1. Cruel (2.81 stars, 181 notes)
2. Slave (5 stars, 679 notes)
3. Son (4.98 stars, 420 notes)

Saten wrote:

Finally done~
http://puu.sh/1fjVb
I don't know what to name it lol


Don't forget to add Saten-san to the tags.

wantuole wrote:

from my queue
[General]
combo colour like diff "Son" is butter ok,changed
Bg size is wrong 1024x768 fixed
a liitle noise，down vol 10~15% all 10% down
[Normal]
ok,clean diff
02:39:266 (2) - no follow music fixed

[Slave]
sorry hard for me mod this

that's all
good luck

[TimingPoints]
598,333.333333333333,4,2,1,50,1,0
4264,-100,4,2,1,5,0,0
5931,-100,4,1,2,70,0,0
32598,-100,4,1,2,80,0,1
48597,-133.333333333333,4,1,2,70,0,1
51264,-100,4,1,2,80,0,1
56598,-100,4,1,2,80,0,0
75265,-100,4,1,1,70,0,0
85932,-100,4,1,2,80,0,1
101931,-125,4,1,2,70,0,1
104597,-100,4,1,2,70,0,0
139264,-133.333333333333,4,1,2,70,0,0
157932,-100,4,1,1,70,0,0
163931,-100,4,1,2,80,0,1
179931,-133.333333333333,4,1,2,70,0,1
182598,-100,4,1,2,80,0,1
195598,-100,4,1,2,80,0,0

xRayne wrote:

Saw your map on the mod request channel. I am no good at modding, but I will try ^^
Note that these are all suggestions. You can either take my advice and change the part's i see wrong, or you can just leave them as they are. (:


Normal

General
Change drain rate to 3 changed
Change circle size to 3 changed
Change AR to 3, maybe? Keep
And change Overall Difficulty to 3 also.

And please DISTANCE SNAP ALL NOTES. I didn't understand the meaning at all.　It is made a snap well.

Mod time

00:01:931 (2) - bring this slider left one grid and up eight spaces
00:03:264 (3) - bring this slider left two and up 7 spaces
00:04:598 (4) - bring this slider left 7 spaces

No change.Because Spacing

I'm sorry to have to say this, but I cannot complete the mod of your normal mode until you have re-snapped all the notes. It is very difficult for me to make suggestions because your note's are to inconsistent.

Slave
00:33:598 (5) - this slider is kind of odd...and it is overlapping 00:35:264 (1) - overlapping change
02:44:932 (5) - another odd slider... no
03:08:433 (2) - this slider, move 5 spaces to the right do its align with the bottom one. changed.

Overall, I think the spacing needs to be worked with in a few areas. Notes are to close, and to far. But i like it.

Sorry if it is not much of a mod. Fix your normal mode when you can, and I will continue to mod it.

From our queue \( ^_^)/

1. Is it just me or I feel the BG image a little bit...stretched?
2. Combo colour purple just doesn't matched anything. How about dark blue?

1. Normal, Son, Slave. "Normal" name just... doesn't fit. Another name maybe?
2. OD -1?
3. HP -1?
4. AR +1?
5. Slider tick rate 1? 2 is too much
6. The spacing between the notes are too short, this is seriously disturbing the players especially newbies. Consider to use DS 1.2 or 1.4 or... try CS 4.
7. 00:00:598 - Set volume to 30%?
8. 00:01:931 - ^ but to 40%?
9. 00:03:264 - ^ but to 50%?
10. 00:04:598 - ^ to 60% (these volume settings are intended to follow the music)
11. 00:34:931 - Add note here
12. 00:38:931 - ^
13. 01:28:265 - ^
14. 01:41:932 (1,2,3,4) - Make 1,2 and 3,4 a slider? So there are two sliders here
15. 02:00:599 (1) - Extend to 02:01:099 - ?
16. 02:05:932 (1) - ^ to 02:06:432 - ?
17. 02:38:599 - Set volume to 90% here?

1. The difficulty spread between Son and Normal is very high. Son is just like an Insane. My suggestion is, how about make another Hard diff and make this diff as Insane?
2. 00:52:597 (1,2) - How about this? http://puu.sh/1gFpA

1. Since I'm suggesting that Son should be Insane, how about make this as Expert?
2. 00:11:931 (3,4) - How about more symmetry like, copypaste the 00:11:264 (1,2) - and press Ctrl-H?
3. 00:17:264 (3,4) - A little bit similar to above.
4. 00:19:931 (3,4) - Put 00:20:264 (4) - on 3's position and vice versa?
5. 00:36:598 (1) - Slider reverse more than 1 is not recommended if the SV's so fast that we can't realize if there's any other reverse arrows. Shorten the slider to 1 reverse and add note after it?
6. 00:42:598 (5,6,7,8) - Confusing jumps. Could you make these notes placed like 00:41:931 (1,2,3,4) - ?
7. 01:20:598 (1) - Why don't you stack this slider with 01:20:265 (5) - ? Better flow imo
8. 01:20:598 (1,2,3,4,5) - Too far jumps. Reduce please
9. 02:44:932 (5) - Ridiculous shape orz, better shape please? *nazi
10. 02:55:599 (5) - ^

inverness wrote:

From our queue \( ^_^)/

Red mods means must be fixed. Mods with question marks are only suggestion.

[General]

1. Is it just me or I feel the BG image a little bit...stretched? orz ... Reservation
2. Combo colour purple just doesn't matched anything. How about dark blue?　ok, ALL DIFF fixed

[Normal]

1. Normal, Son, Slave. "Normal" name just... doesn't fit. Another name maybe?
2. OD -1? 3
3. HP -1? 3
4. AR +1? 4
5. Slider tick rate 1? 2 is too much changed ~ nice suggestion
6. The spacing between the notes are too short, this is seriously disturbing the players especially newbies. Consider to use DS 1.2 or 1.4 or... try CS 4. CS5 change,
7. 00:00:598 - Set volume to 30%?
8. 00:01:931 - ^ but to 40%?
9. 00:03:264 - ^ but to 50%?
10. 00:04:598 - ^ to 60% (these volume settings are intended to follow the music)
11. 00:34:931 - Add note here
12. 00:38:931 - ^
13. 01:28:265 - ^
14. 01:41:932 (1,2,3,4) - Make 1,2 and 3,4 a slider? So there are two sliders here
15. 02:00:599 (1) - Extend to 02:01:099 - ? keep sound ~
16. 02:05:932 (1) - ^ to 02:06:432 - ? keep sound ~
17. 02:38:599 - Set volume to 90% here?

That's all I can find.
volume mod great
[Son]

1. The difficulty spread between Son and Normal is very high. Son is just like an Insane. My suggestion is, how about make another Hard diff and make this diff as Insane? KEEP 3 Diff MAP SET.
2. 00:52:597 (1,2) - How about this? http://puu.sh/1gFpA

Clean diff!

[Slave]

1. Since I'm suggesting that Son should be Insane, how about make this as Expert? sorry, 3 diff keep.
2. 00:11:931 (3,4) - How about more symmetry like, copypaste the 00:11:264 (1,2) - and press Ctrl-H? fixed
3. 00:17:264 (3,4) - A little bit similar to above. fixed
4. 00:19:931 (3,4) - Put 00:20:264 (4) - on 3's position and vice versa? no change . because favorite ~
5. 00:36:598 (1) - Slider reverse more than 1 is not recommended if the SV's so fast that we can't realize if there's any other reverse arrows. Shorten the slider to 1 reverse and add note after it? fmm , sure. but, flow and diffcult is ok
6. 00:42:598 (5,6,7,8) - Confusing jumps. Could you make these notes placed like 00:41:931 (1,2,3,4) - ? 5.6.7.8 is DS1.5. no hard. but new combo.
7. 01:20:598 (1) - Why don't you stack this slider with 01:20:265 (5) - ? Better flow imo fmm, no change . There is not the trouble.
8. 01:20:598 (1,2,3,4,5) - Too far jumps. Reduce please There is not the trouble.
9. 02:44:932 (5) - Ridiculous shape orz, better shape please? *nazi okay
10. 02:55:599 (5) - ^

That's all~

Good luck Pomuta~

xRayne wrote:

And please DISTANCE SNAP ALL NOTES.

Overall, I think the spacing needs to be worked with in a few areas. Notes are to close, and to far. But i like it.

inverness wrote:

[*]Normal, Son, Slave. "Normal" name just... doesn't fit. Another name maybe?

inverness wrote:

[*]The difficulty spread between Son and Normal is very high. Son is just like an Insane. My suggestion is, how about make another Hard diff and make this diff as Insane?

Kuro wrote:

xRayne wrote:

And please DISTANCE SNAP ALL NOTES.

Overall, I think the spacing needs to be worked with in a few areas. Notes are to close, and to far. But i like it.

Sounds like someone tried to use AIMod to check distance snapping..
* Next time, don't... AIMod gets crazy when you try to check distance snapping...

Anyway....

General

Kiai is used sparingly...
Timing is perfect...
No problems here... Good Job!!


[Normal]

inverness wrote:

[*]Normal, Son, Slave. "Normal" name just... doesn't fit. Another name maybe?

Agreed, name doesn't fit...

A section of the lyrics say:

When you said, "wait here,
'Til I return
With your brother that was lost
To the ways of the world"

Try "Brother" instead of "Normal"
"Brother" could relate to "Son" so that's a plus!!

*I notice you changed it to "Cruel", either "Brother" or "Cruel" would work...
*It's whatever you decide to name it...

All other problems were addressed by previous Modders...

[Son]

inverness wrote:

[*]The difficulty spread between Son and Normal is very high. Son is just like an Insane. My suggestion is, how about make another Hard diff and make this diff as Insane?

Agreed again...

The difficulty jump between "Cruel" and "Son" is too much...

Either make a Hard diff. or make "Son" easier...

Possible ways to fix this

Option 1: Make Hard Diff.

Option 2: Lower anything EXCEPT circle size!! *At least down to 4.00
*Sometime's changing circle size kills distance snapping. It just depends on how close together the circles are...
*Also, If you snap enough circles as said by AIMod difficulty rating drops to next diff.

[Slave]

I watched it in Editor, there are some weird sliders in this one
*The ones that look like over-sized check marks are cool...
*I usually make long sliders into circles so they don't move too far away...

As for spacing: Some of these jumps look impossible!!
Spacing changes too much throughout the song to comment on!!


Overall

This song is EPIC!!

Oh.... and decent job on the map!! xD


I would absolutely love to make a Taiko Diff. for your song!! xD sorry not need taiko~

inverness wrote:

[Son]

1. The difficulty spread between Son and Normal is very high. Son is just like an Insane. My suggestion is, how about make another Hard diff and make this diff as Insane? Son is a Hard and easy to pass
2. 00:52:597 (1,2) - How about this? http://puu.sh/1gFpA nah, that just makes it harder

Clean diff!

Kuro wrote:

[Son]

inverness wrote:

[*]The difficulty spread between Son and Normal is very high. Son is just like an Insane. My suggestion is, how about make another Hard diff and make this diff as Insane?

Agreed again...

The difficulty jump between "Cruel" and "Son" is too much...

Either make a Hard diff. or make "Son" easier...

Possible ways to fix this

Option 1: Make Hard Diff.

Option 2: Lower anything EXCEPT circle size!! *At least down to 4.00
*Sometime's changing circle size kills distance snapping. It just depends on how close together the circles are...
*Also, If you snap enough circles as said by AIMod difficulty rating drops to next diff. it might drop but the star difficulty will stay the same

P o M u T a wrote:

sorry not need taiko~

P o M u T a wrote:

thanks comment,
but, keep 3diff .
because , son is no stream .
cruel is circle size 5.
other ranked map looked.

jamxx wrote:

Cruel and Slave
modded via IRC

yes!

SPOILER

332,296,49931,2,0,B|400:240|400:152,1,160,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
256,84,51265,5,0,0:0:0
320,132,51598,1,8,0:0:0
296,208,51931,1,0,0:0:0
216,208,52265,1,8,0:0:0
188,132,52598,2,0,B|68:132,2,120,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0

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kajiyatta wrote:

from PM
General
NCの間隔がバラバラなので、少し統一感をだして一定リズムで付けていったほうが見栄えが良くなると思います 統一させました

Cruel
Easyに当たるdiffが無いのでAR-1の方がいいと思います 元々3だったのですが、satenさんと相談して4に変更したので維持でいきます。Placement
00:26:598(3) x:88 y:240　DS固定で動ける範囲内に置きたいのでno change
00:32:598(1,2,3)重なりがやや汚く見えるので離した方がいいと思いますfmfm,重なるサークルを消してサビもそこのサークルは無くすように統一しました。

SPOILER

00:49:931(2,1,2,3,4,5) 配置の提案　是非採用させていただきました

332,296,49931,2,0,B|400:240|400:152,1,160,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
256,84,51265,5,0,0:0:0
320,132,51598,1,8,0:0:0
296,208,51931,1,0,0:0:0
216,208,52265,1,8,0:0:0
188,132,52598,2,0,B|68:132,2,120,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0

01:22:598(3,4)スタックは避けたほうが初心者にはわかりやすいと思います。他にも何箇所かありましたが、お任せします　一応許容範囲ですが、確かに多様は禁物だと思いますので、検討していきます。そこはスタックが合うと思うのでkeepします。残り２つスタックあるのでそこは考えて見ます。

SPOILER

Rythem
02:38:599(1)　音取りの提案 fm,自分もそれは考えていたのですが、スピナーとの空きが現状維持の状態で最低限だと私は思ってるのでこの音取りを使わず現状維持でやっていきます。

SPOILER

Hit Sonud
00:54:098(1) finish削除
00:11:264(1)始点のclap削除でfinish追加
02:43:932(1) 始点にfinish追加

Slave
Placement
00:07:431(8) NC　統一して修正。
00:19:931(3,4) 入れ替え？　ここは外側にもっていきたいのでkeep
02:14:265(2,3) Ctrl+G? →02:15:265(1) Ctrl+H　是非採用させていただきました。+流れ的に(3)をCtrl+HとCtrl+GをしてDS1.5で中点を真ん中に持ってくる作業をしました。

SPOILER

Rythem
00:27:264(1,2,3,4)　この繰り返しがやや単調なので、リバーススライダーなどを混ぜてもいいと思います。ジャンプと連打を一緒に持って来られるとかなり難しいので 一応単発を感覚あけて少しでも軽減してるので、ここはkeepしてみます。
00:42:265(3,4) 入れ替え？何名かのテスターさんにやって貰いましたらここは自然に出来ていましたのでkeepしてみます。
Hit Sonud
00:54:098(1) finish削除 fixed

good luck.

kajiさんmodding+☆ありがとうございます～。
NCに関しても改善できて良かったと思います。
維持したものに関しては今後の参考とさせていただきます
感謝です。

Saten wrote:

thanks
changes from jamxx & kajiyatta

http://puu.sh/1hv8O

1. Red - Important or Issue
   
2. Blue - You'd better fix them
   
3. Black - Normal Suggestions

80,184,174599,6,0,B|76:124|144:96|148:44,1,160

Click it

Snowy Dream wrote:

[Son]
02:38:097 (1,2,3) - looks not so good since they are behind of the slider :< it was meant to be like this

02:51:431 (3,4) - Make up of a square. I find the current placement more flowing tho

Snowy Dream wrote:

Mod request from Snowy Dream's Queue

1. Red - Important or Issue
   
2. Blue - You'd better fix them
   
3. Black - Normal Suggestions

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[Cruel]
00:08:598 (1) - Useless finish, remove it.
02:08:599 (1) - ^
00:32:598 (1) - Add finish to the beginning of the slider.
01:25:932 (1) - ^
01:56:599 (1,2) - Maybe a bit difficult for beginners to lead in,try this

02:54:599 (1) - What about this? If you want to use ,here's the code

80,184,174599,6,0,B|76:124|144:96|148:44,1,160

Click it

ok all fixed

[Slave]
00:36:598 (1) - Reduce a return then add a note at 00:37:098 i think keep flow and easy better
01:45:432 (2) - Stack with 01:43:932 (4) completely? ok
02:05:932 (1) - Also jump this slider. fmm .Reservation

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Excellent Mapset :3
GL

1. AudioLeadIn:1500 is better. Don't make players wait too long.
2. Your hitsounds are TOO LOUD. (a specially for start part) I can't hear music.
3. Not for Ranked- but for Rank. grammar nazi :3/
4. That velocity/diff spread is SO TERRIBLE, in my opinion. You have Easy/Insane/Extra mapset. Now make Normal/Hard. Because gap between [Son] and [Cruel] is too high. Also I'd like to see diffs renamed in usual order [Easy]/[Normal] (map it)/[Hard](map it)/Insane (Saten's diff)/[Cruel]- Extra - (currently named Slave)
   
   It will become something like this

   Easy - (currently [Cruel]]) - by you
   Normal - (not mapped) - ???
   Hard - (not mapped) by ???
   Insane - (currently [Son]) - by Saten
   Extra - (currently [Slave]) - by you.

1. Making extremly hard map is a good idea. But not here. I think your SV is too high.
2. 00:08:598 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - new combo seems to be overused here. It looks odd and 300k hitburst looks confusing. it's overlapped with next circles which makes this stream too hard to read. (try to delete 00:08:931 (1) - new combo here and here 00:09:264 (1) - to be consistent in combo placing for streams.
3. 00:14:598 (3,1) - reverse arrow might be covered by hitburst. it's unrankable - maybe.
4. 00:15:764 (2,4) - No! NO! NO! Please DON'T CHANGE SPACING TOO OFTEN! We can't play map if spacing changes almost every single circle. For hidden players this pattern is unreadable
5. 00:21:931 (1,2,3,1) - even during jumps your spacing is totally random. It's too random. Try to be more consistend with spacing. Right now this is just beats without distance snap - not jumps.
6. 00:27:514 - and all similar/following patterns. Missing beat. looks like 1/4 jump and hard to read/understand. All of your patterns appear in the middle of nowhere and ends here, too.
7. 00:33:598 (5) - if you will make a miss at 00:32:931 (2) - you probaly won't notice reverse at (5). Maybe it's unrankable because reverse arrow could be covered by hitburst
8. 00:36:598 (1) - "LET'S PUT ANTIJUMP IN THE MIDDLE OF VOCALS! It's unfitting? Nobody cares!" <= looks like you're following this idea. THis is wrong. As I told you before inconsistent spacing which is off vocals is not the way for mapping.
9. 00:46:931 (3) - annoying and inconsistent spacing. You don't have enough space to put objects because of too fast velocity. :/
10. 00:49:931 (1) - I hate this new combo. It feels so random and hurt my eyes. orz. delete it to follow vocals
11. 00:52:431 (8) - we call it "deatjumps". While making jumps here - keep in mind - that velocity is too fast and JUMP DISTANCE SHOULD BE LOWER than for regular maps.
12. 01:20:598 (1) - and many SIMILAR sliders. - how about adding slowdown for them? It will make sliders neater and more playable
13. 01:09:098 (2,3,4,1) - doesn't fits with music and hard to read understand. (a specially with hidden) - remember: that your goal is to make an awesome map - not just put some circle in random order!
14. 01:15:265 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - have you tried to play it? I think - no. Because it's unplayable. As always random spacing and random jumps.
15. 01:21:015 - there's beat! Why do you skip it? It's unfair towards other 1/4s and also it plays badly. (looks like 1.4 jump)
16. 01:23:182 - forever ignored beat. :< Why did you skip it?
17. 01:35:265 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and that's what I'm talking about. Because of extremly FAST slider velocity you have no place to put those circles. your current placement is not understandable and random. Random - is the worst thing for maps. It ruins creativity. If you want to make good map - be creative, not random.
18. 01:45:265 (1) - why did you put new combo here? because you felt like it should be here? It's unfitting with music/pattern. Since 01:43:265 (3) - you didn't put NC here. remove nc from 01:45:265 (1).
19. 02:20:765 (1) - don't you think that this new comb is totally extra and ufitting? try to remove it
20. 02:23:932 (3) - random jumps are back?
21. 02:35:266 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - same as always. Be more reasonable while mapping, this random comboing is really making me angry.
22. 02:32:266 (7) - ha-ha. Even during streams - you're inconsistent. try to chose one DS for streams and use it or every stream in this diff. Don't be random ;_;
23. 02:37:932 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - is it jumps or what? It looks like radom and wrong placed notes
24. 03:15:266 (5,6,7,8,9) - add claps for this stream? o3o
    
    I'm sorry - but I think this diff is kinda overmapped with EXTREMLY FAST VELOCITY and random/useless jumps. I really disappointed. :<

• 
  Nyanten \:3/

1. Personally, I don't like this circle size. If you're trying to keep it as [Hard] diff - your Slider Velocity is too fast. if it's [Insane] - your CS is too BIG. orz
2. 00:14:431 (3) - hm.. if I'll make a miss at 00:13:098 (2) - i might miss reverse at 00:14:431 (3). Quite a bad thing
3. 00:52:597 (1,2) - nazi - if you're trying to be symmetrical - do it this way? o3o
4. 00:53:931 (1) - it would be a good idea to place here custom-kick hisound or Normal finish (~40%)
5. 02:47:764 (1,2,1,1) - looks like nw combos are a bit overused here. >.<
6. 03:15:264 (1) - clap on slider's body o3o sounds good to me D:
   
   I don't like Circle size. But otherwise you have nice diff here.

1. AR4 since it's Easiest diff in the mapset
2. 00:11:264 (1) - overlapped with spinner's hitburst. Unacceptable for easiest diff.
3. 00:28:264 (2) - reverse arrow might be hard to read for beginners. it's overlapped with (3)'s hitburst >.<
4. 01:28:598 (1,1) - Unacceptably confusing for easiest diff. Beginners will think "OMG! WHERE TO START? IS IT STACK OR WHAT?"
   
   This diff is good.

-Bakari- wrote:

hi. :<

[General]

1. AudioLeadIn:1500 is better. Don't make players wait too long. all diff fixed
2. Your hitsounds are TOO LOUD. (a specially for start part) I can't hear music. ok.fixed
3. Not for Ranked- but for Rank. grammar nazi :3/ thanks fixed
4. That velocity/diff spread is SO TERRIBLE, in my opinion. You have Easy/Insane/Extra mapset. Now make Normal/Hard. Because gap between [Son] and [Cruel] is too high. Also I'd like to see diffs renamed in usual order [Easy]/[Normal] (map it)/[Hard](map it)/Insane (Saten's diff)/[Cruel]- Extra - (currently named Slave)
   
   It will become something like this

   Easy - (currently [Cruel]]) - by you
   Normal - (not mapped) - ???
   Hard - (not mapped) by ???
   Insane - (currently [Son]) - by Saten
   Extra - (currently [Slave]) - by you.
   sorry keep.no problem

[Slave]

1. Making extremly hard map is a good idea. But not here. I think your SV is too high. The play is possible. It is not a mistake that you say.
2. 00:08:598 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - new combo seems to be overused here. It looks odd and 300k hitburst looks confusing. it's overlapped with next circles which makes this stream too hard to read. (try to delete 00:08:931 (1) - new combo here and here 00:09:264 (1) - to be consistent in combo placing for streams.　changed
3. 00:14:598 (3,1) - reverse arrow might be covered by hitburst. it's unrankable - maybe.　thanks~
4. 00:15:764 (2,4) - No! NO! NO! Please DON'T CHANGE SPACING TOO OFTEN! We can't play map if spacing changes almost every single circle. For hidden players this pattern is unreadable . I think that it is not serious. When I play, how about? but, stack
5. 00:21:931 (1,2,3,1) - even during jumps your spacing is totally random. It's too random. Try to be more consistend with spacing. Right now this is just beats without distance snap - not jumps. this is fun jump.
6. 00:27:514 - and all similar/following patterns. Missing beat. looks like 1/4 jump and hard to read/understand. All of your patterns appear in the middle of nowhere and ends here, too. (2).(4) place is kick slider change .
7. 00:33:598 (5) - if you will make a miss at 00:32:931 (2) - you probaly won't notice reverse at (5). Maybe it's unrankable because reverse arrow could be covered by hitburst thanks
8. 00:36:598 (1) - "LET'S PUT ANTIJUMP IN THE MIDDLE OF VOCALS! It's unfitting? Nobody cares!" <= looks like you're following this idea. THis is wrong. As I told you before inconsistent spacing which is off vocals is not the way for mapping. I do not feel sense of incongruity for me.
9. 00:46:931 (3) - annoying and inconsistent spacing. You don't have enough space to put objects because of too fast velocity. :/ changed
10. 00:49:931 (1) - I hate this new combo. It feels so random and hurt my eyes. orz. delete it to follow vocals ok
11. 00:52:431 (8) - we call it "deatjumps". While making jumps here - keep in mind - that velocity is too fast and JUMP DISTANCE SHOULD BE LOWER than for regular maps. sorry, not change. no probelem jumps.
12. 01:20:598 (1) - and many SIMILAR sliders. - how about adding slowdown for them? It will make sliders neater and more playable keep no problem,
13. 01:09:098 (2,3,4,1) - doesn't fits with music and hard to read understand. (a specially with hidden) - remember: that your goal is to make an awesome map - not just put some circle in random order! drum fit.I want to refrain from the mapping to consider for Mods.
14. 01:15:265 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - have you tried to play it? I think - no. Because it's unplayable. As always random spacing and random jumps. When this is pleasant placement, I feel random, and it is not difficult.
15. 01:21:015 - there's beat! Why do you skip it? It's unfair towards other 1/4s and also it plays badly. (looks like 1.4 jump)　I do guitar and drum fit enough even if I skip. Rather I feel that I do not need it.
16. 01:23:182 - forever ignored beat. :< Why did you skip it? blue line. and ^ Even more single-engine.
17. 01:35:265 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and that's what I'm talking about. Because of extremly FAST slider velocity you have no place to put those circles. your current placement is not understandable and random. Random - is the worst thing for maps. It ruins creativity. If you want to make good map - be creative, not random. I can play by a natural flow when I play. Did you play experimentally? These do not let you feel sense of incongruity.
18. 01:45:265 (1) - why did you put new combo here? because you felt like it should be here? It's unfitting with music/pattern. Since 01:43:265 (3) - you didn't put NC here. remove nc from 01:45:265 (1). ok changed
19. 02:20:765 (1) - don't you think that this new comb is totally extra and ufitting? try to remove it ok changed
20. 02:23:932 (3) - random jumps are back? no problem jump
21. 02:35:266 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - same as always. Be more reasonable while mapping, this random comboing is really making me angry. thanks.　I do not understand a reason got angry at by you. Let's be careful with words.
22. 02:32:266 (7) - ha-ha. Even during streams - you're inconsistent. try to chose one DS for streams and use it or every stream in this diff. Don't be random ;_;　I did not notice here. I really thank you
23. 02:37:932 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - is it jumps or what? It looks like radom and wrong placed notes　Three angles of jumps.
24. 03:15:266 (5,6,7,8,9) - add claps for this stream? o3o　It is reservation.o3o
    
    I'm sorry - but I think this diff is kinda overmapped with EXTREMLY FAST VELOCITY and random/useless jumps. I really disappointed. :<

There are surely many random jumps. However, this does not give a severe disorder for a play. Because mapping style collapses, there are no most changes.
I am glad to point out a bad place if I give the solution.
I think about a sheet of music and intend to make it. If you have been able to see it at random, I am sorry.
And I may understand it only after you play map experimentally. Please learn it.
It should be future reference about the place that I did not revise. I do not do it idly.
[Cruel]

1. AR4 since it's Easiest diff in the mapset sorry keep
2. 00:11:264 (1) - overlapped with spinner's hitburst. Unacceptable for easiest diff. fm,(1) is under , but, The tolerance level shows it.
3. 00:28:264 (2) - reverse arrow might be hard to read for beginners. it's overlapped with (3)'s hitburst >.< fixed
4. 01:28:598 (1,1) - Unacceptably confusing for easiest diff. Beginners will think "OMG! WHERE TO START? IS IT STACK OR WHAT?" changed
   
   This diff is good.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sorry.

HellDawn wrote:

Cruel

00:18:598- 1 grid right no, because X-axis unification
00:40:598- maybe finish ? no, because unification

Slave

00:53:931- finish
01:25:932- ^
01:47:265- ^
02:43:349- dont need to break time
02:43:932- finish
yes ! All fixed :3
Thats all Good luck :3

Guy wrote:

hi~ request from via in-game
気に入らないModは無視してください

　

Slave

　●　00:20:598 (1) - ここからのストリームの形ですが、やや不恰好に見えます。00:21:598 (5) - ここから角度が急になっているので前の部分で修正を加えてもう少し緩やかにしてみてはどうでしょうか。 自信ないですがfixedです・・・：ｘ：
　●　00:33:598 (5) - この形のスライダーは他にもありますが、もう少し工夫してスライダーを作ってみるといいと思います。(形浮かばない・・・)　僕も浮かばないので放置・・・　
●　00:48:598 (1,2,3,4) - 個人的にですが、もっと面白い形のスライダーを使ってみるといいかと思いました。このままにするにしても形が悪いように思います。 配置もchnged
　●　01:28:932 (2) - (1)にかぶらない程度に少し右にずらしてみてはどうでしょうか。 fixed
　●　01:41:932 (1,2,3,4) - 00:48:598 (1,2,3,4) -と同じ理由です。配置変えて修正
　●　01:44:598 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ちょっとバラバラな印象を受けたので対称的にしてみてもいいかもです。コードも貼っておきますね　ありがとです・・是非使わせていただきました

256,80,104598,5,0,0:0:0
424,48,104765,1,0,0:0:0
476,192,104932,1,8,0:0:0
424,336,105098,1,0,0:0:0
256,304,105265,1,0,0:0:0
88,336,105432,1,0,0:0:0
36,192,105598,1,8,0:0:0
88,48,105765,1,0,0:0:0

SPOILER

　●　02:13:265 (2) - ここは1/3のスライダーを使って4回リピートさせたほうが音楽にも合っていて良いと思います。　fixedです
　●　02:20:765 (1,2,3,4) - こんな感じのほうがいいと思います。　修正完了です

SPOILER

　

Cruel

　●　01:33:932 (1) - 少し形が悪いので、slider 2nd pointをスライダーの中心あたりに持っていきましょう。　修正です
　このdiffも特に気になる点はありませんでした。

以上です、Slaveのdiffは音取りには特に問題はありませんが、配置やスライダーの形などでまだまだ改良が必要なように思いました。
難しいですがとても楽しい譜面だと思います。
頑張ってください

1. I don't like your combo colour, it should like dark blue, black, dark green or something, not red and purple D; there's no red and purple in the BG!
2. 02:43:932 - You need a Timing point here. (Red line)
   
   BPM 180
   Offset 163932

1. 00:35:264 (1) - This shouldn't be nc. Remove nc please
2. 01:28:598 (1) - ^
3. 01:36:598 (1) - Finish? There's a sound in the music lol
4. 01:41:932 (1,2) - Miss clap at the end
   nothing else. Good mapping (:

1. AR-1 to the Hard diff
2. 00:13:598 (3) - I feel like three notes by placing on 1/2 rhythm is better than a slider.
3. 00:37:347 (1) - Remove nc. Makes your pattern messy imo.
4. 00:53:931 (1) - Finish? I saw that P o M u T a has added finish here on his/her diffs.
5. 01:15:264 (1) - Finish at the begin would be great imo.
6. 01:30:681 (1) - Same as above ^^^
7. 02:38:097 (1) - Can you just place in on (1)'s reserve? That's a bit ugly what you've done.
8. 02:59:931 (1) - Out of the screen, up and down D:

1. 00:33:598 (5) - This is a bit hard to read due to its shape and slider speed. Change like this if you want! http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/482087
   

   24,120,33598,2,0,B|160:168|156:344|156:344|176:172|324:196,2,520,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0

2. 00:44:265 (5) - Something like ^
3. 00:54:098 (1) - Finish? I saw you added on your Normal diff
4. 01:26:932 (5) - ^^ nah
5. 02:44:932 (5) - D;
6. 02:55:599 (5) - ^
   SV is so high, others are just crazy ;;

Flask wrote:

Haii~ Mod Request via My Mod Queue

[General]

1. I don't like your combo colour, it should like dark blue, black, dark green or something, not red and purple D; there's no red and purple in the BG! fmm Black is bad ;p; I postpone for the time being.
2. 02:43:932 - You need a Timing point here. (Red line) Cruel and Slave Fixed.
   
   BPM 180
   Offset 163932

[Cruel]

1. 00:35:264 (1) - This shouldn't be nc. Remove nc please
2. 01:28:598 (1) - ^
3. 01:36:598 (1) - Finish? There's a sound in the music lol
4. 01:41:932 (1,2) - Miss clap at the end
   nothing else. Good mapping (: All fixed!

[Slave]

1. 00:33:598 (5) - This is a bit hard to read due to its shape and slider speed. Change like this if you want! http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/482087
   

   24,120,33598,2,0,B|160:168|156:344|156:344|176:172|324:196,2,520,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0

2. 00:44:265 (5) - Something like ^ ok , fixed and ^
3. 00:54:098 (1) - Finish? I saw you added on your Normal diff
4. 01:26:932 (5) - ^^ nah :o
5. 02:44:932 (5) - D; :<
6. 02:55:599 (5) - ^ :p
   SV is so high, others are just crazy ;;

gl!

-Bakari- wrote:

[Son]

• 
  Nyanten \:3/

1. Personally, I don't like this circle size. If you're trying to keep it as [Hard] diff - your Slider Velocity is too fast. if it's [Insane] - your CS is too BIG. orz It's really easy to FC (even for me) and I like the CS lol
2. 00:14:431 (3) - hm.. if I'll make a miss at 00:13:098 (2) - i might miss reverse at 00:14:431 (3). Quite a bad thing then don't miss lol
3. 00:52:597 (1,2) - nazi - if you're trying to be symmetrical - do it this way? o3o nah, I don't wanna use symmetry here
4. 00:53:931 (1) - it would be a good idea to place here custom-kick hisound or Normal finish (~40%) custom kick? And I hear no resembling sounds of finish sound in the music
5. 02:47:764 (1,2,1,1) - looks like nw combos are a bit overused here. >.< I think it's fine o3o
6. 03:15:264 (1) - clap on slider's body o3o sounds good to me D: what do you mean "on slider's body"?
   
   I don't like Circle size. But otherwise you have nice diff here.

HellDawn wrote:

Son

02:09:264- it would be better if you put clap here and 02:10:597- here. I'm following the music, so no
02:13:931- finish uh ok~

Flask wrote:

[Son]

1. AR-1 to the Hard diff nah, I llike 8 and it plays much smoother
2. 00:13:598 (3) - I feel like three notes by placing on 1/2 rhythm is better than a slider. I hear nothing particular on 00:13:764 -
3. 00:37:347 (1) - Remove nc. Makes your pattern messy imo. it's not messy
4. 00:53:931 (1) - Finish? I saw that P o M u T a has added finish here on his/her diffs. I already denied it before
5. 01:15:264 (1) - Finish at the begin would be great imo. sure
6. 01:30:681 (1) - Same as above ^^^ ^^^
7. 02:38:097 (1) - Can you just place in on (1)'s reserve? That's a bit ugly what you've done. It's a custom stack, I don't really like the overlap
8. 02:59:931 (1) - Out of the screen, up and down D: it's not D:

Cruel:

1. So it's normal, that means you can HP+1 OD+1
2. 00:05:931 (1,2) - looks bad for me, do with them something like http://puu.sh/1qrHS ?
3. 00:11:264 (1) - finish at start
4. 00:27:264 (1) - ^
5. 01:15:264 (1) - ^
6. 01:17:931 (1) - ^
7. 02:49:265 (1) - ^
8. 02:54:598 (1) - ^
9. 03:05:265 (1) - ^

Son

1. That SV... it suits but makes a huge gap between Cruel and Son
2. I don't see a point why you use Tick Rate 2, song is pretty fast and has no sv changes, so I suggest to make this 1
3. 00:27:264 (1) - finish at start \\ so like in Son you can add more finishes on stronger notes (vocal changes, after big pauses etc)

Slave

1. That SV... anyway
2. Same for Tick Rate as on Son
3. In general for this diff. It seems for me (i'm not so good in such difficult insanes, e.g. this diff much looks like for approval) too many random spacing changes and jumps (not saying that's bad for hardcore players ) but I can't suggest any here. Sorry!

EvilElvisV2 wrote:

Hey!
[Slave]
01:35:264 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - something like this ? keep

SPOILER

02:02:097 (2,3) - ? fixed

SPOILER

02:58:431 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ? keep

SPOILER

You can ignore this , just suggestions...
Good luck!

Sieg wrote:

Hi!

Cruel:

1. So it's normal, that means you can HP+1 OD+1 keep
2. 00:05:931 (1,2) - looks bad for me, do with them something like http://puu.sh/1qrHS ?
3. 00:11:264 (1) - finish at start
4. 00:27:264 (1) - ^
5. 01:15:264 (1) - ^
6. 01:17:931 (1) - ^
7. 02:49:265 (1) - ^
8. 02:54:598 (1) - ^
9. 03:05:265 (1) - ^

other All fixed

Son

1. That SV... it suits but makes a huge gap between Cruel and Son
2. I don't see a point why you use Tick Rate 2, song is pretty fast and has no sv changes, so I suggest to make this 1
3. 00:27:264 (1) - finish at start \\ so like in Son you can add more finishes on stronger notes (vocal changes, after big pauses etc)

Tick Rate 2→1

Slave

1. That SV... anyway
2. Same for Tick Rate as on Son
3. In general for this diff. It seems for me (i'm not so good in such difficult insanes, e.g. this diff much looks like for approval) too many random spacing changes and jumps (not saying that's bad for hardcore players ) but I can't suggest any here. Sorry!

Tick Rate 2→1
I hope this can help a little, nice song choice! Good Luck!

EvilElvisV2 wrote:

[Son]
I'm can't mod this ( Cous imma Saten's fan \:D/ ) :D
Just suggestions : 02:00:097 (1,2) - maybe add some claps ? I don't hear any resemblance in the music though
Here :

SPOILER

http://puu.sh/1q56E

and here :

SPOILER

02:05:431 (1,2) - ^ as above

Sieg wrote:

Son

1. That SV... it suits but makes a huge gap between Cruel and Son And the gap between Son and Slave? SV doesn't mean much, as long as it fits
2. I don't see a point why you use Tick Rate 2, song is pretty fast and has no sv changes, so I suggest to make this 1 I think it fits, it's not only for SV changes. Also, it's what I normally use
3. 00:27:264 (1) - finish at start \\ so like in Son you can add more finishes on stronger notes (vocal changes, after big pauses etc) I'm not sure, I don't wanna att too many Normal-hitfinish since they are kinda loud

Sonnyc wrote:

Son:

00:17:431 (3) - 1 Grid up (Nazi) done
00:18:931 (1,3) - I prefer you to Start the combo at (3) nah, I still like it as it is
00:24:097 (2) - 1 Grid Right? hmm, did something different
00:29:264 (5) - NC for the pattern what pattern? o.o
01:17:264 (5) - ^ ^

Sonnyc wrote:

Hello~ Sorry for the huge delay..

First of all, I think the title should be "A Slave, A Son"

Cruel:

-- I think the red line should be at 02:43:931

00:23:931 (3) - Though this will break the pattern, Clap here may be nice for an emphasize fixed
00:26:597 (3) - IMO, Clap will fit here.. Instead of Finish fixed
01:23:264 (1,2) - If you can do, making the sliders not overlapping would look better fmm , but, keep looks good. i feel :3
01:25:931 (1) - As you did before, Add Finish at the Start and the end ok
02:34:597 (5) - 1 Grid Right will make a better shape, I believe. The current one is quite weird for me :o? x:360　move
02:42:264 (3) - Delete Finish at the end, or it sounds quite loud ok
02:46:598 (1) - For consistency, I hope you delete the NC ok
02:59:932 (1,2,3,4) - Well I havent mentioned this before, but I suggest you to place claps where you can here in the song, instead in the end of the slider ??
03:02:598 (1) - Delete Finish? keep
03:15:265 (4) - ^? keep

Slave:

00:16:514 (6,1) - 1 Grid down
00:37:264 (2) - Well, 2 Grid up will be better
00:54:097 (1) - I think starting at 00:53:931 will be better
All fixed
Orz Too hard for me