Gimmie a max bpm estimate to work with and a map and we'll see how it translates
With mods on there can be a dead zone in the star where it would intersect a red ring of sorts...MMzz wrote:
But if you're on doubletime won't the map need to adjust to the new BPM. Mods like hardrock should also effect it.
Take all the changes and average it?Mithost wrote:
The problem with having a high max number for BPM is that while other elements like approach rate and overall difficulty often reach the higher parts of it's spectrum, BPM will only reach 2/3rds of the way for some of the hardest ranked songs in the game (without mods). BPM should go to 220 or 250, and any BPM that goes over that through mods or whatever get stars.
Next thing for bpm... What do we do about BPM changes?
That could work.RBRat3 wrote:
Take all the changes and average it?Mithost wrote:
The problem with having a high max number for BPM is that while other elements like approach rate and overall difficulty often reach the higher parts of it's spectrum, BPM will only reach 2/3rds of the way for some of the hardest ranked songs in the game (without mods). BPM should go to 220 or 250, and any BPM that goes over that through mods or whatever get stars.
Next thing for bpm... What do we do about BPM changes?
so then maybe select maybe 4-5 categories. and those categories could be calculated using things that would effect the overall difficulty? like, as you said, average distance snap, approach rate, OD, circle size, stream length/ number of streams, and the stream density of a songTheVileOne wrote:
If they were to add this I would like the stats represented to be things that actually reflected the actual difficulty of the map. Things like average distance snap, approach rate, OD, circle size, stream length/ number of streams, and the stream density of a song. A large amount of factors can be lumped together in major categories like Accuracy, Technical, and Endurance ratings. Each map could also be given an intensity rating.
The way I wanted it is an addon button that shows a page for it, from a default point you wont even see it on the song select until clicked upon...Timekiller wrote:
I wholly support the idea of showing/visualizing more stats per map, but I can't say I like the "diamond" way. Simple - it takes up too much space, and map selection interface already feels cramped enough. I'd be fine with plain old horizontal bars - for OD, DR, CS, and AR, with colors ranging from dark green (easy) to crimson(insane). Pros: intuitive, expandable (stream intensity, spin rate and other things would be REALLY nice to see :3). Cons: plain, still might take up lots of space depending on implementation.
I'm referring to the large space that the diamond inside a circle takes up, regardless of whether it's shown by default :3 where diamond shows 4 stats, you can place 6-7 bar graphs plus some additional info like pass rate, actual bpm spread per song time and whatever else.RBRat3 wrote:
The way I wanted it is an addon button that shows a page for it, from a default point you wont even see it on the song select until clicked upon...
So I really don't see what space your referring to unless its that tiny 16x16px icon
Well it is a bar graph at its heart but adding more arms/legs doesn't take up anymore room. Theoretically its limitless but whether or not its discernible is another question XD...Timekiller wrote:
I'm referring to the large space that the diamond inside a circle takes up, regardless of whether it's shown by default :3 where diamond shows 4 stats, you can place 6-7 bar graphs plus some additional info like pass rate, actual bpm spread per song time and whatever else.
I always seem to forget that most things can be made configurable If choosing between diamond/bars/something else would be an option, I support. Here, have my precious starRBRat3 wrote:
All that aside a graph is a graph is a graph... I don't see any reason not to slap a button on that page that will display these value sets in any applicable graphing format you wish after all it is just numbers with eyecandy
None of them are a final design they're just concept... Im sure peppy would do his own take on the look.Kuro wrote:
I think this is a great idea, however just out of curiosity, which one of these screen shots will be the final design because if it's going to partially cover up your own score, like the first picture, I'd be better off without it. I think the one under alternate looks best. It's a nice size and it looks like it is almost proportional to the scoreboard underneath and I like the fact that the black BG is as transparent as the scoreboard. This will really make it blend well. So.... In my opinion... Support!!