Guys, if you think the new mappool is bad... you're probably right, but this is because we had one day only to do it, besides I don't have my computer with all my maps so I had to look for some nice ones mostly on osu!tp site to finish the pool yesterday by myself, so I'm sorry for it but I hope you all can enjoy it anyways.
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This is next matches table from Loctav http://puu.sh/550tg/5544f95a73.jpg
I requesting to change this - 1st place from group with 1st place from other group, not 1st with 2nd!!!!
I think it will make next owc round more interesting and competive.
What do you think about it?
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I requesting to change this - 1st place from group with 1st place from other group, not 1st with 2nd!!!!
I think it will make next owc round more interesting and competive.
What do you think about it?
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the NoMod picks are okay.
My only worry would be Paradise Ghost which seems way harder than most of the other maps
Raijuka - Grim is ridiculously easy, and Hidden doesn't change anything about that
Also it's beyond me why you would put Deep Sea in Freemod Bracket when it obviously should be a Hidden map. Now everyone can just HR it, so it becomes pretty easy...
My only worry would be Paradise Ghost which seems way harder than most of the other maps
Raijuka - Grim is ridiculously easy, and Hidden doesn't change anything about that
Also it's beyond me why you would put Deep Sea in Freemod Bracket when it obviously should be a Hidden map. Now everyone can just HR it, so it becomes pretty easy...
1st vs. 2nd is far more interesting, it will let the 'better' countries advance further.cr1m wrote:
This is next matches table from Loctav http://puu.sh/550tg/5544f95a73.jpg
I requesting to change this - 1st place from group with 1st place from other group, not 1st with 2nd!!!!
I think it will make next owc round more interesting and competive.
What do you think about it?
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It would be really funny if some bad team gets to a very high position because all top teams face each other that early lol.
1st vs. 2nd is far more interesting, it will let the 'better' countries advance further.Nothing interesting - almost all 1sts will go next round.
Btw Japan vs Thailand looks more interesting then Japan vs Netherlands (look this table)
If 1st vs. 2nd - I can predict almost all results =/ no challenge at all next round...
Actually I didn't have enough time to check all the maps on the pool so maybe you're right (Most maps were added yesterday) but most picks aren't mine, so that's why you could maybe see a weird difficulty variety on the pool, but as I said before, we were really rushed to finish this, and the pool was supposed to be released around 22 hs UTC, but oh well.Zarerion wrote:
the NoMod picks are okay.
My only worry would be Paradise Ghost which seems way harder than most of the other maps
Raijuka - Grim is ridiculously easy, and Hidden doesn't change anything about that
Also it's beyond me why you would put Deep Sea in Freemod Bracket when it obviously should be a Hidden map. Now everyone can just HR it, so it becomes pretty easy...
Let's say Wishy was available for the first pool only, then if I wanted to start with the next one I had to do it for myself only and didn't want to. We got another picker a bit late and then Loctav told us to finish the pool in 24 hours, so as you can see we didn't have enough time for it.PortalLife wrote:
You should of started work on it when the groups started.
Yea, but what do you think will happen NEXT round? Japan and Thailand will meet later. Meeting further on = more stress = harder maps = better match. That's why 1st vs. 2nd is far better.cr1m wrote:
1st vs. 2nd is far more interesting, it will let the 'better' countries advance further.Nothing interesting - almost all 1sts will go next round.
Btw Japan vs Thailand looks more interesting then Japan vs Netherlands (look this table)
If 1st vs. 2nd - I can predict almost all results =/ no challenge at all next round...
You tell the truth, so the best way - to RANDOMIZE pairs?GladiOol wrote:
Yea, but what do you think will happen NEXT round? Japan and Thailand will meet later. Meeting further on = more stress = harder maps = better match. That's why 1st vs. 2nd is far better.
japan vs netherlandscr1m wrote:
1st vs. 2nd is far more interesting, it will let the 'better' countries advance further.Nothing interesting - almost all 1sts will go next round.
Btw Japan vs Thailand looks more interesting then Japan vs Netherlands (look this table)
If 1st vs. 2nd - I can predict almost all results =/ no challenge at all next round...
gg i dont even want to play this
why not 1st from group a vs 2nd from group b, 2nd from A vs 1st from B and so on ):
or just drawings just like in group stages but with 1st place and 2nd place pool
It's better to keep the best for last : - )cr1m wrote:
You tell the truth, so the best way - to RANDOMIZE pairs?GladiOol wrote:
Yea, but what do you think will happen NEXT round? Japan and Thailand will meet later. Meeting further on = more stress = harder maps = better match. That's why 1st vs. 2nd is far better.
cr1m wrote:
This is next matches table from Loctav http://puu.sh/550tg/5544f95a73.jpg
I requesting to change this - 1st place from group with 1st place from other group, not 1st with 2nd!!!!
I think it will make next owc round more interesting and competive.
What do you think about it?
to admins: please don't delete this post.
So what's the point in winning your group then? The prize you get for having played well and won your group is to match up with the second placed teams. If you come in second place you did not win it all, hence you're not the best team. They get a second chance to redeem themselves by playing against harder opponents.
If not, people will aim for #2 in the group to get easier opponents...
That is my opinion.
pretty much thisGladiOol wrote:
1st vs. 2nd is far better.
Also there are maps that look too early to be in this stage.
Rohi - Kodoku Egoism (NatsumeRin) [Rin]
Memme - BSPower Explosion (AngelHoney) [Another]
Compared to the rest, they are way too harder , obviously harder and far from the rest.
Nice pick for the Freemod though.
japan vs netherlandseach 2nd place team capitan will answer like this
gg i dont even want to play this
why not 1st from group a vs 2nd from group b, 2nd from A vs 1st from B and so on ):
or just drawings just like in group stages but with 1st place and 2nd place pool
Jesus, cr1m. Your suggestion is so bad, lmao.
It's already randomized because of the first drawing - A1 vs H2 and so on seems ok as it was in the previous OWC, I don't see why would it change here. Seems like you just want to play against easier opponents to me.
Comments on the maps:
Doku Ryuu no Kobura as Hidden. Jesus fucking christ. Even cptnXn, a Flashlight player commented on it. Seriously, the map not only requires memorizing, but also can't be FC'd with Hidden without going into the editor to see what is actually there, randomly put under some slider. I requested a replacement for this pick, but my suggestion was obviously ignored (using light terminology for what happened).
Deep Sea on LC diff. The Insane diff is far better than it. LC diff feels overmapped and not really that good. I got confirmed that it only made it there because it's AR8. Ridiculous again.
Grim would make a nice freemod (perhaps instead of Deep Sea for example).
The rest of maps seem fine, I love DTs especially. Good job on that part.
It's already randomized because of the first drawing - A1 vs H2 and so on seems ok as it was in the previous OWC, I don't see why would it change here. Seems like you just want to play against easier opponents to me.
Comments on the maps:
Doku Ryuu no Kobura as Hidden. Jesus fucking christ. Even cptnXn, a Flashlight player commented on it. Seriously, the map not only requires memorizing, but also can't be FC'd with Hidden without going into the editor to see what is actually there, randomly put under some slider. I requested a replacement for this pick, but my suggestion was obviously ignored (using light terminology for what happened).
Deep Sea on LC diff. The Insane diff is far better than it. LC diff feels overmapped and not really that good. I got confirmed that it only made it there because it's AR8. Ridiculous again.
Grim would make a nice freemod (perhaps instead of Deep Sea for example).
The rest of maps seem fine, I love DTs especially. Good job on that part.
This is next matches table from Loctav http://puu.sh/550tg/5544f95a73.jpgWith all the respect, this is the stupidest idea here so far. I know it would be KIND of interesting to see some theoretically weaker teams in further stages, but the tournament is all about the best ones, right? It would be unfair if e.g. Japan didn't make it to top 8 because they had to fight Korea in 1/16 but France did win with Russia. This is all implying that Japan is far better than France and Russia.
I requesting to change this - 1st place from group with 1st place from other group, not 1st with 2nd!!!!
I think it will make next owc round more interesting and competive.
What do you think about it?
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Since the mappool isn't as hard as it will be later, you can now try and fight your opponents. Nobody is gonna appreciate making it to top 8 via easy method.
Rohi - Kodoku Egoism (NatsumeRin) [Rin]I think you meant some other map.
i'd rather play against US or UK or even Germany than having my ass whooped by japan lulzcr1m wrote:
japan vs netherlandseach 2nd place team capitan will answer like this
gg i dont even want to play this
why not 1st from group a vs 2nd from group b, 2nd from A vs 1st from B and so on ):
or just drawings just like in group stages but with 1st place and 2nd place pool
oh well i'm glad we even made it out of group stage
Jesus christ i played ONE MAP with Flashlight in my entire life. PLEASEfartownik wrote:
Even cptnXn, a Flashlight player
Btw, I don't see why the maps from the pool can't be changed after receiving feedback. If you do it quickly enough it's no big deal.
Well, that makes you a good Flashlight player XDcptnXn wrote:
Jesus christ i played ONE MAP with Flashlight in my entire life. PLEASEfartownik wrote:
Even cptnXn, a Flashlight player
@farto: Don't wanna start a drama or useless discussion or anything, but let me just say that LC's Deep Sea is an amazing map and far better than anything anybody else could have mapped for the song.
Oh yeah, I would have liked Skystar diff for Kodoku Egoism but meh.
Oh yeah, I would have liked Skystar diff for Kodoku Egoism but meh.
you're not serious.Zarerion wrote:
Oh yeah, I would have liked Skystar diff for Kodoku Egoism but meh.
Does anyone know if we'll see the U.K match after the USA match?
lol these "tactical disconnects"
I am, it's more of a challenge, more interestingly mapped and more fun to me than Rin's diffPizzicato wrote:
you're not serious.Zarerion wrote:
Oh yeah, I would have liked Skystar diff for Kodoku Egoism but meh.
That disconnect...GG Italy and USA.
USA vs. Italy was so sad, like Kyou Kun. No respect.
GG Italy. I give you my sincere apologies on behalf of my team for any/ all drama and confusion. It was a very well played match and I'm surprised it was as close as it was.
Thanks for the match!
Thanks for the match!
kyou-kun playing dirty 
Great match, I can tell for sure it's my favourite one, even better than the one of the last year. I really loved it! I had some troubles commentating overall, but I've really enjoyed this. Great job!
Why are people still calling USA Italy an unfair match, Italy still won the song right?
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https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/2660446 UK 4:2 Canada.
God save the queen.
God save the queen.
She's our queen too...B-52 wrote:
God save the queen.
Low seeded ?
GG Canada, fellow queen lover.
God save the queen.
God save the queen.