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[added] More than 50 map favorites

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Topic Starter
Aqo
I'm actually checking maps regularly and already have over 200 mapsets I'd like to place a fav on.
eldnl
You shouldn't play that much then
nrii_old

eldnl wrote:

You shouldn't play that much then
nah thats not the issue, the issue is that this would diminish what the word "favourite" means by having so many "favourites"
bwross
I think the idea of limiting the online favourites is to maintain their value. With the supply limited, seeing a mapset with hundreds of people favouriting means something. When the number of new mapsets gets sufficiently large and peppy notices, it will probably go up again.
eldnl

nrii wrote:

eldnl wrote:

You shouldn't play that much then
nah thats not the issue, the issue is that this would diminish what the word "favourite" means by having so many "favourites"
there shouldn't be that much awesome maps then
Topic Starter
Aqo
I dig a lot and check a ton of maps all the time. My favs are hardpicked from many and really deserve it. I want to support mapper with +1 fav on their map when it deserves it but there's too many awesome maps today and it feels wrong to have to pick only a few.
Stefan

Aqo wrote:

I want to support mapper with +1 fav on their map when it deserves it but there's too many awesome maps today and it feels wrong to have to pick only a few.
To be honest, there is a very low number of unranked Maps which makes attention over their Favorite number. And mostly, Maps gets after the rank the attention, aka Fav, etc.
deadbeat
peppy has all ready stated that he wants a limit on this number to make you really think about which maps are your favorites. 50 should be enough for now
EDIT:

peppy wrote:

I like having a limit because it makes you think about which you consider the best of the best. Sure the overall number of maps is increasing, but you could just replace the maps you consider better into your favourites list.
Stefan
Pretty much this, what peppy said.
Nitojgrem
Here's peppys post of the last thread p/569964 where an increased number of favorited maps got requested... I think that's pretty clear~
(and yeah, from there is deadbeats quote~)
Topic Starter
Aqo

peppy wrote:

I like having a limit because it makes you think about which you consider the best of the best. Sure the overall number of maps is increasing, but you could just replace the maps you consider better into your favourites list.
The overall amount of maps is increasing A LOT lately, and there's a ton of new maps I'd like to add to my favs as an easier reference for people looking for great fun maps. You definitely need more than 50 today. More like 200-300. And this is after a ton of consideration and filtering over 4000 different playtested maps.
Experienced mappers are also able to produce more new extremely good maps faster, and there's quite some active experienced mappers right now.

I can't just replace one map I like for new maps I like anymore. No possible. Need a higher limit.
deadbeat
how many people even need 200-300 favorites. that's way more than what is needed. hell how many people have even filled up all 50 slots?
winber1
20 was already too much for me to fill to begin with. maybe my standards are too high.

and my favorites also aren't filled with hard things either. Sometimes i honestly feel like since the song is hard then it's automatically awesome, aqo. I know it's not really completely true, but yes (for example) saten's maps are good, but i would not favorite them, because they are not epically mapped and are not super epic songs.

my favorites are kinda outdated tho. and i don't really agree with what i have there lol
Topic Starter
Aqo

winber1 wrote:

and my favorites also aren't filled with hard things either. Sometimes i honestly feel like since the song is hard then it's automatically awesome, aqo. I know it's not really completely true, but yes (for example) saten's maps are good, but i would not favorite them, because they are not epically mapped and are not super epic songs.
take a look at my favorites, a lot of my favs are not hard at all; I don't fav based on what is hard, I fav based on what map is beautiful and fun and I'd recommend to others. imo there's really a lot of really-good maps now and the list limit has to be extended.

don't know how you can say stuff like Assailant or Creator or Chinden is not epic, anyway. has amazing flow, fits the song great, looks professional and slick, everything about it is great and I can't hope for better possible maps in this game

what an annoying limit.
winber1

Aqo wrote:

don't know how you can say stuff like Assailant or Creator or Chinden is not epic, anyway. has amazing flow, fits the song great, looks professional and slick, everything about it is great and I can't hope for better possible maps in this game
the songs aren't most amazing thing ever. I have taste in music i guess, but for song to be on my favorite, it has to be at a song where if I randomly find it/hear it/f2 it, i just HAVE TO PLAY IT CUZ IT'S THAT SONG... well for the most part.
Topic Starter
Aqo
I guess I must be one of the very few people in this game that don't like most of the music and don't give a damn about it and only play for the maps :'s
Mythras
Who cares about who favorites what map?

It makes them easier to find to play again.

What purpose does a maximum amount even remotely serve other than irritating people by not allowing them to remember fun maps outside of making a notepad document? (which is what i do, lol) Think logically people.
Luna

Unkind wrote:

Who cares about who favorites what map?

It makes them easier to find to play again.

What purpose does a maximum amount even remotely serve other than irritating people by not allowing them to remember fun maps outside of making a notepad document? (which is what i do, lol) Think logically people.
Just use Favourites A/B instead of Online Favs?
Stefan

Aqo wrote:

I guess I must be one of the very few people in this game that don't like most of the music and don't give a damn about it and only play for the maps :'s
If I would fav Beatmaps because of the Music, my List would go around +500.
Topic Starter
Aqo

Luna wrote:

Just use Favourites A/B instead of Online Favs?
Well I'm already using notepad documentation like Unkind said for my own listing. I just don't understand why the site limit is restricted. Sharing fun maps through fav'ing them is important in helping those maps get approved, too, by making other people notice them and spread the attention to them.
Kluddio
Feels like 50 songs is a bit to much would be hard to find with all those beatmaps in there.
I just save the beatmaps that i enjoy at the moment and clear them out after i'm done with them.
theowest
lol I only have one.

I don't understand why you would need so many. Do you really adore more than 50 beatmaps so much?

There's always favourites A and B.
Saten

theowest wrote:

lol I only have one.

I don't understand why you would need so many. Do you really adore more than 50 beatmaps so much?

There's always favourites A and B.
Works fine for ranked maps, but when editing the map (Pending/WIP), it'll disappear :V

I stopped adding favorites after 20 because the old limit (then accidentally removed favorites while mis-tapping on my smart-phone lol)
I didn't even know the limit was set to 50 (yes, shame on me)

One weird thing is that you can add your own submitted maps to favorites
ann_old
yeah! then it'll be like a favorites C, easier to fit in maps
theowest
the list is fine for now imo.50 maps is a lot, I think you should be happy with that.

peppy wrote:

I like having a limit because it makes you think about which you consider the best of the best. Sure the overall number of maps is increasing, but you could just replace the maps you consider better into your favourites list.

I guess more to the point is what do we use online favourites for? If it is as I intended (to let other players know what you like) then it should be limited; noone is going to sit and read a list of 1,000 maps.
Topic Starter
Aqo
bump

50 maps isn't a lot anymore
it used to be a lot a year ago maybe. but the amount of experienced and active mappers has exponentially grown as of late and not only that a lot more maps are being submitted but also a lot more of them are great quality maps that stand far on top of the majority/rest.

Please increase the limit to at least 200 to be more relevant for today's amount of beatmap sets. This doesn't hurt anybody and it's as easy to implement as changing one constant number somewhere, so why not

deadbeat edit: I'm not going to deny this. this will mostly likely be added at a later date. but not yet.
Topic Starter
Aqo
bump

you don't lose anything by letting people pick more favorites
I'm sick and tired of having to remove a map from favs to add a new one; there's way more than 50 truly amazing maps today that are hard to decide which is 0.001% subjectively better and it would only benefit users to be able to fav them all.

I also like looking at the favorites lists of other users who favorited the same maps as me (to find new maps that are likely to be relevant to my interests) and noticed others who've hit the 50 limit as well. please increase the limit. to at least 200. this is not 2009 anymore, where you barely had 10k maps and barely 2 of them were good; there's a lot of active experienced mappers today who spawn stunningly amazing maps at a steady rate and even picking between those is hard in itself, the limit of 50 is waaaay too restrictive for today
Tshemmp
Aqo, I have the feeling you don't really understand the term "favourite". You just cannot have 50 "favourite" maps. Favourite maps have to be something special, they can only be a very few, they have to be far superior compared to the average map. Just being good doesn't make a map one of your favourite ones.

If the category would be renamed from "favourite maps" to let's say "recommended maps" then I'd agree with you, then there shoudn't be a limit. But as long as they are called "favourite" maps the limit shouldn't be increased.

Maybe one should replace favourite maps with recommended maps?
deadbeat
i like how aqo says that there are tons of great new maps around, yet i don't really download that many anymore since i feel that maps are getting worse. hooray for opinions.

anyway. the number of favorites will most likely be increased at some point when time when peppy agrees to this :p
also didn't notice this earlier

Aqo wrote:

I just don't understand why the site limit is restricted.
to make you really think about which you consider the best of the best

Aqo wrote:

Sharing fun maps through fav'ing them is important in helping those maps get approved, too, by making other people notice them and spread the attention to them.
if your really using your favorite maps list for this then your doing it wrong. you have a userpage for stuff like that. plus it would be more effective sharing it with friends in-game or playing them in multiplayer so other people play them
Topic Starter
Aqo

Tshemmp wrote:

Aqo, I have the feeling you don't really understand the term "favourite". You just cannot have 50 "favourite" maps. Favourite maps have to be something special, they can only be a very few, they have to be far superior compared to the average map.
I think, the misconception here is that...

lets say somebody has only 100 maps.

He can have maybe 5 favorites out of those. 50 will really not make sense.

But with 1000 maps, 50 can be favorites. They're still hard-picked from a very large amount.

I download pending maps all the time and check out a ton of maps nonstop. I'm aware most people don't do this; but there's still A LOT of maps today, and a lot of maps worthy of a special spot.
Tshemmp
Well, I think there is a maximum of maps a person can have as favourites. The more maps someone plays the stricter his criterias will become for a map to become a favourite map. Every now and then I check my favourite maps and decide to remove some since they cannot hold my criterias anymore. Ofcourse if you have only 100 maps you will also only have like 5 favourites. But at some point the number of favourites just can't go up anymore. 50 maps just _can_not_ be favourites. This is would be against the meaning of the word favourite.

Recommended maps - yes. Favourite maps - no.
Kuro
Why would you need to have more than 50 anyway?
If you have too many you can't really call them favorites anymore.
And just having more than 1000 beatmaps doesn't mean that you'll have more favorites.

That's like saying I've got more than 1000 people so I'll need more kings. Implying that 50 kings wasn't already enough.

Personally, I don't even have online favorites, that's what i use favorites A for.
And favorites B are just extremely hard taiko maps.
Sakura
There's a difference between maps that you like, and maps that are your favourite, really imo favourite should be like only a single map, the best of them all in the player's opinion, but well we get 50 so...

fwiw when i started playing the max favourites was 20, and i barely needed it, then after long fighting peppy decided to increase it to 50, i highly doubt this number will be going up anytime soon.
TensaiRhythm
Thank you Lanturn for finding this, come on people! Let's make this happen :)
Karuta-_old_1
dat necro, this thread is just asking to be locked

the main purpose of faving a beatmap now is to get the BAT's attention to rank a map

We can pretty much use collection to organize the beatmaps now
TensaiRhythm
Thanks for the bump :)
drum drum

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

dat necro, this thread is just asking to be locked
that's not how things work here
deadbeat

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

the main purpose of faving a beatmap now is to get the BAT's attention to rank a map
please stop using the online favorites if this is what you're using it for. infact, if this is what people use it for now, then i'll just deny this
peppy
how does it actually get their attention?
TensaiRhythm
Seeing your comment gives me hope :3
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