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R-Note - Magic Magic!

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GophTheGreat
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, May 12, 2013 at 8:08:45 AM

Artist: R-Note
Title: Magic Magic!
Source: Touhou
Tags: Touhou, R-note, Yellow Zebra, UFO, Undefined Fantastic Object, Byakuren Hijiri, Fires of Hokkai
BPM: 177
Filesize: 5714kb
Play Time: 03:38
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.56 stars, 409 notes)
  2. Lunatic (4.89 stars, 569 notes)
  3. Normal (3.43 stars, 274 notes)
Download: R-Note - Magic Magic!
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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First beatmap, etc.
Normal - Done
Hard - Done
Insane - DONE!
4-16-13 - Cyclone's semi-mod.
4-30-13 - Xivaxi's mod
CommanderWank
OMG BEST
Topic Starter
GophTheGreat

CommanderWank wrote:

OMG BEST
Please be serious.
Cyclone
I'm only here because of reddit. I'm also only looking at the hardest difficulty.

-Your difficulty names mean nothing to me. You should use more sensible names (Lunatic has touhou flavor and is easily understood)
-1st note isn't snapped
-You should definitely use a higher Overall Difficulty. OD6 will cause people to easily SS even with mods. OD8 is still pretty easy, but should suffice.
-Timing is off. You need to go into the timing panel (press f6) and highlight all timing sections (ctrl+a the list of sections) and adjust them by -20. This will actually mess up your speed changes, so go to each one individually and add an additional few ms to that number (you can -1 each one tbh)
00:22:562 (1) - Add a note on this spot. A stack of 5 is much better.
02:11:053 (1) - You should probably end the spinner when the music stops. Your call i guess...


A small bit of help. Can't really do much else, but for your first map this is pretty good. More modding will help this out.
Topic Starter
GophTheGreat

Cyclone wrote:

I'm only here because of reddit. I'm also only looking at the hardest difficulty.

-Your difficulty names mean nothing to me. You should use more sensible names (Lunatic has touhou flavor and is easily understood) Done.
-1st note isn't snapped -Fixed
-You should definitely use a higher Overall Difficulty. OD6 will cause people to easily SS even with mods. OD8 is still pretty easy, but should suffice. Done
-Timing is off. You need to go into the timing panel (press f6) and highlight all timing sections (ctrl+a the list of sections) and adjust them by -20. This will actually mess up your speed changes, so go to each one individually and add an additional few ms to that number (you can -1 each one tbh) Done
00:22:562 (1) - Add a note on this spot. A stack of 5 is much better. Done
02:11:053 (1) - You should probably end the spinner when the music stops. Your call i guess... I extended it a bit, but not to the end of the song.
Thank you!
Cyclone

GophTheGreat wrote:

Cyclone wrote:

I'm only here because of reddit. I'm also only looking at the hardest difficulty.

-Your difficulty names mean nothing to me. You should use more sensible names (Lunatic has touhou flavor and is easily understood) Done.
-1st note isn't snapped -Fixed
-You should definitely use a higher Overall Difficulty. OD6 will cause people to easily SS even with mods. OD8 is still pretty easy, but should suffice. Done
-Timing is off. You need to go into the timing panel (press f6) and highlight all timing sections (ctrl+a the list of sections) and adjust them by -20. This will actually mess up your speed changes, so go to each one individually and add an additional few ms to that number (you can -1 each one tbh) Done
00:22:562 (1) - Add a note on this spot. A stack of 5 is much better. Done
02:11:053 (1) - You should probably end the spinner when the music stops. Your call i guess... I extended it a bit, but not to the end of the song.
Thank you!
You misunderstood me on that spinner. The music AT THAT POINT is silent. What i meant was to REDUCE the length of the spinner back to when it goes silent.
Topic Starter
GophTheGreat

Cyclone wrote:

You misunderstood me on that spinner. The music AT THAT POINT is silent. What i meant was to REDUCE the length of the spinner back to when it goes silent.
Fixed it right this time, sorry.
Xivaxi
Hi~

Lunatic
SPOILER
00:35:777 (4,5) - Ctrl G, this is more natural to read and makes the following triple more natural as well
00:37:981 (7) - Add beat
00:58:659 (3) - ^
00:58:998 (5) - ^
01:03:913 (6) - ^
01:05:947 (1) - Move the start of this spinner back to the big white tick, and have it end at the last red tick before the next big white tick
01:06:116 (2) - Add beat (This can optionally also be done by making the last slider a repeat)
Image for the above spinner change and beat http://puu.sh/2JSRd.png
01:16:794 (1) - Why not put a stream before here for the drum fill?
01:25:777 (1,2) - These would feel better as a slider or stacked directly on top of eachother
01:27:303 (3) - Ctrl-G
01:43:065 (2) - Add beat
02:04:421 (4) - Shorten this slider to the red line
02:04:930 (5) - Add beat
02:09:252 (2) - Remove note
02:11:032 (1) - Same deal with this spinner, move it back to the white line, end it at the last red before the next big white
02:11:201 (2) - Add beat here, again you can repeat the last slider instead if you want
02:21:540 (3) - Stream here?
02:29:167 (3) - Add beat
02:30:354 (4) - ^, specifically, a long slider would be nice here, ending on top of the next circle (thus replacing it)
02:53:235 (1) - Move this slider back to the red tick
03:14:337 (5) - Remove note
03:17:472 (5) - Add beat
03:20:184 (5) - ^
03:22:896 (5) - ^
03:25:608 (1) - This slider doesn't seem to fit, instead I suggest the following :
03:25:608 (13) - Add beat
03:25:777 (14) - ^
03:26:116 (15) - ^
03:26:286 (16) - Add a long slider here, from small white tick to small white tick
Picture for above suggestion http://puu.sh/2JTHk.png
03:37:811 (1) - Same change I've suggested for all the other spinners. Move it to the big white tick, end at the red tick before the next big white.
03:37:981 (3) - Add beat, again you could just repeat the slider before instead if you wanted.
Normal
SPOILER
00:11:646 (1) - Move this note to the white tick
00:12:726 (1) - Shorten this slider to the red tick
00:13:574 (2) - Add beat
00:13:913 (3) - ^
00:14:082 (2) - Remove note
00:14:252 (4) - Add beat, specifically a 1/2 repeat slider
Picture for the above suggestions: http://puu.sh/2JU9y.png
00:20:693 (2) - Add beat
00:42:896 (1) - Start this spinner on the next small red tick instead

01:05:947 (1) - Same suggestion for all the other spinners on Lunatic, start it at the big white, end it at the red before the next big white (for these sliders on normal, it may be a better idea to end some of them at the last small white tick instead of last small red, to give more time to read the next notes)

01:37:133 (1) - Start this spinner on the next small red tick instead, end it on the small white tick before the next big white tick

01:38:828 (1) - Add beat

01:47:981 (1) - Start this spinner on the next small red tick instead, end it on the small white tick before the next big white tick

02:11:032 (1) - Same suggestion for all the other spinners on Lunatic, start it at the big white, end it at the red before the next big white (for these sliders on normal, it may be a better idea to end some of them at the last small white tick instead of last small red, to give more time to read the next notes)

03:25:947 (1) - Start this spinner on the first small red tick after the big white tick it's on now, end it on the next big white tick

03:37:811 (1) - Same suggestion for all the other spinners on Lunatic, start it at the big white, end it at the red before the next big white

For the sake of my sanity, I spaced out all these spinner changes and color coded them so I can actually read them.

Sorry if all these spinner changes are confusing, there are basically two types of changes depending on the spinner it's on. I might have messed up at one point and got the spinners confused, let me know if something doesnt' make sense and I'll double check
Hard
SPOILER
00:11:646 (1) - Move this to the white tick
00:20:693 (2,3) - Space these out a bit
00:31:540 (2,3) - ^
00:37:981 (7) - Add beat
00:54:082 (1) - This spinner doesn't fit, and isn't in any of the other difficulties. Replace with a slider (it should probably start on the red tick, not the white)
01:04:930 (1) - This spinner is too early, and isn't consistent with the other difficulties. Move it back to the next white tick to be in line with the rest of the difficulties, Put some sliders/notes in the empty space it left behind
01:34:421 (2) - Move this slider back to the next red tick, extend the end of it to the red tick before the next note, and add a note in its place
01:37:303 (5) - Remove note, make the spinner start here, keep the end of the spinner where it is
01:43:065 (7) - Add beat
01:45:947 (5) - ^
02:10:862 (1) - Same suggestion for all the other spinners on Lunatic, start it at the big white, end it at the red before the next big white
02:11:201 (4) - Add beat, or repeat the last slider
02:48:150 (7) - Add beat
02:53:065 (1) - Move this slider back to the red tick (Some of these spinners don't really seem to fit, it might be a good idea to change some or all of them into other notes)
03:04:252 (1) - ^
03:26:116 (1) - ^
03:38:150 (1) - End this slider at the red tick before the first big white tick

Also, more hitsounds would be good. It seems like it's mostly just default sounds.

I hope this was helpful! Good luck with your map~
Topic Starter
GophTheGreat

Xivaxi wrote:

Hi~

Lunatic
SPOILER
00:35:777 (4,5) - Ctrl G, this is more natural to read and makes the following triple more natural as well Done
00:37:981 (7) - Add beat Done
00:58:659 (3) - ^ - Turned into a half slider
00:58:998 (5) - ^ - Turned into a half slider
01:03:913 (6) - ^ - Done
01:05:947 (1) - Move the start of this spinner back to the big white tick, and have it end at the last red tick before the next big white tick - Done
01:06:116 (2) - Add beat (This can optionally also be done by making the last slider a repeat) - Done, added a beat
Image for the above spinner change and beat http://puu.sh/2JSRd.png
01:16:794 (1) - Why not put a stream before here for the drum fill? - Sure, done
01:25:777 (1,2) - These would feel better as a slider or stacked directly on top of eachother - Done
01:27:303 (3) - Ctrl-G - I want to keep this one the way it is
01:43:065 (2) - Add beat - Done
02:04:421 (4) - Shorten this slider to the red line - Done
02:04:930 (5) - Add beat - Done
02:09:252 (2) - Remove note - Done
02:11:032 (1) - Same deal with this spinner, move it back to the white line, end it at the last red before the next big white - Done
02:11:201 (2) - Add beat here, again you can repeat the last slider instead if you want - Done
02:21:540 (3) - Stream here? - Done
02:29:167 (3) - Add beat - Done
02:30:354 (4) - ^, specifically, a long slider would be nice here, ending on top of the next circle (thus replacing it) - Done
02:53:235 (1) - Move this slider back to the red tick - I think you meant spinner? I moved the spinner
03:14:337 (5) - Remove note - Done
03:17:472 (5) - Add beat - Gonna say no. It'd be too severe of a jump if I put a note here.
03:20:184 (5) - ^ - ^
03:22:896 (5) - ^ - ^
03:25:608 (1) - This slider doesn't seem to fit, instead I suggest the following :
03:25:608 (13) - Add beat - Done
03:25:777 (14) - ^ - Done
03:26:116 (15) - ^ - Done
03:26:286 (16) - Add a long slider here, from small white tick to small white tick
Helpful spinner for above suggestion http://puu.sh/2JTHk.png - Looks like this: http://imgur.com/ZhQ7uMO
03:37:811 (1) - Same change I've suggested for all the other spinners. Move it to the big white tick, end at the red tick before the next big white. - I put a beat and moved the spinner start, but I like the end where it is.
03:37:981 (3) - Add beat, again you could just repeat the slider before instead if you wanted. - ^
Normal
SPOILER
00:11:646 (1) - Move this note to the white tick - Dunno why that was even like that. Done.
00:12:726 (1) - Shorten this slider to the red tick - Done
00:13:574 (2) - Add beat - Done
00:13:913 (3) - ^ - Done
00:14:082 (2) - Remove note - Done
00:14:252 (4) - Add beat, specifically a 1/2 repeat slider - Done
Picture for the above suggestions: http://puu.sh/2JU9y.png- Did all of those
00:20:693 (2) - Add beat -Done
00:42:896 (1) - Start this spinner on the next small red tick instead -Done

01:05:947 (1) - Same suggestion for all the other spinners on Lunatic, start it at the big white, end it at the red before the next big white (for these sliders on normal, it may be a better idea to end some of them at the last small white tick instead of last small red, to give more time to read the next notes) - Not sure why that should apply to this spinner since there's a break following it...I did the lunatic fix though.

01:37:133 (1) - Start this spinner on the next small red tick instead, end it on the small white tick before the next big white tick - Done

01:38:828 (1) - Add beat - Done

01:47:981 (1) - Start this spinner on the next small red tick instead, end it on the small white tick before the next big white tick - Done

02:11:032 (1) - Same suggestion for all the other spinners on Lunatic, start it at the big white, end it at the red before the next big white (for these sliders on normal, it may be a better idea to end some of them at the last small white tick instead of last small red, to give more time to read the next notes) Whahubba...? But there's a break there ;_;. Did the lunatic thing.

03:25:947 (1) - Start this spinner on the first small red tick after the big white tick it's on now, end it on the next big white tick - Done

03:37:811 (1) - Same suggestion for all the other spinners on Lunatic, start it at the big white, end it at the red before the next big white - I put a beat and moved the spinner start, but I like the end where it is.

For the sake of my sanity, I spaced out all these spinner changes and color coded them so I can actually read them.

Sorry if all these spinner changes are confusing, there are basically two types of changes depending on the spinner it's on. I might have messed up at one point and got the spinners confused, let me know if something doesnt' make sense and I'll double check
Hard
SPOILER
00:11:646 (1) - Move this to the white tick - Done
00:20:693 (2,3) - Space these out a bit - Done
00:31:540 (2,3) - ^ - Done
00:37:981 (7) - Add beat - Done
00:54:082 (1) - This spinner doesn't fit, and isn't in any of the other difficulties. Replace with a slider (it should probably start on the red tick, not the white) - Done
01:04:930 (1) - This spinner is too early, and isn't consistent with the other difficulties. Move it back to the next white tick to be in line with the rest of the difficulties, Put some sliders/notes in the empty space it left behind - Done
01:34:421 (2) - Move this slider back to the next red tick, extend the end of it to the red tick before the next note, and add a note in its place - Like this: http://imgur.com/6TMjFrj ?
01:37:303 (5) - Remove note, make the spinner start here, keep the end of the spinner where it is - Done
01:43:065 (7) - Add beat - Done
01:45:947 (5) - ^ - Done
02:10:862 (1) - Same suggestion for all the other spinners on Lunatic, start it at the big white, end it at the red before the next big white - Done
02:11:201 (4) - Add beat, or repeat the last slider - Done
02:48:150 (7) - Add beat - Done
02:53:065 (1) - Move this slider back to the red tick (Some of these spinners don't really seem to fit, it might be a good idea to change some or all of them into other notes) - Done, and I ended up changing the spinners across the song: this one and the one at 00:42:896 became a stream of 6 notes instead and the slider at 01:48:150 was split into 3 sliders (see more below).
03:04:252 (1) - ^ - Became 4 notes
03:26:116 (1) - ^ - Became a 5-point star

Also, more hitsounds would be good. It seems like it's mostly just default sounds.

I hope this was helpful! Good luck with your map~
Thanks so much!
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