This was how I felt like a year ago. I was like this is fking impossible, and then I see the rankings, and I'm like OMFG WTFAJSDLF;JASKLGJLKA FUCK LIFEFLKAJSDLFKJASLGA;LKAJ and I rage quit.Saph1 wrote:
I have problem doing AR:10 songs. Sometimes I wonder if I lack the reaction. Any advice?
Honestly, I have to say this is probably a bad idea. You should really just get reaction time. This can help sometimes, such as on slow sections/draining sections, but doing this on other parts of the map is much less efficient than just reacting to the approach rate. Also, if patterns start to overlap, it becomes impossible to understand where the follow points are leading to.Purlpo wrote:
Try paying attention to follow-points as they will become visible before the actual circles.
It's not entirely bad... you're correct that just having the reaction speed is good enough, but being able to react to followpoints can make reacting to sudden sv changes easier. It's most noticable on maps that really don't follow distance spacing at all, if you suddenly see a huge line of followpoints over the entire screen (and it doesn't start from a circle that's already visible) then you can know a new combo with a huge sv/spacing is incoming and you also know where the two potential circle starts for it are a moment earlier than they actually become visible for you.winber1 wrote:
(on followpoints -) Honestly, I have to say this is probably a bad idea.
oh look its (probably) another unrankable piece of shit mapAqo wrote:
You don't really notice them until you start playing maps with fullscreen circlejumpsG0r wrote:
I hardly ever superliminally notice followpoints, but I believe that they have a subliminal effect on my target finding.
have fun
Probably because high-skill Top 40 replays for every map are readily available to everyone. Players, especially newer ones, are more driven to improve than have fun, which makes them overly conscious of their skill level and their rate of progress. I'm guessing that makes them somewhat impatient, and when they see that they're playing the same difficulty maps as last week, they feel like they're not getting better while everyone else is somehow moving from lol-plinking Normals to SS'ing Insanes in a couple weeks. Which leads them to think there's some kind of secret training regime everyone else knows about but isn't letting on.G0r wrote:
What gets me is that we see so many threads requesting help on "getting from x level to x level." This thread is a little less guilty than those; but, in fact, there have been a thousand threads about these subjects. I'm not complaining, though. I enjoy giving advice to people.
lol dat map.Aqo wrote:
have fun
Lol! This made me laugh pretty hard. I think that this is exactly what I've seen in every one of those threads. They ask this general question, everyone tries to help, then we all argue about the theory of certain playing techniques, and then the OP says, "K, thx, bye!" and we never see them again. XDXGeneral2000 wrote:
Meanwhile, more experienced players don't really know to help, since I think most people develop their own skills over a long period of time and many plays using techniques that are comfortable for them (with maybe a few pointers here and there, like turning off mouse acceleration and "get a tablet lol"). So they tell the OP in question how they play. Then everyone else does the same, and the thread turns into a "whose playstyle is better" argument while the OP quickly thanks everyone and ducks out forever.
Actually, AR8 and OD10 is quite awesome to train your accuracy on. It's a bit too harsh maybe, so OD9 is a better choice, but it's not really a bad thing to play on at all. It's just a different kind of training, where you don't need physical strength or insane reaction, just the finesse and technique to succeed. This helps in coordination as well, where certain jumps and patterns just occur naturally to you (and yes lots of 4+4 or 4+2 short stream combinations too).Purlpo wrote:
Followpoints are training wheels. OD10 and AR08 are worse.
I understand. I play OD10 somewhat frequently to improve at it. It is still a horrible thing though. From my experience, getting a 3% improvement on OD10 over a month is quite an accomplishment.lolcubes wrote:
Actually, AR8 and OD10 is quite awesome to train your accuracy on. It's a bit too harsh maybe, so OD9 is a better choice, but it's not really a bad thing to play on at all. It's just a different kind of training, where you don't need physical strength or insane reaction, just the finesse and technique to succeed. This helps in coordination as well, where certain jumps and patterns just occur naturally to you (and yes lots of 4+4 or 4+2 short stream combinations too).Purlpo wrote:
Followpoints are training wheels. OD10 and AR08 are worse.
Yes. Dimmed background (and no video) is a must for HR or HD.Purlpo wrote:
PS. I forgot to mention; play with the background dimmed all the way down or, if you are feeling naughty, delete the background so you have a black screen instead. It helps a lot.
or you could remove the follow points and get used to actually playing the AR... follow points make the map appear at a lower AR if you use them correctly which is why I've started removing them.Wishy22 wrote:
Start by playing maps with a spacing big enough to get follow points appear between each hit. When you just start playing HR you will be using follow points for real for the first time in your osu! life, they really help A LOT when you just begin. You'll notice this after a few hours/days of practice, if you play any map where you don't really get follow points because the spacing is too small, you gonna have a lot of trouble reading the map.
It may take time to "warm up" your reading skills too, for example, I find it very hard to read AR 10 when I just start playing (since I'm not really active at all), but after a few minutes I can play it normally. So yeah if today you are doing GREAT after a practice and tomorrow you suck, it's normal.
I've only just begun to be able to HD HR maps with good accuracy, but for me it's not memorization. I can see the circles for sure as they come. You do begin to get super comfortable with the map after you play it fifty times trying to do it, and that obviously is when I get my best accuracy play throughs, but I believe that quick reactions to what I am seeing is more important to me with this mod than memorization. I always imagined that very high speed HR maps might have to be memorized, though. Some of the HR play that I've seen is so fast that I can't imagine myself doing it by sight yet. That might just be my inexperience, though. It always looks impossible until it's not.Winshley wrote:
So I'm the one who's being a weirdo for memorizing all the notes' location for AR10 maps then?
Who me?silmarilen wrote:
says the person that HR's every insane out there
But this is the opposite of what you said earlier just now. It means the AR doesn't go up.silmarilen wrote:
they are both identical, because AR isnt linked to bpm.
also AR doesnt increase by 1.5x like the bpm when putting on DT
quoting to make it clear -silmarilen wrote:
the time between the approach circle appearing and the approach circle hitting the note also decreases so yes, technically it increases the AR
As AR is absolute, not relative, the answer for the first question would defintely be 1.Aqo wrote:
Is this tied to BPM or is it a DT-specific thing?
For example if I took two maps that have AR10 in their default setting.
Map A is 200bpm
Map B is 300bpm
with nomod, would the AR for maps A and B be:
1. identical
2. higher for map B
with DT on map A and nomod on map B, would the AR be:
1. higher for map A
2. identical
?
(logic would dictate that the only possible combinations are either 1&1, or 2&2)
