12:05 grumd: : 00:24:231 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - try to use polygon circles here, because this is a bit off
12:08 grumd: : 00:28:049 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - hm, i feel that placing the second triple at the next white tick sound better
12:08 grumd: :
http://puu.sh/YD0E12:08 grumd: : like this
12:13 ztrot: : hmm
12:13 ztrot: : hold on
12:15 grumd: : 00:28:595 (1,2,3,4) - also i wish you could get rid of upbeat sliders (watch the timeline) and add a bit variety to
12:15 grumd: : sliders
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/41280812:18 grumd: : 02:33:776 (9) - btw unrankable.
12:19 grumd: : Slider anchors/nodes must not be used to manipulate slider speeds
12:20 ztrot: : no it isn't
12:20 grumd: : it is :v
12:20 ztrot: : that is the personal view of some staff members
12:20 ztrot: : I use them all the time
12:20 ztrot: : even charles uses them
12:20 grumd: : that that makes no sense in that place
12:20 grumd: : *but that
12:20 ztrot: : slow down ;~;
12:21 grumd: : no, really ._.
12:21 ztrot: : I'm still trying to fix other things btw
12:21 grumd: : kk
12:21 ztrot: : I will get to it I'm not sure what parts you are talking about yet
12:21 grumd: : eh, i'm providing timelinks, no?
12:21 ztrot: : yeah
12:22 ztrot: : but I'm skimming trying to make fixes
12:23 grumd: : 02:12:640- from here
12:23 grumd: : 03:05:004- to here
12:23 grumd: : it needs a lot of improvement imo
12:23 grumd: : you just use everywhere symemtrical jumps all over the playfield
12:23 grumd: : but it was nice to move the player into one part of a screen to do a bit of jumps, then into another..
12:23 grumd: : like
12:24 grumd: : 00:08:276 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
12:24 grumd: : some jumps in the left, some in the right
12:24 grumd: : just adding a bit of similar patterns in the end would improve it a lot
12:25 grumd: : you just focus too much on symmetry about the center of the playfield, this turns out in too overmapped and
12:25 grumd: : kinda boring patterns
12:26 grumd: : 02:32:413 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - parts like this are ridiculous, really... it needs to be redone.
12:27 grumd: : 02:41:004 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - this too, can be done it far better ways
12:27 grumd: : 02:48:095 - and from here
12:27 grumd: : 02:51:913 - to here
12:28 ztrot: : oh you do know the point is to be really hard to play right
12:28 grumd: : it's just my opinion, and i highy suggest to find a bit of inspiration again and try to make it variated and NOT
12:28 grumd: : ONLY symmetrical over th center
12:29 ztrot: : but symmetrical is my thing :<
12:29 grumd: : you can make it symmetrical, but move to the left or to the right and then add the same pattern on the other side
12:29 grumd: : just don't focus on the center please
12:29 grumd: : that will make it far more enjoyable :s
12:30 grumd: : and i never look at difficulty here, because i can't play it anyway
12:30 grumd: : i just think about it in an esthetic way
12:30 grumd: : 02:51:435 (8) - move this to the center (256;192)
12:30 grumd: : 02:51:367 (7) - this two grids down
12:31 grumd: : oh wait, it's totally not symmetrical..
12:31 grumd: : then just redo a bit this stream too, okay?
12:32 grumd: : that's my point, i think i can't suggest anything else
12:39 ztrot: : hmm
12:39 ztrot: : well I'm making some changes
12:40 grumd: : good to hear :3
12:44 ztrot: : make sure to post this irc log for kds
12:44 ztrot: : plox
12:45 ztrot: : not sure if you are gonna like my changes tho
12:45 ztrot: : I wanted to keep most the the end the same the start got a bit of a face lift tho
12:45 grumd: : you think it was helpful? meh. dunno if i deserve that kd
12:46 ztrot: : yes it was
12:46 ztrot: :
http://puu.sh/YDlX12:46 ztrot: : that pattern wasn't even there till just now
12:48 grumd: : (3) must be moved a bit down
12:49 grumd: : it's too close to center now
12:50 ztrot: : done
12:50 ztrot: : I can't update till you post tho
12:50 ztrot: : kinda one of my personal things
12:50 ztrot: : I like all changes to be logged
12:50 grumd: : well k
