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rickyboi

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rickyboi 2012-10-18T16:56:10+00:00

Garven wrote:
So the opinions of BATs and other staff don't matter?

Where did this even came from? I never said that. What I was trying to point out was the BAT's and other players opinion on this is not a hivemind. Of course some would think this is good on AR 8 but some players would even want to play this more on AR 9. I'm sorry but I'm more of an AR 9 player.

Garven wrote:
I modded this on AR8 because your general velocity was too low for AR9. I wouldn't suggest the change otherwise.

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/46223
This map has 165 bpm and has the same slider velocity as mine which is 2. This got ranked without even arguing with Lunatic being on AR 9.

Garven

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Garven 2012-10-19T16:00:10+00:00

The opinion thing is because you cite "friends" that didn't say anything about the AR, but when people that are recognized for their experience in modding maps say something, suddenly that opinion is worth much less in comparison as shown with your response.

As for that map you cite, wow, that has unrankable speed changes, haha. Oh well. I'd argue that one would have AR8 as better too, but I didn't do a full test. Anyway, that's a different map compared to yours with different flow and patterns. For the map you have created here, AR8 fits the pace and patterns better.

Shilkey

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Shilkey 2012-10-19T19:40:46+00:00

I tried both AR 8 and AR 9.

AR 9 feels much better

vidya

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vidya 2012-10-19T20:22:54+00:00

Shilkey wrote:
I tried both AR 8 and AR 9.

AR 9 feels much better

This so much. AR8 makes it feel really slow and boring to me. It feels like the map loses it's flow especially on streams. Please keep it AR9!

threenash

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threenash 2012-10-19T20:30:33+00:00

AR9 is good. Bpm isn't slow (167's enough for AR9 imo) and ricki's diff the hardest diff in the mapset..

charlotteawoo

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charlotteawoo 2012-10-19T20:42:00+00:00

AR9 is much easier to read with these patterns.

Agka

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Agka 2012-10-19T20:54:56+00:00

I have to say about this map I've looked into both ARs.

This is one of those times where I wish there was an AR 8.5.

8 is too slow and 9 is a bit too fast, but as it seems players seem to prefer AR9.

So, while I'd discuss this further the map feels slightly more right towards AR9, but that's only because there's no 8.5.

Lemon-_old

Lemon-_old 2012-10-19T21:27:48+00:00

this map very good but ar 9 prefer

Nidert

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Nidert 2012-10-19T21:30:25+00:00

I tried the map with both AR 8 and AR 9 and IMO AR 9 fits the map better. The patterns also felt awkward with AR 8, but that might be because I've played too much hr today. Nonetheless I feel that AR 9 would be the best choice.

Elysion

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Elysion 2012-10-19T21:43:09+00:00

Tried the map on both AR 8 & 9, AR9 feels better, really.

jesse1412

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jesse1412 2012-10-20T03:42:09+00:00

Farex_old

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Farex_old 2012-10-20T03:49:53+00:00

I just sightread it on AR9, and it seemed to fit perfectly fine.
It's 167BPM, with a relatively high SV, decent jump spacing, and a few streams/triples spread about the map.

jesus1412 wrote:

nice

helion

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helion 2012-10-20T07:04:06+00:00

For reference: I played the map only once with both AR 8 and 9. Had a higher accuracy (97% vs 94%) and an easier time hitting the triangle jumps with AR9. I'd prefer the map with AR9 and I'm sure most people would.

AR is completely subjective anyway. I'm sure there are people who'd like to slap AR10 on everything as well as people who'd prefer lower ARs. I'm also sure most people would prefer AR9 for this map. There's also no rule that you have to use the most preferred/"most fitting" AR. AR can be used as an extra challenge too. I think that's completely up to the mapper.

rickyboi

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rickyboi 2012-10-20T09:44:11+00:00

Garven wrote:
The opinion thing is because you cite "friends" that didn't say anything about the AR, but when people that are recognized for their experience in modding maps say something, suddenly that opinion is worth much less in comparison as shown with your response.

As for that map you cite, wow, that has unrankable speed changes, haha. Oh well. I'd argue that one would have AR8 as better too, but I didn't do a full test. Anyway, that's a different map compared to yours with different flow and patterns. For the map you have created here, AR8 fits the pace and patterns better.

I'm getting tired of this. There's no such thing as a perfect AR in the first place. Not everyone's eyes are the same as yours. Ever since the "1 type of AR = 1 difficulty" was introduced, this game has lost its balance. Both AR 8 and 9 are definitely playable. If you think AR 8 fits the pace and patterns better then I will respect that but please try to respect the players who want to play this on AR 9 as well because I really think this fits better on AR 9. Just because you're a "BAT" doesn't mean what you're saying is correct and no one is because AR is totally subjective. The AR doesn't change anything from the map and gameplay. It's just how people see and play it. Debating with me especially with a VERY SENSITIVE topic such as an "APPOACH RATE" is not going to end well if we keep this up.

This is just going to be a battle of AR8 vs AR9 players

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Star Stream

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Star Stream 2012-10-20T12:03:22+00:00

For me, both AR8 and AR9 are good enough to play and read
and the Diff mapper want to stick to use AR9
then there's no reason to force the mapper to use AR8
Mapping is actually the act drawing the mapper's mind
why are you forcing? it's not your diff and even unrankable

EDIT : Sorry for mistake lol i was a bit upset with it. Fixed

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rickyboi

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rickyboi 2012-10-20T12:14:53+00:00

Star Stream wrote:
For me, both AR8 and AR9 are good enough to play and read
and the Diff mapper want to stick to use AR9
then there's no reason to force the mapper to use AR8
Mapping is actually the act drawing the mapper's mind
why are you guys forcing? it's not your diff and even unrankable

Thanks Star Stream.

Garven

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Garven 2012-10-20T12:41:20+00:00

Heh, who is forcing who? Have I said anywhere that you must change it? I havent even rechecked this yet, but I am less inclined to do so considering your increasingly poor attitude over the subject. A pity since its not even your set that your actions are harming.

Just take a step back, calm down, and have a snack of your preference. Ill give a response to all of your like-minded cohorts later, along with a recheck when time permits.

rickyboi

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rickyboi 2012-10-20T12:49:34+00:00

Garven wrote:
Heh, who is forcing who?

Go read your posts again. This first time I replied to you I already stated that "Let's not fight over this" and you even implied that I didn't care about the BATS opinions on this which is not true. I don't even know why you even said that. You're the one who needs to calm down.

Garven

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Garven 2012-10-20T13:08:47+00:00

If youre already saying that you dont want to fight over it, Im curious as to why, so I inquired further. Unfortunately the tone in which you delivered this reflected poorly and sent everything to the point it has escalated to. Kick back and wait. I should be able to check this in a couple days. Until then, youre just fanning flames.

BeatofIke

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BeatofIke 2012-10-20T14:32:02+00:00

I'll admit! When I first test played and modded this map over 6 months ago, I definitely preferred AR8 at first (I didn't metioned it in my mod though). But that because I wasn't able to read AR9 back then. I was not able to pass the map because of the high AR. As for today, I'm able to read AR9 much better.

My point is that both AR8 and AR9 plays well imo. I really don't mind which AR rickyboi uses.
Although for a 167 BPM song, AR8 would be more preferable for most people.
But whatever you do, don't use AR10! Hard rock/Double Time Mod will handle that XD.

Go get this map ranked PROGUY! This map had waited way too long! Don't give up! You can do it!
Fight!

PROGUY

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PROGUY 2012-10-20T14:56:43+00:00

BeatofIke wrote:
I'll admit! When I first test played and modded this map over 6 months ago, I definitely preferred AR8 at first (I didn't metioned it in my mod though). But that because I wasn't able to read AR9 back then. I was not able to pass the map because of the high AR. As for today, I'm able to read AR9 much better.

My point is that both AR8 and AR9 plays well imo. I really don't mind which AR Rickyboi uses.
Although for a 167 BPM song, AR8 would be more preferable for most people.
But whatever you do, don't use AR10! Hard rock/Double Time Mod will handle that XD.

Go get this map ranked PROGUY! This map had waited way too long! Don't give up. You can do it!
Fight!

Thanks BeatofIke, rickyboi, and everyone else!

Wreath

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Wreath 2012-10-21T12:07:40+00:00

you must change a composer name (artist name)

"Mr. Funky"×
"Mr.Funky"◎

Garven

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Garven 2012-10-22T10:38:36+00:00

Yeah, looks like the artist should be without the space, so go ahead and change that please.

Everything else checks out, though I'd still prefer AR8 on the Insane. q:

Kawayi Rika

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Kawayi Rika 2012-10-22T12:27:08+00:00

Hi ~ PROGUY ~

Few thing to here ~

Red : Must be fixed
Pink : Should be fixed
Purple : Just suggestions

[General]

Pls remove AudioLeadIn,no need to here.

[rickyboi's WS]

00:28:430 (4) - Move 1 gird left,looks better.
00:30:676 (2,4,6,7) - Why not make straight?
00:45:946 (6) - A bit hidden by 00:46:664 (3) - repeat point,try change slider angle.
00:50:616 (1,2,3,4) - I guess you missing make symmetry to here.
01:03:371 (1) - Remove short new combo.
01:49:359 (1) - ^
01:09:479 (3) - Move 1 grid left,symmetry with 01:09:119 (1,2).

[SS]

00:10:556 - How about add a circle to here? sound really nice.

[TS]

OD+1.
00:05:886 - Add finish,same as other diff.

That's all ~

Call me back recheck ~ when you are ready ~

Flanster

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Flanster 2012-10-22T23:22:18+00:00

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/59047

ohman..

BeatofIke

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BeatofIke 2012-10-23T04:31:54+00:00

lol

PROGUY

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PROGUY 2012-10-23T04:44:53+00:00

Wreath wrote:
you must change a composer name (artist name)

"Mr. Funky"×
"Mr.Funky"◎

Garven wrote:
Yeah, looks like the artist should be without the space, so go ahead and change that please.

I don't think that Engrish change is necessary...

Lolicore Flandre wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/59047

ohman..

Indeed.

Also, Kawayi Rika's mod:

[General]

Pls remove AudioLeadIn,no need to here. | The 2 sec. Audio Lead-in for each diff is needed to make sure that the video is played properly at the beginning.

[SS]

00:10:556 - How about add a circle to here? sound really nice. Sure!

[TS]

OD+1. ~~Okay.~~ Just found out that it will increase the star rating over 3 if I do so, making it unrankable.
00:05:886 - Add finish,same as other diff. Must've missed that one somehow... Thanks and fixed!

Kawayi Rika

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Kawayi Rika 2012-10-23T12:05:42+00:00

PROGUY wrote:
OD+1. ~~Okay.~~ Just found out that it will increase the star rating over 3 if I do so, making it unrankable.

Who's say that's unrankable?

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rickyboi

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rickyboi 2012-10-23T12:25:12+00:00

Kawayi Rika wrote:
[rickyboi's WS]

00:28:430 (4) - Move 1 gird left,looks better. - okay
00:30:676 (2,4,6,7) - Why not make straight? - fixed I guess
00:45:946 (6) - A bit hidden by 00:46:664 (3) - repeat point,try change slider angle. revised position.
00:50:616 (1,2,3,4) - I guess you missing make symmetry to here. - fixed
01:03:371 (1) - Remove short new combo. - sure
01:49:359 (1) - ^ - k
01:09:479 (3) - Move 1 grid left,symmetry with 01:09:119 (1,2). - done

Thanks for the mod Kawayi Rika.

@Update
Reduced HP by 1 because the combination of HP 7 and OD 8 is just overkill.
http://puu.sh/1hQfB

PROGUY

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PROGUY 2012-10-23T15:03:03+00:00

Kawayi Rika wrote:
PROGUY wrote:
OD+1. ~~Okay.~~ Just found out that it will increase the star rating over 3 if I do so, making it unrankable.
Who's say that's is unrankable?

Someone here said that way back in the previous mods, but I'm not 100% sure since it's only mentioned regarding difficulty spread in the Ranking Criteria.

Also the maps have been updated

Kawayi Rika

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Kawayi Rika 2012-10-23T15:11:14+00:00

That's not unrankable,many ranked map have over than 3 star rating for easy diif and you normal is really easy playable.

Scorpiour

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Scorpiour 2012-10-23T16:19:29+00:00

PROGUY wrote:
OD+1. ~~Okay.~~ Just found out that it will increase the star rating over 3 if I do so, making it unrankable.

the deadline is "the lowest diff should be shown no more than 3 stars" but not lower than 3.00 star rating.

and don't forget to give kds to modders please if you accept the suggestion :>

PROGUY

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PROGUY 2012-10-24T05:07:28+00:00

Oh, okay then. Updated OD of TS