Time: 01:09
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,92 stars, 70 notes)
  2. Hard (4,79 stars, 157 notes)
  3. Normal (4,02 stars, 96 notes)
Download: EX Industry - Memory
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My 191th Beatmap.

I hope you will like and enjoy it <3

Mapset:

Hard - Done.
Normal - Done.
Easy - Done.
Last edited by Andrea , edited 16 times in total.
Momochikun
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Momochikun
#1 :3
Suimya
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Suimya
#2 owo
Natsu
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Natsu
baka I know this owo ♥ call me for mod when you finish btw #3
Sure
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Sure
:D

log
19:33 ykcarrot: metronome works weird
19:33 Andrea: it seems so orz
19:34 Andrea: I spent 1 hour to time it
19:34 Andrea: loool
19:34 ykcarrot: anyway it's simple and good
19:34 Andrea: yaaay :D
19:34 Andrea: check editor for timing www
19:34 Andrea: thanks so much for test carrot-sama <3
19:34 ykcarrot: my pleasure :D
19:35 ykcarrot: f1. Offset: 835ms BPM: 111.80
19:35 ykcarrot: should be 3/4 o_o
19:36 Andrea: oh that's why =3="
19:36 Andrea: others too I guess?
19:36 ykcarrot: let me see..
19:37 ykcarrot: yeah. every metronome of timings should be 3/4
19:38 Andrea: yep, definitely lol
Lally
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Lally
*D*
Andrea
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Andrea
Ready for mods :3
Wander Away
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Wander Away
Are you gonna be making more difficulties? :3
I was having a hard time trying to find Ib songs on Osu >.<
Andrea
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Andrea
Mapset is finished already.

And yup, finding Ib songs here it's pretty hard~
Sephibro
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Sephibro
il soft-hitfinish da' un po' fastidio giocando perche' dovrebbe avere il picco all'inizio, non dopo 20 ms:


eccoti il .wav tagliato nel punto giusto: http://puu.sh/5qOot.wav (click destro > Salva destinazione con nome)

Secondo me potresti cambiare anche il soft-hitnormal con quello della skin default, il bam bam bam bam copre troppo la melodia imo
Andrea
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Andrea
Changed and updated, thanks. :)
Kurokami
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Kurokami
Random mod because Nyandrea is hentai.

[Sound]

00:05:128 (2) - How about to place it a bit down to match better with the flow?
SPOILER
00:05:665 (3,1,2) - I don't really like the placement for (1). It gives me and unnatural feeling during testplay. I tried something like this, but if you have better idea just ignore it.
SPOILER
00:15:325 (2,3,1,2,3) - Try something like this? (2) is a bit too low currently and gives unnatural feeling.
SPOILER
00:57:576 (1) - Move the endpoint to the center and the result will be splendid. :3

Maybe they are ignorable changes but I think it gives better playability.

[Melody]

00:09:958 (1,2) - For some reason a repeat on (1) sounds better but maybe its enough if you just add a circle to 00:11:031 instead of (2).
00:27:762 (1) - Why not an 1/2 slider? There is a very nice sound at 00:28:040. o.o
00:32:918 - Why empty? Something really needs here. Maybe you can add a repeat to (2) and move (3) 1/2 later for better rhythm.

Asside from these I think this is a really nice difficulty. Good work. :3

[Carillon]

00:25:262 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Something interesting needs here. I wonder if you can use something like this, well (7) will be a bit far away this way...
SPOILER
00:41:037 (7) - Are you sure that this circle under the slider really needs? The rhythm is sounds good even w/o it end it plays better too.

Nice. \o/
[]

The first mapset from you which is easy enough to be fcable to me too. \o/ Well, this song is calm enough for it. Nice spread and good luck with ranking, well it will be ranked in 3 days anyways. lol
Nyukai
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Nyukai
Good luck~
Darksonic
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Darksonic
Ib <3
Sonnyc
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Sonnyc
Think I've heard this somewhere in osu lol

Sound:

00:08:348 (2,3) - (2): (208,132) and (3): (200,32) for better flow on 00:10:495 (1).
00:55:954 (3,1) - Imo, it would be better if they were parallel.

Melody:

00:58:657 (3) - This curves abit high, while 00:58:116 (2) is a straight slider. I think that makes the flow broken. Try making like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1123950
01:01:630 (2) - 1 grid up?
01:04:873 (2) - (252,118) the start, (312,154) the end for a better line.
01:06:563 (4) - 1 grid up?

Carillon:

00:20:423 (2) - 1 Grid down the last slider dot to make a better line with the next note.
00:21:496 (5,1) - I think this combo isn't right? Maybe was this because of the symmetry pattern in 00:22:301 (1)?
00:24:448 (1) - Imo, adding a whistle at the head sounds really nice, despite it breaks your hit sound pattern.
00:28:318 (2) - Well, I think the selected Finish on the head sounds too long, affecting 00:28:588. I feel just placing a Whistle makes more sense.
00:42:441 (4) - I think hit sounds are lacking diversity. Try adding Whistle here, and other similar parts like this at least in kiai. 00:44:062 (8) too. They will sound nice with the bell imo.
00:55:954 (5,6) - I think the jump was too large comparing to other parts. Try this kind of sliders? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1123943
01:04:062 (7) - NC? Fine to keep if you want to avoid short combo.

Again, I think hitsounds are lacking which is little sad. Map was nice btw :3

Good luck Andrea ;)
Andrea
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Andrea
Thanks for the mods, guys!

Applied almost everything and updated.
Luna-
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Luna-
mod request via pm
Ib <3

[Sound]
00:11:031 (2)- the slider feels something.. weird? xP change it like this http://puu.sh/5tdxK.jpg
01:07:674 (1)- the spinner feels shorter and it's close to previous circle, I think it would be better if you delete 01:07:396 (5)- and start the spinner there.
[Melody]
00:05:665 (4,5)- don't feel the rhythm when i'm doing click here, try this: http://puu.sh/5teJs.jpg or: http://puu.sh/5tedq.jpg
00:50:819 (5)- delete this circle
[Carillon]
There is something about new combos that i think doesn't keep well, because you are starting nc in the slider where the tail is on the strong beat, i wasn't sure about this on sound and melody, but here think you need to change it, it supposed you are starting a new rhythm and you are putting it on the last note, just saying.
00:04:323 (2)- start NC here
00:07:543 (2)- ^
00:13:983 (2)- ^
00:17:203 (2)- ^
00:20:423 (2)- ^
00:22:033 (6)- here is different but think the same, ^
00:25:262 (2)- ^
00:30:212 (7)- Maybe NC here?
00:31:836 (2)- start NC here
00:35:083 (2)- ^
00:38:331 (2)- ^
00:54:603 (2)- ^
00:57:846 (2)- ^

I wait this noob mod helps :)
Natsu
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Natsu
HI~ Andrea owo mod as I promise

General:
  1. Clean and Kawaii

Carrillon:
  1. 00:02:176 (5) - this need to be on y:90 to keep the symetry with previous 1
  2. 00:04:860 (3,6) - same as above check the ¨y¨
  3. 00:08:080 (3,6) - check the stack look kinda weird in game you told me I can be nazi here so /me runs
  4. 00:13:178 (1) - this slider its not symetrical owo just move the left middle slider point 1 grid to the left
  5. 00:32:648 (4) - the actually way dont play good for me since if you move 4 a little up will flow better with previous and next slider and will keep the symetry like:
    SPOILER
  6. 00:40:496 (6,7) - fix this stack
  7. 01:04:062 (1,2) - just as personal prefference but the actually way play kinda weird also look like it why you dont try to make a blanket with 1 and 2 like:
    SPOILER

Melody:
  1. 00:08:348 (2,3,4) - since I dont like this straigh form with the tail 3 and 4 take in considerationb the slider is curved so moving 3 and 4 in a little curved way will play really more confortable thought
  2. 00:17:740 (2) - symilar as above try to move 2 some grids down to improve the flow owo like:
    SPOILER


Fine:
  1. 00:05:665 (3) - rotate this in 10º selection centre (clockwise) and move to x:272 y:320 play better imo
  2. 00:13:715 (1,2) - this play kinda weird try to redo the slider maybe like
    SPOILER
  3. 00:57:576 (1) - Redo this slider try to keep the same straight line as 00:55:954 (3) - like:
    SPOILER

Pretty cool mapset and lovely song baka didn't find much orz ;)
Andrea
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Andrea
Thanks for the mods guys, fixed some small stuff. :3
Suimya
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Suimya
Andrea baka owo/

I'm kinda lazy so don't expect anything much =3=

General:
  1. remove "ib" from the tags, it's too short and no one can search it anyways lol
  2. uncheck the widescreen support, you didn't use any widescreen sb here baka =3=

Sound:
cs-1 pls ;w; this huge circles are scary for this soft song :c
  1. 00:04:055 (1) - I think this slider will flow better if you made it like this instead
    SPOILER
  2. 00:07:275 (1) - idk..but using liner slider on this kind of songs is kinda odd, so how about making it a curve instead?
    SPOILER
  3. 00:16:398 (1) - ^
    SPOILER
  4. 00:24:985 (4,5) - ^
    SPOILER
  5. 00:45:143 (2,3) - an e.g of bad flow =3= those notes don't flow good imo how about changing them like this?
    SPOILER
  6. 01:07:396 (5) - move this note to x:92 y:168 to make better tringle flow

Melody:
  1. 00:02:981 (4) - move this slider one grid to left so it'll make better blanket with 00:01:908 (3) -
  2. 00:09:153 (3) - i think if you switch those 2 notes into 1 short 1/2 slider would be better for the diff since it is normal diff anyways o3o
clean diff =w=/


Carillon:
  1. 00:37:248 (8) - how about moving this note like this instead
    SPOILER

okbye~
Andrea
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Fixed almost everything, thank you for checking! :3
Wander Away
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Wander Away
The note sound doesn't quite fit in, although I do like the thumping sound, you might wanna try adding something else to it? It sounds kinda boring right now :3
Andrea
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Andrea
I already changed hitsounds samples, you should redownload probably. :P
Moway
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Moway
Heya

[General]

Not sure how much I like kiai for this song since it is so gentle. Consider only using the fountains, since I think those fit alright.

[Sound]

00:11:031 (2,3) - I don't particularly like this part because the slide isn't emphasizing anything here, unlike the ones you had before which fell on the strong music box notes. I would map this part like this: http://puu.sh/5vRK3.jpg You don't have to use all the circles like that, but I definitely recommend that slider position.
00:16:398 - 00:19:081 - The sliders in this section are mapped opposite to how you map the rest of the map for some reason. I would suggest remapping this part so that the sliders start on the music box notes instead of ending on them, so that you can keep consistency with that theme.
00:51:089 (1,2) - I would make this part slider then circle. This puts emphasis on the music box note at 00:52:170 and even more emphasis on the stronger music box note at 00:51:089.

[Melody]

00:51:089 (1) - kind of a nazi thing, but lower this just a little bit. The scorebar ki can hit it if it is near it.

That's all for this one, I thought it was a bit strange that you mapped this diff with a lot of the music box notes on the ends of sliders, but on this one you were more consistent with it so I assume that was your intention for this diff.

[Carillion]

00:01:908 (4,5) - switch the slider and circle here I think. It fits the music better.
00:42:441 (4,5) - switch the slider and circle for these ones. This will put the slider so that it is mapped on the high pitched ascending music box part.
00:51:900 (2) - this slider feels off because its start maps to that really quiet lower tone. I prefer something like this, which maps the slider to the music box better. http://puu.sh/5vTCd.jpg

That's all~
Andrea
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Andrea
Thanks a lot for checking, fixed the kiai and some small stuff that you mentioned, updated. :)
Irreversible
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Irreversible
Hi! IRC checked the diffs, and they seemed pretty good already :)

IRC Mod
2013-12-02 16:55 Irreversible: 00:13:715 (1,2,3) - this is really a harsh flow change somehow, don't you think so? what about something smoother.
2013-12-02 16:55 Andrea: oh irc? fine :D
2013-12-02 16:55 Irreversible: the main problem is like..
2013-12-02 16:55 Irreversible: yeah
2013-12-02 16:55 Irreversible: 1 -> 2 -> 3 is so straight
2013-12-02 16:56 Andrea: hmm yeah you're right
2013-12-02 16:56 Irreversible: i know
2013-12-02 16:56 Irreversible: otherwise i wouldn't suggest
2013-12-02 16:56 Irreversible: loljk
2013-12-02 16:56 Irreversible: xDDD
2013-12-02 16:56 Andrea: xDD
2013-12-02 16:56 Andrea: ok changed the flow a bit =w=
2013-12-02 16:57 Irreversible: 00:18:008 (3,1) -
2013-12-02 16:57 Irreversible: ok
2013-12-02 16:57 Irreversible: they both end on a big white tick
2013-12-02 16:57 Irreversible: people should be able to click that
2013-12-02 16:57 Irreversible: where you can hear this really loud .. ding?
2013-12-02 16:57 Irreversible: and not be like 'oh no, why did this slider end on the big white tick where I really wanted to click something, I vote 1 now'
2013-12-02 16:57 Irreversible: you should change it like thaaat.
2013-12-02 16:57 Irreversible: wait.
2013-12-02 16:57 Irreversible: 00:16:398 (1) - same for this one btw
2013-12-02 16:57 Andrea: the timing of this song is on 1/3
2013-12-02 16:57 Andrea: I've added a whistle every big white tick o3o
2013-12-02 16:58 Irreversible: o.o
2013-12-02 16:58 Irreversible: that's not the point
2013-12-02 16:58 Irreversible: look, let me explain to you
2013-12-02 16:58 Irreversible: 00:16:935 - can you hear this really loud sound?
2013-12-02 16:58 Irreversible: well.. really
2013-12-02 16:58 Irreversible: but it's louder and more emphaiszed
2013-12-02 16:58 Irreversible: 00:18:545 - same here
2013-12-02 16:58 Irreversible: 00:20:155 - and here
2013-12-02 16:58 Andrea: yeah and? o3o
2013-12-02 16:58 Irreversible: okay, the problem now is
2013-12-02 16:59 Irreversible: loud sounds should be more emphasized - but you've done it 'not really recommendable' , can you understand that a click is more emphasizing than a -leave-thebutton- ?
2013-12-02 16:59 Andrea: oh, I got it
2013-12-02 16:59 Irreversible: my hands are cold, sorry
2013-12-02 16:59 Andrea: I usually don't really follow that though due to my symmetry style ;w;
2013-12-02 17:00 Irreversible: you need a suggestion (picutre) or can you fix it yourself?
2013-12-02 17:00 Irreversible: well, you should
2013-12-02 17:00 Irreversible: 00:26:096 (5) - but for example this one is good
2013-12-02 17:01 Irreversible: because it's an end here.
2013-12-02 17:01 Irreversible: 00:29:400 (3) - don't you think 466 211 would provide a better, natural flow?
2013-12-02 17:02 Andrea: you meant 426 ?
2013-12-02 17:02 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/5zTwI.jpg
2013-12-02 17:03 Andrea: oh, I see
2013-12-02 17:03 Irreversible: 00:31:565 (1,2,3) - basically the same idea as here
2013-12-02 17:04 Andrea: wait a sec
2013-12-02 17:04 Andrea: I'm fixing the pattern of before D:
2013-12-02 17:04 Irreversible: ah
2013-12-02 17:04 Irreversible: sure
2013-12-02 17:04 Irreversible: let me look through the rest :3
2013-12-02 17:05 Irreversible: 00:45:143 (2,3,4) - that's a really weird and boring pattern.. 00:42:981 (3) - combined with this, you just go in one big circle >< maybe make something with a big straight varation?
2013-12-02 17:06 Irreversible: stupid normals, you always have to rearrange like EVERYTHING xD
2013-12-02 17:06 Andrea: let me try some sliders instead
2013-12-02 17:06 Andrea: I didn't really liked these circles anyways xD
2013-12-02 17:06 Irreversible: 00:58:657 (2) - a bit round let's the part shine even more :3 204 332 hue
2013-12-02 17:07 Irreversible: 01:04:603 - for here: http://puu.sh/5zTJq.jpg
2013-12-02 17:07 Irreversible: a circle on this offset change let's the part emphaisze even better imo
2013-12-02 17:07 Andrea: okay :3
2013-12-02 17:08 Andrea: fixed them
2013-12-02 17:08 Irreversible: cool
2013-12-02 17:09 Irreversible: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/327791 EX Industry - Memory [Melody]]
2013-12-02 17:09 Irreversible: 00:56:495 (5,6) - is this aligned properly?
2013-12-02 17:10 Andrea: yup
2013-12-02 17:10 Andrea: same axis
2013-12-02 17:10 Irreversible: 00:22:838 (1) - same here
2013-12-02 17:10 Irreversible: oh i see
2013-12-02 17:10 Irreversible: looks weird o.o
2013-12-02 17:10 Irreversible: huh
2013-12-02 17:10 Andrea: just check y axis
2013-12-02 17:10 Andrea: it's the same :D
2013-12-02 17:10 Irreversible: yeah i did
2013-12-02 17:10 Irreversible: i'm like wondering now
2013-12-02 17:11 Irreversible: that one is good :3
2013-12-02 17:11 Andrea: yaaay :D
2013-12-02 17:11 Irreversible: 00:28:318 (2) - NC?
2013-12-02 17:11 Irreversible: new pattern
2013-12-02 17:12 Irreversible: the problem is
2013-12-02 17:12 Irreversible: because you're always using this downbeat 'stuff'
2013-12-02 17:12 Andrea: I hate single combo though
2013-12-02 17:12 Andrea: xD
2013-12-02 17:12 Irreversible: you have problems with NC imo
2013-12-02 17:12 Irreversible: yeah me too
2013-12-02 17:12 Irreversible: lol xD
2013-12-02 17:12 Irreversible: 00:57:035 (1) - take this as an example
2013-12-02 17:12 Andrea: yeah, it's my usual mapping style =3=
2013-12-02 17:12 Irreversible: normall this wouldn't be C
2013-12-02 17:12 Irreversible: NC
2013-12-02 17:12 Irreversible: quite important imo..
2013-12-02 17:12 Irreversible: you should take care
2013-12-02 17:13 Irreversible: 00:02:713 (6) - flow 492 148
2013-12-02 17:14 Irreversible: yeah
2013-12-02 17:14 Irreversible: most things are ok
2013-12-02 17:14 Irreversible: 00:21:228 (4,5) -
2013-12-02 17:14 Irreversible: but this
2013-12-02 17:14 Irreversible: press ctrl + g
2013-12-02 17:14 Irreversible: for the rhythm
2013-12-02 17:14 Irreversible: that one is like really weird
2013-12-02 17:15 Andrea: okay, fixing
2013-12-02 17:16 Andrea: done o3o
2013-12-02 17:17 Irreversible: how to be Irreversible
2013-12-02 17:17 Irreversible: do a irc, and receive one at the same time!
2013-12-02 17:17 Irreversible: 00:29:400 (5,6) - same here

What we've fixed

- Got rid of weird downbeat rhythms (sometimes I had to leave them due to symmetry, but taken out the worst ones)
- Aesthetics aka natural flow

Tell me when you've updated!
Andrea
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Andrea
Updated, thanks a lot for the mod. :)
Irreversible
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Irreversible
Alright, so why letting the map wait further if it's ready to go :)

Anttetion Attention

- Please check the Timing before you rank it, it seems fine for me, but I'm not 100% sure about double bpms!
- The symmetry downbeat-rhythms are okay. I've checked them, and you can fully enjoy them!

Bubbled! :)
Aurele
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Aurele
HOW WAS I NOT AWARE OF THIS MAP?

WHAT THE F.

Hi Andrea ♥
LexiaLovesU
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Italian-Hentai-Baka
your so pro desu~~ =w= gogo get rank <3
Shiro
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Shiro
first offset is 839
add a section at 00:38:060 - with 109 BPM
add a section at 00:54:338 -
add a section at 01:02:452 -

sliders ending on white ticks are the worst idea ever
good luck
grumd
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grumd
Okay I have a bit different timing.
First few notes with 839 first offset sound really early, so:
855 119.9 bpm
16940 112.2 bpm
24961 107 bpm
28318 110.85 bpm
38060 109.4 bpm
41350 110.85 bpm
64083 110 bpm
65730 109 bpm
69115 109.4 bpm (not important one)

Edit:
poof!
855,536.193029490617,3,2,1,30,1,0
16940,534.75935828877,3,2,1,30,1,0
24961,560.747663551402,3,2,1,30,1,0
28318,541.27198917456,3,2,1,50,1,0
38060,548.446069469835,3,2,1,50,1,0
41350,541.27198917456,3,2,1,70,1,1
64083,545.454545454546,3,2,1,70,1,0
65730,550.45871559633,3,2,1,70,1,0
69115,548.446069469835,3,2,1,50,1,0
Andrea
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Andrea
That timing is perfect, grumd. <3

I also checked Shiro's but sadly I don't think it's correct.

Updated~
grumd
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grumd
Well yeah, we also changed some patterns with sliders ending on white tick. I'm now pretty fine with this map.
Rebubble!
Andrea
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Thanks a lot for all the help :)
Aurele
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Aurele
it's not the same mp3 as Megurine's map?
grumd
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grumd

Gabe wrote:

it's not the same mp3 as Megurine's map?
Hm, even if not, it's a nice idea to take that mp3 and timing anyway
The mp3s are of a different length
Andrea
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Andrea
I took the mp3 from official Ib's Soundtracks and cutted it, so it's probably different. :P
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