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mouse dpi used by top level players?

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Damonisch_old
Razer Naga 5600 DPI, 3 to 3.5 OSU sensetivity with Mouse Precision on, Max windows mouse settings. (Takes quite a bit to get used to for jumps and the like, but spinning is incredibly fast and so is clicking)
kriers
We are discussing dpi used by top level players. Don't randomly post settings, please.
gat1toneku

kriers wrote:

We are discussing dpi used by top level players. Don't randomly post settings, please.
it's ok if the player who posted it is pro
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Moment2Forever
I just wanted to give a big thank you to everyone that posted in this thread, as its been my guide for the passed few months in improving, I have practiced everyday and tried many different mouse settings, I started out at 4x sensitivity with precision on and 2400dpi and worked my way all the way down. I also didn't use the keyboard for hits.

My current settings are precision off in osu and windows, 6/11 sensitivity in windows, 1x in osu, and 800 mouse dpi
When I made this post I could barely play in normal mode, and now I can full combo hard songs and play insane songs.
I feel like this is where the real skill begins, and I don't have to worry about my equipment and keyboard holding me back.

I also think that if I had to give advice to anyone that's just starting out is make sure u have 6/11 sensitivity in windows, that is something I would have never figured out on my own, and also that precision mode has to be turned off if your going for a low dpi style

But thanks again everyone!
oh loving you
hey, what about mouse acceleration? i heard that turning it off would be good...
YodaSnipe
yep
Frizz

oh loving you wrote:

hey, what about mouse acceleration? i heard that turning it off would be good...
Mouse acceleration is bad. It makes your cursor tripping balls on quick movements. So yes, turning it off is good.
-Athena-

Frizz925 wrote:

oh loving you wrote:

hey, what about mouse acceleration? i heard that turning it off would be good...
Mouse acceleration is bad. It makes your cursor tripping balls on quick movements. So yes, turning it off is good.
^ this
basically low dpi (below 2000) is better
fine something that suits you
ziin
2000 dpi is painfully slow...

I use 4320 dpi.
emonite
Amazing...some people's mouse dpi is painfully slow (400 dpi) while some are ridiculously fast (4320 dpi,seriously?).400 dpi for me is seriously too slow and 3500 dpi is good for me when spinning ONLY.I'm not a pro so I won't post my mouse's dpi.
Frizz
800 dpi too mainstream
Xylem Beer
Well I'm not a top level player, but I use 3500DPI.
Pizzicato
doomsday uses 800dpi.
kriers
I feel I really don't care about dpi used by top players. :|

What's actually interesting to me, is the actual sensitivity that players use. For instance, how much do they have to move their mouse to reach each corner of the playfield?
Onozu
800dpi, 0.8x Sensitivity. Am i doing too slow?
kriers

0nozuka Komachi wrote:

800dpi, 0.8x Sensitivity. Am i doing too slow?
Your settings would make my cursor fly into the corners of my screen
dudusek
400dpi ftw!
Mesita

kriers wrote:

0nozuka Komachi wrote:

800dpi, 0.8x Sensitivity. Am i doing too slow?
Your settings would make my cursor fly into the corners of my screen
depends on windows settings too.
emonite

dudusek wrote:

400dpi ftw!
So slow?How you all play...I really want to see it... :?
Jalatiphra
3,5k dpi * 1.0 osu * 1.0 windows * 1680/1050 @ full screen
Anzo

kriers wrote:

0nozuka Komachi wrote:

800dpi, 0.8x Sensitivity. Am i doing too slow?
Your settings would make my cursor fly into the corners of my screen
^same here, except if you're going to compensate with a higher resolution.
melenkurio
I don't really get why so many people are DPI whores. Really any top mouse player could just full combo most maps with a cheap 5$ mouse if he gets his sensitivity to the same level as before and some practise. Even some counterstrike progamers (where accuracy is even more important) Just use a mouse with under 600 dpi and it works perfectly fine. Equipment will never change how good you really are at the game.
-Athena-
As a mouse only player, I normally use a $5 mouse at home (yes really $5)
But after trying the game with a gaming mouse at my friend's house I must say what mattered wasn't the dpi, it was the er.. *clickability*
I no longer had to compress my mouse buttons with ten thousand tonnes of pressure to register a click and that really made a difference
Kanye West

oh loving you wrote:

hey, what about mouse acceleration? i heard that turning it off would be good...
It depends. I've always played with it on and when I turned it off, I started doing way worse
-Athena-
Give it some time. I took 2 days to get used to it, things went uphill from there
Ephemeral
back when i actually cared about my rank, i used to have my mouse set to 600 dpi and i would adjust my ingame sensitivity by +/- 0.2 depending on the type of map i was playing.

the mouse used doesn't really matter as long as you are comfortable clicking with it often enough, even if you use the keyboard. i found a great way of increasing your accuracy was to play with just the mouse since clicking often shifted the mouse slightly, causing you to aim dead-center instead of at the outer edge. once you get used to that and switch back to the keyboard, your accuracy goes through the roof.

well, at least it did for me.
kriers

Ephemeral wrote:

back when i actually cared about my rank, i used to have my mouse set to 600 dpi and i would adjust my ingame sensitivity by +/- 0.2 depending on the type of map i was playing.

the mouse used doesn't really matter as long as you are comfortable clicking with it often enough, even if you use the keyboard. i found a great way of increasing your accuracy was to play with just the mouse since clicking often shifted the mouse slightly, causing you to aim dead-center instead of at the outer edge. once you get used to that and switch back to the keyboard, your accuracy goes through the roof.

well, at least it did for me.
You haven't played much for eons! You should totally try out this game again. It is a good game after all ;p
ziin

kriers wrote:

I feel I really don't care about dpi used by top players. :|

What's actually interesting to me, is the actual sensitivity that players use. For instance, how much do they have to move their mouse to reach each corner of the playfield?
I move less than 1 cm. That being said, I find that changing my dpi down from 4k+ to less than 1000 has a minimal effect. I'm without a doubt better with 4k dpi, but there is likely merit in using a lower dpi. For example, I can't use mouse buttons on 4k dpi because it's impossible to do so without moving the mouse off the cursor. However, spinning is much harder on a low dpi.

emonite wrote:

dudusek wrote:

400dpi ftw!
So slow?How you all play...I really want to see it... :?


IMO this is far too low. If you can't do a 720 moving from one end of the mousepad to the other, it's not usable. This sort of gameplay also makes the MX518 a shitty mouse since it has pointer acceleration and line snapping. I'm unsure if it happens at 400 dpi, but it definitely does at lower values. That's what makes the intellimouse so good for these sorts of players.
kriers

ziin wrote:

I move less than 1 cm. That being said, I find that changing my dpi down from 4k+ to less than 1000 has a minimal effect. I'm without a doubt better with 4k dpi, but there is likely merit in using a lower dpi. For example, I can't use mouse buttons on 4k dpi because it's impossible to do so without moving the mouse off the cursor. However, spinning is much harder on a low dpi.
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I move more than 7 cm, and yeah, I do this because I'm a clicker. Even so, I find spinning with low dpi so much easier thanks to
the extra control I gain.
ziin
on high sensitivity, no matter where the circle's center is, you will always be hitting the 4 corners of the screen, which means you can spin as fast as you want, and even move the center of the circle.

It probably is easier to spin in general on a low dpi, but it's easier to spin fast on a high dpi. Recovering after the spin is a different story.
Mesita

ziin wrote:

on high sensitivity, no matter where the circle's center is, you will always be hitting the 4 corners of the screen, which means you can spin as fast as you want, and even move the center of the circle.

It probably is easier to spin in general on a low dpi, but it's easier to spin fast on a high dpi. Recovering after the spin is a different story.
you can always hit the 4 corners on low sensitivity too... u just have to know "how to play it", low sensitivity is all about wrist. Usually people tend to move the mouse with their arm, so they don't get the full potential of it.
kriers

Mesita wrote:

ziin wrote:

on high sensitivity, no matter where the circle's center is, you will always be hitting the 4 corners of the screen, which means you can spin as fast as you want, and even move the center of the circle.

It probably is easier to spin in general on a low dpi, but it's easier to spin fast on a high dpi. Recovering after the spin is a different story.
you can always hit the 4 corners on low sensitivity too... u just have to know "how to play it", low sensitivity is all about wrist. Usually people tend to move the mouse with their arm, so they don't get the full potential of it.
You mean, usually people tend to move the mouse with their fingers, as in a clawed grip?

Higher sensitivity is great for claw grip since the mouse can easily reach every corner of the screen, which is what I think ziin is referring to.
Lower sensitivity allows for, or actually requires, arm movement to fill in the spots that can't be reached with a clawed grip. You can also use a palm grip and mainly use arm/wrist for movement.

In my case I use 100% arm for up and down and about 50% wrist for left and right.
Mesita
My live experience (LAN tournaments) taught me that most players used palm grip and arm movement... but w/e. I use low sensitivity in FPS games + claw grip and i use my wrist to play :/ no problems so far.
kriers
with 9/11 windows settings, you can easily use a clawed grip, even if you use 400/450 dpi ;p
I actually move 3 times more than you lol
D33d
I'm nowhere near a top player, but my playing improved drastically after switching to 300-400DPI. It just gives me more control, regardless of which grip I'm using. 800+ just made it really awkward to keep the cursor moving steadily, especially with streams.
Mesita

kriers wrote:

with 9/11 windows settings, you can easily use a clawed grip, even if you use 400/450 dpi ;p
I actually move 3 times more than you lol
that was osu... i ment FPS gaming. I use 6/11 and very slow sens
ziin

Mesita wrote:

you can always hit the 4 corners on low sensitivity too... u just have to know "how to play it", low sensitivity is all about wrist. Usually people tend to move the mouse with their arm, so they don't get the full potential of it.
Low sensitivity is, what, 400 dpi?

on osu, standard resolution is probably 1024x768 right? So to get all 4 corners you need to move at least 2 inches. You're telling me there are people who spin in osu using a 3 inch diameter circle? Pardon me if I am in disbelief. Such a waste of energy.

By the way, I use a palm grip, though I suppose it's similar to a claw grip. I never move my arm, except when spinning, where it's necessary to get that vertical distance. My wrist stays on the mousepad and never moves.
Mesita
i used to play 1680x1050 fullscreen, 450 dpi, 6/11 windows, no mouse precision. And yeah it is possible to hit all 4 corners that way.
kriers

ziin wrote:

on osu, standard resolution is probably 1024x768 right? So to get all 4 corners you need to move at least 2 inches. You're telling me there are people who spin in osu using a 3 inch diameter circle? Pardon me if I am in disbelief. Such a waste of energy.
I just don't get why you're always putting so much focus on energy usage. You talked about not bottoming out keyboard keys for the exact same reason.
If this game is all about being energy efficient, then I really suck at it. At the same time, I'm probably several times faster than high sensitivity mouse users, obviously because I've trained my hand to tolerate my low sensitivity while giving me much better aim.

Players should do their best to challenge their own limits and increase their amount of energy.

ziin wrote:

By the way, I use a palm grip, though I suppose it's similar to a claw grip. I never move my arm, except when spinning, where it's necessary to get that vertical distance. My wrist stays on the mousepad and never moves.
This sort of play style is commonly used, but it's more like a solution for people who can't deal with lower sensitivity. You could ask aevv about this. He'd complain that he couldn't go lower and was stuck at his medium sensitivity.
Jaay-
1000 dpi, 4/11 windows, 1.1x osu, no mouse accel. The best for me :)
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