Is it me or is the twitch chat just a stream of hate and racism during world cup matches?
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I noticed it on Korea vs. Norway match. Though it wasn't really too much.
It's not easy to stop this imo.
It's not easy to stop this imo.
Soarezi
Is it me or has twitch trained people to talk shit in chat 24/7? There's no hope on that site. I think it has something to do with the emotes and hopeless moderation system.
Soarezi
You should put like 2-5 minute slowmode on, and in extreme cases put subscribers only on.peppy wrote:
Is it me or has twitch trained people to talk shit in chat 24/7? There's no hope on that site. I think it has something to do with the emotes and hopeless moderation system.
Also, you should be able to let only people with facebook accounts connected to their twitch accounts talk in there, it wouldn't stop it completely but it would help a bit, i think.
Mamoru Senpai
The chat during Germany vs UK genuinely made me sad, same with the people who give the commentators shit. I can't think of any reasonable way to moderate it either though 
5 minute slowmode is not the solution. twitch is some form of weird community that contains mostly people who have to remember to breathe or else they begin to suffocate. People are used to using a twitch stream chat as a toilet, by saying something retarded, and then following up with the word 'Kappa'. ASCII swastikas are also common.
Perhaps next year, an embedded page on the website with a stream from some non-twitch broadcaster would be a better idea. Advertise it on the OWC thread, and in announcements etc. Probably won't get the same publicity.
For the remaining match(es) ban people without warning for anything racist.
Perhaps next year, an embedded page on the website with a stream from some non-twitch broadcaster would be a better idea. Advertise it on the OWC thread, and in announcements etc. Probably won't get the same publicity.
For the remaining match(es) ban people without warning for anything racist.
Over time the word Troll has lost all meaning, those people aren't trolling.Soarezi wrote:
Twitch is nothing but full of trolls trolling other trolls.
r9k mode and have someone dedicated to moderating the chat.
it's actually possible to keep a Twitch chat civil, you need around 15 mods who only focus on chat, constantly banning everything stupid. Takes a few streams to take effect so that people start to think before writing, and since we only have 4(?) matches left it's not really worth it I guess
Amazing idea.Lach wrote:
Perhaps next year, an embedded page on the website with a stream from some non-twitch broadcaster would be a better idea. Advertise it on the OWC thread, and in announcements etc. Probably won't get the same publicity.
Obviously people will NOT talk in English during international events such as this, mostly because they don't know it well. Also seriously, the twitch audience is mostly shit and you shouldn't pay attention to most of them (especially when it's country vs country, obviously national hate is going to spread there like a wild disease). Either that or get mods on the channel in every popular language and have them ban the idiots, though that can be hard with the amount of spam per second sometimes...
Due to the amount of people watching stream, slow mode helps NOTHING.
Stream chat is so fast, that trying to keep up with it is almost impossible.
Stream chat is so fast, that trying to keep up with it is almost impossible.
get a bot in there then
We already have nightbot - he is good at cleaning chat from really random shit (doge ascii, hitler ascii, etc.), but bots can't understand sentences *sadly*
Soarezi
you can add words, for example the n word and such, but then again it wouldn't stop people from using alternative words.Marcin wrote:
We already have nightbot - he is good at cleaning chat from really random shit (doge ascii, hitler ascii, etc.), but bots can't understand sentences *sadly*
just get alot of mods there, who constantly watch the chat and not afk
this worksSoarezi wrote:
just get alot of mods there, who constantly watch the chat and not afk
also, it usually is possible to follow the chat, the only occasions were that probably isn't doable anymore is after a map when somone SS'd and carried the team and won by 10 points or something
What about us normal non-sociopaths without facebook?Soarezi wrote:
You should put like 2-5 minute slowmode on, and in extreme cases put subscribers only on.peppy wrote:
Is it me or has twitch trained people to talk shit in chat 24/7? There's no hope on that site. I think it has something to do with the emotes and hopeless moderation system.
Also, you should be able to let only people with facebook accounts connected to their twitch accounts talk in there, it wouldn't stop it completely but it would help a bit, i think.
We don't talk anyway.Liiraye wrote:
What about us normal non-sociopaths without facebook?
People have ended up thinking that "trolling = flaming" so they go and try to make everyone sad by insulting them so they can be leet trollz0r.
I'd say to just disable chat completely but there are probably quite a bit of people who would have genuine questions (such as non-osu players wholike how the game looks
)
I'd say to just disable chat completely but there are probably quite a bit of people who would have genuine questions (such as non-osu players wholike how the game looks
)
If the answers for those questions would be genuine as well...............
Please don't look at twitch chat, look at the gameplay instead
Exactly...
Sad when people have to talk about political tensions between countries using Chinese on something like osu as well...
Sad when people have to talk about political tensions between countries using Chinese on something like osu as well...
It's a tidal wave of stupid being in that twitch chat. Honestly twitch isn't bad when you've got a handful of dedicated viewers. When it comes to large events and lots of viewers though, it's a nightmare.
It wouldn't hurt to have more dedicated moderators.Mr Color wrote:
Please don't look at twitch chat, look at the gameplay instead
Mr Color wrote:
Please don't look at twitch chat, look at the gameplay instead
That's pretty freaking impossible when the commentators go afk forever or don't talk, not to mention the 5+ min pauses between each map being played. Are we supposed to silently look at the pulsating osu logo for that time or try to conversate/read a pile of what seems to be never ending interesting opinions (but is mostly shit)?
No, I think measures need to be taken against this sewage dump of a chat.
I moderate a few streams on twitch, and after a period of aggressive modding twitch chat usually starts being mediocre instead of shit. Get more mods, preferably also some that understand Chinese/Korean/whatever languages that usually get spoken there so that offensive stuff in those languages can get a timeout/ban too.
get mods that aren't afraid to tell people they're being retards (Of course not in an offensive manner) instead of just silently sitting there and banning everything. Having them be visible in chat usually helps a bit.
List some basic chat rules in the stream description so mods can easily refer to them when swinging the banhammer.
No amount of modding will make it a good chat when there's 3k+ viewers, but it can make it less shit.
get mods that aren't afraid to tell people they're being retards (Of course not in an offensive manner) instead of just silently sitting there and banning everything. Having them be visible in chat usually helps a bit.
List some basic chat rules in the stream description so mods can easily refer to them when swinging the banhammer.
No amount of modding will make it a good chat when there's 3k+ viewers, but it can make it less shit.
Nothing new here, preteens will continue to act like preteens and grown-up bigots will continue to act like bigots. It's not really the website that is at fault, its the trolls themselves and their lack of manners/maturity/education/sanity/loving parents. Animosity shields you from any kind of repercussion, and some people will only behave with such threat of punishment in place. This is why Youtube keeps asking it's users to use their real name.peppy wrote:
Is it me or has twitch trained people to talk shit in chat 24/7? There's no hope on that site. I think it has something to do with the emotes and hopeless moderation system.
I think a combination of Facebook linking, slow down and active moderation should do the trick.
Don't even pay attention to the twitch chat it's full of cancer and meme spouting kids.
I also think that it'd be a good idea to get more dedicated moderators and reinforce rules more aggressively. Although it won't get rid of all of the problems, it will make the chat a better (or at least more tolerable) place.
The problem is that if you ban all the bad words, people will find words to use in place of that. It would almost be better to not have chat in the first place.
I don't even want to deal with a bunch of little a-holes (Excuse my language) eating Doritos and playing Call of Duty, so I generally avoid the chat anyways. The breaking point for me with it was when Cookiezi went online during one of the matches and everybody was freaking out in the comment box and everybody left to go watch him play.
I don't even want to deal with a bunch of little a-holes (Excuse my language) eating Doritos and playing Call of Duty, so I generally avoid the chat anyways. The breaking point for me with it was when Cookiezi went online during one of the matches and everybody was freaking out in the comment box and everybody left to go watch him play.
I just hide the chat section when I'm watching something on twitch. I like the nice big screen, and seeing all the hateful speech just puts me off. So, until it is more heavily monitored, I am content with watching it full screen. Especially when there are so few matches remaining (for this portion of the World Cup, since Taiko will be starting up in the next two months).
Generally, a 2 (or more) minute slowmode will help reduce the spam and make the chat more readable. When it's easier to read, it will be easier for the moderators to ban all the retards.
slowdowns are no use in a channel with over 5k viewers (almost 8k peak during quarter finals, imagine finals), you should just instantly ban everybody that cancers in there
that's kind of a rare case though. he's the best, most popular player in the game and he already didnt play much anymore. so him getting on was a big deal, and most people watching OWC weren't vested in it, just something to throw your spare time at.Me168 wrote:
The problem is that if you ban all the bad words, people will find words to use in place of that. It would almost be better to not have chat in the first place.
I don't even want to deal with a bunch of little a-holes (Excuse my language) eating Doritos and playing Call of Duty, so I generally avoid the chat anyways. The breaking point for me with it was when Cookiezi went online during one of the matches and everybody was freaking out in the comment box and everybody left to go watch him play.