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Anzo
762 posts
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Topic Starter
Anzo
To all MOUSE ONLY players, I have some questions to ask...

I made this thread for the reason that the question related here in this forum are all scattered out, and mostly for all gameplay styles,
and I just want to know about how others play using only the mouse.



OLD QUESTIONS FOR OLDER POSTS, DO NOT ANSWER THESE

For posts until p/4035564

So the questions are:
1. What is your Windows mouse pointer speed?
2. What is your osu!'s mouse sensitivity?
3. Did you enable the "Precision Mode" in osu! ? Precision mode in osu! is always enabled, but this is different in Windows. So ignore this question.
4. What is the DPI of your mouse? (or what DPI you are using when playing?)
5. What kind of mouse you are using?
6. What is your osu!'s screen resolution?
7. Do you prefer fullscreen or windowed mode?
8. How do you hold/grip your mouse?
9. What is your mousepad? (or where do you place your mouse?)
10. What are your problems/issues while you're playing? (e.g can't spin well, that jumps, streams...)

Questions: *ANSWER THIS ONE*
1. Windows' mouse pointer speed: (xx/11)
2. osu!'s mouse sensitivity: (0.4x - 6x)
3. RAW input enabled? (Yes/No)

4. mouse DPI or DPI used during gameplay: (xxxx DPI)
5. type/brand/kind of mouse:
6. What is your mousepad? (or where do you place your mouse?)
7. How do you hold/grip your mouse?

8. osu!'s screen resolution:
9. borderless fullscreen, fullscreen or windowed mode?

10. problems/issues while you're playing: (e.g can't spin well, that jumps, streams...)


OLD ANSWER OF MINE
1. Wndows: 6/11
2. osu! mouse sensitivity: 1.0x
3. osu! precision: enabled
4. DPI: 1000DPI but I think this is much lower
5. Mouse: Rigid Mouse Elephant (+modifications)
6. osu! resolution: 800x600 or 1024x600
7. Fullscreen mode
8. Grip: Palm Grip
9. Surface: Cloth Mousepad
10. Issues: Fast jumps and annoying patterns

EDIT 1: Quote this for faster editing.

EDIT 2: Updated some questions for newer osu!
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-Athena-
1,414 posts
Joined June 2011
-Athena-
Hmm. Windows Pointer speed and osu sensitivity at the default.
I did enable mouse precision in osu! But not in windows settings(there's a big difference).
I don't know my mouse dpi sorry it's crap and didn't even come with a box
Mousepad also cloth crap.
My resolution is 1366x720, I play full screen.
I use the claw grip method.

The main problem any mouse only user will face is streaming.

Edit: finally figured how to separate my text.. I'm an idiot
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Lybydose
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2009
Lybydose
default
default
precision mode is a rounding error bug fix that should always be enabled. it's completely removed as an option on the test build and always on. oh yeah and it doesn't even do anything if sensitivity is set to default, because there are no rounding errors when multiplying by 1.
3500
deathadder 3500
1024x768
windowed
however I feel like
trading card game playmat
moving the cursor straight up, especially if I have to move it slower than "instantly" (on a slider for example)
-Athena-
1,414 posts
Joined June 2011
-Athena-
Wow lybydose :3. I was about to make a thread like this, my main question is which mouse and mousepad are best for osu! Lol
Anzo
762 posts
Joined December 2010
Topic Starter
Anzo

Lybydose wrote:

default
oh yeah and it doesn't even do anything if sensitivity is set to default, because there are no rounding errors when multiplying by 1.
^I didn't know that the precision mode doesn't have an effect when the sensitivity is at default...
-Athena-
1,414 posts
Joined June 2011
-Athena-

anzo-nii wrote:

Lybydose wrote:

default
oh yeah and it doesn't even do anything if sensitivity is set to default, because there are no rounding errors when multiplying by 1.
^I didn't know that the precision mode doesn't have an effect when the sensitivity is at default...
Have you turned off enhance pointer precision in your mouse settings? Not ingame but in control panel itself, trust me it helps
Anzo
762 posts
Joined December 2010
Topic Starter
Anzo

-A t H e N a- wrote:

Have you turned off enhance pointer precision in your mouse settings? Not ingame but in control panel itself, trust me it helps
In windows settings, it's turned off..

That "Enhance Pointer Precision" in Windows, I didn't put this in the questions list because I think its common for mouse only players (and for others too) to turn off precision in Windows..
-Athena-
1,414 posts
Joined June 2011
-Athena-
A lot of mouse or mouse + keyboard users I met in game had it turned on, so I was just making sure :D
kriers
1,963 posts
Joined April 2010
kriers

anzo-nii wrote:

So the questions are:
1. What is your Windows mouse pointer speed? 6/11
2. What is your osu!'s mouse sensitivity? 1.0x
3. Did you enable the "Precision Mode" in osu! ? yes
4. What is the DPI of your mouse? (or what DPI you are using when playing?) 450
5. What kind of mouse you are using? Mionix Naos 5000
6. What is your osu!'s screen resolution? 1366x768
7. Do you prefer fullscreen or windowed mode? windowed
8. How do you hold/grip your mouse? palmed grip (mostly arm for movement)
9. What is your mousepad? (or where do you place your mouse?) Razer Goliathus Alpha Control Edition
10. What are your problems/issues while you're playing? (e.g can't spin well, that jumps, streams...) no real issue I should be complaining about.
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those
1. What is your Windows mouse pointer speed? 7/11
2. What is your osu!'s mouse sensitivity? 1.0x
3. Did you enable the "Precision Mode" in osu! ? No
4. What is the DPI of your mouse? (or what DPI you are using when playing?) 400 dpi
5. What kind of mouse you are using? Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1a
6. What is your osu!'s screen resolution? 1024x600
7. Do you prefer fullscreen or windowed mode? Windowed
8. How do you hold/grip your mouse? Palm grip
9. What is your mousepad? (or where do you place your mouse?) Game mat, cloth on rubber
10. What are your problems/issues while you're playing? (e.g can't spin well, that jumps, streams...) see kriers
Kuria
1,390 posts
Joined May 2011
Kuria
1. What is your Windows mouse pointer speed? 6/11
2. What is your osu!'s mouse sensitivity? 1.1x
3. Did you enable the "Precision Mode" in osu! ? yes
4. What is the DPI of your mouse? (or what DPI you are using when playing?) 800 dpi
5. What kind of mouse you are using? A4TECH X7 XL-747H
6. What is your osu!'s screen resolution? 1440x900
7. Do you prefer fullscreen or windowed mode? Fullscreen
8. How do you hold/grip your mouse? Palm grip
9. What is your mousepad? (or where do you place your mouse?) Razer Goliathus Alpha Speed Edition
10. What are your problems/issues while you're playing? (e.g can't spin well, that jumps, streams...) Long streams
Hakurouken
80 posts
Joined September 2010
Hakurouken
1. What is your Windows mouse pointer speed? 5/11
2. What is your osu!'s mouse sensitivity? 1.0
3. Did you enable the "Precision Mode" in osu! ? yes
4. What is the DPI of your mouse? (or what DPI you are using when playing?) 1200
5. What kind of mouse you are using? Logitech Wireless Desktop MK 300
6. What is your osu!'s screen resolution? 1366x768
7. Do you prefer fullscreen or windowed mode? fullscreen
8. How do you hold/grip your mouse? uhm never thought about it, something between palm and claw?
9. What is your mousepad? (or where do you place your mouse?) wood desktop
10. What are your problems/issues while you're playing? (e.g can't spin well, that jumps, streams...) spinners (max i get is 300 and cant keep it), combolose when starting sliders frequently, and long streams. The spinner is more a problem of myself than the mouse.

A question: Is wireless worse, in what aspect? i have only played osu with wireless so i cant compare, recommendations to improve are welcomed :)
-Athena-
1,414 posts
Joined June 2011
-Athena-
Hmm wireless mouse has delays sometimes, try wired you may improve
Dafydd
68 posts
Joined November 2011
Dafydd
1. What is your Windows mouse pointer speed? prolly 5/11 to 6/11
2. What is your osu!'s mouse sensitivity? 1.2x
3. Did you enable the "Precision Mode" in osu! ? nope
4. What is the DPI of your mouse? (or what DPI you are using when playing?) idk (will check on it later)
5. What kind of mouse you are using? logitech (will check on it later)
6. What is your osu!'s screen resolution? 1366x768
7. Do you prefer fullscreen or windowed mode? fullscreen
8. How do you hold/grip your mouse? fingertip
9. What is your mousepad? (or where do you place your mouse?) none/smooth wooden surface
10. What are your problems/issues while you're playing? (e.g can't spin well, that jumps, streams...) fast streams, but I'm worse in jumps
Nightfirecat
25 posts
Joined July 2010
Nightfirecat
1. 6/11
2. 1.6 (or 1.5, don't remember)
3. No.
4. 800
5. Microsoft Intellipoint
6. 1680x1050
7. Fullscreen
8. Claw Grip
9. No mousepad; I just use my desk.
10. Long streams, but what else is new?

Honestly, these will vary greatly from person to person - I'm fairly certain that there is no 'magic combination' that will make somebody a great mouse-only player. >_>
Anzo
762 posts
Joined December 2010
Topic Starter
Anzo

Nightfirecat wrote:

Honestly, these will vary greatly from person to person - I'm fairly certain that there is no 'magic combination' that will make somebody a great mouse-only player. >_>
^lol... that "magic combination", my own setup is good enough...
Teliko
40 posts
Joined January 2011
Teliko
1. What is your Windows mouse pointer speed? 9/11
2. What is your osu!'s mouse sensitivity? 1
3. Did you enable the "Precision Mode" in osu! ? No. Windows precision is on, though.
4. What is the DPI of your mouse? (or what DPI you are using when playing?) 1600
5. What kind of mouse you are using? RAT 9
6. What is your osu!'s screen resolution? 1024x768
7. Do you prefer fullscreen or windowed mode? Window
8. How do you hold/grip your mouse? Palm
9. What is your mousepad? (or where do you place your mouse?) Alienware 17x mousepad
10. What are your problems/issues while you're playing? (e.g can't spin well, that jumps, streams...) Getting from left to right hand side of the screen quickly enough on fast songs. Fixing this by gradually increasing mouse sensitivity a small bit every few days.
PaiYuri
70 posts
Joined March 2012
PaiYuri
1. What is your Windows mouse pointer speed? 4/11
2. What is your osu!'s mouse sensitivity? 1.0x
3. Did you enable the "Precision Mode" in osu! ? Nope.
4. What is the DPI of your mouse? (or what DPI you are using when playing?) I don't even know how to check that.
5. What kind of mouse you are using? A USB mouse from Logitech. Can't really say which model.
6. What is your osu!'s screen resolution? 1280x800
7. Do you prefer fullscreen or windowed mode? I use windowed mode.
8. How do you hold/grip your mouse? ...Normal? I'm not aware of multiple ways to hold a mouse.
9. What is your mousepad? (or where do you place your mouse?) ...I rather not answer this one.
10. What are your problems/issues while you're playing? (e.g can't spin well, that jumps, streams...) No real problems, but it can be tricky to place it in a comfortable way.
Hakurouken
80 posts
Joined September 2010
Hakurouken

-A t H e N a- wrote:

Hmm wireless mouse has delays sometimes, try wired you may improve
Thanks Athena :) will give a try to a wired one, any recommendation on model or something?, cheap if possible (less than 30€)
Teliko
40 posts
Joined January 2011
Teliko
Not all wireless mouses necessarily have a delay. Maybe if it's a year or two old, but these days, they usually don't. I'm using a wireless with 0ms delay.
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those

Teliko wrote:

Not all wireless mouses necessarily have a delay. Maybe if it's a year or two old, but these days, they usually don't. I'm using a wireless with 0ms delay.
You're a liar, and the whole tech world can support me.
PaiYuri
70 posts
Joined March 2012
PaiYuri
I never experienced a delay with my wireless mouse. There may be a delay, but it's so low that it's not noticeable.
Teliko
40 posts
Joined January 2011
Teliko

those wrote:

Teliko wrote:

Not all wireless mouses necessarily have a delay. Maybe if it's a year or two old, but these days, they usually don't. I'm using a wireless with 0ms delay.
You're a liar, and the whole tech world can support me.
Come again?
kriers
1,963 posts
Joined April 2010
kriers
Teliko, your settings are horrible and increasing dpi for the sake of hitting corners is the worst idea ever.
I'm only trying to help you here :o
Teliko
40 posts
Joined January 2011
Teliko

kriers wrote:

Teliko, your settings are horrible and increasing dpi for the sake of hitting corners is the worst idea ever.
I'm only trying to help you here :o
Any particular reason you find them horrible? Dimensions are default, osu sensitivity is default, windows enhanced precision is required to be off for RTS gaming. If I can't physically reach the distance between two notes in enough time, the best solution is adjusting myself to a higher sensitivity. Interested to know which aspect of my settings you're specifically criticising, seeing as sensitivity is a personal preference.
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those

Nyarlor wrote:

There may be a delay, but it's so low that it's not noticeable.
Correct answer.
kriers
1,963 posts
Joined April 2010
kriers

Teliko wrote:

kriers wrote:

Teliko, your settings are horrible and increasing dpi for the sake of hitting corners is the worst idea ever.
I'm only trying to help you here :o
Any particular reason you find them horrible? Dimensions are default, osu sensitivity is default, windows enhanced precision is required to be off for RTS gaming. If I can't physically reach the distance between two notes in enough time, the best solution is adjusting myself to a higher sensitivity. Interested to know which aspect of my settings you're specifically criticising, seeing as sensitivity is a personal preference.
It could be a misunderstanding in wether you decided to use mouse precision in windows or not. In this post, you tell me you turned it off, which is fair enough. In the other post, you claimed to have enabled the "enhance pointer precision" toggle in windows.
In any case, doing that isn't ideal for any kind of mouse play as it makes muscle memory much more complex.

The main reason why you struggle with reaching the distance between two notes is because you haven't been playing enough yet.
Increasing dpi will perhaps solve that problem faster than just training with your physical abilites, but over time, this will make you lose a great amount of precision and it will make you struggle with smaller hitcircles later on as you progress as a player.

Lastly, yes it is all preference, but play styles all have pros and cons and even though good players will adjust to about any setting, it's important to focus on the settings that pay off the most as an end product.
Teliko
40 posts
Joined January 2011
Teliko
Oh, you're correct, that's a mistake on my behalf. Enhanced pointer precision is always off. In regards to sensitivity, as long as the dpi doesn't go beyond the stage where pixelskipping becomes an issue, I can't imagine high dpi having negative effects in the long run if I adjust properly to the sensitivity. I have indeed only picked up Osu recently, but a lot of the technique will carry over from RTS gaming, which I've been doing for years.
-Athena-
1,414 posts
Joined June 2011
-Athena-
low dpi, around default sensitivity, enchance pointer precision off and you're pretty much good to go, the rest depends on you

also hakurouken i cant really help you with that, i use a crap mouse and im a noob as well D:
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
1. What is your Windows mouse pointer speed? 6/11
2. What is your osu!'s mouse sensitivity? 1x
3. Did you enable the "Precision Mode" in osu! ? nope, idk what it does
4. What is the DPI of your mouse? 400 dpi
5. What kind of mouse you are using? Logitech M-UAE96. It's really old.
6. What is your osu!'s screen resolution? 1024x600
7. Do you prefer fullscreen or windowed mode? windowed
8. How do you hold/grip your mouse? always claw
9. What is your mousepad? a random generic one
10. What are your problems/issues while you're playing? always overshoot or undershoot pattern jumps. I'm usually pretty good with spinning and streaming though. Though i can't stream above 230 bpm. Sometimes hand pains from claw gripping my mouse.
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Hakurouken
80 posts
Joined September 2010
Hakurouken
@Athena np ^^' i guess ill just look for one of those ranking of mouses and start checking by the bottom.
How
61 posts
Joined October 2011
How
1. MAX
2. 2.8x
3. Yeap
4. 3200dpi
5. R.A.T. 9
6. 1280x800
7. Always fullscreen. Suck in window mode :(
8. Plam Grip.
9. Ehh.. Mousepad w/ Miku on it ... Definitly not for gaming :P
10. Hell jumping.
LnDSuv
35 posts
Joined January 2012
LnDSuv
1. What is your Windows mouse pointer speed? 6/11 (I guess it is default)
2. What is your osu!'s mouse sensitivity? 1.0x
3. Did you enable the "Precision Mode" in osu!? Yes, but I don't know for what reason :(
4. What is the DPI of your mouse? (or what DPI you are using when playing?) 1800
5. What kind of mouse you are using? Logitech MX518
6. What is your osu!'s screen resolution? I used to play fullscreen (1600x900), now 1024x768
7. Do you prefer fullscreen or windowed mode? no real difference, but in windowed mode it's easier to manipulate my laptop
8. How do you hold/grip your mouse? umm...don't know how to describe :D
9. What is your mousepad? (or where do you place your mouse?) usual mousepad
10. What are your problems/issues while you're playing? (e.g can't spin well, that jumps, streams...) fast jumps. I just can't reach about 0.5 cm to note if there is a jump from one side of the screen to another...GOD, HOW I HATE WHEN IT HAPPENS. Btw, I've read some comments from this thread and I'm confused. How the hell you manage to play with default sensitivity and 400 DPI. I tried that and I had to move my hand like mad :(
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