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Masato Nakamura - Eggman's Theme [OsuMania]

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Loooctav
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on sábado, 13 de julio de 2013 at 18:03:47

Artist: Masato Nakamura
Title: Eggman's Theme
Source: Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Tags: Sega Team Eggman Sonic Tails Knuckles
BPM: 133
Filesize: 1003kb
Play Time: 00:35
Difficulties Available:
  1. Knuckles - 4Key (2,57 stars, 65 notes)
  2. Sonic - 4Key (4,54 stars, 154 notes)
  3. Tails - 4Key (3,52 stars, 104 notes)
Download: Masato Nakamura - Eggman's Theme
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Remap o3o, In osu!mania :D

Delete 'Eggman' Diff, Because i have many problems with the diff Sorry
Irreversible
Hi!

[General]

I've read the osu!mania rules, and I THINK it's okay, i'm not sure though xD

:shock: This mod is only based on personal feelings, i am not an osu!mania player. :shock:

[EZ]

00:00:265 (265|3) - Slider's like these don't have any hitsound, i don't know how - it sounds a bit weird, try to fix that otherwise the rhythm seems broken
00:11:092 (11092|2,11994|1) - Why do these have hitsounds? I like that. Please make every slider, or however these are called with hitsounsd.
00:13:798 (13798|3) - What about column 3?
00:14:249 (14249|0) - What about column 2? like this:

00:16:505 (16505|2) - What about this pattern:

00:21:468 (21468|2) - This note seems not necessary
00:23:723 (23723|1,24174|2,24625|2,25077|1) - Try to get a better pattern? left right or something, seems funnier
00:33:648 (33648|2,34099|0) - Try this!


[NM]

This diff is funny! I'm not a fan of this slider and then you have to press a circle, this is weird! (00:22:144 (22144|1,23046|2,23949|2,24851|1) - )


00:02:746 (2746|3) - This note confuses me very much, delete please
00:06:242 (6242|0) - Same here!

Btw, please fix this hitsound thing, it's very confusing!

[MX]

This diff flows very cool! But this hitsound thing is so so so annoying. (with the slider)

I haven't got to say anything here

[HD]

This diff is too hard for me... xDD I'm sorry, i try to mod it when i'm better :P


I hope i could help you, thoommy!!
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Topic Starter
Loooctav
Thanks a lot! almost fixed ... i work in hitsounds
woc2006
A quick check.
Offset -6ms
Volume: 40%

EZ:
HP6 OD7
Which instruments are these holds stand for?

NM:
HP6 OD7
00:09:738 (9738|3) - move to 00:09:964 (9964|3) - and add note at 00:09:738 (9738|2) - . The same to 00:13:347 (13347|3) -
00:28:686 (28686|0,28686|3) - remove
00:34:550 (34550|3,34550|0,35001|2,35001|1) - Change to normal notes.

HD:
Change name to MX, HP 7

MX:
Change name to HD
Topic Starter
Loooctav
ty~
i change others names :3
Sonic - Tails - Knuckels And Eggman
Yuzeyun
I only played the Eggman diff so far, I'll see for a modding later. I have felt some empty spaces due to the release of held notes, if you could add notes. A small question however :
Was it mapped in StepMania chart's style ? If yes, I will give a bit of help since I am myself a SM mapper. (really)
17VA
Well, I Like Sonic, and I Like this music.

00:02:069 (2069|3) -

I think this way might be better.

http://puu.sh/3xfN8.png-> http://puu.sh/3xfKR.png

Because there are sound exist.

00:05:678 (5678|0) -

^

00:12:896 (12896|0) -

These parts might be annoying for o!m user.

00:21:806 (21806|2) -

^

00:23:723 (23723|0) -

^

00:25:528 (25528|3) -

^

00:29:137 (29137|2) -

^

00:30:941 (30941|1) -

^

00:32:746 (32746|2) -

^

00:34:550 (34550|2) -

^
Topic Starter
Loooctav
ty for mod ! (:
xxbidiao
21:40 ThoomyyxD: Heyyy!!
21:40 ThoomyyxD: You mod osu!mania?!
21:40 xxbidiao: yeah~
21:41 ThoomyyxD: you can check me mapa?
21:41 ThoomyyxD: Map*
21:41 ThoomyyxD: Irc?
21:41 xxbidiao: it's OK~
21:41 *ThoomyyxD is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/268059 Masato Nakamura - Eggman's Theme]
21:41 ThoomyyxD: you can now?
21:42 ThoomyyxD: Irc now you can?
21:43 xxbidiao: Actually I found some problems :(
21:44 xxbidiao: I don't recommend the mapping style in this map ._.
21:44 ThoomyyxD: what style?
21:45 xxbidiao: firstly, 00:00:265 (265|3,265|2) -
21:45 ThoomyyxD: what diff?
21:45 xxbidiao: oh I missed that
21:45 *xxbidiao is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/268511 Masato Nakamura - Eggman's Theme]
21:45 xxbidiao: eggman diff
21:45 ThoomyyxD: mmmDouble circles?
21:46 xxbidiao: 00:00:265 (265|3,265|2) - I don't recommend placing 2 notes when there are only 1 main sound in the BGM.
21:46 xxbidiao: It is considered overmapping and should be used with great care :)
21:46 ThoomyyxD: http://puu.sh/3yEcr.png
21:47 ThoomyyxD: ^ Better so?
21:47 ThoomyyxD: Is that better?
21:47 xxbidiao: I recommend making that all single notes, or making that more interesting besides single or doubles.
21:48 xxbidiao: there are no 1/1 sound there, isn't it?
21:48 xxbidiao: oh, wrong grammar :(
21:49 ThoomyyxD: yeah
21:49 xxbidiao: next, 00:05:678 (5678|0) -
21:49 ThoomyyxD: http://puu.sh/3yEhR.png
21:49 ThoomyyxD: is that better? ^
21:50 xxbidiao: it's better and you may take pitch relevance into consideration :)
21:51 xxbidiao: although there are only 2 different sound, you may make some creative thing here =w=
21:51 ThoomyyxD: :3
21:51 xxbidiao: I may consider 1/8 slider but whether this style is good depends on everyone's thought.
21:52 ThoomyyxD: o3o
21:52 ThoomyyxD: ammd
21:52 xxbidiao: 00:05:678 (5678|0) -
21:52 ThoomyyxD: aboutt 00:05:678 (5678|0)
21:52 ThoomyyxD: http://puu.sh/3yEmo.png
21:52 ThoomyyxD: so?
21:52 xxbidiao: Actually osu!mania don't snap slider end on any sound in most cases...
21:53 ThoomyyxD: http://puu.sh/3yEmo.png
21:53 ThoomyyxD: better?
21:54 xxbidiao: I would give a puush image too, wait a minute :)
21:54 ThoomyyxD: o3oo
21:54 ThoomyyxD: t/131375
21:54 ThoomyyxD: You want me mod?
21:55 ThoomyyxD: call to wock2006 for Check, there give you Bubble (Probably)
21:55 xxbidiao: wait a minute
21:56 xxbidiao: yeah, that's OK, feel free to mod it :)
21:56 ThoomyyxD: 8:
21:56 xxbidiao: I should have prepared a paint program x_x
21:56 ThoomyyxD: lol
21:57 xxbidiao: http://puu.sh/3yEuW.png
21:57 xxbidiao: something like this may be better~
21:57 ThoomyyxD: o3o!!!!!!
21:57 ThoomyyxD: wtf!? xD
21:58 ThoomyyxD: 00:05:678 (05678|0)?
21:58 xxbidiao: this is a representation of relative position, you may change the position according to earlier and later part.
21:58 xxbidiao: yeah
21:58 xxbidiao: after the double part
21:58 xxbidiao: the original double note part
21:58 ThoomyyxD: ok
21:59 xxbidiao: And the same to the later doubles, and
21:59 xxbidiao: 00:05:678 the same to here, but the BGM has changed somehow, you may take notice of that?
21:59 xxbidiao: Oh the picture is 00:02:069 (2069|3) -
22:00 ThoomyyxD: WAIT
22:00 xxbidiao: not 05:678
22:00 ThoomyyxD: update
22:00 ThoomyyxD: check please
22:01 xxbidiao: Oh the 2nd second part is what I mean ._.
22:01 xxbidiao: 00:02:069 (2069|3) - use the picture
22:02 xxbidiao: 00:05:678 (5678|3) - you can use the picture too but there are some change
22:03 xxbidiao: http://puu.sh/3yEGB.png
22:04 ThoomyyxD: o3o
22:04 xxbidiao: I will enclose the time stamp on the later mod :)
22:04 ThoomyyxD: I have to go ... Goodbye, I posted for his kudo
22:04 xxbidiao: ok, I'll make some addition in this song's post later.



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00:08:949 (8949|2) - actually no sound here and it is extremely strange to overmap here. removing this and move nearby notes is a good idea.
00:10:753 (10753|1) - ^
00:12:558 (12558|0) - ^ (There are more occurance, I will not point them out here)
00:12:896 (12896|0) - This 2 1/4 hits are really strange. And you mapped bass(?) instead of drums here. For consistency (There are few reasons to make such big changes) making these bass sliders and map drums. You may refer to the change at 2nd and 5th second.
(Also more occurence later)
00:13:798 (13798|0) - I suggest making this part(13798~14701) not so empty.
00:14:701 (14701|3) - This slider may have ended in a wrong place, check it up. (You may consider splitting this slider into a few sliders)
00:16:731 (16731|0) - ^
00:29:024 (29024|2,29137|2) - If this is not intended, I would suggest not making them on the same column. Some suggestions include moving the 2nd col note into 3rd, or just erase it.
I suggest mapping both bass and drum in the later part. This may change the map dramatically, it's up to you (and your creation :) )
ExPew
Hello, few suggestion :3

[Knuckles]

-nthg

[Tails]

00:02:520 - add a note on 4
00:03:422 - ^ on 1
00:06:129 - ^ on 1
00:07:031 - ^ on 4
00:13:798 - ^
00:14:701 - ^
00:21:919 (21919|3,22144|1,22821|0,23046|2,23723|1,23949|2,24625|2,24851|1) - bit weird on this pattern
00:35:452 (35452|0,35452|3,35452|2,35452|1) - too noisy here.

[Sonic]


00:02:520 - add a note on 1
00:03:422 - ^ on 4
00:06:129 - ^ on 4
00:07:031 - ^ on 1
00:11:092 (11092|1,11543|2,11994|0,12445|3) - add a note every end hold
00:16:505 (16505|3,16956|0,17407|2,17858|1) - ^
00:23:723 (23723|1,24174|2,24625|0,25077|3) - ^
00:27:332 (27332|3,27783|2,28234|1,28686|0) - ^
00:30:941 (30941|3,31392|0,31843|2,32295|1) - ^

[Eggman]

00:02:520 - add 2 note on 2,3
00:03:422 - ^ on 1,4
00:16:505 - add a note?
00:18:310 - ^
Topic Starter
Loooctav
Ty for mods! :D
DakeDekaane
Removed some overmapped notes and made some changes in EZ (Knucles), made the finish consistent in all diffs too. I'm not an expert in mania, but he told me to.

IRC log
21:27 ThoomyyxD: me haces IRC?
21:28 ThoomyyxD: Irc porfa <3
21:35 DakeDekaane: pues creo te dare estrella, nadamas te dire algunas cosas en la mas dificil
21:35 DakeDekaane: la siento muy overmapeada
21:36 ThoomyyxD: Overmapeada?
21:36 DakeDekaane: que tienes notas de mas
21:36 ThoomyyxD: oh..
21:36 ThoomyyxD: Me dices cuales?
21:36 ThoomyyxD: Sonic es el Hard óóéétýý
21:37 ThoomyyxD: Mejor yo le hago cambios :3
21:37 DakeDekaane: 00:08:610 (8610|3,8723|2,8836|3,8949|2,9061|3,9174|2,9287|1) - por ejemplo en esa parte, la 4a nota de ahi se oye rara, pq las percusiones va en puro triple de 1/4
21:37 DakeDekaane: y creo es lo unico
21:37 DakeDekaane: que puedo ver map
21:37 DakeDekaane: mal*
21:38 ThoomyyxD: esta con hitsound ;w;
21:38 DakeDekaane: 00:08:949 (8949|2) - a esta me refiero
21:38 ThoomyyxD: la elimino?
21:39 DakeDekaane: pues yo diria que si, te digo que se oye algo rara
21:39 ThoomyyxD: En que diff es eso?
21:39 DakeDekaane: Eggman
21:39 ThoomyyxD: ._.
21:39 ThoomyyxD: ese es el insane
21:39 DakeDekaane: por eso
21:39 DakeDekaane: dije en la mas dificil
21:39 DakeDekaane: :v
21:39 ThoomyyxD: si, la elimine
21:39 ThoomyyxD: tienes razon
21:40 ThoomyyxD: Entendí en "Difícil xd
21:40 DakeDekaane: y en la facil
21:40 DakeDekaane: Knucles
21:40 ThoomyyxD: Escribe eso como mod y te doy kudo
21:40 ThoomyyxD: Para mi fue útil
21:40 ThoomyyxD: porque un bat me iba a hacer eliminarla xd
21:40 DakeDekaane: 00:00:265 (265|3,716|1) - siento que debes añadir una nota en la columna rosa al final del hold
21:40 DakeDekaane: o
21:40 DakeDekaane: hacer un hold en la nota rosa
21:41 DakeDekaane: siento que seria mas comodo
21:41 ThoomyyxD: mm
21:41 ThoomyyxD: en la segunda igual?
21:41 DakeDekaane: http://puu.sh/3zXKg.png o http://puu.sh/3zXLs.png
21:41 DakeDekaane: yo lo siento mas facil de jugar
21:42 DakeDekaane: no soy experto de mania
21:42 DakeDekaane: :p
21:42 ThoomyyxD: me gusta
21:42 ThoomyyxD: en que diff xD?
21:42 DakeDekaane: en Knuckles
21:43 DakeDekaane: ah y otra cosita que me acabo de dar cuenta, terminas Knuckles y Tails un poco despues que las otras dos
21:43 ThoomyyxD: oh
21:44 ThoomyyxD: dejame termianr con estgo
21:45 ThoomyyxD: pega el log
21:45 DakeDekaane: ok
21:45 *DakeDekaane is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/268060 Masato Nakamura - Eggman's Theme [Tails]]
21:45 DakeDekaane: adsf
Topic Starter
Loooctav
Thank you DakeBakeJakeNakeKnucklessuscribetegeroteamoNakebakeDekaane
chonicle
mod by request.
[Knuckles]
\:D/

[Tails]
00:03:874 (3874|2,4325|2,4776|1,5227|1) - put notes like 00:00:265 (265|0,490|1,716|0,1167|3,1392|2,1618|3) to increase consistancy.
00:09:738 (9738|3,9738|0) - end at 00:10:189

[Sonic]
\:D/

[Eggman]
This diff is a little overmapped since I see notes not corresponding to any note in the music.
00:14:701 - add a note on the left hand
00:16:731 (16731|0) - this synth should start at 16:505
00:21:919 (21919|2,21919|1) - move to 1st and 4th column

Overall I don't think I can bubble this ;w; It would be better to follow one instrument and avoid adding notes when there is no corresponding sound
Topic Starter
Loooctav
Thank you very much! All fixed :D
Topic Starter
Loooctav
fucking double post, /me runs*

Delete Eggman diff, for problems, can not fix redownlading :/ Sorry
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