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JauiPlaY
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2013年2月27日 at 13:29:28

Artist: oukaitou
Title: Princess
Tags: Dulcet Series summer special collection good machine oil
BPM: 146
Filesize: 6894kb
Play Time: 03:56
Difficulties Available:
  1. Despair (4.31 stars, 346 notes)
  2. Doubt (3.04 stars, 253 notes)
  3. Fear (4.98 stars, 588 notes)
Download: oukaitou - Princess
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Mapping with doubt, despair and fear.
Shit.

25th map.
DarkProjector
下载试试= =~
-Baby Strawberry-
嗨咯~!

你这背景都哪找来的!快给我也发几张~!

[Hard]
SPOILER
谁家hard这么难。。。ar8还那么跳!明明就是insane。。。那我就按照insane mod咯
00:37:603 (5) - 这个我听起来感觉音有点碎。。。所以说我建议删掉这个然后在00:37:706加个圈
01:46:952 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 你觉得这个怎么样?
02:29:692 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 我觉得应该是先大圈再小圈感觉好点
02:58:870 (2,3) - 这里好坑啊。。。。
03:28:870 (1,2) - 调换过来吧。。。这样也太坑了

[Normal]
SPOILER
00:42:843 (1) - 这个放到这里吧
01:12:432 (1) - 好吧。。。
01:58:870 (2) - 再次好吧。。。
02:36:678 (3) - ctrl+G
03:05:035 (3) - 我会觉得弯点好看
03:17:363 (1) - 第三次好吧。。。
03:55:172 (1) - 这个放到这里吧? 然后后面呢,我觉得吧就一条线下来就挺好的
tutuhaha
好听的歌
然后看到那个shit
然后我就想抽你了

[Normal]
Ar-1,现在太快了我说真的O_O...
00:54:761 (X) - 这边加个note还是比较带感的
00:58:048 (X) - ^
01:04:624 (X) - ^
01:43:048 (X) - 这边这样搞
02:10:994 (4) - 加个whistle在中间

[Hard]
00:37:500 (4,5) - 这个换一下位置节奏就对了
00:37:911 (1) - 这里可以加clap
01:08:733 (6,7) - 这块节奏没那么急促
01:19:007 (1) - 去掉whistle
01:19:829 (3) - 然后把whistle放到这里
01:43:254 (3) - whistle搞掉

嘛考虑加个静音轨道?
然后建议加个diff在hard和normal之间?
phaZ
[Normal]

01:12:432 (1) - i dont like it D:
01:17:980 - missing a beat. i suggest to place the slider here and make him to repeat
01:27:226 (4) - i really think these sliders would not fit to the song
01:58:870 (2) - ^
02:02:158 (2) - move the first slider-waypoint to 64;156. [url=02:02:158 (2) -]looks[/url] much better to me
03:17:363 (1) -
03:20:651 (1) - make the the cure more smooth and it would be fine
03:52:295 (2) and 03:53:939 (2) - meh :c
[Hard]

its a very hard Hard and since the first kiai-time it really is an Insane. rename
hp-drain -1. its too hard fo a hard and also it doesnt fits to the song
00:29:281 (7,8,1) - looks good but plays really weird because there isnt any rhythm like this in the music
00:29:487 - and instead a beat is missing here >.<
00:32:569 (7,8,1) - same
00:36:884 (2,3,4,5) - ^
00:38:733 (3,4,5,6,1) - ^
00:42:432 (7,8,1) - ^. i swear im not the only one who think so. you need a change there :\
00:45:515 (7,8) - it should be sth like this http://puu.sh/1I9dY to make the beats hit the music (add whistle on slider begin and on circle)
00:46:131 (1) - if you did ^ add whistle at start
01:02:158 (6,7,1) - doesnt fit here
01:02:569 (1,2) - thats a pretty big and also random jump to me. i suggest to move 01:02:158 (6,7,1) a bit to the left (and maybe a bit down too) and mirror (1) (dont forget the hitsounds!)
01:08:733 (6,7) - make them to one slider is better
01:15:309 (6,7) - ^
01:18:185 (3,4,5) - ? why O:
01:25:172 (6,7) - remove (1) and move the slider on the white tick http://puu.sh/1I9Bg?
01:30:514 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - dafuq?
01:38:322 (6,7,8,1) - make a triplet and a single
01:39:144 (2,3) - add nc on (2) and remove on (3). thats better to read
01:40:788 (2,3) - ^
01:42:432 (2,3) - ^
01:43:254 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - the song is just nice, polite, kind and quiet. such a highlight moment doesnt fit
01:43:665 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - if you remove the whistles it doesnt it doesnt sound like a epic moment (and then in the music never was one)
02:48:391 (4,1) and 02:49:213 (4,1) and 02:50:035 (4,1) - dat jumps are so random and impossible...rly
03:07:089 (6) - ctrl+g

nice map though^^
SamiPale
Hi there. From my mod queue.

Unrankable stuff中的意见是很有可能要修改的,如果你的map是要ranked的话。
Map designing部分、Rhythm/Placing部分和Hitsounds部分的意见是我的个人见解,如果你觉得不好可以随时忽略。

[Normal]
  1. Unrankable stuff
    1. None.
  2. Map designing
    1. 参照Hard部分
  3. Rhythm/Placing

    • 节奏上不科学的空拍略多,碍于星数还是不说了..
    1. 00:47:158 (2) - 这种排版给人一种不是1/1节奏,很容易打快的感觉,建议分开
    2. 00:47:774 (3,4) - 换成3/2折返?
    3. 01:10:788 (4) - 这个slider的形状略单调...可以考虑加几个支点复杂一点
  4. Hitsounds
    1. 前面的whistle显得略单调..00:52:706之前的whistle可以再多点,每小节加一个也可以
    2. 01:21:884 (4) - 移除whistle?后面的3/2slider也同理适当移除,因为下一小节第一拍也有whistle听起来有点重复
    3. 01:53:117 (4) - clap?
    4. 02:07:911 (4) and 02:11:199 (4) - clap换成whistle?
    5. 02:30:514 (2) - 头加finish,尾部finish换成clap?
    6. 03:06:678 (5) - 移除其中一个hitsound?合起来不太好听
    7. 03:16:131 (5) - 移除whistle?
    8. 03:19:829 (4) - 同03:06:678 (5)
    9. 03:37:089 (1) - 降低音量。如果之前的spinner没换位置也一样最好降低音量
[Hard]
  1. Unrankable stuff
    1. None.
  2. Map designing
    1. 02:11:610 (1) - 这里的spinner感觉有点强硬,可以考虑在02:08:322开始做一些引向高潮的节奏/DS比较高的排列,02:11:610换成note,之后是break,然后在02:21:473建一个spinner持续到02:24:350,我觉得这样会好一点
  3. Rhythm/Placing
    1. 00:35:857 (8) - 这里感觉跟平时一样slider移后到蓝线上,原地加个circle比较好,spacing可以不用变
    2. 01:16:747 (4,5,6) - 换个角度摆同DS的三角形会更好?这个地方音乐应该是往高处进行的
    3. 01:19:624 (2,3,4,5,6) - 换种漂亮点的摆法?
    4. 01:30:514 (1,2,3,4,5) - (1)变成1/2 slider,之后的移后一个1/16拍,5连换成4连,这样的节奏比较不突兀
    5. 01:42:021 (1,2,3) - 这里也略有弧度地摆一下?
    6. 02:08:322 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 如果Map designing那里不改,这里还是觉得作为高潮的地方这么摆不合适,个人认为还是摆得大气点好
    7. 02:29:692 (1) - 这里的前后无论节奏衔接还是排版都略生硬?感觉全局对称太难用好了
    8. 02:49:418 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这里的纯1/2节奏略单调,就算是02:50:548加个note也会好很多
    9. 03:17:363 to 03:23:733 - 这里也一样,同上在同样的小节位置加note之类的形成3连也会听起来顺耳很多
    10. 03:39:555 (4) - 按照前面这里这个(4)应该是跟(1,2,3)是同一条弧线比较好?
  4. Hitsounds
    1. 00:28:665 (6) - whistle?
    2. 00:31:952 (6) - 同上,(8)的头尾也可以加whistle
    3. 00:35:651 (7) - whistle从slider尾换到slider头上
    4. 00:38:322 (1) - 也许可以加个whistle
    5. 00:39:144 (6) - whistle
    6. 00:41:815 (6) - 同00:28:665 (6)
    7. 00:49:213 (1) - whistle?
    8. 00:51:473 (6) - whistle?
    9. 00:54:761 (4) - whistle?
    10. 00:58:048 (4) - 同上
    11. 01:01:336 (4) - 同上
    12. 01:04:213 (4,5,6,7) - oxxoxoxx?(x代表whistle
    13. 01:07:911 (4) - 同00:54:761 (4)
    14. 01:11:199 (4) - 同上
    15. 01:14:487 (4) - 同上
    16. 01:15:411 (7) - 头尾可以加whistle
    17. 01:17:158 (6) - whistle?
    18. 01:17:774 (2) - whistle?
    19. 01:48:391 (8) - whistle?
    20. 01:54:966 (8) - 同上
    21. 01:55:994 (1) - 这里的whistle移动到01:55:583,然后(2)加whistle?
    22. 02:25:994 (3) - finish?
    23. 02:28:459 (2) - 这里给我的感觉clap比较好?同时02:29:281加finish?
    24. 02:30:514 (1) - finish?
    25. 02:36:678 (6) - 移除finish?
    26. 02:43:254 (6) - whistle?
    27. 02:46:541 (6) - 同上
    28. 02:49:829 (3) - 同上
    29. 02:53:117 (3) - 同上
    30. 02:56:404 (1) - 同上
    31. 如果spinner没换位置还是同Normal末尾降低音量
都25张图了 :?
Rotte
不是很喜欢啊......
yanlu
Hi~ :) mod from my Mod Queue

那張圖我真的不認識是誰lol
不過因為是好歌~所以還是來mod>_<

如果我的建議不好請原諒.
[Hard]
00:29:281 (7,8)- 換成一個slider 00:29:281- 到 00:29:589- ?
00:37:192 (3,4,5)- (4)跟3和5的間距小一點><?
00:41:815 (6)- note+slider比較fit o.o
00:48:596 (7,8,9,10)- 有點檔...不過還好>< 00:49:007 (9)- 的位子要不要排到 x440 y256
(這樣就符合後面的00:51:884 (7,8,9,10)- 做平行四邊形~)
^(如果有改~00:47:774 (5)- 也要稍微改一下:3)
00:54:966 (5)- 因為00:53:322- 有空拍..所以建議00:54:966- 也空一拍
00:56:610- 這裡看是要加note還是後面空拍><?
01:05:446 (7,8,1)- =A=這...
01:16:747 (4,5,6)- 不好讀..真的
01:18:596 (4)- 間距也許縮小一點><
01:19:829 (3,5)- 換個地方放? 讓01:19:624 (2,3,4,5,6)- 做正方形~
01:21:268 (8)- 在彎一點比較好看><
01:30:514 (1,2,3,4)- 怪怪的...
01:32:774 (2,3)- 跟4的三角形距離可以再大一點點~跟01:32:158 (1)- 碰到或沒檔好了~
01:50:857 (1,2,3,1,2)- 有點擠...也許是因為一開始的三角形距離不夠開xD"
02:00:720 (4,1)- 嗯...有點跳
02:09:966 (1,2,3,4)- 比前面的間距大點?
02:25:788 (3,3,3)- 可以放別的位置別擋住嗎Orz
02:48:391 (4,1)- 也(更)有點跳""
02:49:213 (4,1)- ^
02:50:035 (4,1)- ^
02:52:706 (1,2,3,4,5,6)- 也許這裡的變化比較適合大到小"跳>近")w
02:58:870 (2)- 太檔><
03:00:514 (2)- ^
03:05:446 (4)- 轉向?
03:06:268 (2,3,4,5)- 嗯...
03:19:007 (1,2,1)- 都轉向 :3
03:22:295 (1,2,1)- ^
03:24:555 (4,5)- (5)突然沒稍微跟03:23:939 (1)- 擋住有點難讀懂>_<
03:24:761 (5)- 或許這裡nc
03:26:404 (5)- ^
03:28:048 (5)- ^
03:32:158 (1,2,3)- ..跳得太突然了"
03:55:172 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7)- 都到最後了能不能別這麼難...
神mapper!我只能mod出這些>_<

good luck ></
Athena Tennos
麻烦的格式就不写啦~

[Normal]
  1. 01:12:432 (1) - 平滑的slider中突然出现一个这种扭曲的slider有点不舒服~
  2. 01:33:802 (4) - ^
[Hard]
  1. 03:30:617 - 降音量~?25%?~
  2. 03:43:665 - 20%?~
  3. 03:50:240 - 15%。。。。。。。
唔。。我来凑SP好了。。。~
<~
Pokie

 General

  1. N, I 這種mapset似乎是unrankable的, 最好找人確認一下
  2. 不是找了Milkshake做gd嗎…不要告訴我Normal就是她做的

 Normal

  1. Agree with AR-1
    00:50:446 (2,3) - Circle stacking under slider's end is unrankable issue for easiest difficulty, please unstack and fix the pattern.
    01:17:363 (3,4,5) - I don't prefer for stacking these together, as you have another 1/2 stack 01:18:802 (6,1) - , It'll be messed up for newbies.
    01:38:733 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I doubt on such idea could be used in Normal :roll:
    02:10:788 - Consider to add a note here, as the clap sounds strong here.
    02:26:404 (1,1,1) - These new combos are kinda confusing, simply rearrange them like this:

    02:40:788 (5) - No stacks ;w;
    02:46:131 (3) - ^
    02:52:706 (4,5) - ^
    03:20:651 (1) - ^
    03:45:308 (1,1,1) - Same as 02:26:404

 Hard

  1. 光看個Normal我已經睏死了, 保險起見N我寫了英文
  2. 其實mod的話我在QQ已經做過的了, 我是不知道你有沒看見就是…於是暫時跳掉這難度, 你需要的話我再貼一次當時的內容
Scorpiour
Hi there~~mod from queue~~

red - must be fixed
blue - highly recommend to consider
black - only suggestions


[General]
  1. Your mp3 is 320kbps, so change it to 192kbps and don't forget to do timing again
  2. No tags?
  3. Recommend a silent sliderslide also since the song is quiet.
[Normal]
  1. 00:40:583 - add a slider here to instread of 00:40:994 (2) - maybe better? also 00:43:870 -
  2. 01:40:377 (1) - extend to 3/2 length?
  3. 01:51:062 (4) - make it curved? the song here is soft as aways..
  4. 02:06:062 (2) - move to prev white tick and extend to 1/1?
  5. 02:07:706 (4) - ^, these place are not suitable for shorten slider to alternate beat imo
  6. 02:09:350 (2) - ^
  7. 02:10:994 (4) - ^, move forward then add a repeat
  8. 02:28:459 (2) - depends on your hitsound, clap here is better than finish, i'd like to put finish at 02:29:281 (3) - but not here
  9. 03:50:240 - suggest to reduce volumn from here to end graduately
[Hard]
  1. 00:37:192 (3,4,5) - the beat here is heard mess...remove whistle here first, and then combine 00:37:192 (3,4) - ?
  2. TBH, i didn't very agree with your usage of whistles before 00:52:706 -
  3. 01:05:857 (1) - confused slider overlap
  4. 01:20:035 (4,5,6,7) - bad flow i suppose.. try this placement?
  5. 01:26:404 (3) - ctrl+g and move head left a bit like this?
  6. 01:30:514 (1,2,3,4) - whistle here are heard weird
  7. 02:44:074 (4) - Unsnapped circle
  8. 03:07:089 (6) - ctrl+g?
  9. 03:32:569 (3) - move to 180:280 for better flow~
that's all, give me a call when you're ready.

顺便一提,Hard的难度我认为已经超出一个正常的Hard应有的难度了,虽然不是完全不能放过但是diff spread确实感觉有些不好。另外非黑色的地方如果不改要给我有说服力的理由。
Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
Ahh finally finished...to read the modding posts and edit such a long map is really a big work. It's so painful for such a lazy guy like me to go with...
And I know it was not easy for you guys to mod this map, too! Some modding are really useful to me! Great thanks for you! :D

Map updated~
@Scorpiour: I'll reply your modding on-line.
Kiiwa
yo. bg name made me lol

Despair
OD+1. Rhythm is too simple to need such a low OD, right?
01:19:921 (3,4,5) - Inconsistent spacing and awkward slider paths to follow, use spacing 0.43X to fix (5) spacing. Also, maybe rotate (5) and place like:
01:39:853 (4,4,4) - Nicer rhythm to move these all to the next 1/2, right?
02:27:729 (3,2) - Having both as these as custom sound feel awkward. Maybe remove one?
02:40:469 - Remove whistle.
03:28:346 (4,1) - Transition between these two sliders doesn't feel right.

Fear
00:38:620 (2,3,4,5,6) - You can make hitsounds here like 01:18:277 (3,4,5) -
01:16:429 (2,3,4,5,6) - Can be arranged better.
01:19:716 (2,6) - Stack (2) on (6) so it doesn't have such a random overlap maybe~ (and also you don't need to stack (7) too... It seems unnecessary)
01:44:373 (4) - New combo? Splitting it into grounds of three looks cool~
01:53:209 (4,1) - Good location, but so easy to mistake for a 1/4. Maybe CTRL+G 01:53:620 (1,2) - and 01:54:031 (3,4) - or something to make less confusing. Looks like:
02:40:469 (7) - New combo.
02:47:044 (7) - New combo.
03:10:058 (5) - New combo.

88
Nichiyouki


Hi, JauiPlaY

My mod from your request in my modding queue

Red = Unrankable
Blue = You should consider
Black = My suggestion

General

  1. Fine

Doubt

  1. 03:06:06 (3) - I prefer to make this slider curve more than.
  2. 02:52:798 (3,4,5) - Slider begin of (4) shouldn't stack with slider end previously because it may cause confusion between (3,4) and (4,5).

Despair

  1. 00:26:497 (1) - Rotate anticlockwise about 9 ~ 11 degrees then move (2) to x:428 y:336. It will look better.
  2. 01:04:716 (4,5) - I feel that spacing bettween these is too far. I think you may reduce spacing about 1.6x be better imo.
  3. 01:30:401 (3) - The rhythm of this note is weird for me. May move it at 01:30:195 instead may be more suitable, and if you're fix it, remove whistle on slider end of 01:29:579 (2), too.

Fear

  1. 01:29:373 (2,3) - You can use Ctrl+G on (2) to turn to the contrary with (1), and turn slider tail of (3) move to the left to turn to the contrary with (4) as well.
  2. 02:32:661 (5) - These are better if you rotate this anticlockwise about 30 degrees. Then move to x:16 y:156 to make similar with 02:33:894 (3,4,5).

Comment: All diffs are look good for me. Especially, in Doubt diff. I really prefer for your mapping.

That's all that I can find them, and hope that my mod will be useful for you. (Sorry for I mod delay, too)

Good luck~
Gundam
Hi 这是我挑了半天的鱼骨头
I think this map is so good that it should be ranked asap.
[General]
没个TAG什么的吗/w\

[Despair]
00:48:688 (5) - 和00:49:921 (1) 的末端对齐怎么样o.o
01:52:387 (1,2,3,4) - 感觉之前样不太好看 这样可以么0 0然后把5的起点和3对齐
02:44:990 (1,2,3,4) - 同上_(:з」∠)_

[Fear]
01:38:723 (8) - del? 这样后面节奏一样0 0
02:37:695 (6) - 这样改一下?
02:41:907 (1,2,3,4) - 这样0 0?
Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
Thanks for modding! Your suggestions are really suitable to me to improve this map! :D

And @Scorpiour:
You know I prefer to reply you on-line, man.

Scorpiour wrote:

[General]
  1. Your mp3 is 320kbps, so change it to 192kbps and don't forget to do timing againk
  2. No tags?这个真没有
  3. Recommend a silent sliderslide also since the song is quiet.k
[Normal]
  1. 00:40:583 - add a slider here to instread of 00:40:994 (2) - maybe better? also 00:43:870 -
    一上来就这样感觉有点难
  2. 01:40:377 (1) - extend to 3/2 length?那样节奏对新人就不好掌握了
  3. 01:51:062 (4) - make it curved? the song here is soft as aways..k
  4. 02:06:062 (2) - move to prev white tick and extend to 1/1?
  5. 02:07:706 (4) - ^, these place are not suitable for shorten slider to alternate beat imo
  6. 02:09:350 (2) - ^
  7. 02:10:994 (4) - ^, move forward then add a repeat这几个都是为了增加一点节奏多样性 不然玩着玩着睡着了
  8. 02:28:459 (2) - depends on your hitsound, clap here is better than finish, i'd like to put finish at 02:29:281 (3) - but not here故意的 最高难度也是这个下法
  9. 03:50:240 - suggest to reduce volumn from here to end graduately其实没必要 因为音乐本身音量其实并没有减少 加一根绿线配合一下足够了
[Hard]
  1. 00:37:192 (3,4,5) - the beat here is heard mess...remove whistle here first, and then combine 00:37:192 (3,4) - ?故意的 为了节奏的多样性
  2. TBH, i didn't very agree with your usage of whistles before 00:52:706 -
  3. 01:05:857 (1) - confused slider overlap完全不会unrankable啊...不过你这么一说我修了修slider的形状 现在stack得更加完美了lol
  4. 01:20:035 (4,5,6,7) - bad flow i suppose.. try this placement?k
  5. 01:26:404 (3) - ctrl+g and move head left a bit like this?故意的
  6. 01:30:514 (1,2,3,4) - whistle here are heard weird改了节奏
  7. 02:44:074 (4) - Unsnapped circlek
  8. 03:07:089 (6) - ctrl+g?k
  9. 03:32:569 (3) - move to 180:280 for better flow~感觉现在这样 flow不差多少 美观不止一点
Scorpiour
recheck:

[General]
  1. remove good machine oil from tags, i don't think it makes any sense....
[Fear]
  1. 01:55:264 (1) - ctrl+g to this slider? since your prev notes are jump for each two, i think a ctrl+g for jump may make better flow:>
[Despair]
  1. 00:47:661 - add a note here or make a 1/2 slider for consistent beat?
no kds
Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
good machine oil

The other two have been fixed.
Scorpiour
bubbled~~~

Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
Finally finally finally. Thanks a lot.
NatsumeRin
[Doubt]
01:12:524 (1) - a strange shape here doesn't really fit imo
01:44:579 (2) - whistle on the beginning too

[Despair]
00:36:770 (2,3,4) - the stack here looks awkward when playing
00:47:044 (2,3,4) - i assueme it's something between Normal/Hard, this kind of stack won't be appreciated.
01:39:236 (2,3,4) - i'd prefer you to change how these notes placed too...
01:40:880 (2,3,4) - ^
01:42:524 (2,3,4) - ^

[Fear]
00:36:360 (1,2) - plz no. http://puu.sh/2949a i don't think this is a fine way.
00:38:825 (3,4,5,6,1) - ...not sure what do you want with those beats.
01:05:538 (7,8,1) - maybe you could make this more clear with manually stack http://puu.sh/294cG
01:12:113 (6) - after stack this note would overlap with 5 a bit, i think this is not what you want.
03:49:099 (3) - 0.5x is a bit too much, (easy to recognize as 1/2)
Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
Fixed all except these two.

SPOILER

NatsumeRin wrote:

[Fear]
00:38:825 (3,4,5,6,1) - ...not sure what do you want with those beats.I just wanna map something different and creative here, if my map could fit in other songs with the same BPM, then it is bad.
03:49:099 (3) - 0.5x is a bit too much, (easy to recognize as 1/2)Generally speaking, I would like to fixed this kind of problems immediately. However imo this should be a special case, since this kind of rhythm have been looped again and again before, I think it's pretty easy for players to judge the rhythm here.
Thanks for modding!! :D
NatsumeRin
Ranked.
Kiiwa
Gratz \:D/
Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
\Yeah/~
Thanks a lot! :)
Snowy Dream
哇 鸭子又rank图
Strawberry
恭喜囉~
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