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Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Also, just because I have this strange hunch, I think Salvage is a Cop Jester and his win con is to search a certain amount of jesters.

But hey, it's just a random thought. You never know. It could be some other claimed cop.
Sync
mod: Do jesters have specific wincons?

how did you know this
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
First post:

LunaticMara wrote:

To make things even worse, every jester has some special powers. Are you ready for the madness?
Sync
that doesn't mean they have specific wincons
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
You never know.

Hell, even Rantai said something about a doc jester wincon not too long ago.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Rantai wrote:

The matter of fact is; our doctor is actually a bodyguard jester who's win condition is to get shot.
...Okay, so it's not exactly a doc jester, but still, you get my point.
Sync
confirmed jesters:
-- Swiftail yellow wolf
-- rantai
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
It's an assumption, Sync. I don't know for sure if they have a special wincon. Hell, I don't have one.
Salvage
Nothing it's confirmed till it's confirmed Sync i won't go along with that they can be mafia still



the rantai thing was just an assumption i think and it's a pretty useless one just like the one everyone is doing right now, i won't base anything on assumption till i rolecop atleast a few




if there is a motivator motivate me and we have x2 confirmed per day, not for sure anyways, not so likely like the being of a doctor.
Sync
then what made you think that they would have one
Sync
using the word confirmed lightly of course
Salvage
cause doctor is commun in every mafia game




i think there's allways been one on every game i played, that's what makes me confirm it and rely on it, chance based (pretty high if you ask me).
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Also, just because I have this strange hunch, I think Salvage is a Cop Jester and his win con is to search a certain amount of jesters.

But hey, it's just a random thought. You never know. It could be some other claimed cop.
and

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

It's an assumption, Sync. I don't know for sure if they have a special wincon. Hell, I don't have one.
Geez. I don't know how many times you've missed the bolded words.
Sync

Salvage wrote:

cause doctor is commun in every mafia game




i think there's allways been one on every game i played, that's what makes me confirm it and rely on it, chance based (pretty high if you ask me).
no I meant the specific wincons

also I don't believe you swiftail yellow wolf

please change your name to something easier to type
Jinxy

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

It's an assumption, Sync. I don't know for sure if they have a special wincon. Hell, I don't have one.
Tossin' that out
Sync
he could be lying
Topic Starter
Mara

Sync wrote:

mod: Do jesters have specific wincons?

They don't, but some jesters have a bonus objective to get more powers to help themself.
Sync
oh ok thx for clearing it up
Salvage
ok guys i'm going to uni then work i probabbly won't be able to post at work this week anyways so back in about 10 hours
Rantai
... you took my bodyguard speculation seriously?

Well ok then.
roufou
Hi, Im a completely roleless town, fabolous how Im contributing
Rantai
Holy freaking who.

Hiiiiiiiiii.

Lynch Salvage please.
thelewa
I sleep for 12 hours and we have 14 more pages

why
Jinxy
So checking Rantai's ISO, he wants to lynch Salvage because Sal's the most town and least jesterly

Really now

I can't even vote Rantai because that would be defeating the point of this game
Jinxy
HI THERE QUARAEZHA
Mianki

ragelewa wrote:

I sleep for 12 hours and we have 14 more pages

why
Because smart people wanna smart
Rantai
You shouldn't be voting me anyway, I'm just a survivor.

Basically we want to lynch town (or mafia until they have 1) to allow mafia to kill off all the jesters. Then we can do whatever after that.
Rantai
But of course people want to no lynch when it's very clear there has to be some kind of anti-that mechanism.
Ekaru

Rantai wrote:

But of course people want to no lynch when it's very clear there has to be some kind of anti-that mechanism.
To prevent us from doing it over and over, yes; it's called "the mafia and other kill roles killing us while we do nothing."
Salvage
Okay i just made me a bit of time to post and i want to say that i find it hillarous that Rantai is PROPOSING TO LYNCH TOWN



He clearly thinks that i'm town and he's openly proposing to lynch a town member and a clear way to detect and nulify jesters



As anti town as that is i'm not voting him for reasons previously stated, i'll stick with the no-lynch situation since i think there isn't any anti no-lynch mechanism, to be honest i don't expect mara to implement that (not disregarding him, just characterizing him.)
Mashley
Vote Salvage
Because he was the first to seriously suggest a no-lynch which is obviously a ridiculous idea.
Quaraezha

JInxyjem wrote:

HI THERE QUARAEZHA
Too much nonsensical shit is going on, I don't want to join your silly claims just yet.
Mashley
You didn't expect a sensible game, did you?
Salvage
It is a ridicously idea cause people say it is.


^ That is the thing you base on to say it is an 'obviously' ridiculous idea.





The thing that you 'obviously' don't take in mind is that every game is not clearly the same, and this one is different than the others for reasons based on the setup, regarding that we know there are 11 jesters in this game and the only (best) way to end this game with a Town win is with no jester deaths and with obviously mafia taken off.


Now all this result cannot be achieved if we lynch any jester day 1, which is a really high chance this day .. a little bit less than a 50% chances of doing so, and a bit more having in mind all the wifom involved in the situation.


From all this if we no-lynch there is also needed to have in mind that a mafia kill has the same chances of hitting a jester, plus my investigation (also the possibility of Backfire being a cop too, not the same results ofc cause a normal Cop doesn't have the same succes of outing Jesters but a nice one to out Mafia instead), having the same chances of denying a jester lynch.



So basically don't take the No-Lynch thing as a similar concept or idea of how usefull it is without having in mind any situation at all, and finally with this i mean that you should analyze every situation in particular to know which chain of actions is the the one that fits it the most.
Mashley
Salvage you know we don't lose if a jester gets lynched right lol? I know we'll probably hit a jester but that will just make us more likely to hit mafia tomorrow... we can win alongside jesters.
thelewa
Salvage knows that, but he just wants a perfect win
Salvage
I don't want to, that's the point, i want town and town only to win


You're suggesting the same idea as Rantai with a different point of appoaching doing so, lynching town is no better than doing a no lynch, actually is way worse and it doesn't help the situation, doing a No-Lynch as i already said gives Mafia a use that helps town.


To be honest it all comes up to me wanting to do a no jester lynch win on town's side, and i feel like you see the things from a really objective way generalizing concepts way too much, the no-lynch here has a lot of pro's and a few cons which i personally don't agree with (the cons i mean).
bmin11
sooooo much tl;dr posts wow


I don't really care for the perfect win, but why throw away our shields AKA jesters? We can have more nights to perform our abilities if we just no-lynch and let them kill those jesters one by one.
Salvage
There is also that, i to be honest care about a perfect win .. but the jesters could work as a 'shield' too, the thing is that doing a no lynch we protect our townies from mafia kills and take them out instead at the same time making our lynches easier to make.
Topic Starter
Mara
Few jesters just got blessed by Satan. Their powers has been raised. Some of them have new win conditions.
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