Objection?bmin11 wrote:
I don't really care for the perfect win, but why throw away our shields AKA jesters? We can have more nights to perform our abilities if we just no-lynch and let them kill those jesters one by one.
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13 vs 11 (assuming mafia want to help town)Salvage wrote:
That's assuming some jesters want to risk their win to give the win to others since they will lose that power on later days and town will right asap know who all the jesters are making it much easier and taking everything out of the question, aka won't happen.
12 vs 10
11 vs 9
10 vs 8
etc etc. this assumes a jester is shot every night though. So yes some jesters will lose the game however if they follow a no lynch schedule they are guaranteed to lose no matter what because well, no lynches.
So jesteroonies, who's in?
I have a feeling Rantai is mafia trying to pose as a jester
Already stated I am not a jester.
Basically how this is going to work, fellow indies is that we're going to break the trend. Instead of lynching scum, we're going to lynch town and mafia. It'll be glorious.
Basically how this is going to work, fellow indies is that we're going to break the trend. Instead of lynching scum, we're going to lynch town and mafia. It'll be glorious.
I'm going to do whatever, throwing in newcomers into the mix makes it unreliable though.
unvote vote rantai
You would.
Seriously though it is the best plan imo. Well unless you're town/mafia I guess.
But come on you kill joy.
Seriously though it is the best plan imo. Well unless you're town/mafia I guess.
But come on you kill joy.
Wishy-washy voting, Sync. Good job showing everyone that you're a jester.
^
lol nice catch i didn't see that.
Also btw that jester thing is not gonna happen.
And the no-lynch situation is rejected by Mashley cause he's too much into the 'no lynch is the worst idea' thing that is usually applicable on most of the games, that's whats wrong with generalizing concepts, no lynch shouldn't be an option in this game if it wasn't good in any situation (it actually is on the last days sometimes but it can be used to help town in this game D1 and maybe D2)
I'd love to hear some valid arguments against it Mashley, cause i already gave several ones that says why is it good, otherwise ur oppenly playing against town the same way Rantai is.
lol nice catch i didn't see that.
Also btw that jester thing is not gonna happen.
And the no-lynch situation is rejected by Mashley cause he's too much into the 'no lynch is the worst idea' thing that is usually applicable on most of the games, that's whats wrong with generalizing concepts, no lynch shouldn't be an option in this game if it wasn't good in any situation (it actually is on the last days sometimes but it can be used to help town in this game D1 and maybe D2)
I'd love to hear some valid arguments against it Mashley, cause i already gave several ones that says why is it good, otherwise ur oppenly playing against town the same way Rantai is.
Because I can:
Vote: Salvage
Vote: Salvage
That's the whole point. You see the indies don't HAVE to play with the town this game.
That's a general concept that can be thrown out the window because it's the majority that has the power.
Basically they are all presented with 2 choices. Follow town and get picked off one by one as they are copped or band together and deny a town/mafia win.
Up to you guys, but I like the sound of the second one.
That's a general concept that can be thrown out the window because it's the majority that has the power.
Basically they are all presented with 2 choices. Follow town and get picked off one by one as they are copped or band together and deny a town/mafia win.
Up to you guys, but I like the sound of the second one.
For the sake of fun and giggles I beseech you jesters and indie to rise up against our town oppressors and show them the power of the jesters (and indies).
Makes him pro-jester to me, good.
If you are anti-jester, you are to be lynched.
If you are anti-jester, you are to be lynched.
I've said it before. I'm as town as town can be.
...wait. I just realized, that means nothing at this moment.
I honestly don't care who wins.
I honestly don't care who wins.
..as long as it's not mafia.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
...wait. I just realized, that means nothing at this moment.
I honestly don't care who wins.
get the townieSwiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
I've said it before. I'm as town as town can be.
vote: vash
Yes, because I'm never townie. >_> (In your eyes, that is)Wojjan wrote:
get the townieSwiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
I've said it before. I'm as town as town can be.
vote: vash
Vote: No-lynch
Im mean and won't simply let a survivor win by stating their wincon, scum should NK a jester if they want to win, if that wasn't obvious.
Im mean and won't simply let a survivor win by stating their wincon, scum should NK a jester if they want to win, if that wasn't obvious.
^ clearly mafia.
If jesters are going to overthrow town and mafia, I'd rather cooperate with mafia for the first days instead of letting the jesters lynch us.
I'm gonna laugh really hard when this strategy goes to waste, 'cause in the long run, it's not that helpful at all.
I mean, sure, there are 11 jesters out there, but does that really mean you should give a damn that they're there? Nah. Going for a 100% no-lynch strategy doesn't necessarily mean that you'll get jesters every single time. Hell, even the mafia could do something like "Let's NK this guy" or "Let's NK that guy". It's all pointless for town to try to side with the mafia. I wouldn't even be surprised if Salvage IS mafia, to be honest.
I mean, sure, there are 11 jesters out there, but does that really mean you should give a damn that they're there? Nah. Going for a 100% no-lynch strategy doesn't necessarily mean that you'll get jesters every single time. Hell, even the mafia could do something like "Let's NK this guy" or "Let's NK that guy". It's all pointless for town to try to side with the mafia. I wouldn't even be surprised if Salvage IS mafia, to be honest.
Vote Salvage and you may just be spared for now, guy.
Besides we'll need some townies to lynch the jesters. It's all down to if you want to co-operate or die by the hands of the mob.
And it's more hilarious this way.
Besides we'll need some townies to lynch the jesters. It's all down to if you want to co-operate or die by the hands of the mob.
And it's more hilarious this way.
I propose two options for town and mafia if Jesters do really want to do what Rantai is doing.
We quickly do a No-Lynch and keep on going against the jesters denying that from happening, or we hammer the indie (possible jester too) and go on with the same idea ignoring that awfull plan.
So basically we can do a no lynch and i'll scan Rantai to make sure he's not a jester and lynch him tommorrow, and we can arrange here who Mafia should kill here, town and mafia should work together atleast till Jesters are a minimun of people .. or we can lynch Rantai asap and risk him being a Jester (i personally do not like this choice but it's one to take in mind).
Either the need of making a target for mafia to kill it's needed cause otherwise we'll be facing the same jester problem again tommorrow.
So here is my suggest: No lynch today, mafia kills Sync i scan Rantai.
any objections?
We quickly do a No-Lynch and keep on going against the jesters denying that from happening, or we hammer the indie (possible jester too) and go on with the same idea ignoring that awfull plan.
So basically we can do a no lynch and i'll scan Rantai to make sure he's not a jester and lynch him tommorrow, and we can arrange here who Mafia should kill here, town and mafia should work together atleast till Jesters are a minimun of people .. or we can lynch Rantai asap and risk him being a Jester (i personally do not like this choice but it's one to take in mind).
Either the need of making a target for mafia to kill it's needed cause otherwise we'll be facing the same jester problem again tommorrow.
So here is my suggest: No lynch today, mafia kills Sync i scan Rantai.
any objections?
Even though he claimed survivor, and you want to lynch him.
Smart thinking, Salvage.
/sarcasm
Smart thinking, Salvage.
/sarcasm
Again you don't have the majority, Salvage.
Even if you convinced every mafia and town to work with you, you'll be 3 votes short.
Even if you convinced every mafia and town to work with you, you'll be 3 votes short.
?
explain that swift please cause i don't get what you mean .. we'd be lynching someone who isn't town and jester .. so it would help town also taking in mind he has anti town iniciatives he's suggesting.
explain that swift please cause i don't get what you mean .. we'd be lynching someone who isn't town and jester .. so it would help town also taking in mind he has anti town iniciatives he's suggesting.
Rantai wrote:
Again you don't have the majority, Salvage.
Even if you convinced every mafia and town to work with you, you'll be 3 votes short.
activeness > mayoritiy.
bring them all up and we'll talk then
--> implying town is active
Besides we have a week.
Also requesting a vote count somewhere please.
Besides we have a week.
Also requesting a vote count somewhere please.
You do a no-lynch, and you get a 0% chance of hitting town, mafia, and jesters. Cool, but wouldn't you rather try to hit a mafia instead? Sure, odds are, you'll hit a jester, but think about it for a moment, would you rather go for a lynch and at least TRY to get a mafia instead of doing this no-lynch strategy?
Now, about the survivor. Why do you want to lynch a survivor in the first place? Unless he really IS a jester (which I doubt, by the way), I don't think doing this is a good idea.
Now, about the survivor. Why do you want to lynch a survivor in the first place? Unless he really IS a jester (which I doubt, by the way), I don't think doing this is a good idea.
I'd rather like it if jesters actually earned their win by being lynch-able, I guess I may change my mind later in the day :s
Earning their win is by banding together and forcing it instead of milling around hoping to be lynched.
No?
No?
Jesters WANT to get voted for.
I don't. ...nor do I know why Wojjan is voting for me.
I don't. ...nor do I know why Wojjan is voting for me.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
You do a no-lynch, and you get a 0% chance of hitting town, mafia, and jesters. Cool, but wouldn't you rather try to hit a mafia instead? Sure, odds are, you'll hit a jester, but think about it for a moment, would you rather go for a lynch and at least TRY to get a mafia instead of doing this no-lynch strategy?
Now, about the survivor. Why do you want to lynch a survivor in the first place? Unless he really IS a jester (which I doubt, by the way), I don't think doing this is a good idea.
i wouldn't try to hit mafia instead cause that would give jesters more advantage against town, we need to cooperate with mafia to take the jesters away from the picture and take some mafias in the proccess, then play a traditional game after that, if we take mafia at the beginning it's a free win for atleast 70% of the jesters and a possible high chances of loosing for town.
the no-lynch strategy can break all this cons regarding the town dissadvantage against the jesters if mafia works with town atleast the first two days
about lynching the indie it's just because he's having several anti-town suggestions and that doesn't help us at all.
Simple, you're not a jester.
Though I'd still rather see Salvage lynched because you seem to not be against us, for now.
Though I'd still rather see Salvage lynched because you seem to not be against us, for now.
..You know what would be hilarious?
I'm restating my earlier claim about Salvage, by the way:
If he was a cop jester, but instead of winning by getting X amount of jester searches, he gets a power for every jester he searches. I dunno what, but it's possible.
I'm restating my earlier claim about Salvage, by the way:
If he was a cop jester, but instead of winning by getting X amount of jester searches, he gets a power for every jester he searches. I dunno what, but it's possible.
Hey mafia, do you really want to help this backstabbing 2 timer?Salvage wrote:
i wouldn't try to hit mafia instead cause that would give jesters more advantage against town, we need to cooperate with mafia to take the jesters away from the picture and take some mafias in the proccess, then play a traditional game after that, if we take mafia at the beginning it's a free win for atleast 70% of the jesters and a possible high chances of loosing for town.
At least I'm open about my intentions and hey who knows, if you kill the town instead of jesters and then lynch them one by one, you'll actually have majority and win too. Because there will eventually be 0 town and 2 jesters assuming me and the other indie live. It's actually very beneficial to you because EVERYONE wins except town.
Rantai wrote:
Simple, you're not a jester.
Though I'd still rather see Salvage lynched because you seem to not be against us, for now.
is that a jester claim