Subplaid - Only time makes your happiness · forum

grumd

Joined October 2010

Topic Starter

grumd 2012-04-10T15:32:46+00:00

Loctav wrote:
Whatsoever. fixed the BG

Eh, okay, now things with title and taiko BG are all fixed.
Though, I never liked other's taiko backgrounds due to fonts.
They NEVER fit the song.

spboxer3

Global Moderator

3,616 posts

Joined November 2009

spboxer3 2012-04-11T15:31:10+00:00

[general]

Settings
(For the setting/general issue.)

Inconsistency Preview Time without [Odaril's Taiko Oni] and [Insane]
remove letterbox in all diff.

[Easy]

Settings
(For the setting. like Song Setup/timing or break time~)

kiai time should allow rhythm. it's not on the beat now.

mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

00:31:083 (1,1) - Too far spacing for the center and too close rhythm in Easy diff.
01:14:848 (3,4) - (4) use same spacing to slider head and tail for other one's slider tail.

[Normal]

Settings
(For the setting. like Song Setup/timing or break time~)

kiai time should allow rhythm. it's not on the beat now.
unused green line:
00:56:501 -

Overlaps
(Some overlaps of notes/sliders in this diff don't look good. Here is a list of beats that overlap each other could space them farther apart. yep. It's just suggest and nazi. you can ignore this par)

Hitsound
(For I listened. Just some suggest for the hitsound.)

00:22:613 (1) - finish at slider head?
00:33:907 (1) - ^

mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

00:53:672 (1,2) - suggest: change to spinner. end at 00:56:142 - and add green line 5% volume at 00:55:083 -
01:17:672 (3) - suggest: let reverse at 01:18:201 - and Del 01:18:730 (4) -

[Hard]

Settings
(For the setting. like Song Setup/timing or break time~)

kiai time should allow rhythm. it's not on the beat now.
unused green line:
00:56:501 -

Hitsound
(For I listened. Just some suggest for the hitsound.)

00:56:495 (1) - finish at slider head?
01:41:672 (1) - ^
01:52:966 (1) - finish

mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

01:10:613 (1,3) - [super nazi] you can make it stack~ It's looks like a bit depart off
01:55:436 (4,1) - spacing issue. it's really too close spacing.

[Insane]

Settings
(For the setting. like Song Setup/timing or break time~)

unused green line:
00:56:470 -

Hitsound
(For I listened. Just some suggest for the hitsound.)

00:56:495 (1) - finish at slider head.

mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

00:49:260 (12,5) - stack it please!!!
01:41:672 (1) - ^

[Odaril's Taiko Oni]

mapping (some suggest)
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

00:31:083 - add spinner and finish at 00:33:554 -
00:40:083 (5,6) - kd?
01:07:436 (3) - k?
01:40:172 (3,1) - dkd?

red is unrankable issue. bule is need to discuss. Black is just suggest.
~~00:55:436 - mother fuckkkk!!~~ xD

star and good luck

grumd

1,790 posts

Joined October 2010

Topic Starter

grumd 2012-04-11T21:26:27+00:00

spinboxer

.
[Normal]

Hitsound
00:22:613 (1) - finish at slider head? okay
00:33:907 (1) - ^ okay

mapping
00:53:672 (1,2) - suggest: change to spinner. end at 00:56:142 - and add green line 5% volume at 00:55:083 - added spinner with different end
01:17:672 (3) - suggest: let reverse at 01:18:201 - and Del 01:18:730 (4) - nope

[Hard]

Hitsound
00:56:495 (1) - finish at slider head?
01:41:672 (1) - ^
01:52:966 (1) - finish
this all - yes, and added some finishes throught all diff

mapping
01:10:613 (1,3) - [super nazi] you can make it stack~ It's looks like a bit depart off
01:55:436 (4,1) - spacing issue. it's really too close spacing.
all fixed

[Insane]

Hitsound
00:56:495 (1) - finish at slider head.
finishes reworked
mapping
00:49:260 (12,5) - stack it please!!!
01:41:672 (1) - ^
all - no, sorry.

Thanks for the mod, sp3boxer! Finishes now sound much better.
Unsnapped green lines and preview time fixed in all diffs.

Shiro

Global Moderator

4,984 posts

Joined May 2009

Shiro 2012-04-11T21:47:37+00:00

spboxer3 wrote:
[Odaril's Taiko Oni]

mapping (some suggest)
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
00:31:083 - add spinner and finish at 00:33:554 - Added a short spinner, but I insist in having this blank. It transitions into the randomish part of the map.
00:40:083 (5,6) - kd? hm no the kat sounds kinda random here
01:07:436 (3) - k? okay
01:40:172 (3,1) - dkd? okay

谢谢~

osu file format v9

[General]
AudioFilename: Only time make your hapiness.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 56495
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 11319,124260
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32

[Metadata]
Title:Only time makes your happiness
Artist:Subplaid
Creator:grumd
Version:Odaril's Taiko Oni
Source:
Tags:Enya make hapiness Odaril [Ryuu]

[Difficulty]
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224,192,91260,1,0
224,192,91348,1,0
288,192,91436,5,8
288,192,91613,1,8
224,192,91789,5,0
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224,192,92054,1,0
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224,192,94172,1,0
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224,192,94613,5,0
224,192,94701,1,0
224,192,94789,1,0
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224,192,95142,5,0
224,192,95230,1,0
224,192,95319,1,0
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224,192,95672,5,0
288,192,96024,5,8
224,192,96201,5,0
224,192,96289,1,0
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224,192,97083,5,0
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224,192,100172,5,0
288,192,100260,5,8
224,192,101672,5,4
224,192,101848,1,4
224,192,102024,1,4
224,192,102201,1,4
224,192,102466,1,0
288,192,102554,5,8
288,192,102730,1,8
224,192,102819,5,0
224,192,102907,1,0
288,192,102995,5,8
224,192,103172,5,0
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224,192,103348,5,0
224,192,103436,1,0
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224,192,104054,5,0
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224,192,104407,5,0
224,192,104495,1,0
224,192,104672,1,0
224,192,104760,1,0
224,192,104936,1,0
288,192,105024,5,8
288,192,105201,1,8
224,192,105289,5,0
224,192,105377,1,0
288,192,105466,5,8
224,192,105642,5,0
288,192,105730,5,8
288,192,105819,1,8
224,192,105907,5,0
224,192,106083,1,0
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224,192,106613,1,0
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224,192,107495,1,0
224,192,107583,1,0
224,192,107672,1,0
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224,192,108201,1,0
288,192,108377,5,8
224,192,108466,5,0
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224,192,108730,1,0
288,192,108819,5,8
224,192,108907,5,0
288,192,109083,5,8
224,192,109172,5,0
224,192,109260,1,0
224,192,109436,1,0
288,192,109524,5,8
224,192,109701,5,0
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288,192,109966,1,8
288,192,110142,1,8
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grumd

1,790 posts

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Topic Starter

grumd 2012-04-11T22:07:08+00:00

@Odaril: diff updated.

@Ryuu: я подправил все зелёные линии, киаи, пару слайдеров подогнул, убрал 00:31:083 - спиннер. Если хочешь – верни спиннер и сделай там как-то иначе... Но на всякий случай убрал.

ryuu

802 posts

Joined February 2011

ryuu 2012-04-12T03:52:17+00:00

@grumd: угу. спасибо, няшик.

Regou

1,916 posts

Joined July 2010

Regou 2012-04-12T09:34:55+00:00

Request by PM :3
[Insane]
00:19:613 (7,1) - Mmm I can't see this. O.O
00:45:730 (3) - Don't place it here...
01:00:730 (1) - Quite ugly D:
01:07:789 (1) - ^
01:14:230 - Add a note?
01:29:319 (1) - Remove NC?
01:38:848 (5) - Whistle?
01:49:260 (3) - Don't overlap it on 01:48:730 (1) ?
[Hard]
01:26:142 (3) - NC?
[Normal]
HP Drain 4 and OD 4 may be too hard for a normal diff.
[Easy]
Nothing found D:

Have my star:P

grumd

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Topic Starter

grumd 2012-04-12T09:45:41+00:00

Regou

Request by PM :3
[Insane]
00:19:613 (7,1) - Mmm I can't see this. O.O it was testplayed well by several people, so it's okay i think
00:45:730 (3) - Don't place it here... okay moved
01:00:730 (1) - Quite ugly D: meh, okay, recurved a bit =\
01:07:789 (1) - ^ nope, i'll leave it how it is now
01:14:230 - Add a note? hm, okay
01:29:319 (1) - Remove NC? okay
01:38:848 (5) - Whistle? yup
01:49:260 (3) - Don't overlap it on 01:48:730 (1) ? nope, i like it
[Hard]
01:26:142 (3) - NC? yup
[Normal]
HP Drain 4 and OD 4 may be too hard for a normal diff.
AR+2, OD+1, HP+1
[Easy]
Nothing found D:
Thanks to Ryuu <3

Have my star:P

Thank you, Regou! :3

sherrie__fay

437 posts

Joined October 2010

sherrie__fay 2012-04-12T10:21:59+00:00

Red : Unrankable/error staff that you must fix them
Blue : Important things that I think you'd better fix
Black : Just suggestions

[General]

normal-hitsounds still sounds noisy in a 60% volume..
you put hitsounds in a custum rhythm so i didn't nazi mod them. just play the beatmap then pick several places which doesn't match with the music.

[Easy]

01:38:142 (2) - +whistle

[Normal]

01:43:083 (3) - remove clap at start
01:48:730 (3) - remove clap at start

[Hard]

AR+1
00:19:436 (3) - move it away from (2).hidden hard to read :O
01:26:142 (3) - remove sliderslide-whistle,or add one at 01:36:024 (1) -

[Insane]

00:44:142 (3,4,5,6) - confusing rhythm.

grumd

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Topic Starter

grumd 2012-04-12T10:29:10+00:00

sherrie__fay

[General]

normal-hitsounds still sounds noisy in a 60% volume..
you put hitsounds in a custum rhythm so i didn't nazi mod them. just play the beatmap then pick several places which doesn't match with the music.

[Easy]

01:38:142 (2) - +whistle

yup
[Normal]

01:43:083 (3) - remove clap at start
01:48:730 (3) - remove clap at start

all - no
[Hard]

AR+1 yes, and OD+1
00:19:436 (3) - move it away from (2).hidden hard to read :O okay done
01:26:142 (3) - remove sliderslide-whistle,or add one at 01:36:024 (1) - oh, it's just LOL! i didn't know before that sliders themselves can have hitsounds xD. removed

[Insane]

00:44:142 (3,4,5,6) - confusing rhythm. but it fits the music fully

Thanks, sherrie!

Рюша, я буду тебя беспокоить только, если что-то серьёзное в моде, хорошо?

Snowy Dream

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Joined September 2009

Snowy Dream 2012-04-12T11:21:14+00:00

Mod request from PM request
-------------------------------------------------
[Ryuu's Easy]
01:57:201 (4) - add note

[Normal]
00:42:377 (1) - delete clap at the beginning
02:04:260 (5) - finish

[Hard]
HP+1
00:44:142 (x) - clap?
00:44:495 (x) - ^
00:44:848 (2) - ^
00:55:083 (x) - spinner at this? and end at 00:56:142

[Insane]
01:44:495 (1) - change the colour (to grey-pink)? because the background is grey..maybe people will miss this

--------------------------------------------------
umm..wonderful mapset
Good luck

kioukiou

774 posts

Joined June 2008

kioukiou 2012-04-12T11:44:07+00:00

Timing is a bit early to me.
I suggest you +10~+12ms to all offset.
And fix unsnapping kiai time.
Mapset is good.
Star.

grumd

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Topic Starter

grumd 2012-04-12T12:16:11+00:00

Snowy Dream

Mod request from PM request
-------------------------------------------------
[Ryuu's Easy]
01:57:201 (4) - add note
I personally don't want to, lets wait what Ryuu will say

[Normal]
00:42:377 (1) - delete clap at the beginning
02:04:260 (5) - finish
All fixed

[Hard]
HP+1
um, okay
00:44:142 (x) - clap?
already there o.o
00:44:495 (x) - ^
no
00:44:848 (2) - ^
yes
00:55:083 (x) - spinner at this? and end at 00:56:142
yea, plays fine, thanks. and added the same in Insane

[Insane]
01:44:495 (1) - change the colour (to grey-pink)? because the background is grey..maybe people will miss this
changed this combo's colour to red

--------------------------------------------------
umm..wonderful mapset
Good luck

Thanks, Snowy Dream! (nice nickname, btw)

And thanks to kioukiou for mentioning about timing and unsnapped timing points.

ryuu

802 posts

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ryuu 2012-04-12T15:34:08+00:00

grumd wrote:
Рюша, я буду тебя беспокоить только, если что-то серьёзное в моде, хорошо?

хорошо, Тоша :3

Niva

Global Moderator

3,187 posts

Joined November 2009

Niva 2012-04-13T12:16:00+00:00

Mod request via PM ~

[General]

-> As the rules said, you must (at least) put a warning about the offensive lyrics on the map's thread (a storyboarded one would also be nice) - ~~also, you haven't added the original song's title (Only Time) on your description (I had a difficulty knowing the original song back then xD)~~ lol, my bad, it's there now ><
-> Also, about tags, adding the song's genre (jungle/breakcore) to the tags won't hurt (:

[Ryuu's Easy]

-> AR +1? (Easy has AR1 but Normal suddenly has AR6... I think, increasing it by one could increase readability and balance the set more)

00:11:319 (1) - In this song's opening part, whistle fits a lot on the downbeat, especially here (on the slider's start where the vocals come in) - your current whistling does fine, but adding one here is very nice~
00:19:789 (3,4) - Why sudden straight slider here? Adding a slight curve like you did on 00:14:142 (3,4) to continue your flow would be fancy~
00:22:613 (1,2,3,4) - (optional) As your next (3,1,2,3) forms a diamond pattern, I think it would be fancy to create something patterned here as well, a simple one like below should do good:
SPOILER
00:31:083 (x) - It would be much more intuitive to start the silence here (from the downbeat) rather than 1/1 before it - add a circle with quiet hitsound here?
00:39:554 (1) - (optional) imo, it will be better if you curve this to the upper-left (the midpoint in x:44 y:136, endpoint in x:0 y:96) so it will give more variation around (because 00:42:377 (1) is already curved downward)
00:50:848 (1,2,1) - Hmm, create symmetry here? Moving your previous (3) downward to allow symmmetry here won't be that hard...
SPOILER
00:53:672 (1) - Use a quieter volume on slider's end? The music isn't that strong imo...
00:55:789 - Unused inherit section (you already have one on 00:56:495 which you're using)
00:57:907 (2,3,1) - (optional) Not a really big issue actually, but it would be more tidy if you move (1) more to the bottom so these three can form a perfect triangle~
00:59:319 (3) - The clap on slider's end should be on the next (1). Also, why your previous new combo pattern (every 8/1) changes here? The new NC pattern is still acceptable and consistent, though
01:04:966 (4) - I'd rather create a 4/1 slider here followed by a circle 2/1 after (as the note you're aiming for actually lies on 01:06:377), but your current rhythm is fine to play
01:12:730 (1,2) - Put the new combo to (2)? I don't think you need a combo streak this much here
01:20:495 (3) - Instead of (4), whistle fits much more on (3) because basically soft-hitwhistle is made to increase the dramaticness on high-pitched notes - this suggestion applies to next parts like this
01:40:260 (5,1) - Dunno about this, the spacing looks like they're actually 2/1 apart orz (I suggest to make 01:40:260 (5) shorter by 1/1 if possible)
01:44:495 (4) - Again, the clap here feels out of place - it should be placed on (1) instead
02:04:260 (4) - (optional) I think soft-hitfinish fits more on the song's calm breakdown here, normal-hitfinish is somewhat too strong for me

[Normal]

00:14:142 (1,2) - (optional) In this slider fan pattern, I think it would be fancy if you curve these two downward (: - purely optional, though
00:25:436 (1,2,3,4,5) - Hmm, idk, I think it would be nice if you can put these five in a pentagon pattern, it will look less random and play better before the break imo
00:36:730 (1) - (optional) Curve this outward from (3) like below? Will look less random imo:
SPOILER
00:38:142 (2) - Remove the clap on slider's end as the breakcore drums don't continue on that point
00:45:201 (1) - I think it will be good if you copy (4)'s slider shape here and CTRL+J'ed, they will create a good antagonistic look
00:49:436 (3) - Same as 00:38:142 - the breakcore drums don't continue on slider's end
00:50:848 (1,2,3,4) - Again here, this part before the break could be tidier and less random. Considering your high AR here, you can create something like this, for example:
SPOILER
00:53:672 (1) - I think it's better to put the inherit section with 40% volume right on the spinner's end, as it will make the spinner's volume consistent throughoutly
01:00:730 (3) - (optional) Make this encircle (2)? It will flow better with (4) imo~
01:12:024 (2,3,1) - Hmm, I found it would fit the drums much more if you put the claps on (2)'s end, (3)'s start and end, and (1)'s start (and remove the claps on (2)'s start)
01:16:260 (1) - (optional) Move it a bit to the bottom right, so (1,2,3)'s start will form a straight line? Purely optional, though
01:19:083 (1) - Change the whistle on the beginning to finish, to tell players that this is a new part of the song?
01:21:907 (1) - Remove the whistle on slider's start - it can greatly emphasize the whistle you have 1/1 before
01:33:907 (3) - Here, I personally feel the whistle should be on the downbeat instead of slider's end, but your current whistle pattern is fine as well
01:36:024 (1) - It will fit the vocals much more to let this slider end on the downbeat - furthermore, if you want to keep symmetry on this slider, a simple arrangement like this will do good:
SPOILER
01:41:672 (1) - Actually I don't recommend putting a post-circle on the center on Easy/Normal diffs as the spinner's hitburst will cover them and blur the timing, but I think this is a fine example due to your high AR
01:48:377 (2,3) - (optional) Put these two more to the buttom-left, so the arc on (1,2,3) will be given a better angle?
01:54:377 (3) - (optional) Again, a purely optional stuff here - would be fancy here if you can encircle (1) from the outward with this slider xD
SPOILER
02:04:260 (5) - Same as Easy, try soft-hitfinish on the breakdown here?

[Hard]

00:12:377 (4) - I'd rather CTRL+R this and put it a bit more to the bottom-left... The jump created will be fancy~
00:16:436 (5) - Hmm, mostly you're keeping symmetry on the mapset before, but this slider is placed slightly lower compared with 00:15:554 (1)... Is it intentional?
00:18:730 (2) - (optional) Dunno why... I don't think this slider's shape fits the song's atmosphere here, perhaps try this? It will make (1)'s shape more meaningful as well:
SPOILER
00:23:495 (3) - Why suddenly go with bezier here, instead of continuing with your linear curves? Linear curve here will create a fancy shape between the hollows of (1,2,3) ~
00:36:024 (3,2) - Not stacked perfectly. Is it intentional?
00:38:848 (3,5) - It would fit the breakcore drums much more if claps are added on (3)'s end and (5) (:
00:39:554 (1) - (optional) idk if you liked the shape, but this shape looks good for me because it encircles both (5) and (1):
SPOILER
00:50:142 (3,4) - Same as 00:38:848 here, it will unleash more energy if more claps were added~
00:52:260 (1) - (optional) Why don't you curve the second half of the slider as well? More curves will build more flow here imo~
00:57:907 (1) - The clap here doesn't follow anything - any claps nearby should be on 00:57:201 (3)'s end and 00:58:260 (2)
01:07:436 (4) - Unstack? (if you don't want to unstack this, at least remove the clap to follow the breakcore drums)
01:09:201 (1) - Hmm, why the slider's first and second half isn't symmetrical? I know it plays fine, but making this symmetrical won't be that hard...
SPOILER
01:12:377 (2) - Here's another good slider to CTRL+R - try it if you wish~
01:18:201 (2,3) - Hmm, would be tidier imo if these two is placed more to the bottom-right so (1)'s end and (3)'s start will land on a same y-axis. If you do this, creating a 01:09:201 (1) - shaped slider would even compliment the flow more~
01:19:789 (2) - Add whistle on slider's end here to get a dramatic effect on this point
01:26:142 (1) - Remove whistle from the slider's body (obvious enough)
01:29:672 (2) - (optional) Unlike above, this is a good place to put a whistle on slider's body - try it if you want xD
01:33:201 (1) - (optional) I'd rather curve this upward like below, to let (2) continue its flow:
SPOILER
01:51:201 (5) - Missing clap on slider's start here? Or it's intentional? o.o
01:58:613 (1,2,3,4,5) - (optional) You can create an arc consisting of these five if you want, but it's not really necessary
02:03:554 (3) - Same as Easy about the soft-hitfinish, but this time on slider's end

[Insane]

00:11:319 (1,3) - How about adding some more whistles to both slider's start, to follow the vocals? (you did the same thing on 00:16:966 (1), so why not also here xD)
00:15:201 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - (optional) To keep the symmetry on this stream, how about creating a zig-zag stream by moving (2,3) to the left side of the stream? Looks good imo~
00:19:966 (2) - Try to make this not touching (1)? Moving the endpoint a bit down won't hurt xD
00:23:142 (3,4) - Definitely you started your whistle too early here - whistles should be on (3)'s end and (5)
00:24:201 (2) - Hmm, why don't you put this facing upward instead? Facing this downward looks forced imo (don't worry - your AR is fast enough so clustering won't happen)
00:27:907 (5,6,7) - (optional) I think diamond pattern will flow better rather than back-and-forth here:
SPOILER
00:38:848 (4,5) - As I've mentioned in the previous diffs, would be good to put the claps on (4)'s repeat and (5) as well to follow the drums
00:41:495 (4,5,1,2,3) - Curve (4) encircling the previous circle? Also, (optional) try this arrangement as well if you want:
SPOILER
00:44:142 (3) - Would be nice to curve this upward, to let this slider flow together along with your next stream
00:49:260 (12,5) - Not perfectly stacked, is it intentional? (yes, I think it's best to stack them although it doesn't follow the dist. snap, because players who have transparent hitburst will realize this easily)
01:04:436 (6,7) - (optional) I'm fond more with a jump like below, where (6) is placed downward:
SPOILER
01:13:613 (2,3,4,6,7,8) - Change into repeating slider? Stacking like this breaks your symmetry, while repeating sliders don't
01:16:083 (1) - (optional) Make this encircle (4)'s end?
01:16:613 (3) - If you do ^, it's best to copy-paste (1)'s shape here and CTRL+J + CTRL+H'ed to create a good antagonistic sliders
01:26:142 (1) - This whistle sounds out of place imo. Put on 01:27:554 (1)'s start instead?
01:32:495 (1) - Create a smoother tilted slider wave like this?
SPOILER
01:49:083 (2) - Missing clap here? xD
02:04:260 (5) - Same with your previous difficulties about the soft-hitfinish~

Great mapset, great song as well~
Good luck on getting this ranked (:

grumd

1,790 posts

Joined October 2010

Topic Starter

grumd 2012-04-13T12:39:24+00:00

Epic mod, thanks o.o
I'll check all that a bit later~

ryuu

802 posts

Joined February 2011

ryuu 2012-04-13T14:22:46+00:00

thanks, niva ~
almost all fixed.

Download: Subplaid - Only time makes your happiness (grumd) [Ryuu's Easy].osu

grumd

1,790 posts

Joined October 2010

Topic Starter

grumd 2012-04-13T15:26:12+00:00

Niva

[General]

-> As the rules said, you must (at least) put a warning about the offensive lyrics on the map's thread (a storyboarded one would also be nice) - ~~also, you haven't added the original song's title (Only Time) on your description (I had a difficulty knowing the original song back then xD)~~ lol, my bad, it's there now ><
-> Also, about tags, adding the song's genre (jungle/breakcore) to the tags won't hurt (:

[Normal]

00:14:142 (1,2) - (optional) In this slider fan pattern, I think it would be fancy if you curve these two downward (: - purely optional, though
nope
00:25:436 (1,2,3,4,5) - Hmm, idk, I think it would be nice if you can put these five in a pentagon pattern, it will look less random and play better before the break imo
okay
00:36:730 (1) - (optional) Curve this outward from (3) like below? Will look less random imo:
SPOILER
nope, it follows overall style, it's not random
00:38:142 (2) - Remove the clap on slider's end as the breakcore drums don't continue on that point
yup
00:45:201 (1) - I think it will be good if you copy (4)'s slider shape here and CTRL+J'ed, they will create a good antagonistic look
anta-what, lol? anyway, okay
00:49:436 (3) - Same as 00:38:142 - the breakcore drums don't continue on slider's end
yup
00:50:848 (1,2,3,4) - Again here, this part before the break could be tidier and less random. Considering your high AR here, you can create something like this, for example:
SPOILER
remaked in other way
00:53:672 (1) - I think it's better to put the inherit section with 40% volume right on the spinner's end, as it will make the spinner's volume consistent throughoutly
okay
01:00:730 (3) - (optional) Make this encircle (2)? It will flow better with (4) imo~
hm, no, i follow another style
01:12:024 (2,3,1) - Hmm, I found it would fit the drums much more if you put the claps on (2)'s end, (3)'s start and end, and (1)'s start (and remove the claps on (2)'s start)
yea, but I also removed clap from (2)'s end
01:16:260 (1) - (optional) Move it a bit to the bottom right, so (1,2,3)'s start will form a straight line? Purely optional, though
mm, nope
01:19:083 (1) - Change the whistle on the beginning to finish, to tell players that this is a new part of the song?
and players are like "YOU DONT SAY?" but okay
01:21:907 (1) - Remove the whistle on slider's start - it can greatly emphasize the whistle you have 1/1 before
yup
01:33:907 (3) - Here, I personally feel the whistle should be on the downbeat instead of slider's end, but your current whistle pattern is fine as well
that whistle follows little "tink" sound in the background music
01:36:024 (1) - It will fit the vocals much more to let this slider end on the downbeat - furthermore, if you want to keep symmetry on this slider, a simple arrangement like this will do good:
SPOILER
okay, done in another way, and your slider is absolutely not symmetric :3
01:41:672 (1) - Actually I don't recommend putting a post-circle on the center on Easy/Normal diffs as the spinner's hitburst will cover them and blur the timing, but I think this is a fine example due to your high AR
eh, okay, so no changes?
01:48:377 (2,3) - (optional) Put these two more to the buttom-left, so the arc on (1,2,3) will be given a better angle?
remaked in another way =\
01:54:377 (3) - (optional) Again, a purely optional stuff here - would be fancy here if you can encircle (1) from the outward with this slider xD
SPOILER
okay...
02:04:260 (5) - Same as Easy, try soft-hitfinish on the breakdown here?
yes, and i've added a smooth volume-down here

[Hard]

00:12:377 (4) - I'd rather CTRL+R this and put it a bit more to the bottom-left... The jump created will be fancy~
00:16:436 (5) - Hmm, mostly you're keeping symmetry on the mapset before, but this slider is placed slightly lower compared with 00:15:554 (1)... Is it intentional?
yea, remaked...
00:18:730 (2) - (optional) Dunno why... I don't think this slider's shape fits the song's atmosphere here, perhaps try this? It will make (1)'s shape more meaningful as well:
SPOILER
yea, good!
00:23:495 (3) - Why suddenly go with bezier here, instead of continuing with your linear curves? Linear curve here will create a fancy shape between the hollows of (1,2,3) ~
i don't remember why i did so.. fixed
00:36:024 (3,2) - Not stacked perfectly. Is it intentional?
somewhy my stacks are broken from time to time. fixed again.
00:38:848 (3,5) - It would fit the breakcore drums much more if claps are added on (3)'s end and (5) (:
okay, did so. i was setting hitsounds intuitionally
00:39:554 (1) - (optional) idk if you liked the shape, but this shape looks good for me because it encircles both (5) and (1):
SPOILER
just curved it a bit
00:50:142 (3,4) - Same as 00:38:848 here, it will unleash more energy if more claps were added~
i dont like both mine and your patterns, but okay, i'll do as you wish then
00:52:260 (1) - (optional) Why don't you curve the second half of the slider as well? More curves will build more flow here imo~
nope.. straight slider end gives higher speed :3
00:57:907 (1) - The clap here doesn't follow anything - any claps nearby should be on 00:57:201 (3)'s end and 00:58:260 (2)
added your claps, but left mine too. it follows vocals in some way
01:07:436 (4) - Unstack? (if you don't want to unstack this, at least remove the clap to follow the breakcore drums)
claps removed :3
01:09:201 (1) - Hmm, why the slider's first and second half isn't symmetrical? I know it plays fine, but making this symmetrical won't be that hard...
SPOILER
meh, okay. but your slider isn't symmetrical again
01:12:377 (2) - Here's another good slider to CTRL+R - try it if you wish~
yup
01:18:201 (2,3) - Hmm, would be tidier imo if these two is placed more to the bottom-right so (1)'s end and (3)'s start will land on a same y-axis. If you do this, creating a 01:09:201 (1) - shaped slider would even compliment the flow more~
meh, i made something other, and i don't know what xD sorry, but i caouldn't understand your meaning fully
01:19:789 (2) - Add whistle on slider's end here to get a dramatic effect on this point
kay
01:26:142 (1) - Remove whistle from the slider's body (obvious enough)
done in previous mod :3
01:29:672 (2) - (optional) Unlike above, this is a good place to put a whistle on slider's body - try it if you want xD
eh, don't know how it sounds now, but okaydone
01:33:201 (1) - (optional) I'd rather curve this upward like below, to let (2) continue its flow:
SPOILER
oh, looks good, added!
01:51:201 (5) - Missing clap on slider's start here? Or it's intentional? o.o
really missed ^^" fixed
01:58:613 (1,2,3,4,5) - (optional) You can create an arc consisting of these five if you want, but it's not really necessary
done something like that
02:03:554 (3) - Same as Easy about the soft-hitfinish, but this time on slider's end
green lines copied from normal

[Insane]

00:11:319 (1,3) - How about adding some more whistles to both slider's start, to follow the vocals? (you did the same thing on 00:16:966 (1), so why not also here xD)
no, i want to keep song start a bit calm
00:15:201 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - (optional) To keep the symmetry on this stream, how about creating a zig-zag stream by moving (2,3) to the left side of the stream? Looks good imo~
i tried that and don't like it, sorry ;_;
00:19:966 (2) - Try to make this not touching (1)? Moving the endpoint a bit down won't hurt xD
1. it's not touching it. 2. it is in straight pattern with (3)
00:23:142 (3,4) - Definitely you started your whistle too early here - whistles should be on (3)'s end and (5)
i tried it and like my way more, sorry again..
00:24:201 (2) - Hmm, why don't you put this facing upward instead? Facing this downward looks forced imo (don't worry - your AR is fast enough so clustering won't happen)
okay
00:27:907 (5,6,7) - (optional) I think diamond pattern will flow better rather than back-and-forth here:
SPOILER
remaked in other way
00:38:848 (4,5) - As I've mentioned in the previous diffs, would be good to put the claps on (4)'s repeat and (5) as well to follow the drums
ok
00:41:495 (4,5,1,2,3) - Curve (4) encircling the previous circle? Also, (optional) try this arrangement as well if you want:
SPOILER
remaked a bit
00:44:142 (3) - Would be nice to curve this upward, to let this slider flow together along with your next stream
ok
00:49:260 (12,5) - Not perfectly stacked, is it intentional? (yes, I think it's best to stack them although it doesn't follow the dist. snap, because players who have transparent hitburst will realize this easily)
ok, stacked
01:04:436 (6,7) - (optional) I'm fond more with a jump like below, where (6) is placed downward:
SPOILER
looks good!
01:13:613 (2,3,4,6,7,8) - Change into repeating slider? Stacking like this breaks your symmetry, while repeating sliders don't
okaydone
01:16:083 (1) - (optional) Make this encircle (4)'s end?
01:16:613 (3) - If you do ^, it's best to copy-paste (1)'s shape here and CTRL+J + CTRL+H'ed to create a good antagonistic sliders
that two^: yes
01:26:142 (1) - This whistle sounds out of place imo. Put on 01:27:554 (1)'s start instead?
that whistle follows the bells in the background. also added some new whistles in slow part
01:32:495 (1) - Create a smoother tilted slider wave like this?
SPOILER
that was done on purpose, but okay :c
01:49:083 (2) - Missing clap here? xD
already here o.o
02:04:260 (5) - Same with your previous difficulties about the soft-hitfinish~

Great mapset, great song as well~
Good luck on getting this ranked (:

Such a long mod... Thanks a lot, Niva. Helpful suggestions there.

theowest

osu! Alumni

6,891 posts

Joined January 2009

theowest 2012-04-13T19:46:18+00:00

[Insane]

The first thing I noticed is the terrible use of hitsounds. (it's not that terrible, I just think it could be improved a lot) So that's the first thing I'll try to fix.

The first part I want to cover is this very first part, stretching from 00:11:319 to 00:28:260

Here are your 4 hitsound options

1. All the claps you can hear in this part are whistles, there is nothing else to it.
2. Same as above but this time, the harder beats are now normal hitsounds.
3. Same as above, but the whistles are now soft claps. < Sounds the best, my recommendation is always the best.
4. Same as above, but the whistles are now soft claps. But this time we add whistles on the string sounds. (You'll hear it)

Here, have a try

1

84,240,11319,2,0,B|64:196,2,47.5
168,288,11672,1,2
252,244,11848,2,0,B|240:212|200:196|200:196|208:168,1,95
116,140,12201,1,0
36,88,12377,2,0,B|60:44|120:44,1,95,0|2
200,88,12730,5,0
220,84,12819,1,0
240,80,12907,1,0
328,116,13083,1,2
420,84,13260,1,0
428,100,13348,1,0
436,116,13436,1,0
452,212,13613,1,2
448,232,13701,1,0
444,252,13789,1,0
384,328,13966,1,0
304,280,14142,6,0,B|320:248|356:236|356:236|344:208,1,95,2|0
256,184,14495,1,0
166,212,14672,2,0,B|156:236|156:236|192:248|208:280,1,95,2|0
128,328,15024,1,0
64,256,15201,1,2
60,236,15289,1,0
56,216,15377,1,0
64,200,15466,1,0
72,184,15554,5,0
80,168,15642,1,0
88,152,15730,1,0
80,60,15907,2,0,B|132:52|164:96,1,95,2|0
172,112,16172,1,0
180,128,16260,1,0
216,216,16436,1,2
172,300,16613,2,0,B|140:280|128:252|128:252|92:264,1,95
172,300,16966,6,0,B|200:328|200:328|256:320|312:328|312:328|340:300,1,190,0|2
430,315,17495,2,0,B|388:288|339:300,1,95,0|0
292,216,17848,1,0
384,200,18024,1,0
400,192,18113,1,0
416,184,18201,1,2
432,176,18289,1,0
448,168,18377,5,0
452,72,18554,1,0
432,68,18642,1,0
412,64,18730,1,2
338,126,18907,2,0,B|290:118|256:84,1,95,0|0
173,126,19260,2,0,B|221:118|256:84,1,95,2|0
173,126,19613,1,0
338,126,19789,5,2
364,220,19966,2,0,B|392:180,2,47.5
308,296,20319,1,2
404,304,20495,2,0,B|456:308,2,47.5
308,296,20848,1,2
292,304,20936,1,0
276,312,21024,1,0
260,320,21113,1,0
244,328,21201,5,0
156,296,21377,1,0
136,300,21466,1,0
116,304,21554,1,2
64,224,21730,1,0
80,132,21907,2,0,B|120:88|120:88|112:53,1,95,0|2
208,56,22260,2,0,B|220:100|220:100|268:120,1,95,0|0
356,84,22613,5,2
348,176,22789,2,0,B|396:196,2,47.5,0|0|0
268,228,23142,2,0,B|256:276|212:300,1,95,0|0
152,224,23495,1,0
68,268,23672,1,0
76,284,23760,1,0
84,300,23848,1,2
164,352,24024,5,0
256,328,24201,2,0,B|256:376,2,47.5
348,352,24554,1,0
436,316,24730,2,0,B|420:264|364:256,1,95,0|2
440,196,25083,2,0,B|400:172|344:172,1,95,0|0
400,92,25436,5,0
304,88,25613,1,0
288,80,25701,1,0
272,72,25789,1,2
196,128,25966,1,0
120,184,26142,1,0
104,176,26230,1,0
88,168,26318,1,2
56,80,26495,1,0
76,76,26583,1,0
96,72,26672,1,0
116,68,26760,1,0
136,64,26848,5,2
224,96,27024,1,0
248,188,27201,2,0,B|305:218|305:218|321:246,1,95,0|2
372,164,27554,2,0,B|386:190|386:190|444:220,1,95,0|0
424,312,27907,1,2
336,344,28083,1,0
424,312,28260,1,0

Copy this after [HitObjects] (Remember, this only goes from start to 00:28:260)

Listen to it and see what you think.
If you don't like it, try the next one.

2

25,352.941176470588,4,2,0,60,1,0
11319,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
11407,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
12730,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
12819,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
13260,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
13348,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
13789,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
14142,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
15554,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
15642,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
16083,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
16172,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
16966,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
17054,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
18377,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
18554,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
18907,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
18995,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
19436,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
19789,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
21201,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
21377,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
21730,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
21907,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
24024,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
24289,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
24554,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
24730,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
25083,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
25172,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
25260,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
25613,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
25966,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
26142,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
26495,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
26583,-100,4,2,0,60,0,0
28083,-100,4,2,0,50,0,0
28260,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0

or you could use

25,352.941176470588,4,2,0,40,1,0
11319,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
11407,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
12730,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
12819,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
13260,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
13348,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
13789,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
14142,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
15554,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
15642,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
16083,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
16172,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
16966,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
17054,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
18377,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
18554,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
18907,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
18995,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
19436,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
19789,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
21201,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
21377,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
21730,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
21907,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
24024,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
24289,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
24554,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
24730,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
25083,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
25172,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
25260,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
25613,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
25966,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
26142,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
26495,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
26583,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
28083,-100,4,2,0,30,0,0
28260,-100,4,2,0,20,0,0

Copy this after [TimingPoints] (Remember, this only goes from start to 00:28:260)

Listen to it and see what you think.
If you don't like it, try the next one.

3

25,352.941176470588,4,2,0,40,1,0
11319,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
11407,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
12730,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
12819,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
13260,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
13348,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
13789,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
14142,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
15554,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
15642,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
16083,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
16172,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
16966,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
17054,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
18377,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
18554,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
18907,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
18995,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
19436,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
19789,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
21201,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
21377,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
21730,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
21907,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
24024,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
24289,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
24554,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
24730,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
25083,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
25172,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
25260,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
25613,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
25966,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
26142,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
26495,-100,4,1,0,40,0,0
26583,-100,4,2,0,40,0,0
28083,-100,4,2,0,30,0,0
28260,-100,4,2,0,20,0,0

Copy this after [TimingPoints]

84,240,11319,2,0,B|64:196,2,47.5
168,288,11672,1,8
252,244,11848,2,0,B|240:212|200:196|200:196|208:168,1,95,0|2
116,140,12201,1,0
36,88,12377,2,0,B|60:44|120:44,1,95,0|8
200,88,12730,5,0
220,84,12819,1,0
240,80,12907,1,0
328,116,13083,1,8
420,84,13260,1,0
428,100,13348,1,0
436,116,13436,1,0
452,212,13613,1,8
448,232,13701,1,0
444,252,13789,1,0
384,328,13966,1,0
304,280,14142,6,0,B|320:248|356:236|356:236|344:208,1,95,10|0
256,184,14495,1,0
166,212,14672,2,0,B|156:236|156:236|192:248|208:280,1,95,8|2
128,328,15024,1,0
64,256,15201,1,8
60,236,15289,1,0
56,216,15377,1,0
64,200,15466,1,0
72,184,15554,5,0
80,168,15642,1,0
88,152,15730,1,0
80,60,15907,2,0,B|132:52|164:96,1,95,8|0
172,112,16172,1,0
180,128,16260,1,0
216,216,16436,1,8
172,300,16613,2,0,B|140:280|128:252|128:252|92:264,1,95
172,300,16966,6,0,B|200:328|200:328|256:320|312:328|312:328|340:300,1,190,0|8
430,315,17495,2,0,B|388:288|339:300,1,95,0|2
292,216,17848,1,0
384,200,18024,1,0
400,192,18113,1,0
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Listen to it and see what you think.
If you don't like it, try the next one.

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Listen to it and see what you think.

Now, I don't want to waste my or your time, so I'm going to wait for you to see which one of these hitsound templates you want to use, on all your diffs.

In the meantime, I'll mod the rest of this difficulty, and later add the hitsound template for everything when you have picked one of these. I hope you do. ;v;
The hitsound template will be picked by you, but instead of you wasting your precious time, I could make the hitsounds for you. Once you read and fix'd everything below.

Remember, you must pick one of these hitsound templates before you look at the rest

~~and you must follow along and do these things, or you'll end up looking at the wrong combos. If you ignore one of my mods, you'll have to look at the time instead of which combo is highlighted.~~ But to solve this, I'll just write down the time instead of you being confused by the highlighted combos.

Before you read the following, you must know that there are a lot other places you can place your notes, instead of placing them on

00:11:319 - This is too much. You can't even hear 00:11:407 so it would be better with either a slider stretching from 00:11:319 to 00:11:495.
00:11:848 - Move the slider to make room for a note here, the note at 00:12:201 will therefore be swallowed by the slider.
00:12:377 - Sounds and looks better with just two beats instead of a slider.
00:12:819 - Remove. You can't hear anything behind it and it would sound and look MUCH better if you added a slider from 00:12:730 to 00:12:907.
00:13:348 - Remove this beat, you can't hear anything behind it.
00:13:436 - It would be very nice to see a slider here, stretching to 00:13:613
00:13:701 - Remove this beat, you can't hear anything behind it.
00:14:142 - I wouldn't recommend a slider, but you can keep it as long as it makes you happy.
00:14:407 - Here would be a good place to place a note
00:14:495 - ^
00:14:936 - ^
00:15:289 - Remove this note
00:15:642 - ^
00:15:554 - It would be cool with a slider here, stretching to 00:15:730
00:17:942 - Add note
00:18:295 - Remove note, maybe make 00:18:207 into a slider and stretch it to 00:18:383
00:18:648 - Remove this note, maybe make a slider from 00:18:736 to 00:18:913, do this and create sound symmetry between 00:19:266, causing much awesomeness.
00:19:089 - one note here.
00:20:236 - add a note
00:20:766 - ^
00:20:942 - remove note
00:21:472 - ^
00:21:207 - I'd really like if you put a slider here, to 00:21:383
00:21:560 - would be nice if this was a slider, stretching its wings to 00:21:736 and 00:21:913 - remove this slider and put a note there, but this is very optional. do wat u like maaan.
00:22:354 - add note
00:22:354 - ^ (already is one here probably)
00:22:795 - doesn't fit to the music, try a simple 1/2 slider
00:24:207 - ^
00:25:707 - remove, would be cool with a slider here 00:25:795
00:26:236 - remove, would be cool with a slider here 00:26:325
00:26:766 - remove note
00:27:207 - remove slider
00:27:119 - add note
00:27:207 - ^
00:27:295 - ^
00:27:383 - ^ or make a back and forth 1/4 slider out of these.
00:27:560 - remove slider
00:27:560 - add note
00:27:648 - ^
00:27:736 - ^
00:27:825 - ^
00:27:913 - ^ or make a back and forth 1/4 slider out of these.

Now here's the thing, maybe you ignore most of these mods and wanted to keep the overmap/undermap. That's fine. But if you do accept these changes, let me know in a reply to this so I can show you the rest. I don't want to waste your time denying everything. D:

So please, let me know what you want, if you want the hitsounds or not, if you accept the mod or not, etc.
Sorry for the time it has taken me to give you this. I've been busy with a lot of other things, and I don't have much of a patience for modding.

grumd

1,790 posts

Joined October 2010

Topic Starter

grumd 2012-04-13T21:25:42+00:00

Please no more mods for a while! We have to finish with hitsounds for now.

theowest, you know, I told you via irc, you're awesome!

theowest

osu! Alumni

6,891 posts

Joined January 2009

theowest 2012-04-14T22:45:05+00:00

Jesus christ.. This took me fucking ages. (3 hours for one diff)

Done with the timing sections. These will be the same for all difficulties (except taiko)

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I have to go to sleep now, but I'll continue making hitsounds for the remaining diffs tomorrow.

Edit:

Hard done.

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time for normal.
edit: and easy.

somebody please deny the kudos on this post.

grumd

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grumd 2012-04-15T16:52:39+00:00

Noooo, do not deny that kudosu!!

theowest

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theowest 2012-04-15T16:53:15+00:00

grumd wrote:
Noooo, do not deny that kudosu!!

I've already received a kudosu.

grumd

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grumd 2012-04-15T16:56:03+00:00

theowest wrote:
grumd wrote:
Noooo, do not deny that kudosu!!
I've already received a kudosu.

You help me so much that you need it MOAR!!!1

ryuu

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ryuu 2012-04-15T16:56:53+00:00

theowest wrote:
I've already received a kudosu.

you deserve one thousand kudosu.

theowest

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theowest 2012-04-15T16:59:03+00:00

lol whatever.

like I ever needed kudosu.

grumd

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grumd 2012-04-15T16:59:48+00:00

[Ryuu] wrote:
theowest wrote:
I've already received a kudosu.
you deserve one thousand kudosu.

Totally yes.
And, lol, can somebody give me two kd stars more? I need +8 for MAT modding :3

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theowest 2012-04-15T17:25:02+00:00

there. I gave you 2. happy now?

grumd

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grumd 2012-04-15T17:30:19+00:00

Yes! Now I have them enough for MATs

Edit: Hard hitsounds uploaded.

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theowest 2012-04-15T17:47:43+00:00

dude. don't kudos me like that! D:
it's just hitsounds. no big deal

ryuu

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ryuu 2012-04-15T17:52:48+00:00

theowest wrote:
dude. don't kudos me like that! D:
it's just hitsounds. no big deal

hitsounds to me half of the map.

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theowest 2012-04-15T17:53:27+00:00

[Ryuu] wrote:
theowest wrote:
dude. don't kudos me like that! D:
it's just hitsounds. no big deal
hitsounds to me half of the map.

hitsounds for me is 75% of the map. lol

ryuu

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ryuu 2012-04-15T17:56:29+00:00

theowest wrote:
it's just hitsounds. no big deal

theowest wrote:
hitsounds for me is 75% of the map. lol

really lol.

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theowest 2012-04-15T17:57:38+00:00

[Ryuu] wrote:
theowest wrote:
it's just hitsounds. no big deal
theowest wrote:
hitsounds for me is 75% of the map. lol
really lol.

which is why i dont have time to map that much ._.

grumd

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grumd 2012-04-15T18:01:35+00:00

Okay. Maybe I should delete this map and let you upload it as it's creator, theo?

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theowest 2012-04-15T18:02:15+00:00

grumd wrote:
Okay. Maybe I should delete this map and let you upload it as it's creator, theo?

NO. stop it. don't be silly. sometimes a mod can take hours too. this is ridiculous.

grumd

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grumd 2012-04-15T18:06:02+00:00

:<
Well... At least I've found the song.

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theowest 2012-04-15T18:17:15+00:00

here's normal

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I hope you don't use the exact same timing sections as all the other ones. I sometimes change timing sections in diffs. so they are a bit different.

grumd

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grumd 2012-04-15T19:13:41+00:00

Y U DENY

And yes, thanks again. All fixed and uploaded.

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ziin 2012-04-17T00:52:30+00:00

lol add theowest to tags (joking)
Generally a person gets one kudosu for a helpful mod. A mod can span several posts, and several days. A recheck usually doesn't deserve a second kudosu unless there's a few mods in between.

[easy]
01:01:442 (1) - New combos go best on long white ticks. Fiddle them around so that this NC is on the next note (which may make the previous combo too long, or others too short). If you listen, the new phrase almost always begin on the long white tick (the downbeat).
01:12:736 (1) - and ^ repeats. If you change one, check the whole map for these. And check all the diffs for it too.
01:19:089 - you need to remap this section so that it's not at 0.5x. This is too slow, and the sliderticks are bugging out. If this is rankable, it shouldn't be. The map's already painfully slow as it is.

[normal]
01:19:089 - I'm going to go ahead and say this now: using 0.5x used to be the "norm" and a lot of new mappers use it, since that was the default in the editor for a while. However, the problem is that 0.5x literally cuts everything in half, so the spacing is also cut in half, making it harder to read, or at least tell the difference between the two. 1.0x 1/2 notes vs 0.5x 1/1 notes use the same spacing, making it very confusing, and in osu, confusing=bad. I don't like maps that are confusing or make me not know when the next note is. There's a difference between confusing and difficulty, since there are other, better ways to make a map more difficult (and thus fun).
So I ask that in the future you use 0.75x instead. Now the notes look like 3/4 notes spacing, which would be very strange, so it's easier to tell that this section is a slowdown section. Likewise, you shouldn't use 2x, but 1.5x instead. Same with using jumps. Try to avoid perfect 2x and 0.5x (anti)jumps.
01:30:383 - I just like bass parts so much that it would be good to map the syncopation in repeated sliders here.

[odaril]
I thought the quiet part at 01:19:089 - was a bit too heavy
01:36:030 (1) - I would never put a clap on the low note here either, and I'd make sure to map it every time (you ignored it earlier).

[hard]
too many claps. Remove some. I didn't think insane was that bad. Copy the claps from insane (use AIBat to export hitsounds to bookmarks).

[insane]
00:48:207 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - okay, so compressed streams are awesome, but spacing is very important here. It's very easy to tell when a note isn't properly spaced when close together. 0.45x and 0.53x on 1/4 notes has a much more significant difference than say, 1.15x and 1.23x on 1/1 notes. The closer 2 circles are to eachother, the more important it is to make sure they do not have visibily different spacings. The easiest way to fix this is to turn off grid snap for these compressed streams (the grid isn't accurate enough to provide the proper spacing). Generally if the notes are closer than the radius of the circle, you need to make sure that the spacing is as close to identical as possible. Further out than that, spacing matters much less, and spacing has less effect on readability.
00:44:148 (3,4) - this is especially apparent on slider ends and notes immediately after them. Double check all these notes in the map and try to fix the spacing.
01:19:089 (1) - I really didn't like the way you mapped this in any difficulty, since I feel like it still has a nice dnb rhythm that you should really map. Even if it's only the bass drum and the snare hit, it's still a fun rhythm to play, and you've completely ignored it:
http://puu.sh/pZyC
something like this maps the drums much better, and partially maps the lyrics (which is what I know you wanted to do). Please, abuse the 3/2 repeating slider here. It was meant for this map. I also recommend you go back to the other diffs and try to map this here too.
01:46:619 (3) - yes it's probably fine, but for all intents and purposes, the repeat arrow's position doesn't actually matter, so you should rotate it so that the repeat arrow is never even partially covered by another slider (end) or circle. I know you wanted to make some fancy 3 overlapping slider ends thing, but this is lost when actually playing. All you see is the fact that the hitburst and slider cover up part of the repeat.

So yeah, just watch your spacing on the close stuff. Awesome map again. Don't hesitate to post in my queue with more dnb, just remember to tag it dnb in my queue, because that's what I search for. I would also tag this as dnb in the actual map, but you don't really have to since breakcore isn't strictly speaking dnb, even if it's influenced by it. In any case more tags is a good thing. More ways to find that map.

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