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Nardoxyribonucleic
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年5月19日 at 19:17:30

Artist: u's
Title: START:DASH!!
Source: Love Live! School idol project
Tags: Taiko ラブライブ SUNRISE Hata Aki Jikson[m9]
BPM: 150
Filesize: 8502kb
Play Time: 04:08
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.23 stars, 514 notes)
  2. Jik's Inner Oni (3.78 stars, 1297 notes)
  3. Kantan (1.36 stars, 311 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (2.63 stars, 757 notes)
  5. Oni (3.34 stars, 1041 notes)
Download: u's - START:DASH!!
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#3 - Taiko mapset
BG - 100%
Kantan - 100%
Futsuu - 100%
Muzukashii - 100%
Oni - 100%
Jik's Inner Oni - 100% (by Jikson[m9])
Acknowledgement
Thanks Jikson for the timing help, plus the guest difficulty.
happy623
LoveLive <33
Jikson[m9]
[冇其他語句可以代替到我有幾心急]
Guest diff
-xNaCLx-
Mod request :D/

[Oni]
02:11:770 (307) - please make the same as 01:01:370 (1), or make it same as here, just dont leave it different.

01:12:370 (48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58) - just some suggestions - maybe make it like kdd kdk kdD K D(image, imo this fit the pitch of vocal and the instrument behind better.
02:22:770 (52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62) -
03:33:170 (327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337) - same as this two

01:21:770 (93,94,95) - imo dkd would be better, as i would put this 6 sentence into front(1,3,5) and back(2,4,6) group, the sound at the front group among the 3 sentence is actually the same with different pitch, so i would make them the same. (i originally don't want to say this, but i found you did this in muzu, and i thought this is better.)
02:32:170 (95,96,97) - ^
03:42:570 (371,372,373) - ^

03:12:370 (235) - delete? as this note have no vocal and can emphasize the sound on k better

04:04:770 (480) - k?

[Muzu]
00:16:370 (57) - imo change it to k and add d at 00:16:570 fits the melody better.

01:12:370 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) - same as oni

02:07:170 - add d here

02:11:770 (264) - same as oni

02:47:970 (127,128,129) - i prefer making like oni -> k d d

[Futsuu]
02:11:770 (198) - actually to me it's same as the "start" as the first part... but if you really dont want to change just ignore me orz

[Kantan]
looks good~

good luck :D
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

NewibornCLivee wrote:

Mod request :D/

[Oni]
02:11:770 (307) - please make the same as 01:01:370 (1), or make it same as here, just dont leave it different. fixed

01:12:370 (48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58) - just some suggestions - maybe make it like kdd kdk kdD K D(image, imo this fit the pitch of vocal and the instrument behind better. It sounds better~
02:22:770 (52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62) -
03:33:170 (327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337) - same as this two

01:21:770 (93,94,95) - imo dkd would be better, as i would put this 6 sentence into front(1,3,5) and back(2,4,6) group, the sound at the front group among the 3 sentence is actually the same with different pitch, so i would make them the same. (i originally don't want to say this, but i found you did this in muzu, and i thought this is better.) fixed
02:32:170 (95,96,97) - ^
03:42:570 (371,372,373) - ^

03:12:370 (235) - delete? as this note have no vocal and can emphasize the sound on k better fixed

04:04:770 (480) - k? fixed

[Muzu]
00:16:370 (57) - imo change it to k and add d at 00:16:570 fits the melody better. fixed

01:12:370 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) - same as oni fixed

02:07:170 - add d here fixed

02:11:770 (264) - same as oni fixed

02:47:970 (127,128,129) - i prefer making like oni -> k d d fixed

[Futsuu]
02:11:770 (198) - actually to me it's same as the "start" as the first part... but if you really dont want to change just ignore me orz

[Kantan]
looks good~

good luck :D
Thanks for your mod~ :D
Jikson[m9]
我以為Nardo都慢我又慢添._.
我加速先
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic
Added Jik's Oni. (16 Sep, 2013)
y o u j o
Hi~

[General]
  • SPOILER
    1. d (don)
    2. D (Big don)
    3. k (kat)
    4. K (Big kat)
      I'm weak in English.

    [Kantan]
    • SPOILER
      1. 03:18:970 (133) - del?
      2. 04:04:770 (234,235) - add Finish?

      [Futsuu]
      • SPOILER
        1. 00:50:170 (149) - del
        2. 00:53:370 (156,157) - move 00:53:570 and 00:53:570 (157) - del "or" 00:53:370 (156,157) color change?
        3. 02:03:770 (172,173) - color change?
        4. 03:48:170 (239) - add d
        5. 04:02:970 - add d
        6. 04:04:770 (286,287) - add Finish?

        [Muzukashii]
        • SPOILER
          1. 00:16:970 (60) - del
          2. 00:27:970 (103) - k
          3. 01:05:770 - add d
          4. 01:18:570 - add d
          5. 01:31:570 (117) - d
          6. 01:51:170 (188) - k
          7. 02:16:170 - add d
          8. 02:28:970 - add d
          9. 03:21:970 (231,232) - d ?
          10. 03:26:570 (248) - add d
          11. 03:39:370 - add d

          [Oni]
          • SPOILER
            1. 00:16:570 (74) - k
            2. 00:35:970 (166) - k
            3. 01:07:270 (22) - d
            4. 01:51:170 (217) - k
            5. 03:02:070 - add d
            6. 03:21:970 (275,276) - d?
            7. 03:41:670 (366) - d

            [Jik's Oni]
            • SPOILER
              1. 00:23:570 (92) - k
              2. 00:48:970 (236) - del?
              3. 02:08:070 - add k

              Good Luck~ :D
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

y o u j o wrote:

Hi~

[Kantan]03:18:970 (133) - del? umm...no, I want to follow the vocal~
04:04:770 (234,235) - add Finish? It sounds good~

[Futsuu]00:50:170 (149) - del fixed
00:53:370 (156,157) - move 00:53:570 and 00:53:570 (157) - del "or" 00:53:370 (156,157) color change? fixed
02:03:770 (172,173) - color change? good~
03:48:170 (239) - add d fixed
04:02:970 - add d fixed
04:04:770 (286,287) - add Finish? fixed

[Muzukashii]00:16:970 (60) - del fixed
00:27:970 (103) - k umm...I want to follow the pitch of the vocal there.
01:05:770 - add d fixed
01:18:570 - add d fixed
01:31:570 (117) - d fixed
01:51:170 (188) - k no change, the reason is same as above
02:16:170 - add d fixed
02:28:970 - add d fixed
03:21:970 (231,232) - d ? umm...nope.
03:26:570 (248) - add d fixed
03:39:370 - add d fixed

[Oni]00:16:570 (74) - k fixed
00:35:970 (166) - k It sounds nice~
01:07:270 (22) - d fixed
01:51:170 (217) - k same as Muzu
03:02:070 - add d great~
03:21:970 (275,276) - d? no change
03:41:670 (366) - d fixed

Good Luck~ :D
Thanks for your mod~ :D
Jikson[m9]

y o u j o wrote:

[Jik's Oni]
  • SPOILER
    1. 00:23:570 (92) - k No, because if this is changed, the others also have to change but don't want to change the set
    2. 00:48:970 (236) - del? Same
    3. 02:08:070 - add k
    Ok,thanks
Thanks for modding!
toara_fict
Hi Nardo~~~ ~n~///
Taiko Mod from chat ~n~!

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:13:570 (48) - Chnge K
  2. 00:19:370 (67) - d and 00:19:470 (68) - Del
  3. 00:45:770 (174) - Del
  4. 00:48:770 (186) - Del Big note ....?
  5. 00:53:370 (202) - Del
  6. 01:35:170 (131) - move 01:34:970 (131) - and chnge k
  7. 01:37:370 (139,140) - Change coler ?
  8. 01:41:570 (153) - move 01:41:370 (153) - (Bass sound)
  9. 01:47:370 (175) - Del
  10. 01:47:970 (178) - Change k
  11. 01:56:170 (208) - move 01:55:770 (207) - :3
  12. 02:04:170 (236) - Del
  13. 02:05:570 (241) - Del Big
  14. 02:07:970 (250) - move 02:07:770 (250) - and 02:08:170 - add d?
  15. 02:08:970 (255) - Del
  16. 02:31:370 (78) - d and 02:31:470 - add d
  17. 03:00:770 (167) - Change d
  18. 03:17:770 (214) - Del
  19. 03:21:370 (228) - Change d
  20. 03:31:170 - 03:31:270 - add d and 03:32:170 (275) - Del
  21. 03:56:170 (365) - Del
  22. 04:03:770 (391,392,393) - kkk or ddk?
[Oni]
  1. 00:06:870 (28,29,30) - dd K
  2. 00:12:570 (53,54,55,56,57) - ddkdk
  3. 00:14:770 (64) - move 00:14:970 (64) -
  4. 02:00:470 (257) - move 02:00:670 (258) - and 02:00:770 (259) - k
  5. 02:25:770 (63,64,65,66,67,68,69) - kddddk or kkddddk ?
  6. 03:01:170 - ~ 03:01:570 - kdddk

Sorry Checking Muzukashii and Oni ...
But good map :3 fun >n<//

Good Luck :3
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

toara_fict wrote:

Hi Nardo~~~ ~n~///
Taiko Mod from chat ~n~!

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:13:570 (48) - Chnge K no change
  2. 00:19:370 (67) - d and 00:19:470 (68) - Del umm... remain unchanged, I want to follow the consecutive drum hits.
  3. 00:45:770 (174) - Del fixed
  4. 00:48:770 (186) - Del Big note ....? fixed
  5. 00:53:370 (202) - Del no change
  6. 01:35:170 (131) - move 01:34:970 (131) - and chnge k It's better~
  7. 01:37:370 (139,140) - Change coler ? fixed
  8. 01:41:570 (153) - move 01:41:370 (153) - (Bass sound) um... no change
  9. 01:47:370 (175) - Del no change
  10. 01:47:970 (178) - Change k Ok~
  11. 01:56:170 (208) - move 01:55:770 (207) - :3 fixed
  12. 02:04:170 (236) - Del fixed
  13. 02:05:570 (241) - Del Big no change
  14. 02:07:970 (250) - move 02:07:770 (250) - and 02:08:170 - add d? good~
  15. 02:08:970 (255) - Del fixed
  16. 02:31:370 (78) - d and 02:31:470 - add d Ok~
  17. 03:00:770 (167) - Change d fixed
  18. 03:17:770 (214) - Del no change
  19. 03:21:370 (228) - Change d no change
  20. 03:31:170 - 03:31:270 - add d and 03:32:170 (275) - Del added, but not deleted due to the presence of vocal.
  21. 03:56:170 (365) - Del fixed
  22. 04:03:770 (391,392,393) - kkk or ddk? um... no change
[Oni]
  1. 00:06:870 (28,29,30) - dd K no change
  2. 00:12:570 (53,54,55,56,57) - ddkdk changed to ddkkd~
  3. 00:14:770 (64) - move 00:14:970 (64) - Ok~
  4. 02:00:470 (257) - move 02:00:670 (258) - and 02:00:770 (259) - k fixed
  5. 02:25:770 (63,64,65,66,67,68,69) - kddddk or kkddddk ? changed to kkddddk~
  6. 03:01:170 - ~ 03:01:570 - kdddk good~

Sorry Checking Muzukashii and Oni ...
But good map :3 fun >n<// Thanks~

Good Luck :3
Thanks for your mod and star~ :D
tetsutaro
M4M for queue

[General]
:idea: Maybe another bg for <Guest Oni>, just for reverse consistency
:!: General mismatch of difficulty level. Refer to authentic sets or OnosakiHito's guide on suggested descriptors t/152263

[Kantan] Perceived difficulty rating: 5★ Kantan = 5★ Futsuu
:idea: Innovative dangling 1/2 patterns, but mixed coloring may prove a bit too hefty for typical Kantan standards.
00:10:770 (19,20,21,22,23) and similar - Large for emphasis. The "Hey! Hey!" shouts are very energetic parts that deserves more attention. Also applies to all diffs.
02:11:770 (158,1) - Borderline misuse of denden.

[Futsuu] Perceived difficulty rating: 7★ Futsuu = 5★ Muzukashii
:idea: Too hefty for typical Futsuu standards.
00:19:370 (56) - Bad use of drumroll. Returning does not reflect in actual gameplay.

[Muzukashii] Perceived difficulty rating: 7★ Muzukashii = 5★ Oni
:!: This is already the most the song can pull off wrt. to the complexity context. Any more than this easily constitutes as overmapping.

[Oni] Perceived difficulty rating: 8★ Oni 8★ Guest Oni
:!: General ambiently overmapped.
:!: <Guest Oni> Abuse of 2-2s in Go-go Time, without suitable recognition from the music.
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

tetsutaro wrote:

M4M for queue

[General]
:idea: Maybe another bg for <Guest Oni>, just for reverse consistency fixed
:!: General mismatch of difficulty level. Refer to authentic sets or OnosakiHito's guide on suggested descriptors t/152263

[Kantan] Perceived difficulty rating: 5★ Kantan = 5★ Futsuu
:idea: Innovative dangling 1/2 patterns, but mixed coloring may prove a bit too hefty for typical Kantan standards.
00:10:770 (19,20,21,22,23) and similar - Large for emphasis. The "Hey! Hey!" shouts are very energetic parts that deserves more attention. Also applies to all diffs. fixed some~
02:11:770 (158,1) - Borderline misuse of denden. It's still acceptable imo.

[Futsuu] Perceived difficulty rating: 7★ Futsuu = 5★ Muzukashii
:idea: Too hefty for typical Futsuu standards.
00:19:370 (56) - Bad use of drumroll. Returning does not reflect in actual gameplay. fixed, though there's no difference.

[Muzukashii] Perceived difficulty rating: 7★ Muzukashii = 5★ Oni
:!: This is already the most the song can pull off wrt. to the complexity context. Any more than this easily constitutes as overmapping.

[Oni] Perceived difficulty rating: 8★ Oni 8★ Guest Oni
:!: General ambiently overmapped.
:!: <Guest Oni> Abuse of 2-2s in Go-go Time, without suitable recognition from the music.
Thanks for your mod~
Yuzeyun
Hi. Mod as requested on 15/09/2013. Mod may be split up since I'm allowing only 3~4h of modding a day, if split up you can already fix some of the suggestions I've pointed out. Kudo only when the mod is full. Don't forget to explain thoroughly why you've refused it.

[General]
I recommend increasing by 20-30% the timing points. The song is very loud compared to the loudness of the hitsounds.

[Kantan]
  1. As tetsu stated, the 1/2 are a little bit off the level of Kantan for a big part of them. Some are acceptable but need some fixes.
  2. 00:07:970 (13,14) - For example, there's no real reason (beside the guitar) to leave that 1/2 since the song is pretty straightforward as a whole. If you delete it, that will create a 2/1 gap, which is recommended for such difficulties.
  3. 00:14:370 (26,27) - ^
  4. 00:20:770 (38) - Change to don, since there's only a kick. If you applied this, add a kat here : 00:21:170 - Snare. It will make the whole portion a little more consistent.
  5. 00:22:370 (40,41) - There, since the song offers only a triple kick, either keep 40 only (to create a 2/1 gap), or change 41 to d.
    If you applied the second option, you may want to put a gap here: 00:23:570 (43) - .
  6. 00:25:570 (47,48) - Double don, since there are only kicks here.
  7. 00:26:770 (49) - Nudge it a beat backwards? It really sounds a lot nicer than what it is now.
  8. 00:28:370 (53,54) - Even though it respects the lyrics pretty much, better not leave that. The whole section is calm, so there's no need for a 1/2. You may keep a note to move here: 00:28:770 -
  9. 00:29:570 (56) - Don here. You know why, I think. (Should be obvious regarding all the other color changes)
  10. 00:31:770 (61,62,63) - You may keep that, but it's quite risky. New players might get confused with that change (which reverts to 1/1).
  11. 00:33:570 (65) - 66 and 67 being really nicely done, I recommend deleting this note to leave a small gap so people can hit the kk without getting confused.
  12. 00:37:570 (74) - Nudge it a beat forward, the snares are very strong here. Add a k, too.
  13. 00:41:170 (81,82) - Only leave the kat, this is not the best way to put eighths, here.
  14. 00:43:970 (88) - Same here.
  15. 00:45:570 (91,92,93,94,95,96) - I'm pretty sure this rhythm can be simplified. Actually, I am certain of it. To me, the best is to use the don rhythm only, the kats are only too superficial imo.
  16. 00:48:770 (100) - onwards: The song uses another rhythm that implies the speed is halved, maybe follow the rhythm here instead?
  17. 00:55:170 (114,115,116,117,118) - Not the best rhythm to use, you better stick to 1/1 here since your pattern mainly follows vocals and drums.
  18. 00:58:770 (123,124,125,126,127) - ^
  19. In the first kiai, the 1/2 are following mainly vocals. if you really want to keep them, change them to double kat, so it will stay easy enough. Else, make a simple dkdkdkdk..d pattern in 1/1 and add breaks. In blue are mods for the kiai, not regarding your choice. They may be disregarded if you've chosen an option. You may apply them if you deem them nice enough, though.
  20. 01:08:370 (14,15) - 1. I recommend inverting notes. The current pattern makes the snare consistency loosen a bit.
  21. 01:12:570 (24) - 2. You should move that 1/2 before, and kat it.
  22. 01:14:370 (29,30,31) - 3. If possible, emphasize more the crescendo.
  23. 01:18:970 (39) - 4. Same as 2 above.
  24. 01:19:570 (41,42,43,44,45,46,47) - 5. Change the rhythm, it's more suitable for a Futsuu as it is now.
  25. 01:24:370 (54,55) - 6. kd, snare consistency
  26. 01:27:570 (62,63) - 7. ^
  27. 01:28:770 (64,65,66,67,68) - 8. Keep it simple, three kats spaced by 2 beats are enough!
  28. 01:32:970 (73) - kat, and nudge it 1/2 forward, so you can have a snare mapped.
  29. 01:37:170 (80,81,82) - I think you can simplify it a bit.
  30. 01:39:170 (85,86) - ^ (Actually it's the same as the beginning)
  31. 01:45:970 (96) - Make it consistent with the snares!
  32. 01:47:970 (101,102,103) - This pattern sounds odd, replace it to something simpler? Also, add some more 2/1 gaps.
  33. 01:51:570 (108,109) - Same, this 1/2 isn't so much fitting.
  34. 01:54:970 (116,117) - See @00:31:770.
  35. 01:55:970 (118,119,120,121,122,123) - Keep a simple rhythm, here.
  36. 01:59:170 (127) - onward, the song goes slower. (It's like the first quarter of the song, so you know what to do.)
  37. 02:05:970 (142,143,144,145) - This pattern, although vocal-fitting, will confuse a bit players. Keep it to the drum, if possible.
  38. 02:09:170 (150,151,152,153,154) - This pattern is not suitable for a kantan. Change it to something simpler!
  39. Kiai 2 should follow the same rhythm as Kiai 1. Since it's a copy-paste of Kiai 1, my suggestions stay the same. If you are going to make different patterns between K1 and K2, answer to the above mods in blue with the ID. (1->8)
  40. 02:48:770 (79) - Make a long roll, stopping a bar after? Since you're mapping to a vocal, this vocal is held.
  41. 02:51:170 (80,81,82,83,84,85) - Since the song is half-sped here, you might consider the perceived speed instead of the actual speed. Make them all 2/1?
  42. 02:53:570 (85,86,87) - I think making them dons will create more consistency with the fact that those three are lo-pitched.
  43. 02:58:370 (94,95,96,97,98,99,100) - You may put a 2/1 gap at note 4 or 6, but it's not a must.
  44. 03:01:570 (101,102,103,104,105,106,107) - ^
  45. 03:04:770 (108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121) - You have to change this. The current pattern is way too hard for a Kantan. My recommendations:
    1. 03:07:970 (116,117,118,119,120,121) - should be a three note D D D instead, where the notes are placed here: 03:07:970 (116) - , 03:08:570 (118) - and 03:09:170 (120) - . It will emphasize this part a little bit better.
    2. 03:04:770 (108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116) - here, only 111 may be deleted. that will make a kkd ddkdD pattern.
  46. 03:16:970 (123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132) - It's a bit way too hard for a typical Kantan. Keep the two first notes, the rest will need a drastic change however.
  47. Kiai 3, same comments as Kiai 2 and 1. The end also will be modded the same way as the part following the 2nd Kiai, so not much to say again.
I think I'll take a break right now since I don't know what's awaiting me (actually it's 16:00 and I'm hungry)
Snowy Heart
我来咯~~~啊哈哈~

General
D=Big Red
d=small red
K=Big blue
k=small blue
打?的有待斟酌= =

Kantan
00:54:370 (100) - k
02:00:770 (122) - k
发觉kantan好多在红线上= =总感觉特难的感觉-.-?

Futsuu
00:06:370 (20) - k
00:08:970 (27,28) - k d
00:34:370 (101) - k
00:52:370 (153) - k
01:37:970 (98,99) - d k
02:00:570 (164) - delete?
02:03:770 (172) - delete?
02:47:970 (88,89) - k d?
03:07:170 (132) - d
03:19:770 (159) - k
04:02:770 (278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286) - kdk??

Muzukashii
00:16:770 (59,60) - k d?
00:19:370 (67,68,69,70,71) - 唔...5连打已经可以放在这了吗= =?
00:24:770 (90,91) - k d?
00:35:970 (136) - k
00:38:370 - add d
01:16:570 (59) - d
01:27:170 (102) - k
01:53:770 (199) - k
02:05:170 (238,239,240) - kkk ....
02:55:970 (149,150) - d d?
04:00:170 (380) - k
04:03:970 (395) - k

Oni
00:20:170 (91,92,93) - k d d?
00:32:770 (148) - k
00:56:770 (267) - k
02:43:170 (140) - k?
03:22:370 (280,281,282) - k k k
03:48:970 - add k
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

Snowy Heart wrote:

我来咯~~~啊哈哈~

General
D=Big Red
d=small red
K=Big blue
k=small blue
打?的有待斟酌= =

Kantan
00:54:370 (100) - k umm...no
02:00:770 (122) - k I follow the vocal here. Pitch is same as 01:59:970 (121)
发觉kantan好多在红线上= =总感觉特难的感觉-.-?

Futsuu
00:06:370 (20) - k no change
00:08:970 (27,28) - k d changed to d d
00:34:370 (101) - k no change
00:52:370 (153) - k no, vocal having same pitch as 00:51:970 (152)
01:37:970 (98,99) - d k I followed the snare drum here.
02:00:570 (164) - delete? I tried to map the instrument sound here so as to make a contrast to the first quarter of the song.
02:03:770 (172) - delete? ^
02:47:970 (88,89) - k d? umm...no
03:07:170 (132) - d fixed~
03:19:770 (159) - k no change
04:02:770 (278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286) - kdk?? The background is dull at 280,283 and 286...

Muzukashii
00:16:770 (59,60) - k d? again, d k is for snare drum consistency.
00:19:370 (67,68,69,70,71) - 唔...5连打已经可以放在这了吗= =? Yes, I think pentaplet of the same colour can be applied in Muzu.
00:24:770 (90,91) - k d? changed to k k
00:35:970 (136) - k retained, strong drum here
00:38:370 - add d umm...no
01:16:570 (59) - d no change
01:27:170 (102) - k no change
01:53:770 (199) - k OK~
02:05:170 (238,239,240) - kkk .... no change
02:55:970 (149,150) - d d? fixed
04:00:170 (380) - k no change
04:03:970 (395) - k um...no

Oni
00:20:170 (91,92,93) - k d d? nope.
00:32:770 (148) - k no change
00:56:770 (267) - k ^
02:43:170 (140) - k? ^
03:22:370 (280,281,282) - k k k ^
03:48:970 - add k ^
Thanks for your mod~ :D
Yuzeyun
I will work on the two next difficulties on Thursday, poke me this day (I have all the afternoon)
The Oni diffs will be modded this week-end.
Dainesl
You requested me? :P

Only gonna mod the 3 lowdiffs 'cause long song. :c (also i suck at modding Onis)

General

Everything seems to be fine here.

Kantan

00:31:170 (57) - This feels as if it should be a kat, because the pitch is about as high as the note before it.

01:11:570 (22) - Maybe you could remove this to make it a bit simpler?

02:02:370 (124) - Maybe you could make this a big don to add emphasis onto this note?

02:39:170 (63,64) - Add finishes to these two for emphasis since this part has a lot of emphasis, I feel.

03:18:770 (123) - Move this half a beat back to fit with the song.

omg this Kantan is really nice <3 Bit hard, but still really nice! (why are you so good at lowdiff mapping, orz)

Futsuu

00:03:570 (9) - Maybe you could remove this, I don't hear anything that screams "put note here".

01:04:370 (5) - ^

01:17:170 (42) - ^

01:40:770 (106) - Maybe you could move this half a beat forward?

03:31:570 (193) - Maybe you could remove this?

03:32:370 (196) - Maybe you could move this half a beat back?

03:53:570 (252,253,254,255,256,257) - This pattern seems a little complex for a Futsuu, maybe you could simplify it?

04:04:570 (285) - Maybe you could remove this note since the common theme of finishers was 3 notes a beat apart, keep following it! You'll need to make 04:04:370 (284) - a finish to fit with the theme.

Again, a really nice lowdiff :D

Muzukashii

00:12:770 (46,47) - These seem like they should be finishers.

00:41:570 (159) - Maybe you could remove this?

01:01:570 (1) - This spinner's start isn't consistent with the other diffs, remove the note before, place the start of the spinner there and extend by 1/2 beat.

03:04:770 (181) - Either make this a kat or a big don.

03:57:970 (373,374,375) - You put finishers on these in previous diffs didn't you? Do it here too, for consistency :oops:

This is a really REALLY nice mapset. Keep getting mods and hopefully you'll get your map ranked soon ;)

sorry for only modding the low diffs, i was lazy -w-
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

Dainesl wrote:

You requested me? :P

Only gonna mod the 3 lowdiffs 'cause long song. :c (also i suck at modding Onis)

General

Everything seems to be fine here.

Kantan

00:31:170 (57) - This feels as if it should be a kat, because the pitch is about as high as the note before it. fixed

01:11:570 (22) - Maybe you could remove this to make it a bit simpler? Great~

02:02:370 (124) - Maybe you could make this a big don to add emphasis onto this note? um...I think the vocal/instrument is not lound enough to make it a don here.

02:39:170 (63,64) - Add finishes to these two for emphasis since this part has a lot of emphasis, I feel. changed to K d

03:18:770 (123) - Move this half a beat back to fit with the song. um...I chose to map the snare here.

omg this Kantan is really nice <3 Bit hard, but still really nice! (why are you so good at lowdiff mapping, orz) Thanks~

Futsuu

00:03:570 (9) - Maybe you could remove this, I don't hear anything that screams "put note here". fixed

01:04:370 (5) - ^ I want to map the snare in the refrain to strengthen the beats :>

01:17:170 (42) - ^ ^

01:40:770 (106) - Maybe you could move this half a beat forward? OK

03:31:570 (193) - Maybe you could remove this? no change

03:32:370 (196) - Maybe you could move this half a beat back? umm...no

03:53:570 (252,253,254,255,256,257) - This pattern seems a little complex for a Futsuu, maybe you could simplify it? no change

04:04:570 (285) - Maybe you could remove this note since the common theme of finishers was 3 notes a beat apart, keep following it! You'll need to make 04:04:370 (284) - a finish to fit with the theme. fixed

Again, a really nice lowdiff :D Thanks~

Muzukashii

00:12:770 (46,47) - These seem like they should be finishers. I think it is a bit early to emphasize these vocals in the beginning.

00:41:570 (159) - Maybe you could remove this? fixed

01:01:570 (1) - This spinner's start isn't consistent with the other diffs, remove the note before, place the start of the spinner there and extend by 1/2 beat. fixed

03:04:770 (181) - Either make this a kat or a big don. changed to kat

03:57:970 (373,374,375) - You put finishers on these in previous diffs didn't you? Do it here too, for consistency :oops: remain unchanged.

This is a really REALLY nice mapset. Keep getting mods and hopefully you'll get your map ranked soon ;)

sorry for only modding the low diffs, i was lazy -w-
Thanks for your mod~ :D
qoot8123
抱歉來晚了.....

Red : unrankable issue
Purple : strongly recommend
Black : just suggestion

[General]
  1. 檢查一下Letterbox in breaks 有沒有都取消掉
  2. Hata Aki SUNRISE 加到tag裡
[ Kantan]
SPOILER
  1. 00:01:370 (2) - ,00:02:970 (4) -,00:04:570 (6) - 我覺得這些note可以刪掉,新手會比較好抓節奏
  2. 00:05:970 (8) - 這個note放在這裡會增加00:06:370 (9) - 的難度,建議把00:05:970 (8) - 刪掉
  3. 00:07:170 - ~ 00:19:970 - 這裡感覺太多變化了,這樣會讓新手打起來很吃力,建議就跟著鼓放note,ex:http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1006737,後面也用這個節奏會比較好
  4. 00:19:970 - ~ 00:35:970 - 這一段放太多note了www其實有很多地方可以砍掉很多note,像是00:23:570 (41) - ,00:29:970 (54) - 都可以刪掉
  5. 00:21:170 (37) - 移到00:22:770 -
  6. 00:31:770 (58,59,60) - 這個節奏太難了,移到00:31:970 - ,然後 00:33:170 (61) - 刪掉
  7. 00:33:770 (61,62) - Kantan裡應該不能有1/2 notes,把這個改簡單一點
  8. 00:40:770 (76) - 這裡應該還沒有換到下一段的感覺,移到00:41:570 - ,00:43:170 (81) - 移到00:43:970 - ,00:44:770 (84) - 刪掉,00:45:970 - 加k,00:46:570 (88,89) - 移到00:46:770 - 最後00:46:970 (89) - 刪掉finish
  9. 00:48:770 - ~ 00:55:170 - 太固定的節奏會讓譜面變得很枯燥乏味,建議把00:49:570 (94) - 和00:52:770 (98) - 刪掉
  10. 00:56:170 (103,104) - note放在紅線上會變得很難,在00:56:370 - 放一個k就好
  11. 00:59:370 (110,111) - 同上
  12. 01:03:770 (3) - ,01:05:370 (7) - ,01:06:970 (11) - ,01:08:570 (15) - ,01:10:170 (19) - 刪掉,1/2在kantan太難了
  13. 01:11:770 (22) - 移到01:11:570 -
  14. 01:12:370 (23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - 這個1/1notes感覺太長了,建議把01:13:170 (25,29) - 刪掉

Comment
這個Kantan感覺太難了,裡面放了很多1/2 notes,節奏也不太好抓,像是00:31:770 (58,59,60) -,note放在紅線基本上會很難抓節奏,建議把這個kantan改簡單一點,不然就把難度名稱改成Futsuu,其他的難度以此類推。我只有mod前面第一段,後面幾乎都大同小異,後面也要照前面的方式改喔。

[ Futsuu]

Comment
這個Futsuu已經完全不像futsuu了....反而有點像Muzu,基本上Futsuu可以有1/2 note,不過只能用kkdd的雙數串,強烈建議把難度改成Muzukashii,mod的話我先不mod,等擬修改成muzu再找我:33

[ Muzukashii]

Comment
把這個Muzu改改難一點點,然後把diff名稱改成Oni,不要改得太難喔

[ Oni]

Comment
把diff名稱改成Inner Oni,我之後再來看:3

[ Jik's Oni]

Comment
把diff名稱改成Jik's Ura Oni,我之後再來看:3
Yuzeyun
I don't know how many things you changed to my Kantan mod aaaaaaaaa

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:08:370 - Here, a kat would be suitable, I don't think mapping to the background instrument is a good idea as people will ask themselves 'What is it mapped to'.
  2. 00:09:170 - Same goes here.
  3. 00:14:770 - ^ Although it would be harder to put this right to have a decently made pattern which is not too hard, since the optimal pattern would be ddkd dkdd, which is, I guess, a bit too hard for what you've wanted to make.
  4. 00:21:570 (47,48,49) - If you've wanted this to map to the piano, move 00:22:370 (49) - to the red tick before ? It sounds a bit less empty than the current you've got now.
  5. 00:23:170 - As an opening note and clearly audible kick here, why not move 00:23:570 (51) - here ?
  6. 00:24:770 (54) - Take out the kat, it would be better to focus only on the drums here.
  7. 00:25:370 (55,56) - Both notes sound a bit off (even though mapped to the vocal), might change to 1/1... I'd recommend moving 00:25:370 (55) - to 00:25:570 - and deleting 00:25:770 (56) - .
  8. 00:29:570 (65) - Change to a don, there's no real reason for it to be a kat !
  9. 00:31:770 (70,71,72) - Same comment as 00:25:370 (55,56) -.
  10. 00:37:970 (83,84,85,86) - Sounds real empty, you need to change it. I recommend a rhythm as this one: http://puu.sh/4I761.png (Cursor @ 00:38:770 - )
  11. 00:44:370 (98,99,100) - Same as above.
  12. 00:45:570 (102,103,104,105,106) - Since this rhythm is like this, why not apply somethings that makes the player perceive it in a better fashion ?
  13. 00:48:770 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117) - Same comment as in Kantan, make this flow better to the fact it slows down ?
  14. 00:56:370 - Maybe add a kat ?
  15. 00:58:370 (133,134,135,136,137) - Same comment as 00:45:570 (102,103,104,105,106) -
  16. 01:08:370 (14,15) - Invert hitsounding for a better snare consistency. I mean, you've used snares on nearly every other beat 2/4 but not here!
  17. 01:12:370 - Add a snare ?... I mean kat.
  18. 01:15:170 (31) - Should it be a Don ?
  19. 01:20:370 - Same as 01:12:370 -
  20. 01:20:770 (44,45,46) - You might want to add a snare in its middle as well. Also if you apply so, don't forget to change the pattern so it fits better.
  21. 01:27:570 (58) - Replace to a kat maybe ? It will fit better to the lyric as well as the drum. Good compromise !
  22. 01:31:170 (65,66,67) - You didn't make a good compromise to the vocal here, the rhythm is very different (the two last notes are 1/2 earlier than what you put here)
  23. 01:31:970 (67) - to 01:44:770 (95) - , take in account comments from 00:07:170 (11) - to 00:19:970 (43) - .
  24. 01:47:970 (102,103,104) - This pattern breaks the flow of the part... I'm certain you can make something better ><
  25. 01:54:770 (117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124) - This pattern is a bit off thesong, I recommend using this pattern instead: http://puu.sh/4I7UW.png
  26. 01:59:170 (129,130,131,132,133,134,135) - Same comment as in 00:48:770 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117) -
  27. 02:05:970 (144,145,146,147) - I'm lost, I don't know where I pointed this out again but.. Add a kat in it ?
  28. 02:09:170 (152,153,154,155) - , and the whole kiai, take in accounts the same comments as in the first kiai as they are similar.
  29. 02:42:370 (67,68,69) - Since it's getting calmer, maybe make it more spaaced in time ?
  30. 02:47:970 (73) - Kat, make it consistent with the lyrics if that's what you've wanted to.
  31. 02:55:170 (84) - to 03:09:370 (116) - Nice freestyle here. However one thing to point: 03:04:770 (103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116) - It becomes a bit too long don't you think ?
  32. 03:17:370 (124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131) - This is a bit risky here, try something else in this fashion ?
  33. Third kiai has same comments as it's the same. Except where you put the slider, I feel it was misplaced here. The end is the same as the very beginning (Did you run out of ideas ?)
(Why so huge? I'm really tired; let's take a break.)
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

_Gezo_ wrote:

Hi. Mod as requested on 15/09/2013. Mod may be split up since I'm allowing only 3~4h of modding a day, if split up you can already fix some of the suggestions I've pointed out. Kudo only when the mod is full. Don't forget to explain thoroughly why you've refused it.

[General]
I recommend increasing by 20-30% the timing points. The song is very loud compared to the loudness of the hitsounds. fixed

[Kantan]
  1. As tetsu stated, the 1/2 are a little bit off the level of Kantan for a big part of them. Some are acceptable but need some fixes.
  2. 00:07:970 (13,14) - For example, there's no real reason (beside the guitar) to leave that 1/2 since the song is pretty straightforward as a whole. If you delete it, that will create a 2/1 gap, which is recommended for such difficulties. fixed
  3. 00:14:370 (26,27) - ^ fixed
  4. 00:20:770 (38) - Change to don, since there's only a kick. If you applied this, add a kat here : 00:21:170 - Snare. It will make the whole portion a little more consistent. fixed
  5. 00:22:370 (40,41) - There, since the song offers only a triple kick, either keep 40 only (to create a 2/1 gap), or change 41 to d.
    If you applied the second option, you may want to put a gap here: 00:23:570 (43) - . applied the first one.
  6. 00:25:570 (47,48) - Double don, since there are only kicks here. fixed
  7. 00:26:770 (49) - Nudge it a beat backwards? It really sounds a lot nicer than what it is now. fixed, and I used k to try to follow the background.
  8. 00:28:370 (53,54) - Even though it respects the lyrics pretty much, better not leave that. The whole section is calm, so there's no need for a 1/2. You may keep a note to move here: 00:28:770 - fixed
  9. 00:29:570 (56) - Don here. You know why, I think. (Should be obvious regarding all the other color changes) fixed
  10. 00:31:770 (61,62,63) - You may keep that, but it's quite risky. New players might get confused with that change (which reverts to 1/1). I choose to keep that.
  11. 00:33:570 (65) - 66 and 67 being really nicely done, I recommend deleting this note to leave a small gap so people can hit the kk without getting confused. OK~
  12. 00:37:570 (74) - Nudge it a beat forward, the snares are very strong here. Add a k, too. fixed
  13. 00:41:170 (81,82) - Only leave the kat, this is not the best way to put eighths, here. fixed
  14. 00:43:970 (88) - Same here. fixed
  15. 00:45:570 (91,92,93,94,95,96) - I'm pretty sure this rhythm can be simplified. Actually, I am certain of it. To me, the best is to use the don rhythm only, the kats are only too superficial imo. Good~
  16. 00:48:770 (100) - onwards: The song uses another rhythm that implies the speed is halved, maybe follow the rhythm here instead? OK.
  17. 00:55:170 (114,115,116,117,118) - Not the best rhythm to use, you better stick to 1/1 here since your pattern mainly follows vocals and drums. fixed
  18. 00:58:770 (123,124,125,126,127) - ^ fixed
  19. In the first kiai, the 1/2 are following mainly vocals. if you really want to keep them, change them to double kat, so it will stay easy enough. Else, make a simple dkdkdkdk..d pattern in 1/1 and add breaks. In blue are mods for the kiai, not regarding your choice. They may be disregarded if you've chosen an option. You may apply them if you deem them nice enough, though.
  20. 01:08:370 (14,15) - 1. I recommend inverting notes. The current pattern makes the snare consistency loosen a bit. I want to follow the vocal here, so remain unchanged.
  21. 01:12:570 (24) - 2. You should move that 1/2 before, and kat it. OK.
  22. 01:14:370 (29,30,31) - 3. If possible, emphasize more the crescendo. changed to D K K
  23. 01:18:970 (39) - 4. Same as 2 above. fixed
  24. 01:19:570 (41,42,43,44,45,46,47) - 5. Change the rhythm, it's more suitable for a Futsuu as it is now. removed 44
  25. 01:24:370 (54,55) - 6. kd, snare consistency fixed
  26. 01:27:570 (62,63) - 7. ^ The vocal at 63 is loud enough that I want to d k pattern here.
  27. 01:28:770 (64,65,66,67,68) - 8. Keep it simple, three kats spaced by 2 beats are enough! 65 and 67 are removed.
  28. 01:32:970 (73) - kat, and nudge it 1/2 forward, so you can have a snare mapped. fixed
  29. 01:37:170 (80,81,82) - I think you can simplify it a bit. no change, keep "Hey Start Dash" vocal mapped.
  30. 01:39:170 (85,86) - ^ (Actually it's the same as the beginning) fixed
  31. 01:45:970 (96) - Make it consistent with the snares! OK.
  32. 01:47:970 (101,102,103) - This pattern sounds odd, replace it to something simpler? Also, add some more 2/1 gaps. fixed
  33. 01:51:570 (108,109) - Same, this 1/2 isn't so much fitting. fixed
  34. 01:54:970 (116,117) - See @00:31:770.
  35. 01:55:970 (118,119,120,121,122,123) - Keep a simple rhythm, here. fixed
  36. 01:59:170 (127) - onward, the song goes slower. (It's like the first quarter of the song, so you know what to do.) fixed
  37. 02:05:970 (142,143,144,145) - This pattern, although vocal-fitting, will confuse a bit players. Keep it to the drum, if possible. Contrast to the first quarter, I want to emphasize the vocal more. So remain unchanged.
  38. 02:09:170 (150,151,152,153,154) - This pattern is not suitable for a kantan. Change it to something simpler! fixed
  39. Kiai 2 should follow the same rhythm as Kiai 1. Since it's a copy-paste of Kiai 1, my suggestions stay the same. If you are going to make different patterns between K1 and K2, answer to the above mods in blue with the ID. (1->8) fixed
  40. 02:48:770 (79) - Make a long roll, stopping a bar after? Since you're mapping to a vocal, this vocal is held. This part is the most silent throughout the song, so I want to leave the space for players to rest here.
  41. 02:51:170 (80,81,82,83,84,85) - Since the song is half-sped here, you might consider the perceived speed instead of the actual speed. Make them all 2/1? OK.
  42. 02:53:570 (85,86,87) - I think making them dons will create more consistency with the fact that those three are lo-pitched. changed to K D D
  43. 02:58:370 (94,95,96,97,98,99,100) - You may put a 2/1 gap at note 4 or 6, but it's not a must. no change~
  44. 03:01:570 (101,102,103,104,105,106,107) - ^ ^
  45. 03:04:770 (108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121) - You have to change this. The current pattern is way too hard for a Kantan. My recommendations:
    1. 03:07:970 (116,117,118,119,120,121) - should be a three note D D D instead, where the notes are placed here: 03:07:970 (116) - , 03:08:570 (118) - and 03:09:170 (120) - . It will emphasize this part a little bit better. fixed
    2. 03:04:770 (108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116) - here, only 111 may be deleted. that will make a kkd ddkdD pattern. 111 is retained to map the snare.
  46. 03:16:970 (123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132) - It's a bit way too hard for a typical Kantan. Keep the two first notes, the rest will need a drastic change however. fixed
  47. Kiai 3, same comments as Kiai 2 and 1. The end also will be modded the same way as the part following the 2nd Kiai, so not much to say again. fixed
I think I'll take a break right now since I don't know what's awaiting me (actually it's 16:00 and I'm hungry)

_Gezo_ wrote:

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:08:370 - Here, a kat would be suitable, I don't think mapping to the background instrument is a good idea as people will ask themselves 'What is it mapped to'. It's suitable, but I choose to map the instrument for the sake of simplicity.
  2. 00:09:170 - Same goes here.
  3. 00:14:770 - ^ Although it would be harder to put this right to have a decently made pattern which is not too hard, since the optimal pattern would be ddkd dkdd, which is, I guess, a bit too hard for what you've wanted to make. Yeah, you know what I want to make. Patterns like ddkd dkdd would be seen in Muzu.
  4. 00:21:570 (47,48,49) - If you've wanted this to map to the piano, move 00:22:370 (49) - to the red tick before ? It sounds a bit less empty than the current you've got now. If 00:22:370 (49) is moved, the note following it would be a bit weird...
  5. 00:23:170 - As an opening note and clearly audible kick here, why not move 00:23:570 (51) - here ? fixed
  6. 00:24:770 (54) - Take out the kat, it would be better to focus only on the drums here. fixed
  7. 00:25:370 (55,56) - Both notes sound a bit off (even though mapped to the vocal), might change to 1/1... I'd recommend moving 00:25:370 (55) - to 00:25:570 - and deleting 00:25:770 (56) - . fixed
  8. 00:29:570 (65) - Change to a don, there's no real reason for it to be a kat ! fixed
  9. 00:31:770 (70,71,72) - Same comment as 00:25:370 (55,56) -. fixed
  10. 00:37:970 (83,84,85,86) - Sounds real empty, you need to change it. I recommend a rhythm as this one: http://puu.sh/4I761.png (Cursor @ 00:38:770 - ) Great~
  11. 00:44:370 (98,99,100) - Same as above.
  12. 00:45:570 (102,103,104,105,106) - Since this rhythm is like this, why not apply somethings that makes the player perceive it in a better fashion ? fixed
  13. 00:48:770 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117) - Same comment as in Kantan, make this flow better to the fact it slows down ? fixed a bit~
  14. 00:56:370 - Maybe add a kat ? not added for simplicity.
  15. 00:58:370 (133,134,135,136,137) - Same comment as 00:45:570 (102,103,104,105,106) - fixed
  16. 01:08:370 (14,15) - Invert hitsounding for a better snare consistency. I mean, you've used snares on nearly every other beat 2/4 but not here! If inverted, the same pattern will appear 3 times in a row, which may be a bit boring...
  17. 01:12:370 - Add a snare ?... I mean kat. Good~
  18. 01:15:170 (31) - Should it be a Don ? I followed the vocal here, which is higher than 01:14:370 in terms of pitch.
  19. 01:20:370 - Same as 01:12:370 - um...I want to make a difference here.
  20. 01:20:770 (44,45,46) - You might want to add a snare in its middle as well. Also if you apply so, don't forget to change the pattern so it fits better. I want to make a contrast to the snares before, so I followed the vocal here.
  21. 01:27:570 (58) - Replace to a kat maybe ? It will fit better to the lyric as well as the drum. Good compromise ! Good !
  22. 01:31:170 (65,66,67) - You didn't make a good compromise to the vocal here, the rhythm is very different (the two last notes are 1/2 earlier than what you put here) um...I can't think of a pattern that is easy as this to fit the vocal...
  23. 01:31:970 (67) - to 01:44:770 (95) - , take in account comments from 00:07:170 (11) - to 00:19:970 (43) - .
  24. 01:47:970 (102,103,104) - This pattern breaks the flow of the part... I'm certain you can make something better >< changed ><
  25. 01:54:770 (117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124) - This pattern is a bit off thesong, I recommend using this pattern instead: http://puu.sh/4I7UW.png fixed
  26. 01:59:170 (129,130,131,132,133,134,135) - Same comment as in 00:48:770 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117) - fixed a bit~
  27. 02:05:970 (144,145,146,147) - I'm lost, I don't know where I pointed this out again but.. Add a kat in it ? not added for simplicity.
  28. 02:09:170 (152,153,154,155) - , and the whole kiai, take in accounts the same comments as in the first kiai as they are similar. fixed
  29. 02:42:370 (67,68,69) - Since it's getting calmer, maybe make it more spaaced in time ? fixed
  30. 02:47:970 (73) - Kat, make it consistent with the lyrics if that's what you've wanted to. fixed
  31. 02:55:170 (84) - to 03:09:370 (116) - Nice freestyle here. However one thing to point: 03:04:770 (103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116) - It becomes a bit too long don't you think ? cutting this will break the flow... ><
  32. 03:17:370 (124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131) - This is a bit risky here, try something else in this fashion ? fixed~
  33. Third kiai has same comments as it's the same. Except where you put the slider, I feel it was misplaced here. The end is the same as the very beginning (Did you run out of ideas ?) fixed
(Why so huge? I'm really tired; let's take a break.)
Thanks for your mod~ Looking forward to the mods for other diffs ;)
mingmichael
ming comes @w@//

Kantan
good~

Futsuu
good~

Muzukashii
  1. 00:05:170 (14,15) - kat don or don don << i changed this because the sound (instrument sound) at (15) becomes lower than 00:04:570 (12,13) -, and they are kat kat. if you use kat too at 00:05:370 (15) - , it's quite monotonious :c
  2. 00:06:570 - add don here << to follow the drum hits. don't worry, it's not hard for muzukashii diff c: . ohyah, and change 00:06:770 - to be kat, to follow the vocal sound which is quite high. i think... lol
  3. 00:22:570 - and 00:22:770 - can be added with don kat << i added them to follow the drum hits owo much better because before you didn't put any notes there :c there's like something missing sounds there
  4. 01:22:370 - add finisher, because the song gives the finisher sound at here. much better if you follow it owo
  5. 02:32:770 - ^
  6. 02:47:970 - kat here. there's not any reason to use don for the high vocal sound ;w; it has same pitch sound like 02:47:170 - , and you used kat at there too. why don't you use a same note too?
  7. 02:48:770 - don, the sound becomes lower (the pitch sound i mean)
  8. 03:43:170 - finisher here~ the reason same like above~ to follow the finsiher sound which is given by the song

Oni
  1. 00:00:770 (3) - kat here << i change this to follow the piano sound. ddk << much better to follow the piano sounds
    and at 00:02:170 (6,7,8) - kdk << i don't know why kdk, because i think (6) and (8) have same pitch sound. (i have studied piano for 6years, so i am sensitive with the sound, like this lol)
  2. 00:05:170 (18,19) - kat don or don don << same like muzukashii diff. because the pitch sound at (19) becomes lower :c much better use don than kat for the lower pitch sound
  3. 00:11:170 (42,43,44) - ddd, same like 00:10:370 (38,39,40) - ddd << i changed this because 00:11:170 (42,43,44,45) - has same part like 00:10:370 (38,39,40,41) - . be more concistent :c
  4. 00:41:370 (165) - don? the vocal becomes lower (bit lower) than 00:41:170 (164) - . so that's why i changed to be don
  5. upssss, you missed finisher at 00:48:770 (193) - :o it follows the finsiher sound from song
  6. 01:04:870 (10) - move to 01:04:670 - and 01:04:770 (10) - to be don << the kkd triplet which is given much stronger at there than you put before
  7. 01:11:270 (39) - move to 01:11:070 - and 01:11:170 (39) - don. same like ^. the kkd triplet is stronger at there
  8. fix 01:16:970 (63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70) - same like ^ too
  9. 01:28:770 (116) - finsiher here. hear carefully, the song gives finisher sound :3
  10. 02:14:570 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - change like the previous mod~
  11. 02:20:970 (35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42) - ^
  12. 02:27:370 (63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70) - ^
  13. 02:31:270 (82) - move to 02:31:070 - and change to be don. because ddk triplet at there give much stronger sound. hear it~
  14. 03:17:570 (225) - finsiher here~ the song gives finisher sound here owo
  15. 03:24:970 (255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262) - same like above mods~
  16. 03:37:770 (313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320) - ^
  17. 03:56:770 (384,385,386) - ddd, same like the first part, when this part you used ddd k (be consistent)

Inner Oni
  • Inner Oni diff? why don't you use 6 for HP? owo?
  1. 00:02:170 (7,8,9) - kdk, same like oni mod lol
  2. 00:11:170 (46,47,48) - ddd << i don't know why, but ddd k much better than dkd k
  3. 00:33:170 (149) - kat here << to follow the beat, same like 00:30:770 (140,143,146) - you used kat to follow it
  4. 01:35:970 (150,151,152) - ddd. same like above mod
  5. 01:43:970 (186,187,188,189,190,191,192) - kdddkkd is better than kddkddk ;w;//

Jik's Ura Oni
  1. 00:00:770 (3) - kat and 00:02:170 (7,8,9) - kdk << for the reason why i changed these you can see at Oni diff. because it is same~
  2. 00:31:570 (131,137,141,144,145) - kat << i changed this to follow the beat sounds and for (144) and (145) i changed to be kats for clap (i don't know the name of those sounds lol)
  3. 00:34:770 (148) - big kat much better than big don
  4. 00:48:770 (235) - finisher here, because the song gives finsiher sound at here D:
  5. 01:59:170 (58) - ^
  6. 02:08:770 (103) - ^
  7. start mapping again from 03:55:970 - :C the song still continues
goodluck nardo :3
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

mingmichael wrote:

ming comes @w@//

Kantan
good~

Futsuu
good~

Muzukashii
  1. 00:05:170 (14,15) - kat don or don don << i changed this because the sound (instrument sound) at (15) becomes lower than 00:04:570 (12,13) -, and they are kat kat. if you use kat too at 00:05:370 (15) - , it's quite monotonious :c I follow the pitch of the main rhythm here, so d k is used~
  2. 00:06:570 - add don here << to follow the drum hits. don't worry, it's not hard for muzukashii diff c: . ohyah, and change 00:06:770 - to be kat, to follow the vocal sound which is quite high. i think... lol fixed
  3. 00:22:570 - and 00:22:770 - can be added with don kat << i added them to follow the drum hits owo much better because before you didn't put any notes there :c there's like something missing sounds there fixed
  4. 01:22:370 - add finisher, because the song gives the finisher sound at here. much better if you follow it owo fixed
  5. 02:32:770 - ^ fixed
  6. 02:47:970 - kat here. there's not any reason to use don for the high vocal sound ;w; it has same pitch sound like 02:47:170 - , and you used kat at there too. why don't you use a same note too? fixed
  7. 02:48:770 - don, the sound becomes lower (the pitch sound i mean) fixed
  8. 03:43:170 - finisher here~ the reason same like above~ to follow the finsiher sound which is given by the song fixed

Oni
  1. 00:00:770 (3) - kat here << i change this to follow the piano sound. ddk << much better to follow the piano sounds
    and at 00:02:170 (6,7,8) - kdk << i don't know why kdk, because i think (6) and (8) have same pitch sound. (i have studied piano for 6years, so i am sensitive with the sound, like this lol) fixed some~
  2. 00:05:170 (18,19) - kat don or don don << same like muzukashii diff. because the pitch sound at (19) becomes lower :c much better use don than kat for the lower pitch sound no change
  3. 00:11:170 (42,43,44) - ddd, same like 00:10:370 (38,39,40) - ddd << i changed this because 00:11:170 (42,43,44,45) - has same part like 00:10:370 (38,39,40,41) - . be more concistent :c fixed
  4. 00:41:370 (165) - don? the vocal becomes lower (bit lower) than 00:41:170 (164) - . so that's why i changed to be don fixed
  5. upssss, you missed finisher at 00:48:770 (193) - :o it follows the finsiher sound from song fixed
  6. 01:04:870 (10) - move to 01:04:670 - and 01:04:770 (10) - to be don << the kkd triplet which is given much stronger at there than you put before Good~
  7. 01:11:270 (39) - move to 01:11:070 - and 01:11:170 (39) - don. same like ^. the kkd triplet is stronger at there ^
  8. fix 01:16:970 (63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70) - same like ^ too ^
  9. 01:28:770 (116) - finsiher here. hear carefully, the song gives finisher sound :3 fixed
  10. 02:14:570 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - change like the previous mod~ fixed
  11. 02:20:970 (35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42) - ^ ^
  12. 02:27:370 (63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70) - ^ ^
  13. 02:31:270 (82) - move to 02:31:070 - and change to be don. because ddk triplet at there give much stronger sound. hear it~ fixed
  14. 03:17:570 (225) - finsiher here~ the song gives finisher sound here owo fixed
  15. 03:24:970 (255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262) - same like above mods~ fixed
  16. 03:37:770 (313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320) - ^ ^
  17. 03:56:770 (384,385,386) - ddd, same like the first part, when this part you used ddd k (be consistent)
fixed

Inner Oni
  • Inner Oni diff? why don't you use 6 for HP? owo? OK, I will consider this later.
  1. 00:02:170 (7,8,9) - kdk, same like oni mod lol umm... ddk is better~
  2. 00:11:170 (46,47,48) - ddd << i don't know why, but ddd k much better than dkd k changed to ddk instead~
  3. 00:33:170 (149) - kat here << to follow the beat, same like 00:30:770 (140,143,146) - you used kat to follow it The vocal is silent here, so I used don~
  4. 01:35:970 (150,151,152) - ddd. same like above mod changed to ddk instead~
  5. 01:43:970 (186,187,188,189,190,191,192) - kdddkkd is better than kddkddk ;w;// I hold this first~

goodluck nardo :3
Thanks for your mod Michael~ :D
Jikson[m9]

mingmichael wrote:

ming comes @w@//



Jik's Ura Oni
  1. 00:00:770 (3) - kat and 00:02:170 (7,8,9) - kdk << for the reason why i changed these you can see at Oni diff. because it is same~ There is a developing in melody here so I chose to keep the previous plainer to bring out the difference, reject kdk because it sounds weird when it comes to taiko sound
  2. 00:31:570 (131,137,141,144,145) - kat << i changed this to follow the beat sounds and for (144) and (145) i changed to be kats for clap (i don't know the name of those sounds lol) fixed the first three and kept the last two
  3. 00:34:770 (148) - big kat much better than big don fixed
  4. 00:48:770 (235) - finisher here, because the song gives finsiher sound at here D: fixed
  5. 01:59:170 (58) - ^ fixed
  6. 02:08:770 (103) - ^ kept
  7. start mapping again from 03:55:970 - :C the song still continues mapped something there
goodluck nardo :3
made some minor changes too, thanks for modding!
Jikson[m9]
A little amendment:

03:16:770 (106) - move to 03:16:770 (106) -. Thanks.
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

Jikson[m9] wrote:

A little amendment:

03:16:770 (106) - move to 03:16:770 (106) -. Thanks.
You mean moving to 03:16:570 ? Fixed.
Jikson[m9]

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Jikson[m9] wrote:

A little amendment:

03:16:770 (106) - move to 03:16:770 (106) -. Thanks.
You mean moving to 03:16:570 ? Fixed.

Oh yes. Many thanks
Yuzeyun
[Muzukashii]
Seems like your background is of lower quality (I see pixels. Might be me, but be sure to check out if you have a better quality pic somewhere in wallpaper sites, even the official site.)

The difficulty is quite easy and very close to Futsuu (in terms of difficulty), be sure to balance a bit more your mapset in those diffs.

00:05:770 (16,17,18,19,20,21) - Aside from 21 (which is mapped to the lyric), since you mapped all the notes to a repeating snare, why not reflecting this ? (all kats or at least an alternation between k and d.)
00:08:370 - I think you can add kats on those drums, it won't hurt !
00:08:570 (27) - If you applied ↑ : Change to don, so your kat will be stronger.
00:09:170 - Same as 00:08:370 -.
00:14:370 (42,44) - There's a small inconsistency here, 42 is as high-pitched as 44. I'd like to see the same note for both. Also there's a snare unmapped between those notes.
00:14:370 (42,43,44,45,46) - The detail of the best pattern to this part is that : http://puu.sh/4TTDQ.png -- it will take better the guitar and drums together.
00:19:370 (58) - I either accidentally moved this or you forgot to replace it right. I'll recommend moving to 00:19:570 - and cutting it until 00:19:970 - .
00:20:370 (59,60) - I understand a bit why these notes are here, but the first sounds a bit out of place. It might just be me !
00:22:370 (64,65,66) - I'd rather see dons there (and in most of the part following it) as the song almost strictly follows toms/kicks. Snares and what-vocals-you-want-to-be-mapped can be kats.
00:29:570 (89) - I don't understand much the meaning of this kat. No vocal, no snare.. Change to don ?
00:41:770 - Add a don there maybe ? It will make it groove a little bit more.
00:48:770 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162) - I think you'd separate a little bit these, act as if it was half BPM.
00:54:770 (163) - If you put don, I am certain your K at the end will be more pronounced.
00:56:370 - Add a kat, you know why xAx
00:56:970 - If you applied ^, add a don here for more groove ?
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01:05:770 - And here, I'd recommend adding a don for more groove. (1/2 before is possible too, up to you)
01:08:370 (18,19,20) - This pattern seems a bit strange.
01:18:170 (46,47) - Add a don between these notes ? (Same reason as the two other above)
01:21:370 (56,57) - ^ (Won't point out all those other 3/2 gaps, I'll end up saying the same.)
01:24:370 (63,64) - 63 should be mapped as k since there's a snare but since it's mapped to a vocal... Try to find a better compromise ? I'd go with kd, sometimes reverse pitch works well !
01:27:570 (71,72) - If you've mapped to the vocal there, why don't you make it 3x kat instead ? The verse ends in the middle.

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01:29:170 - I'd recommend putting a kat.. you know.
01:32:770 (83,84,85,86,87,88) - ddkd dkdd, as in the beginning.
01:39:170 (101,102,103,104,105) - Same ryhthm as in 00:14:370 (42,43,44,45,46) -
01:44:170 (115) - Same thing as in 00:19:370 (58) - (so that wasn't an accident)
01:56:570 (152) - Make it finisher ? 01:55:970 (150,155) - are finishers so why not this one ?
01:59:170 (160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175) - Same comment as in 00:48:770 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162) - (...So repetitive)
02:06:770 - Kat here ?
The kiai being the same, if you apply some things to the first kiai, make sure to do the same in the second. And third.
02:54:170 (99,101) - Since they're strong guitar strums, why don't you put finishers ?
02:57:170 - Here, despite the fact it's a snare, don would fit a bit better to how you've mapped this.
02:57:970 - Add a kat here, though. You can't let that pass !
03:00:370 - Add a kat here, as there is a snare. I am certain don does fit, but snare is better to me.
03:01:170 - Same as 02:57:970 -.
03:03:570 - Don here, it would fit better to your pattern. Kat sure would fit but sound a bit awkward.
03:04:370 - Aaaaaaand same as 03:01:170 -.
03:07:970 (136,137,138,139,140,141) - They're all the same sound (141 excepted), unify them ?
03:11:170 (144) - Big don right here, strong instrumental happens !
03:12:570 (145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154) - Well all of them have this, but not all will deserve them. I'd recommend putting on the most important ones, though.
The kiai being the same, if you apply some things to the first kiai, make sure to do the same in the second. And third. I just copypasted this line, yes.
03:53:570 (254,255,256,257,258,259) - ddkd dkdd, like the beginning. (would be a perfect loop ?)
03:59:970 (272,273,274,275,276) - ddkd dkd, like in the beginning.
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

_Gezo_ wrote:

[Muzukashii]
Seems like your background is of lower quality (I see pixels. Might be me, but be sure to check out if you have a better quality pic somewhere in wallpaper sites, even the official site.) fixed

The difficulty is quite easy and very close to Futsuu (in terms of difficulty), be sure to balance a bit more your mapset in those diffs.

00:05:770 (16,17,18,19,20,21) - Aside from 21 (which is mapped to the lyric), since you mapped all the notes to a repeating snare, why not reflecting this ? (all kats or at least an alternation between k and d.) used k k k d d k
00:08:370 - I think you can add kats on those drums, it won't hurt ! I don't want to add too much at the beginning, so retained.
00:08:570 (27) - If you applied ↑ : Change to don, so your kat will be stronger.
00:09:170 - Same as 00:08:370 -. fixed
00:14:370 (42,44) - There's a small inconsistency here, 42 is as high-pitched as 44. I'd like to see the same note for both. Also there's a snare unmapped between those notes. changed 42 to kat, kept the snare unmapped.
00:14:370 (42,43,44,45,46) - The detail of the best pattern to this part is that : http://puu.sh/4TTDQ.png -- it will take better the guitar and drums together. applied the second half.
00:19:370 (58) - I either accidentally moved this or you forgot to replace it right. I'll recommend moving to 00:19:570 - and cutting it until 00:19:970 - . I extended the slider a bit, making it from 00:19:170 to 00:19:970 , and deleted the note at 00:19:170 .
00:20:370 (59,60) - I understand a bit why these notes are here, but the first sounds a bit out of place. It might just be me ! I added a note at 00:20:170 to try to make it sound better.
00:22:370 (64,65,66) - I'd rather see dons there (and in most of the part following it) as the song almost strictly follows toms/kicks. Snares and what-vocals-you-want-to-be-mapped can be kats. changed 66 to don.
00:29:570 (89) - I don't understand much the meaning of this kat. No vocal, no snare.. Change to don ? The pitch of the piano is higher compared to 88, so retained.
00:41:770 - Add a don there maybe ? It will make it groove a little bit more. fixed
00:48:770 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162) - I think you'd separate a little bit these, act as if it was half BPM. I considered this issue while mapping the diff, but I want to map all the vocal there starting from Muzukashii diff.
00:54:770 (163) - If you put don, I am certain your K at the end will be more pronounced. fixed
00:56:370 - Add a kat, you know why xAx fixed
00:56:970 - If you applied ^, add a don here for more groove ? added a don at 00:56:770
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01:05:770 - And here, I'd recommend adding a don for more groove. (1/2 before is possible too, up to you) fixed
01:08:370 (18,19,20) - This pattern seems a bit strange. added dons at 01:08:770 and 01:08:970 , deleted 01:08:570
01:18:170 (46,47) - Add a don between these notes ? (Same reason as the two other above) fixed
01:21:370 (56,57) - ^ (Won't point out all those other 3/2 gaps, I'll end up saying the same.) fixed
01:24:370 (63,64) - 63 should be mapped as k since there's a snare but since it's mapped to a vocal... Try to find a better compromise ? I'd go with kd, sometimes reverse pitch works well ! fixed
01:27:570 (71,72) - If you've mapped to the vocal there, why don't you make it 3x kat instead ? The verse ends in the middle.
fixed
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01:29:170 - I'd recommend putting a kat.. you know. fixed
01:32:770 (83,84,85,86,87,88) - ddkd dkdd, as in the beginning. fixed as the above.
01:39:170 (101,102,103,104,105) - Same ryhthm as in 00:14:370 (42,43,44,45,46) - ^
01:44:170 (115) - Same thing as in 00:19:370 (58) - (so that wasn't an accident) fixed
01:56:570 (152) - Make it finisher ? 01:55:970 (150,155) - are finishers so why not this one ? fixed
01:59:170 (160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175) - Same comment as in 00:48:770 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162) - (...So repetitive) fixed, and kept vocal mapped.
02:06:770 - Kat here ? fixed
The kiai being the same, if you apply some things to the first kiai, make sure to do the same in the second. And third. Sure.
02:54:170 (99,101) - Since they're strong guitar strums, why don't you put finishers ? fixed
02:57:170 - Here, despite the fact it's a snare, don would fit a bit better to how you've mapped this. OK.
02:57:970 - Add a kat here, though. You can't let that pass ! fixed
03:00:370 - Add a kat here, as there is a snare. I am certain don does fit, but snare is better to me. fixed
03:01:170 - Same as 02:57:970 -. fixed
03:03:570 - Don here, it would fit better to your pattern. Kat sure would fit but sound a bit awkward. fixed
03:04:370 - Aaaaaaand same as 03:01:170 -. fixed
03:07:970 (136,137,138,139,140,141) - They're all the same sound (141 excepted), unify them ? umm... I will hold this first.
03:11:170 (144) - Big don right here, strong instrumental happens ! fixed
03:12:570 (145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154) - Well all of them have this, but not all will deserve them. I'd recommend putting on the most important ones, though. Retained to make a contrast to Futsuu.
The kiai being the same, if you apply some things to the first kiai, make sure to do the same in the second. And third. I just copypasted this line, yes.
03:53:570 (254,255,256,257,258,259) - ddkd dkdd, like the beginning. (would be a perfect loop ?) fixed as above
03:59:970 (272,273,274,275,276) - ddkd dkd, like in the beginning. ^
Thanks for your Muzu mod.
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