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gameon123321
I think it's important to have a warmup. Make sure to have something for consistency, if nothing else. Jumping and rhythm-based beatmaps are good too. My advice:

Consistency (Long beatmap that is a challenge [For example (all examples are for a player that plays hard maps)https://osu.ppy.sh/s/9183Pro])
Rhythm (an example of a rhythem you might want would be 1-e-and 2-and-a 3-and 4 [Example:https://osu.ppy.sh/s/28107galv x kriers])
Jumping (Farther than what would be warranted by distance spacing [Example:[url]https://osu.ppy.sh/s/28894[/urlJumping])

Of course, a good warmup isn't everything. A bad player could warm up all he wants and stilll wouldn't be able to play an insane beatmap.
Antero
So i got a serious question about what should i focus on right now. Short story first, i started playing about 4 or 5 months ago and i drilled the craziest maps until i racked up 20k playcounts. Now my aim with the tablet is pretty good and i can read AR10 with absolutely no problem but my problem is with my left hand. I drilled the freedom dive practice map like crazy but i cannot play slow maps at all and my accuracy sucks. Did i hit a point of no return and completely screwed up my chances of being good or can i still learn everything if i go back to slower maps and actually fix my left hand?
Bweh

Antero wrote:

So i got a serious question about what should i focus on right now. Short story first, i started playing about 4 or 5 months ago and i drilled the craziest maps until i racked up 20k playcounts. Now my aim with the tablet is pretty good and i can read AR10 with absolutely no problem but my problem is with my left hand. I drilled the freedom dive practice map like crazy but i cannot play slow maps at all and my accuracy sucks. Did i hit a point of no return and completely screwed up my chances of being good or can i still learn everything if i go back to slower maps and actually fix my left hand?
You can always go back and fix your left hand.

I think I was in the same boat as you at some point, but it's not impossible to fix. All you need to do is increase your variety in maps.

It's good to play crazy maps so you can improve your speed, stamina, and aim, but it's not good to neglect slower maps. Otherwise you'll only be able to play hard maps comfortably, your reading will remain subpar, and you'll probably never learn how to accuracy properly.

Just play slower maps. At first play simple maps that are around 150 bpm. Even better if they have streams (like Eiji Kuinbii). You'll probably overstream a lot at first, but don't let that discourage you. Try to play some AR 8. Older maps, usually from 2011 or 2010 tend to use AR 8. Work your way up to 160, then 170, and so forth. If necessary, kriers suggested one ought to push their wrist onto their keyboard so that you can only use your fingers to stream, which immoblizes the wrist. This will force you to stream slower.

It's never too late to go back and fix it. Just try to make your first warmup maps slow maps and then make your way up to faster ones. Keep it mixed.
buny
having a high speed doesn't mean you can't do slow speeds
just practice lower bpms and you'll be good at both of them.

also learning how to alternate higher bpm maps helps with slow streams too
Thatgooey

Antero wrote:

So i got a serious question about what should i focus on right now. Short story first, i started playing about 4 or 5 months ago and i drilled the craziest maps until i racked up 20k playcounts. Now my aim with the tablet is pretty good and i can read AR10 with absolutely no problem but my problem is with my left hand. I drilled the freedom dive practice map like crazy but i cannot play slow maps at all and my accuracy sucks. Did i hit a point of no return and completely screwed up my chances of being good or can i still learn everything if i go back to slower maps and actually fix my left hand?
Make yourself play Nyancat like 100 times. I am still playing this map daily, and the better that I get at it, the better I get at everything else. I make a point to play it every single day while warming up. You will feel muscles you didn't know you used to play in your forearm because of how slow and deliberate the stream speed is. It was hard to aim and follow the streams at first as well. I, too, have this problem where I can read AR10 better than any AR. Nyancat is AR8 and that approach rate is highly uncomfortable for me, because I can't just play with reflexes. I have to actually READ the map, and follow it. And I can't just wiggle my fingers really fast and get the streams right, either. The streams are slow enough to where I could probably single tap, but that would obviously get really tiring really fast. The song is VERY consistent, and once the melody gets drilled into your head, you will be able to start following with your left hand a little bit better. I made a post a page or two back about starting slow, and this is an example that I think would help you specifically. Here is the map: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/31419 if you are unfamiliar with it. If you are, then I highly recommend that you use it to train. Spend like a whole playing session on it one day, and then keep playing it at least once a day all the way through for a good two weeks. Turn on nofail if you have to (you probably will need it at first). Hope this helps!
Soulg
Wow that's actually a really good map for practicing streams, thanks ;D


Now to build finger stamina...
Fenarth
Tablet came in the mail today, so much easier its crazy

Passed my first insane with a C 10% on my performance bar at one point, really sloppy but still made me happy

I feel like i'm not getting good fast enough, picked up this game because irl friends play it and they are so much better ;_;
enik

Fenarth wrote:

Tablet came in the mail today, so much easier its crazy

Passed my first insane with a C 10% on my performance bar at one point, really sloppy but still made me happy

I feel like i'm not getting good fast enough, picked up this game because irl friends play it and they are so much better ;_;
It's always good to have friends you can challenge with. It gives you insanely strong motivation to get better, amaze friends and surpass them. I'd really like to have some.
Sotodashi
I've found that I've become worse at streaming than I was when I first tried a stream-compilation, and I don't know why.
Thatgooey

Sotodashi wrote:

I've found that I've become worse at streaming than I was when I first tried a stream-compilation, and I don't know why.
I don't like that map for stream training. There are very random patterns, too many different speed variations, too many note length variations. It is not a very good practice map. You are better off picking a map that has only one style and practicing that. The less variables present, the better. Try playing nyancat like I suggested earlier, or Mendes. Nyancat has insanely consistent 16th notes as well as Mendes. Nyancat will help a lot with spacing, and Mendes has notes that are compact enough that you can focus on tapping, since the streams are a lot easier to follow. Play these maps over and over and you will be able to get control of your fingers. After that, you will have enough command to adjust to the stream speed of most songs within a couple plays.
Sotodashi

Thatgooey wrote:

I don't like that map for stream training. There are very random patterns, too many different speed variations, too many note length variations. It is not a very good practice map. You are better off picking a map that has only one style and practicing that. The less variables present, the better. Try playing nyancat like I suggested earlier, or Mendes. Nyancat has insanely consistent 16th notes as well as Mendes. Nyancat will help a lot with spacing, and Mendes has notes that are compact enough that you can focus on tapping, since the streams are a lot easier to follow. Play these maps over and over and you will be able to get control of your fingers. After that, you will have enough command to adjust to the stream speed of most songs within a couple plays.
Eh, I don't think I'll be able to pass that.
1onz
So, after playing Freedom dive and Mendes every day for 2 weeks, I don't see any improvement for myself on left hand stream speed. Spaced note streams are easy for me but when it comes to mendes or freedom dive I land a ton of X's 50's and a few 100's. Is there any other way to improve this or is the only way just to keep playing?
boat
Don't waste your time grinding one map if not for a high rank on it particularly. Your muscle memory needs to know more than two maps to become good overall and not only on said maps in particular. Spend a bit of time practicing certain patterns if you like, but doing nothing but freedom dive all day quite frankly wont teach you anything.
TocoToucan
How to learn reading maps like these?
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/135804
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/50131
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/45306
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/120030

I'm trying to read and play these maps like usual AR9 TV-size maps, but it doesn't work. I'm looking at approach circles and objects in general, but there are too many circles on my screen at the same time and I don't understand how to play the map(I can play with HT, but after turning HT off I'm still the same low-skilled toucan).
I know that it is unreal to learn something by not doing it, but Retry-kun doesn't help me.

some of my tries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9XxTIFlb8A (passed, but I'm not able to repeat it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98iSnvqQ7bQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYg9hH2bxqY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFJIaR3qvKw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6cToLjsL3k
Sotodashi
Sorta feels like I've run into into a wall, even though the probability of that being true is not really that high.
Oinari-sama

TocoToucan wrote:

How to learn reading maps like these?
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/135804
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/50131
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/45306
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/120030

I'm trying to read and play these maps like usual AR9 TV-size maps, but it doesn't work. I'm looking at approach circles and objects in general, but there are too many circles on my screen at the same time and I don't understand how to play the map(I can play with HT, but after turning HT off I'm still the same low-skilled toucan).
I know that it is unreal to learn something by not doing it, but Retry-kun doesn't help me.

some of my tries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9XxTIFlb8A (passed, but I'm not able to repeat it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98iSnvqQ7bQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYg9hH2bxqY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFJIaR3qvKw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6cToLjsL3k
Try to play maps of lower BPM and less complex patterns as a starter. For example Nordic Stars - Crying In the Rain.

One usually learns faster when one plays something that is just beyond his/her level, so expect to Fail every song. It's important to gain experience at this stage so make friend with NF and just keep playing.

Don't spam just a single map though, I find having a variety of maps helped me improve faster. Once you get used to reading AR9 in maps like the example above, you can move onto faster/more complicated maps. One thing at a time ;)
Fenarth

Sotodashi wrote:

Sorta feels like I've run into into a wall, even though the probability of that being true is not really that high.
I feel like I hit a wall as well as well ;_;
I have a really hard time FCing maps because I miss random easy notes in the middle of the song
Its a really consistent problem and really annoying

Also I had no idea how osu worked and I played for fun so for my first 500 plays or so I did really hard songs I liked with no-fail on and killed my accuracy rating with 50-70%ers

I also have a really big issue when songs change tempo because the approach circles get funky


However by far my biggest problem is when notes appear on notes that are still there. I fail these every time and I usually have to go into edit mode and view the parts at 0.5 speed and memorize it or it just wont happen
Oinari-sama

Fenarth wrote:

However by far my biggest problem is when notes appear on notes that are still there. I fail these every time and I usually have to go into edit mode and view the parts at 0.5 speed and memorize it or it just wont happen
Here's a tip for dealing with those stacked notes: learn to read the approach circles like counting ripples on water surface.

Whenever you see a bunch of notes stacked together, pay attention to the approach circles and you'll find them coming towards the centre of the stack, as if you're watching ripples in a pond after someone drop a stone into it (well.. the reverse of that). The distance between each "ring" corresponds to the hit timing. The denser the rings, the faster you have to hit them and vice versa.

Once you get the hang of the first few stacks in a map, you should be able to do the rest without too much effort. See if that helps.
-Anonymous
I think the best way to improve is by playing HR and DT more.
It'll improve Accuracy of hit, Accuracy of jump, Reaction of approach circles, all that you need to become better.
justin3528

Fenarth wrote:

I also have a really big issue when songs change tempo because the approach circles get funky

However by far my biggest problem is when notes appear on notes that are still there. I fail these every time and I usually have to go into edit mode and view the parts at 0.5 speed and memorize it or it just wont happen
When I first started I found I had similar problems, so I asked my friend for some help and he said to just listen to the song. It sounded kinda stupid at the time but I realised that I was focusing too much on the hit circles rather than following the actual song. I found that I could concentrate more on my cursor while having my accuracy better than before. Of course it does help a lot to know the song before hand, but if you follow the speed of the song in stacks and know when it ends, you don't really need to know how many hit circles there actually are X_X
Tshemmp

Anonymous_Osu_Player wrote:

I think the best way to improve is by playing HR and DT more.
It'll improve Accuracy of hit, Accuracy of jump, Reaction of approach circles, all that you need to become better.
But it will worsen your reading skills on lower ARs, even up to the point where you have trouble reading AR 9... Might be good to play low AR maps once in a while I guess...
thelewa


made a video that can teach anyone to stream more accurately
Bells
Any streaming advice for mouse only players?
TRIYP
For streaming with mouse only I can only stress that practice is by far the most important thing you can do for improving your streaming ability. JUST PLAY MORE. Find your most comfortable bpm range(for me it was 160-180) and warm up with maps in this range. After you feel like you've "mastered" this range slowly expand it to include bpms outside of it. i.e. don't expect to jump from 160 to 200 just because you do well on 160. Increase it AND decrease the range in intervals of 5 bpm or so and you'll get the hang of streaming. The low bpm streams will give you more control and the higher bpm streams will help with your speed. After a while of just doing streams, reading them becomes significantly easier and playing them will be worlds easier.
tldr; just practice.
- L A U R A -
I have to train my stamina usw....
but just try to fc harder maps than you play now and you get better, or play with diffrent mods.
my baddest mod is flashlight, so sometimes i play just with flashlight T-T (didn't get better... fuck FL)
Fenarth
I finally beat http://osu.ppy.sh/s/22276

:D big milestone for me this thread has helped alot especially the bit about the squares

I think the best advice I got in this thread was to play HD for a bit, it really helped with my accuracy and overall play, I went back to no-mod though it simply isnt as fun
CruzadoqL
I need some advice to improve at hd+hr on hard maps, I really suck ;_;
Bells

Crxz4do wrote:

I need some advice to improve at hd+hr on hard maps, I really suck ;_;
I find its a lot of muscle memory and just remembering the parts that trip you up
Callum
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laport
If you think you should be higher than another player, try smoking more weed!
TRIYP

Callum Melville wrote:

I can't seem to go any faster than 100bpm with singles and I'm having trouble understanding the elbow method. Does anyone have a different explanation or technique?
What I did to increase my single tapping speed is just slightly work on increasing your max bpm by small amounts. You say you can't go faster than 100bpm, so find maps that have 100 bpm singles and play those. Then find maps with like 102 bpm singles. Play those maps until you feel as though you can single tap 102 consistently. Rinse and repeat until you reach your desired bpm. There is no magical way to gain speed. You just need to train yourself up.
mer_old_1
How do i deal with like 10-15 circles in the same location? Always loses it at this point... I use mouse while playing.
enik

Limek wrote:

How do i deal with like 10-15 circles in the same location? Always loses it at this point... I use mouse while playing.
It's called streams, you have to use both fingers to clear them. You can read more about streams in the OP.
[T]rickster
How do I avoid seeing/reading patterns as a whole?
enik

[T]rickster wrote:

How do I avoid seeing/reading patterns as a whole?
It comes from the ability to read many circles on screen at once. You can try to separate big hard patterns to a few different small patterns (ex. read Squares as 2 lines of 2 circles) but ideally what you have to do is: take 2 circles of any pattern A and B, A is the starting point and B is the circle we have to jump on and move your cursor from point A to B in a straight line (no matter how the whole pattern looks like) as slow as possible, without changing speed. It means that right after reaching center of the B circle you need to click to get 300. Basically, what Auto does (and cookiezi). This method will help understand map flow better, improve reading and snapping ability.
Also playing lower ARs and Easy mod helps a lot with this issue.
mer_old_1
Is there any good, known way of training on Hidden mode?
GoldenWolf

Mer wrote:

Is there any good, known way of training on Hidden mode?
Following the beats of the music
And practice a lot
Hattori Heiji

GoldenWolf wrote:

Mer wrote:

Is there any good, known way of training on Hidden mode?
Following the beats of the music
And practice a lot
And use your feeling ~
AlexSant
thank you for the post, I find the hitsounds very annoying but they're essential for a good rhythm, by the way sometimes the videos make the it very hard to see the notes it's good to disable it.
B00l3t

AlexSant wrote:

sometimes the videos make the it very hard to see the notes it's good to disable it.
This and dimming the background helps a LOT
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