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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Emotions.

Well, money's not the only thing those who're in control are after. Popularity also guarantees their "control time".
Emotions? Well, then I got it.

And the longer they are able to control the longer they can make use of their power they've got through the media.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

And the longer they are able to control the longer they can make use of their power they've got through the media.
True.

Everything's mostly politicized now, no? Let's hope the Japanese culture we love doesn't go that way.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Everything's mostly politicized now, no? Let's hope the Japanese culture we love doesn't go that way.
That's why I never know what intel I can believe or not. When I'm really interested in something I'll search for more than just one source of information because I can never be sure what is right and what isn't. After gathering intel I make up my own opinion on the case.

Regarding japanese culture... let's just hope, yea. I really don't know what people who actually start thinking are going to do about what mankind is making up. But I know we're gonna pay for everything some time.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

That's why I never know what intel I can believe or not. When I'm really interested in something I'll search for more than just one source of information because I can never be sure what is right and what isn't. After gathering intel I make up my own opinion on the case.

Regarding japanese culture... let's just hope, yea. I really don't know what people who actually start thinking are going to do about what mankind is making up. But I know we're gonna pay for everything some time.
Same here.

That depends. What should we pay for? And why? Not everyone needs to pay for what some random dude/group has done (though mostly has to). But I wonder if a person/group will actually change humanity. It's hard to do so, don't you think?

Still hoping for the best for Japanese Culture, though.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

That depends. What should we pay for? And why? Not everyone needs to pay for what some random dude/group has done (though mostly has to). But I wonder if a person/group will actually change humanity. It's hard to do so, don't you think?
I believe that no human is innocent. I'd say the evolution of mankind wasn't planned and we are some kind of "accident" destroying anything and everything. Sure not everyone wants to destroy the environment and some people may say they didn't do anything. But just their existence makes them a human which makes them guilty. A human is wasting lots of ressources and energy to become an adult and we have too many already (over 7.000.000.000). And all these people are going to live. The amount of energy needed to provide this is unbelievable and I doubt the earth is capable of carrying so much of us. Even people who want to "rescue" the planet are somewhat silly to me. We don't need to save the planet. Planet can save itself. We just have to die out to help the planet saving itself. So yea, I consider myself being as guilty as everyone else. I waste vast amounts of energy and so on and so forth. So... I am vegetarian (not because the animals are sooo cute, just because if mankind would be fed with all the stuff animals get fed to produce meat mankind wouldn't have to worry of world hunger) and I am not going to have children (which prevents them from wasting more energy - they simply do not exist. Besides that, I do not like children even though I can handle them pretty good). I do not say my way of living and thinking is the "right" way (so I'm not going to force people to live like I do, my way of living should be voluntarily). But at least I'm satisfied with it. Besides that, I'm offending mankind as the race "human". Some individuals are just fine (even though they are guilty, but we all are guilty). Oh and to state it clearly, I do not believe in god or have faith in anything so I'm not one of those poeple who say "The sin of mankind" or something.

I don't believe it's necessary to change humanity. I believe it's necessary to wipe it out. And yea, I agree, a single person or group may not change humanity or people's minds.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

I believe that no human is innocent. I'd say the evolution of mankind wasn't planned and we are some kind of "accident" destroying anything and everything. Sure not everyone wants to destroy the environment and some people may say they didn't do anything. But just their existence makes them a human which makes them guilty. A human is wasting lots of ressources and energy to become an adult and we have too many already (over 7.000.000.000). And all these people are going to live. The amount of energy needed to provide this is unbelievable and I doubt the earth is capable of carrying so much of us. Even people who want to "rescue" the planet are somewhat silly to me. We don't need to save the planet. Planet can save itself. We just have to die out to help the planet saving itself. So yea, I consider myself being as guilty as everyone else. I waste vast amounts of energy and so on and so forth. So... I am vegetarian (not because the animals are sooo cute, just because if mankind would be fed with all the stuff animals get fed to produce meat mankind wouldn't have to worry of world hunger) and I am not going to have children (which prevents them from wasting more energy - they simply do not exist. Besides that, I do not like children even though I can handle them pretty good).

I don't believe it's necessary to change humanity. I believe it's necessary to wipe it out. And yea, I agree, a single person or group may not change humanity or people's minds.
Whoa. All that came from a mere human. Kinda blasphemy, no?

Though it is correct to say that no human is innocent (in that viewpoint), I wouldn't really kill my race off. I just want the race to be peaceful. Though I know this is impossible since humanity forbids it.

And no, wiping mankind will not change anything. Exterminating the (currently) only known Intelligent/sentient being here would leave the universe to its own course. Nature will not thank anyone for anything. Perhaps Earth and other resources might be left intact, but to no avail, most of them are no use without humanity.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Whoa. All that came from a mere human. Kinda blasphemy, no?

Though it is correct to say that no human is innocent (in that viewpoint), I wouldn't really kill my race off. I just want the race to be peaceful. Though I know this is impossible since humanity forbids it.

And no, wiping mankind will not change anything. Exterminating the (currently) only known Intelligent/sentient being here would leave the universe to its own course. Nature will not thank anyone for anything. Perhaps Earth and other resources might be left intact, but to no avail, most of them are no use without humanity.
I edited something in the last few minutes, sorry for that, I just forgot something.

Blasphemy? Maybe. I do not have faith in humanity or anything.

I'd rather want the race to be peaceful too. But as you mentioned it's impossible. Mankind is how mankind is. It's just itself. And that's the problem.

Hm. An interesting viewpoint I say. So you think without mankind some ressources would have no use at all? But if mankind would suddenly disappear, no one would care because no one would be there intelligent enough to grasp what's happening. In my opinion, when we go, nature will restore itself, take over the world again and the ecosystems will be repaired in some... let's say thousand years? More? From my point of view it's a bit egoistic to say the planet would be left behind intact but to no avail because humanity isn't there to use it's resources or to guide life (by "life" I mean any living form, the unvierse and so on and so forth). We will never know exactly what will happen, we just can assume or speculate. But as I do not like my own kind I'd prefer to see none of them anywhere anymore.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

I edited something in the last few minutes, sorry for that, I just forgot something.

Blasphemy? Maybe. I do not have faith in humanity or anything.

I'd rather want the race to be peaceful too. But as you mentioned it's impossible. Mankind is how mankind is. It's just itself. And that's the problem.

Hm. An interesting viewpoint I say. So you think without mankind some ressources would have no use at all? But if mankind would suddenly disappear, no one would care because no one would be there intelligent enough to grasp what's happening. In my opinion, when we go, nature will restore itself, take over the world again and the ecosystems will be repaired in some... let's say thousand years? More? From my point of view it's a bit egoistic to say the planet would be left behind intact but to no avail because humanity isn't there to use it's resources or to guide life (by "life" I mean any living form, the unvierse and so on and so forth). We will never know exactly what will happen, we just can assume or speculate. But as I do not like my own kind I'd prefer to see none of them anywhere anymore.
Oh right, sorry.

Same here. I only have faith in understanding, so far.

Yeah. Humanity's killing itself and others around it.

Well, I'm just getting on the available facts right now. Perhaps mother nature will replace mankind. But so far, there's hardly any evidence for that. And also, not every resource in the universe is easy to get as it is. Sometimes, an intellect is needed to process it. Those who need high amount of intellect may go to waste. But alas, we do not know for sure.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Well, I'm just getting on the available facts right now. Perhaps mother nature will replace mankind. But so far, there's hardly any evidence for that. And also, not every resource in the universe is easy to get as it is. Sometimes, an intellect is needed to process it. Those who need high amount of intellect may go to waste. But alas, we do not know for sure.
The question is: are these ressources really needed? I don't think so. There may be the possibility of processing certain ressources to gain certain things but not everything is needed. And if one needs an intelligent species like mankind to process something then only mankind needs it (since other species can live without it). So it wouldn't change anything if they're untouched.

But as we both state, nobody will ever know.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

The question is: are these ressources really needed? I don't think so. There may be the possibility of processing certain ressources to gain certain things but not everything is needed. And if one needs an intelligent species like mankind to process something then only mankind needs it (since other species can live without it). So it wouldn't change anything if they're untouched.

But as we both state, nobody will ever know.
Then why do they exist? For humanity? Nah, that's just too arrogant. Coincidence? Probably. No one shall ever know...

Perhaps we should step backwards a little here? We're nearing the void of silence (if you get it).
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Then why do they exist? For humanity? Nah, that's just too arrogant. Coincidence? Probably. No one shall ever know...

Perhaps we should step backwards a little here? We're nearing the void of silence (if you get it).
I'd assume it's a coincidence since I can't think of any other reason. But yeah, no one knows.

As you stated, here comes this little silence where no one knows what to say. But... woah. Just woah. I just asked what an otaku is or what it could mean and we ended up talking about humanity. That's some big ass discussion. And everything without offending each other. I feel kind of satisfied. Even though we had some opposing opinions in the end it turned out peacefully, just what we wanted.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

I'd assume it's a coincidence since I can't think of any other reason. But yeah, no one knows.

As you stated, here comes this little silence where no one knows what to say. But... woah. Just woah. I just asked what an otaku is or what it could mean and we ended up talking about humanity. That's some big ass discussion. And everything without offending each other. I feel kind of satisfied. Even though we had some opposing opinions in the end it turned out peacefully, just what we wanted.
Exactly.

Discussions and opposing opinions are a part of understanding, no? Opposing opinions create a better option from the previous opinions to choose.

Also, I'm glad that this turns out well. Emotions must be set aside in discussions like this, no?
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Discussions and opposing opinions are a part of understanding, no? Opposing opinions create a better option from the previous opinions to choose.

Also, I'm glad that this turns out well. Emotions must be set aside in discussions like this, no?
And since we know, discussions only can turn out well if the opposing opinions are stated clearly and the others don't offend it directly because, as you stated below, emotions must be set aside. At least a bit so that one is able to focus on the subject so one can discuss about it. It's necessary to see other's viewpoints and to review your own to come to a solution or conclusion.

I have to admit, in the end there actually were some emotions regarding mankind. It's complicated. I see them outside and feel nothing for them (so basically you could say I REALLY don't care if they'd suddenly die out) but in the same moment I dislike them the most I am able to (this is where I WOULD care if they'd die out). I won't say "I hate them" because that's not true. I just don't want most of them to be in my periphery. As I stated before, I dislike humanity as the whole thing, some individuals are fine.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

And since we know, discussions only can turn out well if the opposing opinions are stated clearly and the others don't offend it directly because, as you stated below, emotions must be set aside. At least a bit so that one is able to focus on the subject so one can discuss about it. It's necessary to see other's viewpoints and to review your own to come to a solution or conclusion.

I have to admit, in the end there actually were some emotions regarding mankind. It's complicated. I see them outside and feel nothing for them (so basically you could say I REALLY don't care if they'd suddenly die out) but in the same moment I dislike them the most I am able to (this is where I WOULD care if they'd die out). I won't say "I hate them" because that's not true. I just don't want most of them to be in my periphery. As I stated before, I dislike humanity as the whole thing, some individuals are fine.
Agreed.

Same here. But kinda LOL seeing another person having "dilemma" about hating mankind.

OT: I'm on my damn phone. And it's being bombarded.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Same here. But kinda LOL seeing another person having "dilemma" about hating mankind.

OT: I'm on my damn phone. And it's being bombarded.
It's really difficult, isn't it? I mean you and I are humans but we hate mankind so we would've had to hate ourselves, wouldn't we? The interesting thing is I don't hate myself, I just don't care if I suddenly die or not. You know, my life feels like I'm living for nothing, if everything I learn is useless. I know much but I feel if I didn't know anything. It's kinda strange.

Oh, OT on OT? Sorry about your phone by the way.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

It's really difficult, isn't it? I mean you and I are humans but we hate mankind so we would've had to hate ourselves, wouldn't we? The interesting thing is I don't hate myself, I just don't care if I suddenly die or not. You know, my life feels like I'm living for nothing, if everything I learn is useless. I know much but I feel if I didn't know anything. It's kinda strange.

Oh, OT on OT? Sorry about your phone by the way.
As you said, we only hate humanity as a whole existence. But it's a bit funny seeing you talking a bit emotional here. I don't really feel like I'm living for nothing since I don't see that faraway for how I live my life in the current time. Also, I would try to take those who're enemies of peace along with me before I die out.

Yeah, OT on OT. It's OT-ception since this is an OT yet not an OT since I'm OT-ing with a person in control of the T but doesn't warn the OT. So I added an OT to the so-called OT to state my mind.

And thanks. My phone's filling up with notifications and messages from my friends.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

As you said, we only hate humanity as a whole existence. But it's a bit funny seeing you talking a bit emotional here. I don't really feel like I'm living for nothing since I don't see that faraway for how I live my life in the current time. Also, I would try to take those who're enemies of peace along with me before I die out.

Yeah, OT on OT. It's OT-ception since this is an OT yet not an OT since I'm OT-ing with a person in control of the T but doesn't warn the OT. So I added an OT to the so-called OT to state my mind.
Well, there are so many things that mean nothing to me, even my life itself. I'm not saying I want to die. I'm just saying I don't care whether I'm dead or alive. There is no thing I'd live for or I'd say is worth living for.

OTastic!
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

Well, there are so many things that mean nothing to me, even my life itself. I'm not saying I want to die. I'm just saying I don't care whether I'm dead or alive. There is no thing I'd live for or I'd say is worth living for.

OTastic!
LOL, same with me. Though I prefer dying for someone I care / peace so that my life had some meaning at the very least.

Nice line.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

LOL, same with me. Though I prefer dying for someone I care / peace so that my life had some meaning at the very least.
There is noone and nothing I'd die for. At least noit at the moment. I guess I'll keep on living 'til there's some serious reason to die. That's one conception of life an death dude. I get a strange feeling everytime I think of the fact I don't care at all whether I'm dead or alive while most of the people force themselves to be alive at all cost.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

There is no one and nothing I'd die for. At least not at the moment. I guess I'll keep on living 'til there's some serious reason to die. That's one conception of life an death dude. I get a strange feeling everytime I think of the fact I don't care at all whether I'm dead or alive while most of the people force themselves to be alive at all cost.
True. Though I don't really think about how other people try to stay alive. I'm just making the best of my life until it's decision time.

Guess what influenced my viewpoint?
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

True. Though I don't really think about how other people try to stay alive. I'm just making the best of my life until it's decision time.

Guess what influenced my viewpoint?
I do not care either. But on the other hand it's bothering me a bit. What's the meaning of this, staying alive at all cost? Must be painful in my eyes.

Beats me. Could be anything from your sorroundings 'til discussions like this or the realization that media can be a horrible weapon and so on and so forth. There might be several reasons in changing the viewpoint like this.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

I do not care either. But on the other hand it's bothering me a bit. What's the meaning of this, staying alive at all cost? Must be painful in my eyes.

Beats me. Could be anything from your sorroundings 'til discussions like this or the realization that media can be a horrible weapon and so on and so forth. There might be several reasons in changing the viewpoint like this.
Well, people have different perspectives and objectives. Perhaps they have someone or something that had to keep/protect and maintain, etc.

I meant the "dying for a reason" thing.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Well, people have different perspectives and objectives. Perhaps they have someone or something that had to keep/protect and maintain, etc.

I meant the "dying for a reason" thing.
Might be the case. Another possibility might be they fear to die. they really fear death like it's a bad thing. Or they just do not want to die because... yea... they just don't want to die.

Oh, sorry, missed that one.
But again, beats me.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

Might be the case. Another possibility might be they fear to die. they really fear death like it's a bad thing. Or they just do not want to die because... yea... they just don't want to die.

Oh, sorry, missed that one.
But again, beats me.
Yeah, I suppose so. But it's kinda LOL to fear the inevitable.

Answer
Answer: Anime
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Yeah, I suppose so. But it's kinda LOL to fear the inevitable.

Answer
Answer: Anime
Yes, it is. This is what I consider weak. The inability to accept the inevitable, the only thing in life that's guaranteed.

That's one influence. How comes?
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

Yes, it is. This is what I consider weak. The inability to accept the inevitable, the only thing in life that's guaranteed.

That's one influence. How comes?
Agreed. I would happily accept death since there's no way around it. It's guaranteed. Just a matter of time and how "painful" it is.

Let's just say I had something good after a long break from anime.

Mobile Suit Gundam 00
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Agreed. I would happily accept death since there's no way around it. It's guaranteed. Just a matter of time and how "painful" it is.

Let's just say I had something good after a long break from anime.

Mobile Suit Gundam 00
It's the only thing I care about. How painful my death will be. I do not want to die a horrbile death being mauled by some big ass creature and also I do not want to die from falling down a huge building or such. I want to die as peacfully as I want this world to be.

*takes a quick peek of what this is*
Looks good. Nice suggestion, thank you. I think I'll watch it right after Hellsing. So, yeah, anime are capable of changing minds. Hell, why wouldn't they?
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

It's the only thing I care about. How painful my death will be. I do not want to die a horrbile death being mauled by some big ass creature and also I do not want to die from falling down a huge building or such. I want to die as peacfully as I want this world to be.

*takes a quick peek of what this is*
Looks good. Nice suggestion, thank you. I think I'll watch it right after Hellsing. So, yeah, anime are capable of changing minds. Hell, why wouldn't they?
Nah, I wouldn't care how painful my death will be. As long as it has the purpose I wanted, pain is second to none. But if there's no purpose, then I would want to have it peaceful.

You're welcome. If you like Mecha, then go ahead. I like how Setsuna (the main protagonist) sees the world and tries to change it. He's the reason why I'm starting to see the world rot.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Nah, I wouldn't care how painful my death will be. As long as it has the purpose I wanted, pain is second to none. But if there's no purpose, then I would want to have it peaceful.

You're welcome. If you like Mecha, then go ahead. I like how Setsuna (the main protagonist) sees the world and tries to change it. He's the reason why I'm starting to see the world rot.
Funny. I'm some sort of masochist so pain should suit well for my death. But affliction and pain while I live is more enjoyable than pain right before I die I assume, since after my death it's over. Forever.

Yes, I like Mecha. I like futurism, SciFi and so on.
Thinking about it... I have some trouble to determine the exact reason why I'm thinking the way I do currently. But when I take a peek around me I see a world I do not want to live in. I have the feeling I wouldn't belong here.
Tsukimi Luna
Lol too much textt!!!
I think the thread is getting derailed.
Maybe not but yeah i dont really know Dx
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Restless Spirit

Yuu-Chii wrote:

Lol too much textt!!!
I think the thread is getting derailed.
Maybe not but yeah i dont really know Dx
Yeah, we started out discussing about what otaku means and ended up discussing about humanity, mankind, life and death.
KuroiHiKirby
otaku > human mind > humankind in general > life+ death
Otaku is the answer to everything. I'm okay with this.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

Funny. I'm some sort of masochist so pain should suit well for my death. But affliction and pain while I live is more enjoyable than pain right before I die I assume, since after my death it's over. Forever.

Yes, I like Mecha. I like futurism, SciFi and so on.
Thinking about it... I have some trouble to determine the exact reason why I'm thinking the way I do currently. But when I take a peek around me I see a world I do not want to live in. I have the feeling I wouldn't belong here.
For you, that is.

Then I suppose you're already that way from the start? And if you don't belong here, where else? We can't exactly find another world at the current time.

Powersocke wrote:

Yuu-Chii wrote:

Lol too much textt!!!
I think the thread is getting derailed.
Maybe not but yeah i dont really know Dx
Yeah, we started out discussing about what otaku means and ended up discussing about humanity, mankind, life and death.
I humbly apologize for the mess that I made.

KuroiHiKirby wrote:

otaku > human mind > humankind in general > life+ death
Otaku is the answer to everything. I'm okay with this.
For this subforum, yeah.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Then I suppose you're already that way from the start? And if you don't belong here, where else? We can't exactly find another world at the current time.
Might be the case though I don't know really. I remember, in elementary school I got interested in death and pain at some point. I knew that pain was basically a bad thing but I still got a slight interest for it. As I grew older I did research on the net as far as I could and I was a bit different from most of the people I met back then. Not quite as different as I now might be but a bit more than usual. That's what I'm remembering. But what caused the interest I do not know.

If I do not belong here, I really can't tell where else since there's no other world I could live in. But I know that on this planet I do not want to live with all those other humans around me. I don't feel comfortable with that at all. Maybe there's just no place for me anywhere.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

Might be the case though I don't know really. I remember, in elementary school I got interested in death and pain at some point. I knew that pain was basically a bad thing but I still got a slight interest for it. As I grew older I did research on the net as far as I could and I was a bit different from most of the people I met back then. Not quite as different as I now might be but a bit more than usual. That's what I'm remembering. But what caused the interest I do not know.

If I do not belong here, I really can't tell where else since there's no other world I could live in. But I know that on this planet I do not want to live with all those other humans around me. I don't feel comfortable with that at all. Maybe there's just no place for me anywhere.
Kinda similar to mine. But I did no research or interest in death. All those "weirdness" showed up in middle high; where 00 supposed to be an entertainment, yet I took Setsuna's conception and compared it to reality.

Don't die yet. You would be a great ally in living a temporary peaceful life.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Kinda similar to mine. But I did no research or interest in death. All those "weirdness" showed up in middle high; where 00 supposed to be an entertainment, yet I took Setsuna's conception and compared it to reality.

Don't die yet. You would be a great ally in living a temporary peaceful life.
I won't call it weridness since it's my serious way of thinking. I don't think I could tell of anything "weird" because to most of the common people I am weird myself.

As I stated before I do not want to die. I'm just living as far and good as I can and then suddenly disappear when it's finally time. I just said I do not want to live in a world like this. But that's not a reason I'd say I want to die. I'll keep on living because I have a certain conception.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

I won't call it weridness since it's my serious way of thinking. I don't think I could tell of anything "weird" because to most of the common people I am weird myself.

As I stated before I do not want to die. I'm just living as far and good as I can and then suddenly disappear when it's finally time. I just said I do not want to live in a world like this. But that's not a reason I'd say I want to die. I'll keep on living because I have a certain conception.
That's why I'm stating ourselves as "weird", but that's from common viewpoint. As far as I can tell, I'm not categorizing anyone including myself.

Sorry, story-habit.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

That's why I'm stating ourselves as "weird", but that's from common viewpoint. As far as I can tell, I'm not categorizing anyone including myself.
Another thing we have in common, right? LOL... "in common"... if you get it. I just had to smile.
But don't we categorize others by saying they're commoners? Or when we say "He has a common viewpoint" and such?
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

The Ribbon Red wrote:

That's why I'm stating ourselves as "weird", but that's from common viewpoint. As far as I can tell, I'm not categorizing anyone including myself.
Another thing we have in common, right? LOL... "in common"... if you get it. I just had to smile.
But don't we categorize others by saying they're commoners? Or when we say "He has a common viewpoint" and such?
I smiled.

Yeah, I suppose that's true. So I guess it's arrogant of ourselves to say that "We're not categorizing anyone" while we still call most people "common" huh?

[Viewpoint changed]

Thanks a lot. Now I realized my mistake.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Powersocke wrote:

Yeah, I suppose that's true. So I guess it's arrogant of ourselves to say that "We're not categorizing anyone" while we still call most people "common" huh?

[Viewpoint changed]

Thanks a lot. Now I realized my mistake.
I realized it too. So I guess I have to change my point of view, at least that part of it, again. But this doesn't matter because when I can achieve a satisfying feel for myself by changing my point of view into a certain direction I go for it. Since it would be arrogant not to. So there are back to the basics then I suppose. As we only can tell: This is a human, not an otaku, a commoner or a weirdo. He/she's just as human as I am. The only difference is their personality (which includes everything from their point of view on certain things to everything they like/dislike). I know it's across-the-board not to catgeorize people. But that's how it's supposed to work.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

I realized it too. So I guess I have to change my point of view, at least that part of it, again. But this doesn't matter because when I can achieve a satisfying feel for myself by changing my point of view into a certain direction I go for it. Since it would be arrogant not to. So there are back to the basics then I suppose. As we only can tell: This is a human, not an otaku, a commoner or a weirdo. He/she's just as human as I am. The only difference is their personality (which includes everything from their point of view on certain things to everything they like/dislike). I know it's across-the-board not to catgeorize people. But that's how it's supposed to work.
Yeah...

I guess categorizing is a part of humanity's intellect, huh? I mean, that's why we have science, no?
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Yeah...

I guess categorizing is a part of humanity's intellect, huh? I mean, that's why we have science, no?
Yep. But I'd say: Categorizing things such as wood, stone, metal and stuff is okay since no one's complaining about facts. The difficult thing is to categorize personalities, or persons in general, don't you think?
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

Yep. But I'd say: Categorizing things such as wood, stone, metal and stuff is okay since no one's complaining about facts. The difficult thing is to categorize personalities, or persons in general, don't you think?
That's why I said that it's a part of humanity. Even though we try to stop it, humanity is a part of us.

But that's why we have to understand, no? Understanding could prevent/halt the negative side of humanity, even if it's just temporary...
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

That's why I said that it's a part of humanity. Even though we try to stop it, humanity is a part of us.

But that's why we have to understand, no? Understanding could prevent/halt the negative side of humanity, even if it's just temporary...
And so we are a part of humanity. I guess we can't help it.

Hm. Do we have to understand through categorizing everything or do we have to understand that categorizing everything isn't always the right way? Or even both at the same time? What do you think?
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

And so we are a part of humanity. I guess we can't help it.

Hm. Do we have to understand through categorizing everything or do we have to understand that categorizing everything isn't always the right way? Or even both at the same time? What do you think?
Yeah. Wish I was born as another intellectual peaceful creature, but then I would never get a chance to love Japanese culture or even be an otaku...

Both, obviously. We shall categorize at some point for easier understanding and we shall understand why categorizing isn't always the answer.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Yeah. Wish I was born as another intellectual peaceful creature, but then I would never get a chance to love Japanese culture or even be an otaku...

Both, obviously. We shall categorize at some point for easier understanding and we shall understand why categorizing isn't always the answer.
True.

Exactly what I was thinking of in the first place.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

True.

Exactly what I was thinking of in the first place.
Oh, how I admire Japanese culture. Perhaps, it's already in my blood? But likes and dislikes are decided by a person themselves, no?
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Oh, how I admire Japanese culture. Perhaps, it's already in my blood? But likes and dislikes are decided by a person themselves, no?
As we are human I believe we all share the same kind of blood. Of course, not the blood type. But I think you know what I mean.
I have to admit, I don't know too much about the japanese culture itself regarding religion, politics and so on. I love to watch anime and listen to the language but in most cases, that's it. Perhaps I should dig a bit in the internet for some info. But... sometimes, there are words and games from japan I don't fully understand. Then I got find some answers and find out certain things. I think that's how it's supposed to work sometimes. Hmm.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

As we are human I believe we all share the same kind of blood. Of course, not the blood type. But I think you know what I mean.
I have to admit, I don't know too much about the japanese culture itself regarding religion, politics and so on. I love to watch anime and listen to the language but in most cases, that's it. Perhaps I should dig a bit in the internet for some info. But... sometimes, there are words and games from japan I don't fully understand. Then I got find some answers and find out certain things. I think that's how it's supposed to work sometimes. Hmm.
Well, I'm understanding the entire thing so that I'm more accustomed to it. My wish is to live there, anyway.

And the blood thing... It's just a saying or some sort; I'm sure you understand.
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Restless Spirit

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Well, I'm understanding the entire thing so that I'm more accustomed to it. My wish is to live there, anyway.

And the blood thing... It's just a saying or some sort; I'm sure you understand.
I have a friend who's occupied finding out things about japanese culture. Maybe I should start talking to him more often than I do at current.

Yep, I understood, don't worry about that. Though I have to say thats also a part of me. If it's biological related or such I'll try to mention the biological components first, even if it's not meant like that.
The Ribbon Red

Powersocke wrote:

I have a friend who's occupied finding out things about japanese culture. Maybe I should start talking to him more often than I do at current.

Yep, I understood, don't worry about that. Though I have to say thats also a part of me. If it's biological related or such I'll try to mention the biological components first, even if it's not meant like that.
Well, that depends on you. It's your choice, anyway. But to understand anime more, then it's best to do so.

LOL, that's too literal, no? I was just saying that since the blood relations that I've previously stated before.
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