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peppy
The funny part is how HARD it should be for a disconnect to occur. Bancho now allows packet loss, connection dropping, and ping times of up to 60s. OWC is running on a special server which has 10Gbit connectivity running on AWS' redundant network. In theory it should be impossible.

I'd love to look into how these disconnects happened. Quite likely something completely out of my control, but I'd still like to see if I can make it a non-issue in the future.
Weed
Kind of saddening China just took the win like that but they definitely had the right to.
Zeraph

peppy wrote:

I'd love to look into how these disconnects happened.
>losing
>leave game
>profit
ryza

Zeraphlol wrote:

peppy wrote:

I'd love to look into how these disconnects happened.
>losing
>leave game
>profit
Because I would totally want to

#1. be a shitter and leave in the first place

#2. leave when we don't have available retries

please. think a little bit.
Zeraph
not saying that you left cause i know you didn't at least from what i was told l0l pls calm down.
pooptartsonas
That was a really frustrating series to watch/play in. It's not like I'm super obsessed with winning it, but that's just a really unfulfilling way to lose.
JappyBabes

darkmiz wrote:

hoping for a rematch
I, too, would like to see China win again.
dingdinglhz

There wrote:

SPOILER
23:08 BanchoBot: Match history available (here)[http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/2805329].
23:08 Kaoru: sorry for all the delays
23:08 Kaoru: we are red with slots 5678
23:08 Furudo_Erika: 别死就行
23:08 pielak213: didnt everybody dc
23:08 pielak213: what's going to happen
23:08 Kaoru: my actual internet went down
23:08 p3n: re-starting because of technical issues
23:08 Kaoru: score submission requiring too many packets or something
23:09 Thatgooey: my keyboard stopped working midway through =/
23:09 Thatgooey: client stopped registering key clicks for like 4-5 seconds
23:09 Furudo_Erika: sigh
23:09 Kaoru: internet op
23:12 GunS_N_Rose: :3
23:12 GunS_N_Rose: we won
23:12 Kaoru: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1107390
23:12 Thatgooey: gg ^^
23:12 Kaoru: gg
23:12 GunS_N_Rose: GG
23:12 GGBY: 艹哥把
23:12 Thatgooey: off i go, hr pros XD
23:12 p3n: China 3 : 1 USA
23:12 GGBY: 房主给对é¢
23:12 GunS_N_Rose: XD
23:13 Kyou-kun: how is it 3-1?
23:13 Kaoru: wait
23:13 p3n: wait
23:13 Kaoru: we won justice breaker
23:13 Kaoru: and remote control
23:13 Kyou-kun: ???
23:13 Kyou-kun: ya
23:13 p3n: checking script
23:14 Kyou-kun: it's 2-2 p sure
23:14 GunS_N_Rose: \o\
23:14 p3n: China 2 : 2 USA
23:14 GunS_N_Rose: /o/
23:14 GGBY: \o\
23:15 GunS_N_Rose: 我拉硬喇å­
23:15 GunS_N_Rose: èåœå•Š
23:15 GunS_N_Rose: caryyå•Š
23:15 p3n: sorry for the confusion
23:15 GunS_N_Rose: 大腿é ä½ äº†
23:15 InabaTewi: 我çªç„¶å‘现我真是è€è°‹æ·±ç®—
23:15 Kyou-kun: gj 3v4
23:15 GGBY: 大腿é ä½ äº†
23:15 GunS_N_Rose: 233
23:15 p3n: next map?
23:15 *Kyou-kun is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/196673 Rohi - Kodoku Egoism]
23:16 Kaoru: pie
23:16 Kaoru: ready please
23:19 GunS_N_Rose: cao
23:19 GunS_N_Rose: 傻逼断
23:19 GunS_N_Rose: 玛德
23:20 GunS_N_Rose: we won :3
23:20 Kaoru: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1107405
23:20 GunS_N_Rose: wait
23:20 p3n: waiting...
23:21 p3n: any opposing screenshots?
23:21 GunS_N_Rose: yes wait upload
23:21 SapphireGhost: http://puu.sh/5kNZF.png Silynn posted this
23:21 GunS_N_Rose: è‰
23:21 GunS_N_Rose: æˆ‘è¿™æ€Žä¹ˆä¸Šä¼ ä¸äº†
23:21 p3n: yes that happens with player drops
23:21 p3n: that is why I need ingame screenshots ;)
23:21 SapphireGhost: Ah
23:21 InabaTewi: wait
23:21 SapphireGhost: Silynn's fault then
23:22 InabaTewi: ä½ å‘给我
23:22 InabaTewi: QQå‘给我
23:22 Kyou-kun: china won lol
23:22 InabaTewi: 我接å—一下
23:22 GunS_N_Rose: 好
23:22 Kaoru: china won
23:22 Kyou-kun: 3-2 china's favor w
23:22 Kaoru: no need to redo
23:22 p3n: from the score screen is looked like china won
23:22 p3n: okay
23:22 GunS_N_Rose: ok
23:22 GunS_N_Rose: 那就
23:22 p3n: China 3 : 2 USA
23:22 wobeinimacao: ggby
23:22 InabaTewi: å•Š- -
23:22 InabaTewi: 那我关QQ了
23:23 GGBY: 开啥图
23:23 wobeinimacao: GGBY
23:23 InabaTewi: 玛德刚æ‰æ‰‹è´±äº†ç§»å¿«äº†
23:23 wobeinimacao: 给我
23:23 wobeinimacao: è¿™ä¸ªä½ ä»¬å¦‚ä½•
23:23 GunS_N_Rose: >>>
23:23 GunS_N_Rose: buxing
23:23 wobeinimacao: ..
23:23 InabaTewi: 还行
23:23 InabaTewi: ä¸è¡Œä½ 妈逼啊都SS了
23:24 GunS_N_Rose: bï½
23:24 InabaTewi: 还ä¸è¡Œä¹ˆ
23:24 GunS_N_Rose: hr hï½ï½‰ï½˜ï½‰ï½Žï½‡
23:24 SapphireGhost: freemod?
23:24 InabaTewi: 艹哥开free mod
23:24 wobeinimacao: sorry
23:24 GGBY: 这行å—?
23:24 GunS_N_Rose: å正我ä¸ç¨³
23:24 InabaTewi: 行的
23:24 SapphireGhost: SD is instinctive
23:24 GunS_N_Rose: 上呗 管他的
23:24 GunS_N_Rose: 大腿é ä½ ä»¬äº†
23:24 GunS_N_Rose: å›
23:24 Kyou-kun: lol sd on this tournament
23:25 Kaoru: me for floks
23:25 Kaoru: actually
23:25 p3n: okay
23:25 Kaoru: kyou swapping for floks
23:26 GunS_N_Rose: :p
23:26 GunS_N_Rose: good luck
23:29 GunS_N_Rose: 打一局掉一局 什么鸟蛋。。。
23:29 p3n: ;_;
23:29 wobeinimacao: f12?
23:29 SapphireGhost: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1107418
23:29 GunS_N_Rose: jietu le
23:29 GunS_N_Rose: http://puu.sh/5kOjp.png
23:29 GunS_N_Rose: :3
23:29 Kaoru: my net is being really dumb
23:30 wobeinimacao: ä½ ä¸æŽ‰å°±è¡Œ
23:30 Kaoru: it only dcs on score submission
23:30 GunS_N_Rose: 我就是负责截图的。。
23:30 GunS_N_Rose: orz
23:30 p3n: Kaoru dced right in the beginning
23:30 p3n: from what I can tell
23:30 Kaoru: i dont think my net is going to be consistent
23:30 Kaoru: and we're out of redos
23:30 Kaoru: i can play but if it dcs again it will just stall the tourney
23:30 p3n: China: do you want to re-start this map or take the screenshot win? (Since when is it okay to let a judge let a country do the judging)
23:31 wobeinimacao: 肉ä¸
23:31 wobeinimacao: 说è¯å•Š
23:31 GunS_N_Rose: we win
23:31 GunS_N_Rose: please
23:31 GGBY: 问咱
23:31 GunS_N_Rose: :3
23:31 GGBY: 是用截图赢还是
23:31 GGBY: å†æ¯”一场
23:31 GGBY: 其实我有些想
23:31 Kaoru: waiting on whatever is decided
23:31 GGBY: 还一下
23:31 wobeinimacao: 赢就赢了
23:31 p3n: China 4 : 2 USA http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1107418
23:31 Kaoru: ok
23:31 GunS_N_Rose: 本æ¥å°±æ˜¯èµ¢
23:32 GunS_N_Rose: 他们也有人掉了
23:32 InabaTewi: 我FC的了
23:32 wobeinimacao: 差了两åƒä¸‡
23:32 GunS_N_Rose: å›
23:32 InabaTewi: 他们掉了ä¸èƒ½é‡èµ›çš„了
23:32 wobeinimacao: 大比分的图ä¸å¯èƒ½è¾“
23:32 InabaTewi: å·²ç»ç”¨æŽ‰ä¸¤æ¬¡äº†å§
23:32 GunS_N_Rose: æ©
23:32 InabaTewi: 我FC了爷爷._.é€æˆ‘一个大腿å§
23:32 GunS_N_Rose: 我们还有一次
23:32 GunS_N_Rose: ä½ å¦ˆæˆ‘ä»Šå¤©æ–­äº†ä¸¤æ¬¡å‚»é€¼æ–­
23:32 Kaoru: how did that result in a win
23:32 Kaoru: with the dc?
23:32 GGBY: 我æ¯å¼ 都傻逼断
23:33 GunS_N_Rose: 是那ç§æ…¢é€Ÿçš„
23:33 InabaTewi: ä½ çœ‹çœ‹ä½
23:33 GGBY: ä½ æ‰ä¸¤æ¬¡
23:33 GunS_N_Rose: 特别傻的断
23:33 InabaTewi: 我都FCå‡ å¼ äº†
23:33 p3n: depending on when the DC happens
23:33 GunS_N_Rose: orz
23:33 Kaoru: i dont care either way
23:33 GGBY: å–‡å­å¤§è…¿è®ƒ
23:33 p3n: if it is during score submission it will not show up on the mp link
23:33 p3n: only ingame
23:33 GunS_N_Rose: 拉å§å¤§è…¿
23:33 Kaoru: so it counts as a win?
Why it is not in Unicode?! All Chinese characters are messed up...
pielak213
^he got it from my /savelog which i puushed and puush doesn't handle chinese characters well

i would've really liked a properly played out match but our remote control win was cheesy so i can understand why they wanted two of their wins to be by default
Floks
I just now noticed this line added to the rules in the OWC wiki:

In Knock-Out Stage, selecting out of FreeMod bracket is unlimited.

This line was added after the tournament is underway on November 10th. Seems like after the tournament starts is a poor time to start changing the rules. I didn't know we were expected to know the rules AND check for random changes every week.
Gangsterkill
GG Netherlands, it was fun while it lasted ;-;
Oinari-sama
Japan 5:1 Netherlands

http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/2811659
Synchrostar
at least we got a point~

finally i can relax now
WolferZ_old
r.i.p. BR
Oinari-sama
fabriciorby
thank you taiwannnnnnnnnnnssssssssss i lov youuuuuuu
JappyBabes

Floks wrote:

I just now noticed this line added to the rules in the OWC wiki:

In Knock-Out Stage, selecting out of FreeMod bracket is unlimited.

This line was added after the tournament is underway on November 10th. Seems like after the tournament starts is a poor time to start changing the rules. I didn't know we were expected to know the rules AND check for random changes every week.

Blame your captain for not telling you, not the management.
Ohrami

JappyBabes wrote:

darkmiz wrote:

hoping for a rematch
I, too, would like to see China win again.
China wouldn't win if we rematched lol
Ibuki Suika
so awesome game france :)

goodjob poland :D
Noob Man
close enough !
rzkadi
poland vs france is an absolutely thrilling match!

ggwp both teams :)
-Ryosuke
France vs Poland

4-5

http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/2817324

awesome match, good game Poland!
Fahe
Amazing match from both the polish and the french side, well played guys !
Rori Vidi Veni
I think France should be high-seeded next year.
rEdo
Paris conquered.

gg wp France, I believe that was the best match in this whole tournament so far :D
Camellia-
Well played france <3 <3 <3
Closest match ever. Wow.
Ciunek
The tiebreak on stream probably got several people a heart attack...
Lunavista
That was a brilliant match, and very close! Great job to both teams!
Varetyr

Well played guys, I think everyone enjoyed watching this match, really.
Arrival
Really well played Poland !

Fantastic game, one of the best in this owc.

Hope a rematch in the owc, good luck for the rest of the tournament !
chichigi
Best match ever.. it's very intense. Well aside from tie-breaker, both party did well catching up to each other and it's fun to watch.
It's rare seeing two great country play in same round in knockout stage
Shockwave
Amazing match, really well played.
AmaiHachimitsu





France is fkin OP






I feel like shit
deadbeat
really good match guys. really impressed. and sorry about the commentating. being awake for 21 hours doesn't help :p
Yarissa
Sorry for such a delayed response. To China: despite the disconnects on both ends it was a very good game.

Regarding the disconnects: Since we had a finite amount of retries and internet problems were consistent on both ends, I find it disappointing our team lost in the way it did. I think in the right circumstances (with a proper rematch) the game would have at least been a lot closer. I don't expect that to happen nor do I want to impose upon anyone by asking for it. I'm just wondering why the match wasn't postponed from the get-go.
fabbbyyy v2
Austria 5:0 Latvia

http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/2820030

rip latvia
rEdo

enmyuuuU wrote:

Best match ever.. it's very intense. Well aside from tie-breaker, both party did well catching up to each other and it's fun to watch.
It's rare seeing two great country play in same round in knockout stage
actually it's not quite true. WWW had a score of 64m, while we won with an advantage of 63.5m, so it's not really like he won on his own :')

let me repeat myself - wp France ^_^
AmaiHachimitsu
Just some things that should be fixed

Stream - Sound is off-synch very often, it pains to watch the stream. I also think that hitsounds are a bit too loud.
The client for streaming - I don't think it's good when every fast reverse slider is considered a miss (and it looks like that in the stream)




Also, I have totally no idea what caused it, but me and farto and maybe more players have been experiencing some strange misses, i.e. I could clearly see that I hovered over the circle and clicked it, yet suddenly I saw a cross indicating a miss. It could be that we were nervous or our PCs slow or w/e, but I could "feel" that something is odd. I'd like some feedback if any of you players had some issues like that. Maybe we just suck

#edit: Also, maps please T.T
Synchrostar

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

Maybe we just suck
everyone sucks

well at least next year i'll hopefully be able to stream better, owc was fun while it lasted
Omgforz
Seems to be a recurring phenomenon. Alumetorz and WhitephoenixLP seemed to have the same problem.
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