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Yuuki Aira - LAMENT ~Yagate Yorokobi wo~ (TV Size)

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Chloe
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2013年9月5日 at 21:30:33

Artist: Yuuki Aira
Title: LAMENT ~Yagate Yorokobi wo~ (TV Size)
Source: 伝説の勇者の伝説
Tags: The Legend of the Legendary Heroes Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu
BPM: 139
Filesize: 3791kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.21 stars, 91 notes)
  2. LAMENT (4.99 stars, 319 notes)
  3. Normal (4.16 stars, 147 notes)
Download: Yuuki Aira - LAMENT ~Yagate Yorokobi wo~ (TV Size)
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Umm... I like this story sooooooooooooooooo much.
Though I don't like the anime itself, still want to do something for it, so all diffs by me this time.
Hope you can enjoy it.!

Prologue
  
在这里,这是很平常的事……
  
“如果……如果我能够活着长大成人的话,你能和我结婚吗?”
    
亚麻色头发,长着一张端正脸庞的少女哭着说。
    
与之相对,少年那眼神却毫无干劲,柔和地回望少女那湿润的眼眸……但是在少年那眼神深处,总能感觉有些空虚的感情。
    
“如果能够活着长大成人的话……”
    
这是不可能的。
    
少年这么想。
    
不,也许少女也是这么认为的。
    
会死。
    
在这里的话……
    
这个孤儿院,被死亡的气息所充斥着。
    
被真正的死亡所充斥着。
    
就算是如此幼小的两人也能够轻易理解,世界被死亡所充斥着。
    
所以活着长大这件事……
    
少女低声呢喃。
    
“如果活着的话……和我……”
    
少年没有回答。
    
那少女的呢喃听上去是像一个无限渺茫的梦,如同幻想一样空洞。
    
“如果活着的话……和我……”
    
然而这话语就在这里被打断了。
    
那少女小小的肩膀,突然被一个身着黑色上衣的中年男性抓住,不由分说地拖走了。
    
“时间到了。不准再哭了。你已经不需要那种软弱的感情了。弱小就会死亡,很简单的道理。”
    
对。
    
就是这样简单。
    
我明白。
    
少女一瞬露出胆怯的表情。
    
“…………好的”
    
点了点头。
    
随后,悄悄地偷看了一次少年的脸。少年和平常一样,依然带着那双毫无干劲的柔和眼睛,沉默着。
    
看上去丝毫没有给予少女答案的意思……
    
“……”
    
是的。
    
我知道。
    
反正总是要死的,做那种约定一点意义都没有。
    
少女的表情冰冷了下来。
    
可能,再也不会笑了。
    
少女这么想。
    
“走吧。”
    
男人这么说着,少女迈开了脚步。
    
在毫无意义的道路上……
    
没有目标。
    
没有梦想。
    
没有希望。
    
从今天开始就成为这个男人的人偶。
    
扯线人偶。
    
就在这时——
    
“喂”
    
就在这时,少年说话了。
    
还是一如既往,欠缺霸气的声音,但是……
    
他就是用那种声音说
    
“你啊,太爱哭了。不要说自己会死。如果是你的话一定可以做到的,你很强壮。我也没有就这样死掉的打算。所以……”
    
少女蓦然回头。感情再一次回到她的脸上。
    
眼泪情不自禁溢了出来。
    
看了这个状况,少年露出一脸困惑,可还是微笑着……
    
“所以你不要死哦!”
    
“…………嗯!”
    
少女用力的点了头。
    
已然久远的幼小时的约定。
    
这个约定清晰地刻在少女的心中……
Lyric
TVアニメ「伝説の勇者の伝説」オープニングテーマ
LAMENT~やがて喜びを~
眠り解きあぐねて 君を見失い
壊したくなる今すべて
望む言葉が二度と聞けないなら
命さえ無為に差し出すでしょう
消えそうな輝きへと寄りそう想い
孤独だよ 私の元にも朝日が来るの?
答え…ふたりを繋ぐ愛があると
招かれた絶望の果てに立ち向かう
産まれて滅びる人の意識こそが
未来を選び 鍵を開ける
光り奪われても 時を走るだけ
失うための出会いなら
心引き裂く旅の終わりを読む
おかえりと笑う夢があった
懐かしさ忘れるには絆が重い
皮肉だね 同じ気持ちでも手が届かない
急いで…ふたりは違う空のなかに
傷付いたお互いを求め追い掛ける
いとしく哀しく人が生きた日々は
永遠を恋う 熱い祈り
もう扉が落ちるよ
高みへ駆け上がる道標
やがて昇る太陽
答えて…ふたりを繋ぐ愛がると
招かれた絶望の果てに立ち向かう
産まれて滅びる人の意識こそが
未来を選び 鍵を開ける

-おわり-
Topic Starter
Chloe
先防AR3
Fushimi Rio
这BG……我撸多了?
Fycho
先房
Topic Starter
Chloe

Eggache0 wrote:

这BG……我撸多了?
绝对是!
ax_pokl
From ax_pokl's Modding Queue
M4M Chindren's Song Remix.

[General]
Mp3>192kbps, you can use Goldwave or other software to make it 192kbps

[Easy]
Prefect!

[Normal+]
00:31:962 (1,2) - hard to read (red line or blue line, especially 1pc), use slider instead.
00:35:955 (1,2) - same, slider.

[Insane]
Well done!
(I think it is not hard enough to call a "Insane", if hp-1 and cs-1 then it would be a "Hard+")

Good map, good luck.

话说你没说用中文mod没看见就英文了。
Topic Starter
Chloe
all fixed 但是我不太清楚.... 这是M4M? ;__;
ax_pokl

Chloe wrote:

all fixed 但是我不太清楚.... 这是M4M? ;__;
饿,不是M4M,你不是都在我的Queue里发了2遍了么?
Topic Starter
Chloe

ax_pokl wrote:

Chloe wrote:

all fixed 但是我不太清楚.... 这是M4M? ;__;
饿,不是M4M,你不是都在我的Queue里发了2遍了么?
是啊....
M4M Chindren's Song Remix. 但是你这行快把我吓瘫 我以为我没懂你的rule 一看draining time 16分钟
zorefire
From queue
[Easy]
00:48:473 (1) - maybe you should let it flow in and delete this idk
[Normal+]
00:55:811 (1,2) - maybe more curve?
[LAMENT]
01:02:502 (5) - new combo
well that's all i got sorry for small mod :cry:
your maps are always so good
Sleepy Tori
[general]
none

[easy]
00:26:459 (1) - remove NC
01:15:236 (1) - ^
01:16:531 (3) - NC here

[normal+]
no problems

[LAMENT]
00:04:552 (1,2) - this sounds very bad and offbeat
00:39:840 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this looks like it was placed randomly. please reorganize it.

good luck
Topic Starter
Chloe
fixed almost in above two mods, thank you >w<
Jycool
[insane]
00:01:448 (4) - 尾巴加whistle 不过如果是我我就在这一段的红线上下whistle
00:04:577 (1,2) - 这里加两连效果不好,建议改了
00:21:304 (1,2,3,4) - 最好别都叠在一起
01:07:923 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 建议间距调成0.7,和之前的保持一致
01:26:268 (1) - 这个快速滑调不是很适合,你考虑一下
[normal]
00:16:124 (5) - 出版面了啊,你调整一下

感觉你进步了啊,好好搬砖 :)
Topic Starter
Chloe

jyc-Binggan wrote:

[insane]
00:01:448 (4) - 尾巴加whistle
00:21:304 (1,2,3,4) - 最好别都叠在一起

[normal]
00:16:124 (5) - 出版面了啊,你调整一下

感觉你进步了啊,好好搬砖 :)

改了这三 谢mod 我先去搬一波砖
Regou
Hi~
[General]
Normal+這名太2了,儘管難了點還是叫Normal吧你看沒屁股的

[Hard]
建議OD-1,不然可能會被噴diff spread...
00:43:750 (2,3,4) - 可以排整齊點
00:51:520 (1,2,3) - 這間距應該比00:52:383 (1,2,3) - 還小才對啊
00:59:074 (3) - whistle? 另外00:58:642 (1,2,3,4) - 排整齊點
01:06:520 (2,3,1,2,1,2) - 爲了diff spread請改掉
01:14:829 (1) - Whistle?
Topic Starter
Chloe

Regou wrote:

Hi~
[General]
Normal+這名太2了,儘管難了點還是叫Normal吧你看沒屁股的

[Hard]
建議OD-1,不然可能會被噴diff spread... 想了下先保留
00:43:750 (2,3,4) - 可以排整齊點 让想想 整齐了好像没这样舒服
00:51:520 (1,2,3) - 這間距應該比00:52:383 (1,2,3) - 還小才對啊
00:59:074 (3) - whistle? 另外00:58:642 (1,2,3,4) - 排整齊點 hao
01:06:520 (2,3,1,2,1,2) - 爲了diff spread請改掉 我感觉还行 看看BAT咋说先
01:14:829 (1) - Whistle?
thank you for mod >w<
Hollow Wings
random mod
LAMENT
00:20:441 (5) - reverse
00:21:628 (2,3) - 还是放远比较好
00:24:433 (9) - 尾向右下
00:27:347 (5) - 弄弯?
00:32:527 (9) - reverse
00:37:707 (1) - 这滑条拉的
00:39:218 (7) - 为何靠那么近?放远或者reverse

二连似乎都在第三排白线,不过放的也挺随意,比如00:33:822 (1) - 就没有,其他没啥要说的
Normal
00:52:383 (1) - 这也太高了。。。
01:18:714 (1,2) - 节奏改成先2后1,排列调整下

...
Easy
00:44:074 (3) - 真心第一次看到easy放蓝线,不知道大丈夫
00:50:441 (3,4) - 虽然判定松但是这个蓝线。。。有00:48:498 (1,2) - 在前面,不知道新手打着感觉如何
个人建议这种低难度蓝线还是作滑条尾处理(不过我几乎不玩easy所以嘛感觉无所谓就无视好了

...
这玩意我是开5倍速看完的,烂尾不能多说,主要看女王的sm play

good luck
CET 6
刚开始mod 如有冒犯请见谅~ :D

Easy

节奏好((不过感觉排列好像有点随意了- -
感觉可以用 CS 2
00:11:592 (3) 这个感觉不重叠比较好
00:30:800 (4,1,2) 这里的排列看起来有点···


Normal

00:11:592 (5) 或许可以往后移到白线然后在00:11:592 红线上加个note
00:15:261 (3,4,5) 这个排列有点···00:15:261 (3,5) 如果弄成对称会不比较好看
00:18:282 (2) 00:20:225 (2) 感觉弄成直滑条比较好看 或者把00:18:282 (2,3,4,1,2) 排得圆一些
00:39:002 (1) 或许可以移到 x:184 y:32 左右 让00:37:707 (4) 包住 然后00:39:433 (2) 在调整一下
00:56:700 (2,3,4) 感觉有点···(可能是我有对称强迫症···00:56:700 (2,4) 感觉如果对称可能更好看
01:10:513 (2,3,4) 同上


LAMENT

00:05:117 (4) 这个是想要做距离渐远吗?感觉00:04:901 (3,4,5) 弄成对称三角比较好看
00:21:304 (1,2,3) 感觉有点点坑 间距感觉可能可以调大点
00:32:527 (9) 感觉尾巴可以往上提一下
00:41:376 (8) 这个突然跳了,或许前面的间距可以大点免得不适应突然跳开
00:46:124 (1) 坑坑
00:58:858 (2,3,4) 又一个渐变 不过这里如果改了后面也要动···还是喜欢对称三角形XD



大概就这样 请多指教! :)
Topic Starter
Chloe
will check it later... just back and I'm going to sleeping now
Topic Starter
Chloe
Hollow Wings

Hollow Wings wrote:

random mod
00:21:628 (2,3) - 还是放远比较好 改成了一坨
00:27:347 (5) - 弄弯?

CET 6

CET 6 wrote:

Normal

00:11:592 (5) 或许可以往后移到白线然后在00:11:592 红线上加个note
00:39:002 (1) 或许可以移到 x:184 y:32 左右 让00:37:707 (4) 包住 然后00:39:433 (2) 在调整一下


LAMENT

00:05:117 (4) 这个是想要做距离渐远吗?感觉00:04:901 (3,4,5) 弄成对称三角比较好看
00:21:304 (1,2,3) 感觉有点点坑 间距感觉可能可以调大点
00:46:124 (1) 坑坑
00:58:858 (2,3,4) 又一个渐变 不过这里如果改了后面也要动···还是喜欢对称三角形XD



大概就这样 请多指教! :)

改了这些 thank you for modding :D
Axey
其实我觉得我比你小呀

LAMENT

感觉和第一张比进步很多

00:01:448(4)-我觉得不用加折返,后面再加个一样的slider
00:03:822(6,1)- (6)最好和前面(5)的尾和(1)形成个正三角形的样子 就是距离都相等
00:04:901(3,4,5,6)- 就是间距从小变大我觉得比较好玩 差不多下面那样

00:08:354(3,4,5,6)- 这边也是,弄成个正三角形的样子
00:10:405(3,4)- 这个会不会远了点
00:10:944(6)- 我反而觉得(6)的地方可以和(5)远一点 稍微小跳一下 然后(6)-add nc
00:14:829(2)-从这里每隔一条白线加个clap 举个例子就是下个放clap音在00:15:692- 反正第2,4根白线就下clap 觉得不合适再删
00:49:577(2)-换成一条没折返一样长度的slider
00:51:520(1)- ~ 00:54:541(2)- 虽然是最高难度怎么跳都ok..但是我还是希望能跟着timeline上的长短来决定跳的近远的程度
00:55:405(1,2,3,4,5)-其实我觉得(1)~(4)可以不nc 到(5)再nc
01:06:843(1,2,1,2)-这..突然跳那么远有点
01:14:829(1)-~01:16:556(x)-我觉得这样下节奏比较好


Normal

音效和最高难度一样下

00:23:031(1)-拉到后面的白线就可以了 然后在00:23:894(2)-add note
00:52:383(1)-这个太高了啊..都碰到血条了
01:00:153(3)-建议换成note 01:00:585(4)-add note
01:00:016(1)-换成slider 拉到 01:01:448- 后面红线add note
01:05:980(4)-应该移到前面根白线上比较好
01:13:966(3,4,5)-和之前改法相同
Topic Starter
Chloe

BakaHuang wrote:

其实我觉得我比你小呀 o3o na hao huang mei mei !

感觉和第一张比进步很多 hao dai ye rank le liang zhang tu le /.\
wo zanshi da bu chu zhongwen ..... you dian bei ai
Topic Starter
Chloe
bad map D:
anyone who had downloaded it, plz delete it.
Princess God
K,说好的mod,不好意思这么晚才来上交
Easy
00:11:592 (3) - 拉出两个折返大概能好些
00:27:347 (4) - 摆到靠右上角的位置
00:27:995 (1) - 要不再试试拉出两个折返?我个人觉得真的非常合适
00:46:772 (3) - 去掉折返,并在00:47:203 重新拉一个滑条
00:51:843 (1,2) - easy难度放蓝线物件,丧心病狂啊(跪),感觉00:52:383~00:54:973可以加一个转盘
01:02:743 (2,3) - 建议摆正……
01:06:196~01:08:786建议换成转盘……对于真·easy玩家这一段太难了……
Normal
00:25:620 (4) - nc
00:52:383 (1) - 将滑条缩短至00:52:815,然后在原来结束的地方加一个note,我觉得normal就不必那么拘谨啦~
00:58:642 (1) - 改成三连点单如何?01:12:455 (1) - 也是一个意见
01:23:894 (1,2,3,1,2,1) - 直接flip vertically感觉能与前面对称一下,不然有些单调啊……
总的来说第一区间和第四区间还是有些空旷啊
LAMENT
00:04:577 (1,2) - 移到00:04:254,并变成三连,然后在00:04:685加一个note
00:21:304 (1,2,3) - 还是改成有些间距的排列吧……
00:26:808 (2,3,4) - 改成00:26:915~00:27:131的一个滑条,可塑性绝对强~
00:59:290 (4) - 改成一个滑条吧
01:07:923 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 直接大点间距好了
01:26:700 (1) - 试试放到第一区间内?
综述:这个难度感觉二连的地方处理得太单调啦,都是原地双击,试着用滑条来替换一部分吧~
这真是首好歌啊,希望能被rank
Kinomi
咕噜噜噜噜
as your req
will edit later

General
0.0,spread 会不会有问题,normal直接跳insane

Easy
00:05:980 (1) - finish,BGM有
00:11:592 (3) - 不要叠
00:42:887 (1) - easy 不要叠了啊
00:55:405 (1) - ^
01:06:843 (1,2,1,2) - ^

Normal
fine,就是一串单点中间混着蓝线节奏对新人不太友好
改成滑条比较好

LAMENT
00:21:304 (1,2,3,4,5) - 不建议叠啊,有个在蓝线,摆散点好一点
00:43:534 (1,2,3,4,5) - 类似这样的位置顺序表现力感觉会更强一点,pattern随便摆的你可以摆个更好看的,主要是2,3,4,5 Z字形,4和5之间间距拉大
01:20:656 (5,1) - 跳一下是不是好一点
01:23:894 (2) - 改成kick slider怎么样关于这个我觉得可以参考一下这张图

RLC难度第一个break前面的那个节奏,感觉那图可以抄不少蓝线节奏

摸不出什么了啊就这样>.<
Nymph
[LAMENT]
01:20:872 (1) - 这之后的几个slider变速感觉十分违和,代表的就是这个slider 然后就是01:26:268 (2) - ,个人感觉玩起来奇葩的一比

[Normal]
00:11:592 (5,6,7) - 下三连打在normal是说的过去了 不过这跟前面的note叠在一起的话 test时候的spacing显得相当奇葩

00:23:031 (1,2,3) - 这如果按vocal来的话应该是长白线起slider 下三连打我实在是不怎么明白 玩起来手感也很疼

00:54:110 (3) - 不太明白5%音量的理由啊 而且5%加finish+clap是骗鬼吗

01:20:872 (2,3,4) - 就像以前说过的

01:26:700 (1) - 挪出去其实好读不少 尤其是对于一个normal来说

说真的啊我真的觉得这diff不合格 改改啊 现在玩起来太烦人了
Topic Starter
Chloe
Nymph

Nymph wrote:

[LAMENT]
01:20:872 (1) - 这之后的几个slider变速感觉十分违和,代表的就是这个slider 然后就是01:26:268 (2) - ,个人感觉玩起来奇葩的一比

[Normal]
00:11:592 (5,6,7) - 下三连打在normal是说的过去了 不过这跟前面的note叠在一起的话 test时候的spacing显得相当奇葩

00:23:031 (1,2,3) - 这如果按vocal来的话应该是长白线起slider 下三连打我实在是不怎么明白 玩起来手感也很疼

00:54:110 (3) - 不太明白5%音量的理由啊 而且5%加finish+clap是骗鬼吗

01:20:872 (2,3,4) - 就像以前说过的

01:26:700 (1) - 挪出去其实好读不少 尤其是对于一个normal来说

说真的啊我真的觉得这diff不合格 改改啊 现在玩起来太烦人了

all fixed in normal :D also thx others' mods but seems all reject except a NC check by NPG ↓↓↓

Normal
00:25:620 (4) - nc
Nymph
discussed with the mapper to fix the normal diff a little bit, and lower the AR on easy by -1

bubbled.
Topic Starter
Chloe

Nymph wrote:

discussed with the mapper to fix the normal diff a little bit, and lower the AR on easy by -1

bubbled.
/me kisses Nymph and runs away.
pw384
what the _____
Melophobia
Source : 伝説の勇者の伝説
Artist Unicode : 結城アイラ

This set really needs a real Hard diff. Difficulty spread is really bad and LAMENT diff is way too hard to be called "Hard", because :
00:10:081 (2,3,4,5) - Random spacing such as this pattern is unreadable for hard-level players because the ostensible spacing never tells its actual rhythm.
01:06:196 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - Way too intense considering the level of this difficulty. And the stream is also way too hard even though the bpm is low.
01:20:872 (1) - An unexpectable speed change which doesn't really represent the melody.
01:26:268 (2) - ^
I'm not asking you to fix these things up because they're all fine if the difficulty spread is decent. But that could be just me, so I would like to get your input first. If you can explain how they are fine then I don't mind restoring the bubble. For now popping for wrong source and artist unicode. Forum PM me for recheck.
Topic Starter
Chloe

Melophobia wrote:

Source : 伝説の勇者の伝説
Artist Unicode : 結城アイラ
ok, already fixed these two

Melophobia wrote:

This set really needs a real Hard diff. Difficulty spread is really bad and LAMENT diff is way too hard to be called "Hard"

I'm not asking you to fix these things up because they're all fine if the difficulty spread is decent. But that could be just me, so I would like to get your input first. If you can explain how they are fine then I don't mind restoring the bubble. For now popping for wrong source and artist unicode. Forum PM me for recheck.
uh.. not only you, also there're other bats and modders said it's not a good spread with some patterns on LAMENT.
As my thought, my Diff spread is Easy+/Nomal+/Hard+, but I nerfed the normal diff for some reasons. anyway, I'll wait for your recheck and get your opinion on my thought first.

http://puu.sh/4dLqw.png http://puu.sh/4dLr2.png is hard for a easy player, and http://puu.sh/4dLsq.png http://puu.sh/4dLtn.png is also hard for a normal player.
Melophobia
Ok then, I'm now fine with this spread. Thank you for the explanation. Let the next BAT decide.
Topic Starter
Chloe

Melophobia wrote:

Ok then, I'm now fine with this spread. Thank you for the explanation. Let the next BAT decide.
thank you for help and understanding.
Nyquill
We fixed a slider that was covered by hitburst and amended some hitsounding.

ehhhhh the slider speed increases while I don't like that much can be played properly since the sliders are short enough so that you don't get screwed anyways.

Fine
HabiHolic
nice job!

gratz!
Topic Starter
Chloe

Nyquill wrote:

We fixed a slider that was covered by hitburst and amended some hitsounding.

ehhhhh the slider speed increases while I don't like that much can be played properly since the sliders are short enough so that you don't get screwed anyways.

Fine
hhh, my map is always awkward in some place , but I like my map style ;)

Thank you for heart!
Also thx for those modders/supporters and Nymph's bubbled/Melo's rebubbled/NoHitter's help in improvement(though I don't agree sth in LAMENT diff).

HabiHolic wrote:

nice job!

gratz!
thx
Kinomi
哇,好
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