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saymun

Garven wrote:

[Insane]
00:44:856 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - These hitsounds were a stark contrast to the mapping prior.
00:58:177 (2,3) - It'd be nice to have these not stacked with the 1
01:25:345 (3) - The rekiai isn't really necessary...
02:37:093 - ^
02:47:163 (1,2) - Why normal finishes now?
04:09:423 (1) - Does this really need to be that long? q:
Nothing really -wrong- per se, though it does have a really old-style feel to it. The patterns don't flow together very well, and there's a lot of returns to stacks which is a fairly antiquated style, hehe.
Yes, i am an old-style mapper back from the past :P nobody remembers me anymore. Anyway, can you fix up what you think is good Breeze? I've quit osu! again D:
Topic Starter
Breeze
OK, if you allow it, I'll fix your diff for you, sad you quit again :(
wcx19911123
悠久的史前玩意么o.o

[General]
timing有点问题,总体的offset我感觉需要+5左右,然后从第二个kiai开始offset就差的有点远了,有些地方打出来20+ms late。。 我个人感觉offset是从02:45:905 - 附近开始变化的,建议找点timing高手看看0.0
除了Insnae,其他难度都是kiai喷泉,不过喷的次数都不同,最好弄一样
其实我感觉sliderborder似乎太白了o.o
不去掉letterbox么,有4:3的视频

[Normal]
00:19:471 (1,2,3) - 这spacing不一样啊
01:56:814 (1,2,3,4) - 这太难了,请至少换成两个sldier
02:04:576 (3,4,5,1) - 这个虽然叠起来了不过感觉还是有点难o.o
后面很多这种就不再提了0.0
03:49:283 (4) - ctrl+j,flow好点

[BexXz no Hard]
00:37:723 - better to fill this break imo , for example add note here? and here 00:38:982 - ?
00:51:149 - ^
00:59:751 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern is really confusing , cuz the spacing is totally random.. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/255896
01:03:107 (1,2,3,4) - ^

01:11:079 - spinner end at here?
01:48:212 - fill this bread?
02:01:639 - ^
02:08:352 - ^ , maybe add a spinner?
03:21:801 (1,2,3) - remove some claps , or change to whistle plz , it sound really odd now

[Insane]
00:16:324 (2) - 可以考虑换成1/6折返slider
00:18:003 (2) - ^,后面的不提了,随带说下如果后面的三连circle改成1/6的话记得最好用slider,不然在这难度里会显得太难
00:24:296 (7) - remove?前后的同样节奏都没note,唯独这里有一个,略违和
00:50:520 - 我建议把这个NC挪到00:50:310 - 这里,好读点的感觉
01:30:800 (5,1) - 这个anti-jump感觉不合曲,打起来也违和,最好换个pattern
03:02:080 (7) - remove?
03:25:787 (3) - 这个shape真的可以再弄好点。。

[saymun no Insane]
set slider tick rate to 1 plz , 0.5 is now unrankble
00:16:324 (2,3,4,5) - I suggest change this to slider
00:18:003 (2,3,4,5) - and this , it is hard to play 1/6 beats at song's starting , cuz players don't know there are 1/6 rhyme at here
00:23:037 - if you fix ^ , then keep here as circles is fine , cuz players already know here is 1/6 rhyme
01:46:954 - move newcombo to 01:46:744 - plz , or the jump is really too hard to read
03:38:794 (2,1) - this anti-jump feel reall odd , stack or move them far a bit plz
04:00:192 (1,2,3) - this jumps are kinda huge imo , reduce spacing a bit?
04:06:905 (1,2,3) - ^

好长orz
没什么大问题,不过感觉很多小地方有很大的完善空间,比如slider shape,几何大跳的shape之类的
加油o.o
Topic Starter
Breeze

wcx19911123 wrote:

悠久的史前玩意么o.o

[General]
timing有点问题,总体的offset我感觉需要+5左右,然后从第二个kiai开始offset就差的有点远了,有些地方打出来20+ms late。。 我个人感觉offset是从02:45:905 - 附近开始变化的,建议找点timing高手看看0.0 :arrow: 之前也很多人看过timing了, 现在这个已经是我能找到的最合适的了, 这歌鼓点不准, 所以是按基本对应歌词来的
除了Insnae,其他难度都是kiai喷泉,不过喷的次数都不同,最好弄一样 :arrow: 我的难度保持一致, GD就没必要了吧?
其实我感觉sliderborder似乎太白了o.o :arrow: 还好吧...
不去掉letterbox么,有4:3的视频 :arrow: k

[Normal]
00:19:471 (1,2,3) - 这spacing不一样啊 :arrow: fixed
01:56:814 (1,2,3,4) - 这太难了,请至少换成两个sldier :arrow: k
02:04:576 (3,4,5,1) - 这个虽然叠起来了不过感觉还是有点难o.o :arrow: 改了
后面很多这种就不再提了0.0
03:49:283 (4) - ctrl+j,flow好点

[BexXz no Hard]
00:37:723 - better to fill this break imo , for example add note here? and here 00:38:982 - ?
00:51:149 - ^
00:59:751 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern is really confusing , cuz the spacing is totally random.. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/255896
01:03:107 (1,2,3,4) - ^
:arrow: changed
01:11:079 - spinner end at here? :arrow: k
01:48:212 - fill this bread?
02:01:639 - ^
02:08:352 - ^ , maybe add a spinner?
03:21:801 (1,2,3) - remove some claps , or change to whistle plz , it sound really odd now :arrow: changed to custom 1

[Insane]
00:16:324 (2) - 可以考虑换成1/6折返slider :arrow: 确实是1/6拍, 不过感觉1/6太难抓了, 还是1/4拍好了
00:18:003 (2) - ^,后面的不提了,随带说下如果后面的三连circle改成1/6的话记得最好用slider,不然在这难度里会显得太难
00:24:296 (7) - remove?前后的同样节奏都没note,唯独这里有一个,略违和 :arrow: 声音也不大应该还好吧, 主要是想更顺点
00:50:520 - 我建议把这个NC挪到00:50:310 - 这里,好读点的感觉 :arrow:
01:30:800 (5,1) - 这个anti-jump感觉不合曲,打起来也违和,最好换个pattern :arrow: 标错时间了么?
03:02:080 (7) - remove?
03:25:787 (3) - 这个shape真的可以再弄好点。。 :arrow: k

[saymun no Insane]
set slider tick rate to 1 plz , 0.5 is now unrankble :arrow: k
00:16:324 (2,3,4,5) - I suggest change this to slider
00:18:003 (2,3,4,5) - and this , it is hard to play 1/6 beats at song's starting , cuz players don't know there are 1/6 rhyme at here
00:23:037 - if you fix ^ , then keep here as circles is fine , cuz players already know here is 1/6 rhyme
01:46:954 - move newcombo to 01:46:744 - plz , or the jump is really too hard to read :arrow: k
03:38:794 (2,1) - this anti-jump feel reall odd , stack or move them far a bit plz
04:00:192 (1,2,3) - this jumps are kinda huge imo , reduce spacing a bit?
04:06:905 (1,2,3) - ^
其他没怎么改, 我感觉也没什么问题, saymun做图风格就这样

好长orz
没什么大问题,不过感觉很多小地方有很大的完善空间,比如slider shape,几何大跳的shape之类的
加油o.o
谢谢mod
wcx19911123
fixed some stuff via IRC
and bubbbled
Topic Starter
Breeze
Thanks bro, 2 years old map wheaaaaaaaaa
Garven
Sorry I took so long. I suck as a BAT, haha.

[General]
Tick rate 2 sounds great with this song

[Normal]
01:15:695 - Move this delayed break to 01:14:856 -
01:39:821 - Move this delayed break to 01:40:030 -
02:50:310 - Move this delayed break to 02:50:520 -

[Hard]
00:29:541 (1) - Extend this to 00:31:429 - and delete the break. Maybe add whistle too.
01:18:842 - This kiai is badly positioned.
01:36:254 (2,3) - Really bad spacing
02:23:667 (4) - I'm really hesitant about these spiral sliders because of the mm effect. I'm not exactly sure what do to here. Applies to 01:13:177 (4) - too.
02:30:380 (1,2) - Wha- why are these in 1/3 snap?
02:32:058 (1,2) - These too. Sounds really bad. :/
02:41:289 (3,4,5) - Spacing
02:42:968 (2,3,1) - ^
02:47:163 (3,4) - Those finishes stick out bad
03:47:500 (2,3) - Snapped wrong. Use 1/6 snap and add an extra circle.

[Insane]
02:48:842 (1) - Extend to 02:50:520 - or add a circle there
03:52:640 - Extend break to 03:52:640 -

「saymun]
02:48:842 (1) - Extend to 02:50:520 - or add a circle there
03:21:801 (5,6,7) - Move 1.5 grids right and down to adjust for stacking.
03:50:961 (1) - Extend to 03:52:640 -
Topic Starter
Breeze

Garven wrote:

Sorry I took so long. I suck as a BAT, haha.

[General]
Tick rate 2 sounds great with this song

[Normal]
01:15:695 - Move this delayed break to 01:14:856 -
01:39:821 - Move this delayed break to 01:40:030 -
02:50:310 - Move this delayed break to 02:50:520 - :arrow: all done

[Hard]
00:29:541 (1) - Extend this to 00:31:429 - and delete the break. Maybe add whistle too. :arrow: k
01:18:842 - This kiai is badly positioned. :arrow: removed
01:36:254 (2,3) - Really bad spacing :arrow: changed
02:23:667 (4) - I'm really hesitant about these spiral sliders because of the mm effect. I'm not exactly sure what do to here. Applies to 01:13:177 (4) - too. :arrow: worked fine here...maybe just for your skin?

02:30:380 (1,2) - Wha- why are these in 1/3 snap?
02:32:058 (1,2) - These too. Sounds really bad. :/ :arrow: Hmm, changed
02:41:289 (3,4,5) - Spacing
02:42:968 (2,3,1) - ^ :arrow: /o/ fixed
02:47:163 (3,4) - Those finishes stick out bad :arrow: changed
03:47:500 (2,3) - Snapped wrong. Use 1/6 snap and add an extra circle. :arrow: changed

[Insane]
02:48:842 (1) - Extend to 02:50:520 - or add a circle there :arrow: fixed
03:52:640 - Extend break to 03:52:640 -

「saymun]
02:48:842 (1) - Extend to 02:50:520 - or add a circle there :arrow: k, fixed
03:21:801 (5,6,7) - Move 1.5 grids right and down to adjust for stacking. :arrow: done
03:50:961 (1) - Extend to 03:52:640 - :arrow: k
all fixed, thanks
Garven
Rebubbled~
Pink Agate
又一张日本女团的MAP要上架了,前来支持
popner
这首歌貌似很久以前听过
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