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Amuro vs Killer - Mei [Taiko]

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Dainesl
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 06 August 2017 at 19:08:08

Artist: Amuro vs Killer
Title: Mei
Source: beatmania IIDX 12 HAPPY SKY
Tags: cheesiest 2DX 12th style human sequencer tatsh dj taka
BPM: 200
Filesize: 3226kb
Play Time: 02:05
Difficulties Available:
  1. cheesiest's Inner Oni (5.12 stars, 799 notes)
  2. Futsuu (2.04 stars, 260 notes)
  3. Kantan (1.34 stars, 147 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (3.26 stars, 488 notes)
  5. Oni (4.14 stars, 666 notes)
Download: Amuro vs Killer - Mei
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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WE'RE BACK BOYS!!!

Revived 5th August 2017, let's see what I can do with this.

I've changed 4 major parts of this map:

1. changed SV and OD/HP settings.
2. changed source to the specific game (even though the official website below says IIDX12 I'm writing it as IIDX 12 is that ok?)
3. remapped diffs to be way more consistent and high quality than before (could still be bad w)
4. altered some timing points in terms of volume and barlines

http://www.konami.jp/am/bm2dx/bm2dx12/
Tuxxy_old
Timing sections seem absolutely fine.
Not much to say about the map itself, although it could do with a bit of lightening up, similair to something like this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/14243 but more simple \^o^/
So as you don't get lost whilst editing, it could be a good idea to split the notes into sections. I don't see this in many taiko maps, but it could be useful :)
xWillx
General:
- Inconsistency with Song Setup Options (All diffs have wide screen support checked while Kantan does not)

Kantan
00:12:637 (9) - k (to accompany the clap sound in the background
00:15:037 (11) - ^
00:15:937 (12) - d (flows better)
00:17:437 (13) - k (to accompany the clap sound in the background
00:29:737 (28,29) - k k (you used d d k on the previous parts e.g. 00:23:767) so i think you should follow the pattern)
00:30:937 (31) - d
00:34:537 (34) - blue, wut? (change to d!)
00:38:167 (38) ^
00:57:337 (65) change to k
01:21:589 (11,13) - change to blye (consistent big reds seems boring)
01:38:585 (41) - change to d
01:39:785 (42) - k maybe (the pitch falls at 1:40:985)
01:43:385 (47,48) - k (pitch goes higher)
01:44:585 (49) - d
01:45:185 (51) - red, wut? (pitch clearly goes higher) -change to k
02:03:383 (70) - change to d (pitch falls and increases at the last spinner)

Futsuu
00:03:037 (3) - change to k (sounds better)
00:14:587 (15) - change to d (fit other patterns, i don't think dkd fits here)
00:15:037 (16) - change to k ^
00:16:987 (18) - change to k
00:45:337 (62) - change to k
00:51:337 (70) - change to k
01:22:255 (101,102) - change to k (add variation, all dons are boring)


Muzukashii
00:03:487 (4) - change to k (Same as the other patterns)
00:17:887 (29) - ^
00:24:937 (44) - ^
00:25:837 (46) - change to d
00:34:537 (69) - change to k (to match the echo sound)
01:09:337 (149, 151) - change to K to match the claps
01:28:685 - change to k
01:39:785 (231) - change to d
01:40:385 (235) - change to k

Might mod Oni and Inner oni if i don't get lazy.
Topic Starter
Dainesl
Yay, a mod!

xWillx wrote:

General:
- Inconsistency with Song Setup Options (All diffs have wide screen support checked while Kantan does not) Okay, fixed

Kantan
00:12:637 (9) - k (to accompany the clap sound in the background Ok
00:15:037 (11) - ^ Ok
00:15:937 (12) - d (flows better) Ok
00:17:437 (13) - k (to accompany the clap sound in the background ok
00:29:737 (28,29) - k k (you used d d k on the previous parts e.g. 00:23:767) so i think you should follow the pattern) No, because I want to keep the consistency with the music.
00:30:937 (31) - d Same reason as before
00:34:537 (34) - blue, wut? (change to d!) Ok
00:38:167 (38) ^ Ok
00:57:337 (65) change to k Ok
01:21:589 (11,13) - change to blye (consistent big reds seems boring) I decided to change 01:21:589 (11,12) - instead. (blye, lel)
01:38:585 (41) - change to d Ok
01:39:785 (42) - k maybe (the pitch falls at 1:40:985) Ok
01:43:385 (47,48) - k (pitch goes higher) Changed that and the note after
01:44:585 (49) - d No, the pitch is still high
01:45:185 (51) - red, wut? (pitch clearly goes higher) -change to k Ok
02:03:383 (70) - change to d (pitch falls and increases at the last spinner) Ok

Futsuu
00:03:037 (3) - change to k (sounds better) Ok
00:14:587 (15) - change to d (fit other patterns, i don't think dkd fits here) I think it fits quite well
00:15:037 (16) - change to k ^ Ok
00:16:987 (18) - change to k Ok
00:45:337 (62) - change to k 00:45:337 (62,63) - Changed both of these to k
00:51:337 (70) - change to k Ok
01:22:255 (101,102) - change to k (add variation, all dons are boring) Changed this and the note before it to k


Muzukashii
00:03:487 (4) - change to k (Same as the other patterns) Ok
00:17:887 (29) - ^ Ok
00:24:937 (44) - ^ Ok
00:25:837 (46) - change to d Nah, I think k fits better here.
00:34:537 (69) - change to k (to match the echo sound) Ok
01:09:337 (149, 151) - change to K to match the claps Changed this and 01:11:518 (151) -
01:28:685 - change to k Ok
01:39:785 (231) - change to d No, because there's a high-pitched sound there.
01:40:385 (235) - change to k Ok

Might mod Oni and Inner oni if i don't get lazy.
Thanks for the mod :D
Krah
Combo breaker of Uk's posts '-'

Mod by request.


[General]

- The spread is probably not really good. Specially between the muzu and the oni.
In the muzu you have only 1/2 and no 1/4 triplets but in the oni you have a lot of bicolor 1/4.
You probably need to add a few number of easy triplets in your muzu.
- You can remove all the tags beause it's already source / creator / title. Just keep cheesiest.

[Kantan]

- 00:36:337 (36) - k ?
- 01:26:585 (20) - d
- 01:35:885 (38) - k ? This note is more like 39.


[Futsuu]

- 00:18:937 - Add a k
- 00:28:537 (33) - - k
- 00:30:937 (36) - ^
- 00:35:737 (45) - ^
- 01:06:937 - Add a d.
- 01:46:985 (153) - k


[Muzukashii]

- 00:04:537 (5,6,7) - This pattern is really strange and doesn't fit the rythm of the song.
- 00:10:237 (14) - k
- 00:31:837 - Add a d
- 00:33:037 - ^
- 00:49:837 (116) - k ?
- 00:54:937 (129) - ^


[Oni]

- 00:10:687 (29) - k
- 00:42:187 - Add a d ?
- 00:45:562 - Add a k
- 01:20:707 (419,420,421,422,423) - Serioulsy all the previous part is fuching good but this one break all :s Consider to adding some notes in this combo ?


And I can't mod the inner, serioulsy it's impossible for me xD

Good map =)
Take my star
Topic Starter
Dainesl
Another mod!

Krah wrote:

Combo breaker of Uk's posts '-' how dare you

Mod by request.


[General]

- The spread is probably not really good. Specially between the muzu and the oni.
In the muzu you have only 1/2 and no 1/4 triplets but in the oni you have a lot of bicolor 1/4.
You probably need to add a few number of easy triplets in your muzu. Alright.
- You can remove all the tags beause it's already source / creator / title. Just keep cheesiest. Sure

[Kantan]

- 00:36:337 (36) - k ? Ok
- 01:26:585 (20) - d This is already a d
- 01:35:885 (38) - k ? This note is more like 39. Decided to make 01:35:885 (38,39) - k and d respectively.


[Futsuu]

- 00:18:937 - Add a k made that a d, made 00:19:387 (21,22) - k
- 00:28:537 (33) - - k Sure
- 00:30:937 (36) - ^ I think d fits better 'cause of the sound
- 00:35:737 (45) - ^ Sure
- 01:06:937 - Add a d. Ok
- 01:46:985 (153) - k The decrease in pitch implies a d


[Muzukashii]

- 00:04:537 (5,6,7) - This pattern is really strange and doesn't fit the rythm of the song. Removed 6
- 00:10:237 (14) - k Ok
- 00:31:837 - Add a d Sure
- 00:33:037 - ^ ^
- 00:49:837 (116) - k ? I made the note before it a k.
- 00:54:937 (129) - ^ Sure

Also added some 1/4 triplets and other notes. Other changes were made to increase difficulty but I don't wanna list them all here.
[Oni]

- 00:10:687 (29) - k Alright
- 00:42:187 - Add a d ? ok
- 00:45:562 - Add a k I don't think it'd fit very well.
- 01:20:707 (419,420,421,422,423) - Serioulsy all the previous part is fuching good but this one break all :s Consider to adding some notes in this combo ? The music doesn't call for more notes here, so no.


And I can't mod the inner, serioulsy it's impossible for me xD

Good map =)
Take my star Thanks a lot :D
Alumetorz
[Futsuu]
  • 01:55:385 (171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178) - these 1/1s might be a bit too much, how about something like >this<
    02:02:883 - I'd just say map this note, but you probably have a reasong to not?
[Muzu]
  • 00:47:737 (120) - kat because of high pitch?
    01:33:785 (238,247) - You could somehow try to switch these two notes, so you got kat on first big white tick and don on second one for better pitch mapping, just like how you did at 01:38:585 (257,267). (yes this is kinda nazi, but I suck)
    01:55:985 (332,333,334,335,336,337,338) - here like in futsuu, I think it's a bit too much compared to the calm part, try removing some notes...
[Oni]
  • 00:38:887 - Add don?
    00:39:337 (188) - finish plox
    00:43:687 (216,217,218,219,220,221) - place some kats for variation? 00:44:137 (219,220) - these two for example
    00:48:037 (248,249,250,251) - Maybe try mapping to the blue ticks? It's an oni after all, I think it'd be okay...
    00:55:687 (291) - How about donning this, so 00:55:537 (290,292) - these two are more emphasized to music?
    00:56:287 (294) - ^
    00:56:737 (297) - kat, because pitch?
    01:06:937 (345) - maybe move note to 01:06:787?
    01:25:685 (450,451,452,453) - Better remove these notes. I think there's a higher tension without them. Also it's very overmapped xP
    01:48:785 (593) - kat, because pitch
    01:55:385 (621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631,632,633,634,635,636,637,638,639) - Just like low diffs, try to lower the note density for at least a little bit.
[Inner]
  • 00:44:737 (270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278) - try ddkkddkkd, because the pitch is changing and there would be some variation
    01:25:460 (543,544,545,546,547,548,549,550,551,552,553,554,555,556,557) - pls, just remove these. v_v It's overmapped and wtf
    01:28:985 (576) - don cause pitch?
    01:36:185 (639) - ^
    01:33:485 (605,606,607,608,609,610,611,612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631,632,633,634,635) - Try remapping this stream. It doesn't follow the music properly. Think of something better
Topic Starter
Dainesl

Alumetorz wrote:

[Futsuu]
  • 01:55:385 (171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178) - these 1/1s might be a bit too much, how about something like >this< Changed to this
    02:02:883 - I'd just say map this note, but you probably have a reasong to not? I didn't feel it had enough emphasis compared to other notes.


[Muzu]
  • 00:47:737 (120) - kat because of high pitch? Ok
    01:33:785 (238,247) - You could somehow try to switch these two notes, so you got kat on first big white tick and don on second one for better pitch mapping, just like how you did at 01:38:585 (257,267). (yes this is kinda nazi, but I suck) Sure
    01:55:985 (332,333,334,335,336,337,338) - here like in futsuu, I think it's a bit too much compared to the calm part, try removing some notes...changed tothis
[Oni]
  • 00:38:887 - Add don? It doesn't really fit, i think
    00:39:337 (188) - finish plox Ok
    00:43:687 (216,217,218,219,220,221) - place some kats for variation? 00:44:137 (219,220) - these two for example I made 216 and 217 kats
    00:48:037 (248,249,250,251) - Maybe try mapping to the blue ticks? It's an oni after all, I think it'd be okay... Okay, I made the notes between those like this
    00:55:687 (291) - How about donning this, so 00:55:537 (290,292) - these two are more emphasized to music? Ok
    00:56:287 (294) - ^ Ok
    00:56:737 (297) - kat, because pitch? But the music isn't emphasized enough here
    01:06:937 (345) - maybe move note to 01:06:787? Ok
    01:25:685 (450,451,452,453) - Better remove these notes. I think there's a higher tension without them. Also it's very overmapped xP I removed those~
    01:48:785 (593) - kat, because pitch I made 01:48:485 - be a kat instead.
    01:55:385 (621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631,632,633,634,635,636,637,638,639) - Just like low diffs, try to lower the note density for at least a little bit. I made it look likethis
[Inner]
  • 00:44:737 (270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278) - try ddkkddkkd, because the pitch is changing and there would be some variation
    01:25:460 (543,544,545,546,547,548,549,550,551,552,553,554,555,556,557) - pls, just remove these. v_v It's overmapped and wtf
    01:28:985 (576) - don cause pitch?
    01:36:185 (639) - ^
    01:33:485 (605,606,607,608,609,610,611,612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625,626,627,628,629,630,631,632,633,634,635) - Try remapping this stream. It doesn't follow the music properly. Think of something better
Cheesiest will need to do the response to the Inner Oni 'cause it's his diff.

Thanks for the mod :D
cheesiest

Alumetorz wrote:

mod
yes to all
http://puu.sh/4Jw4j.rar
whosthebox
Modding as requested ^w^

Kantan

This is okey for me >:D


Futsuu

00:19:387 (22,23) - k K sounds better
00:30:937 (38) - k sounds better
00:33:337 (43) - ^
00:39:337 (53) - finish
00:40:537 (56) - k?
00:44:737 (65) - k and add a d 00:45:037 - there, it sounds better
00:45:937 - add a d?
00:49:837 - add a k here, there is a clear beat here
00:59:437 - ^
00:59:737 (92) - finish
01:28:085 - add a d?
01:28:685 add a k?
01:31:985 (140) - k sounds better
01:35:885 - add a k here, there is a clear beat here
01:40:685 (158,159) - k d maybe?
01:43:685 (165) - k?
02:05:458 (1) - change this spinner to a k


Muzukashii

between 00:21:337 and 00:39:337 - there are a lot of empty spaces that have beats that can, and some must be filled with notes, try making the rhythm in this part more consistent, instead of remarking some specific parts

00:05:737 - remove this d and add a k 00:05:437 - here and another k 00:06:037 - here
00:21:337 (33) - finish
00:30:787 (63) - k
00:45:637 (113) - remove this one, too many notes in a row
01:02:137 (169) - k
01:37:835 - d
01:38:435 (285) - k
01:38:585 (286) - d
01:45:485 (316) - remove this one, a break here goes good, and this is not obligatory in muzu
01:48:185 (329,330,331,332,333,334,335) - change this to k d d k d d k, sounds better, and add a k 01:49:085 - here, sounds better too
01:50:435 - d
02:02:338 (376) - k
02:05:458 (1) - again the spinner, replace it with a k

I'll mod oni and inner oni later ;w; i see if i can finish them today, i have to do something
Topic Starter
Dainesl

whosthebox wrote:

Modding as requested ^w^

Kantan

This is okey for me >:D wheeee ;w;


Futsuu

00:19:387 (22,23) - k K sounds better okay
00:30:937 (38) - k sounds better
00:33:337 (43) - ^ yes to both
00:39:337 (53) - finish okay
00:40:537 (56) - k? changed this and the note after
00:44:737 (65) - k and add a d 00:45:037 - there, it sounds better added the circle, didn't change the note behind it to a k, so it's a kkddddk pattern
00:45:937 - add a d? ok
00:49:837 - add a k here, there is a clear beat here I added a d instead but made the previous note a k
00:59:437 - ^ ok
00:59:737 (92) - finish ok
01:28:085 - add a d? ok i guess
01:28:685 add a k? no because the pattern would be too long, this is a Futsuu.
01:31:985 (140) - k sounds better ok
01:35:885 - add a k here, there is a clear beat here ok
01:40:685 (158,159) - k d maybe? okay
01:43:685 (165) - k? okay, also changed note after it to k
02:05:458 (1) - change this spinner to a k nah, I want to emphasise the slow fading out of the song. Besides, it'd look awkward having a longer Kantan than Futsuu ;w;


Muzukashii

between 00:21:337 and 00:39:337 - there are a lot of empty spaces that have beats that can, and some must be filled with notes, try making the rhythm in this part more consistent, instead of remarking some specific parts Filled in most of the big gaps

00:05:737 - remove this d and add a k 00:05:437 - here and another k 00:06:037 - here Didn't remove the d, but added a k at 5,437ms
00:21:337 (33) - finish ok
00:30:787 (63) - k doesn't really fit imo...
00:45:637 (113) - remove this one, too many notes in a row ok
01:02:137 (169) - k ok
01:37:835 - d alright i guess
01:38:435 (285) - k ok
01:38:585 (286) - d ok
01:45:485 (316) - remove this one, a break here goes good, and this is not obligatory in muzu Okay, since it's the Kiai Time it would probably fit.
01:48:185 (329,330,331,332,333,334,335) - change this to k d d k d d k, sounds better, and add a k 01:49:085 - here, sounds better too I made it k d d d k d. I don't think the extra note fits particularly well in a Muzu...
01:50:435 - d sure
02:02:338 (376) - k ok
02:05:458 (1) - again the spinner, replace it with a k see last suggestion on Futsuu diff.

I'll mod oni and inner oni later ;w; i see if i can finish them today, i have to do something
Thank you ;w; if you're gonna mod the Oni+Inner, I can't KD both posts ;w;
whosthebox
finishing my mod :D sorry for taking so long TT^TT

Oni

00:11:437 - add a k, there is a clear beat here
between 00:12:637 and 00:13:837 - try adding one note to create another triplet, there are too many 1/2 beats
00:14:887 (52,53,54) - ddk sounds better
00:17:287 - add a d and make 00:17:437 (67) - this one a k, it sounds better
00:19:687 - add a d here
well, until 00:39:937 - there are a lot of empty spaces, and some parts have a lot of 1/2 beats without any 1/4 stream, pretty similar to things i already pointed before, try filling them and adding some more streams, oni is supposed to be harder.

00:49:837 (264) - this sounds a lot better as a k
00:49:987 - there is a clear beat here, fill it with a d
00:52:387 - ^
01:06:937 - d?
01:20:883 (424,425) - finish
add a triplet 01:40:235 - here, i suggest making 01:40:385 (548) - a k, a ddk triplet sounds great here
fill the space between 01:42:185 and 01:42:485 -
add a note 01:49:085 here and 01:49:235 - here


cheesiest's Inner Oni

i really like this one :D i couldn't find many things to change

00:19:837 (67,69,71) - these finishers don't fit here, the sound is fading here, and there's no need to remark the sound
00:55:537 (360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371) - change the last k of every triplet to a d
00:59:587 (397,398) - change this to k D
01:34:985 - add a note there
01:37:085 (619,620) - make this two d k, and the same 01:38:285 (626,627) - here and 01:39:485 (633,634) - here
01:40:985 (642) - d
01:45:785 (675,676,677,678,679,680,681,682,683,684) - add a d in the last note of each stream
01:49:235 - add a d here
Topic Starter
Dainesl

whosthebox wrote:

finishing my mod :D sorry for taking so long TT^TT no problem

Oni

00:11:437 - add a k, there is a clear beat here It'd be inconsistent having all the other patterns being 1 1/2 beats apart entirely, then this being 1 1/2 and then 1
between 00:12:637 and 00:13:837 - try adding one note to create another triplet, there are too many 1/2 beats ok
00:14:887 (52,53,54) - ddk sounds better okay
00:17:287 - add a d and make 00:17:437 (67) - this one a k, it sounds better ok
00:19:687 - add a d here sure
well, until 00:39:937 - there are a lot of empty spaces, and some parts have a lot of 1/2 beats without any 1/4 stream, pretty similar to things i already pointed before, try filling them and adding some more streams, oni is supposed to be harder. This is gonna be a long(er) explanation, okay? From 00:19:837 - until 00:21:337 - there is barely any sound to work with. From then on I filled in a few empty spaces and added a few more triplets.

00:49:837 (264) - this sounds a lot better as a k okay
00:49:987 - there is a clear beat here, fill it with a d ok
00:52:387 - ^ okay, but i made the note before it a k
01:06:937 - d? sure
01:20:883 (424,425) - finish ok
add a triplet 01:40:235 - here, i suggest making 01:40:385 (548) - a k, a ddk triplet sounds great here woooo yes
fill the space between 01:42:185 and 01:42:485 - i did this
add a note 01:49: 085 here and 01:49:235 - here only added note at 1:49:085


cheesiest's Inner Oni

i really like this one :D i couldn't find many things to change

00:19:837 (67,69,71) - these finishers don't fit here, the sound is fading here, and there's no need to remark the sound
00:55:537 (360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371) - change the last k of every triplet to a d
00:59:587 (397,398) - change this to k D
01:34:985 - add a note there
01:37:085 (619,620) - make this two d k, and the same 01:38:285 (626,627) - here and 01:39:485 (633,634) - here
01:40:985 (642) - d
01:45:785 (675,676,677,678,679,680,681,682,683,684) - add a d in the last note of each stream
01:49:235 - add a d here
Thanks again! :D
cheesiest

whosthebox wrote:

cheesiest's Inner Oni

i really like this one :D i couldn't find many things to change

00:19:837 (67,69,71) - these finishers don't fit here, the sound is fading here, and there's no need to remark the sound !!yes
00:55:537 (360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371) - change the last k of every triplet to a d kk i suppose so
00:59:587 (397,398) - change this to k D good idea
01:34:985 - add a note there nah i don't feel it fits ): sorry
01:37:085 (619,620) - make this two d k, and the same 01:38:285 (626,627) - here and 01:39:485 (633,634) - here i feel that d fits better
01:40:985 (642) - d k fits better, imo
01:45:785 (675,676,677,678,679,680,681,682,683,684) - add a d in the last note of each stream nah, i feel that's kinda over mapping and it's obvious that it's phrased as 5 1/4ths
01:49:235 - add a d here ok :3


http://puu.sh/50mgz.rar
Yuzeyun
lulz 2 free kd
dropping the mod before as the mapper hasn't answered yet so here we go.

[Kantan]
For some reason, the difficulty isn't constant from the beginning to the end. I noticed the end (after the 100 to 200 bpm acceleration) was a bit harder than the whole beginning.
00:14:137 - Add a don here, I have felt something went missing. It would also be consistent with 00:11:737 (9,10) - , since that's quite the same stuff all over again
00:16:537 - ^
00:18:337 - As it's within the exact same "pattern" in the music, why not add a don like in here : 00:11:737 (9,10,11) - ? It would feel less empty as well as ^.

00:28:537 (27,28,29,30,31,32) - This pattern sounds quite odd, to be honest.
00:35:737 (36,37,38) - Here, invert 36 and 37. These two kats - 00:30:937 (32,39) - are both located to a bar line, but not 36.
00:33:337 (34) - You may apply a k here, but this is only an option.
00:39:337 (40) - Big don here. You only have a crash so...
00:40:537 (41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49) - I think you would better make the whole part equally as dense, either piano-based or drum-based the density of each instrument stay constant.
00:54:937 (62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69) - Somewhat odd-sounding in terms of how you made it, I'd rather put 68 out (would make people have more time to understand how to hit that big note, I mean 600 ms.
00:59:737 (69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80) - This part; although only dons, should be toned down a bit. You made a sort of paradox as the acceleration is less dense at the beginning.

The whole kiai is, as I said, has a lot more denser patterns than the rest. For instance, that one. 01:26:585 (99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118) - It contains about 2/15 of the notes of the whole chart, condensed in 1/20 of the song. You might want to equalize more this, instead.

If you say this is long... well fml

wait for the rest
Topic Starter
Dainesl
Agh I'm late i'm late aghhhhhhh

very impatient, many anger thanks for finally doing this <3

_Gezo_ wrote:

lulz 2 free kd nope as I can't KD all five posts :3
dropping the mod before as the mapper hasn't answered yet so here we go.

[Kantan]
For some reason, the difficulty isn't constant from the beginning to the end. I noticed the end (after the 100 to 200 bpm acceleration) was a bit harder than the whole beginning. Does that mean I'd have to remap stuff? idk.
00:14:137 - Add a don here, I have felt something went missing. It would also be consistent with 00:11:737 (9,10) - , since that's quite the same stuff all over again Alright
00:16:537 - ^ ^
00:18:337 - As it's within the exact same "pattern" in the music, why not add a don like in here : 00:11:737 (9,10,11) - ? It would feel less empty as well as ^.

00:28:537 (27,28,29,30,31,32) - This pattern sounds quite odd, to be honest. I did this
00:35:737 (36,37,38) - Here, invert 36 and 37. These two kats - 00:30:937 (32,39) - are both located to a bar line, but not 36. Okay
00:33:337 (34) - You may apply a k here, but this is only an option. Applied.
00:39:337 (40) - Big don here. You only have a crash so... ...yea. Applied.
00:40:537 (41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49) - I think you would better make the whole part equally as dense, either piano-based or drum-based the density of each instrument stay constant. I based it on the piano.
00:54:937 (62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69) - Somewhat odd-sounding in terms of how you made it, I'd rather put 68 out (would make people have more time to understand how to hit that big note, I mean 600 ms. ye probably a bad idea on my part.
00:59:737 (69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80) - This part; although only dons, should be toned down a bit. You made a sort of paradox as the acceleration is less dense at the beginning. Yeah, that was also a bad idea...

The whole kiai is, as I said, has a lot more denser patterns than the rest. For instance, that one. 01:26:585 (99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118) - It contains about 2/15 of the notes of the whole chart, condensed in 1/20 of the song. You might want to equalize more this, instead. Well I got rid of some notes, but seriously, it's the Kiai Time. I can only do so much to balance it while keeping it emphasized...

If you say this is long... well fml

wait for the rest
i say bring it :3

also thank you
Yuzeyun
[cheesiest]

00:12:187 (4) - this should be a regular kat, listen to the song.
00:12:637 (6) - put a kat, there is a sequence of 4 instead of three where you mapped the 3 kats after that note. the first of the sequence is on this note.
(wip)
00:14:587 (23) - Same as 00:12:187 (4)
00:15:187 (26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43) - These streams are a bit long, put that length for more intense parts.
00:16:987 (46) - Same as 00:12:187 (4)
00:19:387 (65) - ^
00:17:437 (48,49,50,51,52) - If anything, make it similar to 00:12:637 (6,7,8,9,10) - !
00:21:187 (73) - Delete, the reversed crash stops right there: 00:21:037 (72) -
00:21:637 (76) - Honestly, this don sounds awkward. Change it to kat ?
00:32:137 (160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168) - You could've done the stream a bit more complicated :P
00:33:637 (173) - Same as 00:21:637 (76) -

00:34:537 (180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188) - , 00:36:037 (193) - repeat the two above
00:36:937 (200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208) - , 00:38:437 (213) - ^
00:43:837 (258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278) - Even though that stream is justifiable, make it worth the difficulty ? As in, putting more color switches.
00:45:487 (279,280,281) - I think you can add in more 1/2 notes in there, it would feel less empty.
00:49:537 (316,317) - Cutting the stream at this point makes it sound odd.
00:54:937 (358,359) - Add in more notes, it's empty now, you break errythin'
00:55:387 (359,360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384,385,386,387,388,389,390,391,392,393,394,395,396,397,398) - For some reason it plays weird. I think some parts can be reworked such as 00:56:737 (372,373,374,375,376,377,378) - , which is followed by 00:57:337 (379,380,381,382,383,384) -
01:28:985 (561,562) - Empty noting.
01:36:185 (614,615) - ^
01:38:435 (627,628) - Add a note and make it kdk instead ! It should play nicely and go along the song.
01:39:635 (634,635) - ^
01:44:885 (673,674,675) - Even though you are mapping to the melody, that sounds awkward as it is. Actually, the whole kiai is awkward to play as you've mapped to the melody and leaving out the whole drumming.

^ Will only apply once Dain wins the battle against BSS. *Gezo kept praying*

[Futsuu]

The end is quite arg to play as every note overlap the rest. The only recommendation is to exceptionally put SV changes so very few overlaps happen.
00:03:487 - Since you've mapped all the same occurrences of that drumming d k k k, you may want to add one kat there
00:09:787 (11) - the same sound is heard at 00:10:237 (12) -, so maybe kat on 11 or don on 12-13
00:11:737 (14) - the music starts to become more agitated here, we don't feel it ! maybe add more agitation there, as in more 1/1 notes. that's only an idea, up to you to change it or not.
00:19:837 (28) - even though that's what I call a "closing note", this is not really one here as the sound continues until the next note. maybe small kat instead ?
00:21:337 (29) - and the big note is better here imo. you hear a (ear-breaking) crash there, so...
00:40:537 (64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75) - a little bit awkward to play and I don't get what you're mapping to, especially 69-75. is it the melody or the drumming ?
00:58:537 (101,102,103,104,105) - maybe cut that on 104 so no overlap would show ? that's 300ms between 104 and 105 here, and these 300ms may confuse the player as the scrolling speed gets halved. another solution is to include a 2.00x timing section only on the 105, and put that to 1.0x before the first actual note of the 100 bpm section. illustration:
http://puu.sh/5l6Dj.png timeline
http://puu.sh/5l6E5.png timing

01:04:537 (112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122) - not a good idea to change the rhythm so suddenly.
01:31:385 (162,163,164,165,166,167) - A bit broken, you're focusing too much on the melody.

[Muzukashii]
You barely used 1/2s in the lower diff (futsuu), so why 1/4s already ?
Your gimmick starting here 01:02:137 - fails a bit at the end, you go from 120 to 110 in scrolling speed, try ending at 100 before it speeds up.

00:59:737 (159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188) - Calm down that part a little bit, you're making the same paradox as in Kantan.

Your kiai focuses too much on the melody, which makes it sound a bit broken at parts, like here: 01:48:935 (321,322) - or this 01:52:985 (337,338,339,340,341) -

[Oni]
00:06:637 (12,13,14) - what, you never mapped that way on the other diffs, why change ? you don't even hear anything clear enough to have this mapped
00:09:187 (20) - ^
00:11:587 (27,28,29) - overmapping, the beginning of the excitation in the song is at 29, not before. there's indeed a sound but that's insignificant.
00:52:837 - I have the feeling that if you add a don here, it will sound less broken.
01:24:185 (404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414,415,416,417) - I don't see why you put kats there, there's no other sound than a kick.
01:37:535 - no matter which way you mapped this kiai, you totally missed a note here.
01:38:735 - ^
01:39:935 - ^
01:42:335 - ^
01:45:485 - add a note here, so you would have a nice transition to the next part of the kiai.

Some strange stuff happen in the kiai in this diff too, make sure notes are coherent between themselves rather than making standalone parts, that's the key of flow.

you will need more mods in order to get that ranked, best of luck to you, don't give up (welp knowing my ranking speed you won't at all else i hit you).
Topic Starter
Dainesl

_Gezo_ wrote:

[Futsuu]

The end is quite arg to play as every note overlap the rest. The only recommendation is to exceptionally put SV changes so very few overlaps happen.
00:03:487 - Since you've mapped all the same occurrences of that drumming d k k k, you may want to add one kat there
00:09:787 (11) - the same sound is heard at 00:10:237 (12) -, so maybe kat on 11 or don on 12-13
00:11:737 (14) - the music starts to become more agitated here, we don't feel it ! maybe add more agitation there, as in more 1/1 notes. that's only an idea, up to you to change it or not.
00:19:837 (28) - even though that's what I call a "closing note", this is not really one here as the sound continues until the next note. maybe small kat instead ?
00:21:337 (29) - and the big note is better here imo. you hear a (ear-breaking) crash there, so...
00:40:537 (64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75) - a little bit awkward to play and I don't get what you're mapping to, especially 69-75. is it the melody or the drumming ?
00:58:537 (101,102,103,104,105) - maybe cut that on 104 so no overlap would show ? that's 300ms between 104 and 105 here, and these 300ms may confuse the player as the scrolling speed gets halved. another solution is to include a 2.00x timing section only on the 105, and put that to 1.0x before the first actual note of the 100 bpm section. illustration:
http://puu.sh/5l6Dj.png timeline
http://puu.sh/5l6E5.png timing

01:04:537 (112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122) - not a good idea to change the rhythm so suddenly.
01:31:385 (162,163,164,165,166,167) - A bit broken, you're focusing too much on the melody.

Changed all.

[Muzukashii]
You barely used 1/2s in the lower diff (futsuu), so why 1/4s already ? idk, someone said that I should put 1/4s in. Besides, it introduces the player to the Oni, which has a lot more of those.
Your gimmick starting here 01:02:137 - fails a bit at the end, you go from 120 to 110 in scrolling speed, try ending at 100 before it speeds up. Okay I did that.

00:59:737 (159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188) - Calm down that part a little bit, you're making the same paradox as in Kantan. Alright alright.

Your kiai focuses too much on the melody, which makes it sound a bit broken at parts, like here: 01:48:935 (321,322) - or this 01:52:985 (337,338,339,340,341) - changed it a bit.

[Oni]
00:06:637 (12,13,14) - what, you never mapped that way on the other diffs, why change ? you don't even hear anything clear enough to have this mapped
00:09:187 (20) - ^
00:11:587 (27,28,29) - overmapping, the beginning of the excitation in the song is at 29, not before. there's indeed a sound but that's insignificant.
00:52:837 - I have the feeling that if you add a don here, it will sound less broken.
01:24:185 (404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414,415,416,417) - I don't see why you put kats there, there's no other sound than a kick.
01:37:535 - no matter which way you mapped this kiai, you totally missed a note here.
01:38:735 - ^
01:39:935 - ^
01:42:335 - ^
01:45:485 - add a note here, so you would have a nice transition to the next part of the kiai.

Some strange stuff happen in the kiai in this diff too, make sure notes are coherent between themselves rather than making standalone parts, that's the key of flow.

changed all.

you will need more mods in order to get that ranked, best of luck to you, don't give up (welp knowing my ranking speed you won't at all else i hit you).
thanks for mod :D
cheesiest
mod

_Gezo_ wrote:

[cheesiest]

00:12:187 (4) - this should be a regular kat, listen to the song.
00:12:637 (6) - put a kat, there is a sequence of 4 instead of three where you mapped the 3 kats after that note. the first of the sequence is on this note.
(wip)
00:14:587 (23) - Same as 00:12:187 (4)
00:15:187 (26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43) - These streams are a bit long, put that length for more intense parts.
00:16:987 (46) - Same as 00:12:187 (4)
00:19:387 (65) - ^
00:17:437 (48,49,50,51,52) - If anything, make it similar to 00:12:637 (6,7,8,9,10) - !
00:21:187 (73) - Delete, the reversed crash stops right there: 00:21:037 (72) -
00:21:637 (76) - Honestly, this don sounds awkward. Change it to kat ?
00:32:137 (160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168) - You could've done the stream a bit more complicated :P
00:33:637 (173) - Same as 00:21:637 (76) -

00:34:537 (180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188) - , 00:36:037 (193) - repeat the two above
00:36:937 (200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208) - , 00:38:437 (213) - ^
00:43:837 (258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278) - Even though that stream is justifiable, make it worth the difficulty ? As in, putting more color switches.
00:45:487 (279,280,281) - I think you can add in more 1/2 notes in there, it would feel less empty.
00:49:537 (316,317) - Cutting the stream at this point makes it sound odd.
00:54:937 (358,359) - Add in more notes, it's empty now, you break errythin'
00:55:387 (359,360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384,385,386,387,388,389,390,391,392,393,394,395,396,397,398) - For some reason it plays weird. I think some parts can be reworked such as 00:56:737 (372,373,374,375,376,377,378) - , which is followed by 00:57:337 (379,380,381,382,383,384) -
01:28:985 (561,562) - Empty noting.
01:36:185 (614,615) - ^
01:38:435 (627,628) - Add a note and make it kdk instead ! It should play nicely and go along the song.
01:39:635 (634,635) - ^
01:44:885 (673,674,675) - Even though you are mapping to the melody, that sounds awkward as it is. Actually, the whole kiai is awkward to play as you've mapped to the melody and leaving out the whole drumming.

^ Will only apply once Dain wins the battle against BSS. *Gezo kept praying*
Gezo's prayer was absorbed by the darkness.

yes to all except bolded. i added the note but i made dkd or i understood you wrong on that one idk; either one
Tuxxy_old
Futsuu:
00:18:337 Kat
00:54:037 Don
01:07::537 Kat
01:24:785 Kat
01:47:585 Kat
01:56:585 Kat
01:58:985 Kat

Muzukashii
00:49:537
01:24:485 Kat here
01:25:085 Kat here
01:57:185 Kat here

Feel free to disagree with any of these points, plan to go on other diffs
Topic Starter
Dainesl

Tuxxy wrote:

Futsuu:
00:18:337 Kat k
00:54:037 Don no
01:07:537 Kat 01:08:137 (127) - made this kat
01:24:785 Kat no
01:47:585 Kat 01:46:985 (209) - this instead.
01:56:585 Kat k
01:58:985 Kat k

Muzukashii
00:49:537 kat
01:24:485 Kat here
01:25:085 Kat here yes to both
01:57:185 Kat here k

Feel free to disagree with any of these points, plan to go on other diffs
will wait for that.
Tuxxy_old
Oni:
00:14:768 kat
00:20:737 kat
00:30:337 kat
01:42:035 kat

not much to say on inner...
Topic Starter
Dainesl

Tuxxy wrote:

Oni:
00:14:768 kat nah, don't want the section to be too intense
00:20:737 kat ok
00:30:337 kat ok
01:42:035 kat wouldn't really fit imo

not much to say on inner...
again thanks i guess
Evening
From Zenx' Mod Queue

buuuuuuuu I'm not bakaa ;w;

d = Don
k = Kat
D = Big Don
K = Big Kat
">" = Change to

Timing Check

Offset

No Problemssuoooo

BPM

Nuo Problemsss

Inner Oni
Hit-Sound Check/Addition of Notes

00:19:687 (64,65,66,67,68,69,70) - Invert Colors (d > k, k > d) | The clap sound in the music falls on the red line, so i suggest to invert them

Minor Suggestion: ( Change if you want )
00:22:837 (81) - d > k | You used k to emphasize the snares, so i suggest to change this to kat
00:24:037 (92) - ^
00:25:237 (100) - ^
... and all the notes that come with a snare


00:28:612 (127) - Remove | I suggest to separate the stream here since a new rhythm starts
00:58:237 (385,389) - d > k | I suggest to have a repeating kat rhythm pattern here since the piano repeats itself

No other problems, very smooth kat rhythm and good spread of kats

SV Check

No Problems

Kiai Time Check

No Problems

General

AiMod

No Problems

Title Check

No Problems

Oni
Hit-Sound Check/Addition of Notes

00:33:337 (143,144) - d > k | I think you started the kat rhythm a bit too late here, it sounds delayed and the kat rhythm seems to be lost
00:34:837 - Same here, I suggest to add some kats around here to balance out the kat rhythm
01:48:485 - ^

No other problems, good emphasis with kats and good rhythms but you need to balance out the kat density for the sections that are similar or else they feel lacking in kats

SV Check

No Problems

Kiai Time Check

No Problems

General

Ranking Criteria Check

No Problems

AiMod

No Problems

Title Check

No Problems

[Muzu]

00:49:837 (127,128) - Change to Dk OR dK or DK since the music emphasizes
01:31:085 (241) - d > k | There is a lack of kats in this portion here, i suggest to balance it out by adding one kat here
01:55:385 (337) - d > K | Since the music used a cymbal I suggest a big kat here
02:03:883 (355,356) - k > d | Since the pitch rises and 357 & 358 are higher pitched than 355 and 356, I suggest to have 355 and 356 to be dons

[Futsuu]

01:55:385 (229) - d > k | Same reason as Muzu

Lazy to mod kantan cause cause cause err things.
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