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Itou Kanako - Hacking to the Gate (TV Size)

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Dangaard
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Dienstag, 4. Juni 2013 at 18:35:05

Artist: Itou Kanako
Title: Hacking to the Gate (TV Size)
Source: Steins;Gate
Tags: Steins Gate 5pb. Nitroplus nitro+ opening Sallad4ever
BPM: 161
Filesize: 13353kb
Play Time: 01:30
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2,83 stars, 108 notes)
  2. Insane (5 stars, 243 notes)
  3. Normal (4,56 stars, 189 notes)
  4. Sallad's Hard (4,94 stars, 249 notes)
Download: Itou Kanako - Hacking to the Gate (TV Size)
Download: Itou Kanako - Hacking to the Gate (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Steins;Gate opening
now with creditless video!

El Psy Congroo
MMzz
Can I make a taiko?

I hope this message isn't to short.
Topic Starter
Dangaard

MMzz wrote:

Can I make a taiko?
Sorry but I don't have any means to control/check the quality of taiko maps, since I don't play taiko myself, so I'm not so fond of adding taiko guest diffs in general.
Apricot
naisu mappu!!!!!!!!                                  
Reed R Gale
Maybe its just me but in my opinion the first three beats (the ones in the static in the beginning of the song) well, I like the beatmap without them. Again, just my opinion. I love the rest of the map!

Cheers!
Furawa
EL PSY CONGROO!
Your message is too short.Your message is too short.
ibavnoci
Great song, great map :)

+ where did you get that Suzuha picture?
Topic Starter
Dangaard

ibavnoci wrote:

Great song, great map :)

+ where did you get that Suzuha picture?
Thx, found the pic with google.
Apriy
El Psy Congary...!
AngelHoney
what different about hard and insane o.o;
Topic Starter
Dangaard

AngelHoney wrote:

what different about hard and insane o.o;
right now only the diff settings and audio + video files (and I flipped all patterns)
Sallad4ever
Topic Starter
Dangaard
Dankeschön~
Sallad4ever
I've try changing some, if you feel that there are something needs mentioning then don't hesitate to say it

http://puu.sh/192qJ
Chloe
hey, I have two insane diff , can you receive them as guest diff? : D
Topic Starter
Dangaard

Chloe wrote:

hey, I have two insane diff , can you receive them as guest diff? : D
I'm sorry but I prefer having 1 Insane diff only ;)
KanaRin
Welcome back Dandan >~<b
plz get this ranked :D

## will check it when I'm free!
ignorethis
it's been two years. good luck having you map ranked! ;)
cRyo[iceeicee]
o.o
Easy
  1. Insane and Normal using ST-2, Easy should use it aswell ?
  2. 00:06:010 (1) - use soft note for tail
  3. 00:07:128 (2) - soft note
  4. 00:07:501 (3,4) - ^^^
  5. 00:08:992 (5) - ^^ arrow/tail
  6. 00:11:973 (1) - finish
  7. 00:48:681 (3) - prefer to start this slider 1 tick earlier and end it at 00:49:054
  8. 01:00:979 (3) - start 1 tick earlier , end at 01:01:538
  9. 01:08:433 (3) - finish
  10. 01:14:395 (3) - finish
  11. 01:20:358 (3) - finish
  12. 01:26:321 (3) - finish
  13. 01:29:861 (1) - start spinner at 01:30:979, and fill emptiness between 01:29:302 (3) - and spinner
Normal
  1. usage of spacing is quite random
    00:12:718 (2) - 1.6 / 1.8
    most of the map using 1.2 but there are a lot of places where u changed to 1.3+
  2. same thing about changing some N notes to soft in intro part
  3. 00:51:662 (5,6) - change to slider ?
  4. 01:07:687 (3) - finish
  5. 01:13:650 (3) - ^
  6. 01:19:613 (3) - ^
  7. 01:25:576 (3) - ^
  8. 01:29:861 (1) - start spinner at 01:30:979, and fill emptiness between 01:29:302 (3) - and spinner
Sallad's Hard
  1. AR-1 because current one same with insane
  2. HP+1 to be same with OD (such a silly reason haha)
  3. Your diff using ST-1 while other diffs using ST-2, just saying
  4. 00:08:619 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - dont understand this rhytm
    i think you should
    00:08:992 - add note
    00:09:737 (3) - remove
    00:10:110 - add note
  5. 00:23:526 (4) - remove clap, add whistle
  6. 00:35:451 (5) - prefer clap instead whistle
  7. 00:41:228 (4) - whistle ?
  8. 00:45:513 (3) - remove note, and add note at 00:45:886 (following vocal in this part more intuitive for me,sound at white tick 00:45:513 can be easily ignored because its really quiet ._.
  9. 00:51:290 (2,3) - delete #3 and add repeat at #2
  10. 00:57:439 (3) - delete, add 00:57:811, same thing about following vocal
  11. 01:06:383 - add 1/1 slider
  12. 01:19:054 (1,2,3) - a bit confusing placement and missing note at 01:19:426
Insane
  1. intro can use some soft notes too, but current is also fine maybe because larger amount of beats *shrugs*
  2. 00:23:526 (4,1) - dont like big jump on the stack, prefer smth like this 00:33:960 (4,5,1) -
  3. 00:35:638 (1) - why NC ?
  4. 00:39:364 (3) - finish
  5. 01:07:687 (3) - tail finish
  6. 01:13:650 (3) - ^^
  7. 01:19:613 (4) - ^^
  8. 01:25:575 (4) - ^^
  9. 01:29:861 (1) - end spinner at 01:30:979 and add 3notes at 01:31:538, 01:31:911, 01:32:283

ignorethis wrote:

it's been two years. good luck having you map ranked! ;)
Topic Starter
Dangaard
Thank you, everyone and thank you cRyo for the mod. I have basically applied most of the finish-hitsound suggestions on the chorus parts and the spinner at the end of my own diffs.

I'm going to fill the gaps at the end and try to get Sallad for his diff ( I have changed the AR to 7 btw). Also I will probably reduce the volume of some sections to make them less noisy. Concerning the differences in the slidertick rate: Isn't that allowed? At least in the Easy diff it definitely makes more sense with ST-1.

Edit: fixed everything I planned to fix (except Sallad's diff).
Nyquill
please get this done :D
Topic Starter
Dangaard
Update
Timing: changed offset from 4520 to 4527
Easy: changed AR from 4 to 3
Sallad's diff: changed AR from 7 to 8, set tick rate from 1 to 2, reduced volume of hitsounds (~10%)
Insane: changed AR and OD both from 8 to 9, removed some beats at the very beginning

Since Sallad hasn't replied yet, I will take care of fixing his diff on further mods myself.
:arrow: back to pending!
Andrea
~General~
  1. It would be nicer if Hard difficulty could actually use same kiai like the other difficulties does.
  2. Disable the Letterbox on all the difficulties since you don't really need that.
~Easy~
  1. HP Drain +1 to balance the difficulty settings.
  1. 00:14:961 (1) - Add a finish on slider start to emphasize with the music.
~Normal~
  1. HP Drain +1 and Approach Rate -1 for a better difficulty setting, it feels too unbalanced at the moment.
  1. 00:10:489 (1,2) - Too many slider repeats might be confusing to play for beginners, not sure about this.
  2. 00:14:961 (1) - Same as Easy.
  3. 00:17:197 (5) - Again, I'm not sure if this could be fine on a Normal.
  4. 00:19:806 (1) - I'd remove this new combo here, I don't think it's necessary.
  5. 00:26:887 (1,2,3,4) - Too many circles in a row compared to the rest of the map, I'd add a slider at least here.
  6. 00:31:731 (1) - I'd remove this new combo here, I don't think it's necessary.
  7. 01:11:421 (6) - Add a new combo here, it feels too long if you don't.
  8. 01:17:384 (6) - If you fix the one above, do the same here.
  9. 01:23:347 (6) - Once again, same thing.
~Sallad's Hard~
  1. Increase HP Drain by 1 or 2 ticks at least, it's way too low right now for a Hard difficulty.
  1. 01:15:893 (1,3) - These two sliders could be stacked better if you disable the grid snap.
  2. 01:19:061 (1,2) - This jump feels too forced compared to the rest of the map, space it a bit less.
~Insane~
  1. I think it would be more challenging if you increase HP Drain by 1 tick at least.
  1. 00:06:204 (1) - Remove this new combo from here, it's not necessary.
  2. 00:14:961 (1) - Same as Easy.
Great map, good luck man!
Topic Starter
Dangaard
Thanks Andrea, I fixed everything except for the following:

Normal: AR setting; too many slider repeats/circles at the beginning
Insane: HP drain setting
happy30
yooooo dandan
I might appear to be finishhitsound-drunk sorry >.>

[Easy]
00:07:135 (2) - I feel like this note sounds better on red, (1/2 back) but maybe it's me

00:44:775 (1) - add a finish? soft-hitfinish perhaps?
00:50:738 (2) - add a finish on start?
00:56:701 (1) - add soft finish?
01:23:347 (3) - extend this slider by 1/2?

I think the chorus can use some more finish spam!
how about adding it to:
01:09:930 (1) - startpoint
01:11:421 (3) - startpoint

and then here again: 01:15:893 (1) - on startpoint
etc etc

[Normal]
00:13:471 (3) - add a finish on start? yeah, it's a bit finish spammy but i hear it back in the song :?
00:44:775 (1) - finish on start?
00:47:011 (1) - ^
00:56:700 (1) - ^
same finish suggestions as easy for chorus

good diff, sorry for lame finish hitsound mod :(

[Sallad's Hard]
00:10:489 (1) - add finish!
00:29:775 - add a note here? like at 00:17:756 (5,6,1) -
00:35:086 (4,1) - the soft finish hitsounds feel a bit out of place here. maybe remove them
00:38:812 (1,2,3) - add some finished here D:
01:13:098 (1) - finish on start?
01:14:961 (2,1) - improve the curve of these sliders with the new algoritm
01:23:905 (2) - add a whistle on end to finish this whistle pattern here?
01:25:023 (1) - add finish?

[Insane]
00:28:750 (1) - make the sampleset of this note "soft"?
same finish hitsound suggestion as in easy
Topic Starter
Dangaard
I added some finish hitsounds and applied some of your ideas. Sankyu happi

Edit: Insane's OD is back to 8

Edit 2: Do you think I should increase AR on the Easy a bit?
orioncomet
[Sallad's Hard]
- I don't really like jumps in Hard diff, especially the ones I'm going to points out since they were kind of confussing (if they were on normal or jump on basic pattern it'd be fine, fine pattern to me are like 01:01:918 (3,4,5) - or 00:26:887 (1,2,3,4) - ), so I would like to ask you to reduce their spacing a bit or make them less confussing:
00:17:011 (2) -
00:50:365 (4) -
01:24:278 (3) -
00:52:974 (4,5) - Hmm.. Wrong spacing. from (3) to (4) has same spacing as (1,2,3) @_@ so basically they all have same spacing when (3) and (4) have different beat.
01:25:955 (5) - ^ and is hard to tell the different of spacing.



The rest is fine, recheck them and call me back.
Topic Starter
Dangaard

orioncomet wrote:

[Sallad's Hard]00:52:974 (4,5) - Hmm.. Wrong spacing. from (3) to (4) has same spacing as (1,2,3) @_@ so basically they all have same spacing when (3) and (4) have different beat.
01:25:955 (5) - ^ and is hard to tell the different of spacing.
Fixed these. The others actually seem okay to me, since they are pretty essential for the pattern Sallad has built there. Thanks for modding.
orioncomet
Yes~ Looked much better and easier to tell spacing now.
Shohei Ohtani
Hacking to the Gate (TV Size) Part 6

Go go go
eveless
el psy congroo!
Sonnyc

eveless wrote:

el psy congroo!
and gratz Dangaard!~~
Frostmourne
best Hacking to the Gate
I thought it would be in grave forever. Congratz Dangaard :)
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