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Eveline Fischer - Ice Cave Chant

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Topic Starter
bomber34
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Freitag, 17. Februar 2012 at 17:54:07

Artist: Eveline Fischer
Title: Ice Cave Chant
Source: Donkey Kong Country
Tags: Snes 16-bit Rare Nintendo david wise
BPM: 106,63
Filesize: 2757kb
Play Time: 01:41
Difficulties Available:
  1. Candy Kong (0,96 stars, 80 notes)
  2. Diddy Kong (2,33 stars, 119 notes)
  3. Donkey Kong (4,4 stars, 215 notes)
Download: Eveline Fischer - Ice Cave Chant
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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For the old Donkey Kong Country project by 0_o
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=13264

I love Donkey Kong Country :)
This is the only song next to Gang-Plank Galleon which is only used for one level ^^
I thank everyone for modding in advance.

Gonna re-map Donkey Kong so this could get graveyarded :(

Mod Count : 12


SPOILER
8/30/11 - BPM and Off-Set correction - thx to theMikeAG
9/9/11 - Another BPM and Off-Set correction for easy and normal - thx NastCF
9/12/11 - Hard,Insane edit* and BPM Offset correction
10/27/11 - TicClick mod :D thx TicClick
(note: I only did the Diff's and general Mod ....
10/10/11 Ritakas Mod :)
11/21/11 Few styling parts ...
12/9/11 Styling part complete
12/13/11 Fabriciorby's mod :D Ty very much
12/24/11 Kyshiro mod, merry christmas :D
1/9/12 CDFA mod; a bit late and insane isn't finished yet but most stuff is done *will be updated*
1/11/12 Crimmi mod (still have to do the general part ...) thx Crimmi :D
1/20/12 Changing Diff. "Kiddy Kong" to "Candy Kong" / deleting diff. "Cranky Kong" / trying to make bookmarks logical
1/23/12 Changing Audiofile thx Crimmi for giving me the song
1/31/12 BPM / offset help thx SilverDragon
2/3/12 Few Pattern/Slider changes. Timing changes complete
2/6/12 New BG thx Soaprman :DD and some pattern changes
2/17/12 Lanttu's mod . thank you Lanttu :3
theMikeAG
Here's what you need to fix before modding can start. ;)

~Need To Fix~

1. You Need a Good Background for all 4 Difficulties. I took the liberty to edit a background for you. Once you delete the old backgrounds, insert the new one and full submit. http://up.ppy.sh/files/slipslideride.png
A Good First Impression will attract DKC fans. :)

2. Your Timing is incorrect. Once again, I took the liberty of finding it for you.
BPM: 106.675
Offset: 9887
Be sure that you change the timing in all 4 maps.

3. You will need to remap everything once you've changed the Timing. Be sure to use proper spacing!

Fix all of this, and your map will be mod ready!
Topic Starter
bomber34

theMikeAG wrote:

Here's what you need to fix before modding can start. ;)

~Need To Fix~

1. You Need a Good Background for all 4 Difficulties. I took the liberty to edit a background for you. Once you delete the old backgrounds, insert the new one and full submit. http://up.ppy.sh/files/slipslideride.png
A Good First Impression will attract DKC fans. :) thx :) finished

2. Your Timing is incorrect. Once again, I took the liberty of finding it for you.
BPM: 106.675
Offset: 9887
Be sure that you change the timing in all 4 maps. finished ;)

3. You will need to remap everything once you've changed the Timing. Be sure to use proper spacing! i hope this is also finished

Fix all of this, and your map will be mod ready!

Thank you very much :)
NastCF
I've tested Easy thoroughly, and I have some suggestions:

- timing is still incorrect, on this difficulty at least. From what I can see by messing with the map, the correct values should be 106,68 (BPM) and 9.887 (offset)
- the slider velocity is too low, even for easy mode :x I recommend setting it to 1,00
- the first beat feels kinda out of place. Try placing it earlier (a second or so)
- lastly, some of the sliders are really confusing, but i'm not sure how to explain. At least 01:07 and onward is perfect in that regard :3

I'll test the other difficulties later
NastCF
Normal and Hard now:

Normal
This difficulty's probably the most stable, but I think the first few sliders at the beggining are a tad awkward (though the song used is also to blame). I suggest starting and ending the third slider at 00:21:136 and 00:22:823 respectively, and ending the fourth one at 00:25:073.

Hard
This one I'm afraid needs a lot of work. For the most part the beats feel off and don't go along with the song too well. I could give you my suggestions like I did above, but I was wondering if I could actually edit it and send it to you? Afterwards, if you're not satisfied, you can ignore my changes ^^;

Leaving Insane for later (I've been modding and mapping nearly all day x_x)
Topic Starter
bomber34
Thank you very much :D
I will see what i can improve ( first beatmap yay :D )

too bad i don't have much time X.x
of course you can send me your " Edit "
imRitaka
Requested mod.

First off, you'll need to do a full-submit of your map.
Whenever I downloaded it, I only got one difficulty, but a full-submit should fix that.
PM me whenever you do this, and I'll give you a proper mod. :D
imRitaka
Alright. Now that the difficulties are fixed, here's your mod.

[General]
Remove 'Donkey Kong Country Eveline Fischer' from your tags. Those are already your source and artist.
You only have two combo colors. Try adding one or two more so it makes the map feel more colorful.
In every difficulty, go into Song Setup and uncheck Enable Countdown. It sounds better that way.

[Kiddy Kong]
00:21:395 > Move this slider 1/2 beat back. (The white tick on the left.) It sounds a little better to me.
00:34:334 > Move this slider 1/2 beat forward. (White tick on the right.) Again, it sounds a bit better.
00:36:584 > Move this slider 1/2 forward.
00:59:367 > End this spinner 1/2 beat later.
01:14:838 > Remove new combo?
01:15:559 > ^
01:17:088 > This slider has a red end point. Straight sliders don't need these. (To remove it, just click the slider. Then hold down Ctrl and right click the red point. It should turn it into a normal endpoint.)
01:30:589 > Remove new combo?
01:30:871 > ^

[Diddy Kong]
Taking a quick look at this, I can see that some of the spacing here is very off. It looks like you were using 1.8x Distance Spacing. (In case you didn't know, hold alt to check what Distance Spacing you're using.) I suggest going through this difficulty and fixing the spacing while using 1.0x.
00:16:613 - 00:23:364 > I don't think you need to do a new combo spam here. Just make (1,1,1,1) into (1,2) (1,2).
01:11:462 > Extend this slider to 01:12:306.
01:42:403 > Begin this spinner 1/2 beat earlier and end it 1/1 beat later.

[Donkey Kong]
A bit of advice. A lot of people these days are using Circle Size 4 for most of their hard maps. (And insane ones too.) I suggest changing the circle size here to 4, but leaving it as 5 in Cranky Kong.
00:16:613 - 00:23:364 > Again, you probably don't need the new combo spam.
00:19:285 > Move this slider 3/4 earlier and make it repeat one more time.
00:21:536 > ^
00:25:333 - 00:26:317 > I suggest not stacking so many notes. Try spacing them out a little.
00:36:584 > Remove this new combo.
00:38:272 > This slider has an extra red point. Delete that.
00:40:522 > New combo?
00:59:508 > Begin this slider 1/4 beat earlier. End it on 01:03:868.
01:42:122 > End this spinner on 01:46:060.

[Cranky Kong]
At first glace, some of the notes in this song aren't following the song, and the spacing needs to be fixed. (Again, I recommend you use 1.0x Distance Spacing.)
For example: 00:58:946 - 00:59:086 > These notes are spaced waaay too far apart. (And also 00:11:691 - 00:11:831 and etc.)
And with notes that don't follow or sound off. An example: 00:13:378 - 00:13:941 > You can remove (2) from both combos. To me, it sounds a lot better.
00:18:723 > This slider should begin 1/4 beat later.

Try going back through this difficulty and adjusting the spacing, and getting rid of notes that sound like they shouldn't be there.
Topic Starter
bomber34

Ritaka wrote:

Alright. Now that the difficulties are fixed, here's your mod.

[General]
Remove 'Donkey Kong Country Eveline Fischer' from your tags. Those are already your source and artist.I did that
You only have two combo colors. Try adding one or two more so it makes the map feel more colorful.There is a reason for that, but maybe i change that later
In every difficulty, go into Song Setup and uncheck Enable Countdown. It sounds better that way. Ok i did that :D

[Kiddy Kong]
00:21:395 > Move this slider 1/2 beat back. (The white tick on the left.) It sounds a little better to me. What do you mean with white tick? I hope i did that
00:34:334 > Move this slider 1/2 beat forward. (White tick on the right.) Again, it sounds a bit better. ^
00:36:584 > Move this slider 1/2 forward. done
00:59:367 > End this spinner 1/2 beat later. done
01:14:838 > Remove new combo? done
01:15:559 > ^ done
01:17:088 > This slider has a red end point. Straight sliders don't need these. (To remove it, just click the slider. Then hold down Ctrl and right click the red point. It should turn it into a normal endpoint.)I did that but what's the point? it doesn't change anything?
01:30:589 > Remove new combo? done
01:30:871 > ^ done

[Diddy Kong]
Taking a quick look at this, I can see that some of the spacing here is very off. It looks like you were using 1.8x Distance Spacing. (In case you didn't know, hold alt to check what Distance Spacing you're using.) I suggest going through this difficulty and fixing the spacing while using 1.0x. I hope it is better now
00:16:613 - 00:23:364 > I don't think you need to do a new combo spam here. Just make (1,1,1,1) into (1,2) (1,2). ok
01:11:462 > Extend this slider to 01:12:306. yep sounds better
01:42:403 > Begin this spinner 1/2 beat earlier and end it 1/1 beat later. ok

[Donkey Kong]
A bit of advice. A lot of people these days are using Circle Size 4 for most of their hard maps. (And insane ones too.) I suggest changing the circle size here to 4, but leaving it as 5 in Cranky Kong. ok
00:16:613 - 00:23:364 > Again, you probably don't need the new combo spam. I probably like combo spam xD
00:19:285 > Move this slider 3/4 earlier and make it repeat one more time. ok
00:21:536 > ^ ok
00:25:333 - 00:26:317 > I suggest not stacking so many notes. Try spacing them out a little. I hope it is better now
00:36:584 > Remove this new combo. ok
00:38:272 > This slider has an extra red point. Delete that. ok but again ... what's the point?
00:40:522 > New combo? ok
00:59:508 > Begin this slider 1/4 beat earlier. End it on 01:03:868. ok
01:42:122 > End this spinner on 01:46:060. ok

[Cranky Kong]
At first glace, some of the notes in this song aren't following the song, and the spacing needs to be fixed. (Again, I recommend you use 1.0x Distance Spacing.) I don't know ... i changed some of them but I like some jumps :D
For example: 00:58:946 - 00:59:086 > These notes are spaced waaay too far apart. (And also 00:11:691 - 00:11:831 and etc.) ... it is a little shorter now ... but i think it is ok ... this is insane :D
And with notes that don't follow or sound off. An example: 00:13:378 - 00:13:941 > You can remove (2) from both combos. To me, it sounds a lot better. I tried to fix that but I can't tell if it is ok now ... it is at least for me ^^
00:18:723 > This slider should begin 1/4 beat later. ok

Try going back through this difficulty and adjusting the spacing, and getting rid of notes that sound like they shouldn't be there.
TicClick
Kiddy Kong
  1. 00:25:614 (1) - finish instead of clap?
  2. 00:28:989 (4) - whistle
  3. 00:30:115 (1,2) - whistle for the end
  4. 00:34:615 (1,2) - remove whistle from sliders' body
  5. 00:38:272 (1) - previous one is 2,27x far away from this note. Please, place it closer
  6. 00:38:834 (3,3) - finish for sliders' end
  7. 00:38:272 (1,2,3) - change claps to whistles?
  8. 00:43:616 (1) - finish for the beginning (whistle for the end)
  9. 00:45:866 (2) - whistle instead of claps?
  10. 00:57:117 (3) - map through the break after it
  11. 01:08:368 (1) - finish
  12. 01:15:119 (3) - whistle instead of clap (and the same parts)
Diddy Kong
  1. 00:18:863 (2) - it overlaps previous slider a little
  2. 00:38:272 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - change spacing back to 1.4
  3. 00:38:834 (3,3) - finish for sliders' end
  4. 00:43:616 (1) - finish
  5. 00:59:086 (1) - start it from 00:59:367
  6. 01:08:087 (1) - start from 01:08:368
  7. 01:26:370 (1) - remove break before it
  8. 01:35:090 (2,3) - doesn't look good
  9. 01:39:309 (1,2) - remove finishes
Donkey Kong
  1. 00:29:411 (1) - bad idea, place it somewhere else on timeline, not on the blue tick
  2. 00:38:272 (6) - change its shape a little, looks broken
  3. 00:52:335 (1,2) - & 00:54:586 (1,2) - these pairs (and some others) have the same distance between notes, but their spacing is different. Fix this
  4. 00:57:399 (1) - 1/4 back?
  5. 01:07:946 (1,2,3,4) - I hear 1/8 notes here (slow BPM, so yea, it's possible). If you want, you may add 1/8 repeating slider here instead of first 3 notes
  6. 01:42:122 (1) - end it at 01:46:622
Cranky Kong
  1. 00:17:879 (3) - how should it sound:
    1. Switch to 1/6
    2. Make it 1/6 shorter and switch back to 1/4
  2. 00:20:129 (3) - same
  3. 00:22:379 (3) - same
  4. 00:18:723 (1) - move 1/4 forward and make it 1/4 shorter
  5. 00:26:458 (5) - move 1/4 forward
  6. 00:31:099 (4) - add note instead of it
  7. 00:57:117 (3) - add some notes after it to fill break
  8. 01:07:946 (1) - it should be 1/8 repeats; and add finish to the end
  9. 01:42:122 (1) - should be ended at 01:46:622
Now it's time for General fixes.
  1. I don't think you need 'Video Game' in tags because there's a special category for it
  2. Add -10 to offset (9853) and don't forget about setting preview point again on tick
  3. Since you have every diff starting from notes, enable countdown. It's not easy to get rhythm from first time (too silent in the beginning) and hit notes well
Style note
Your map looks like these old maps from 2008 or 2009. Make it nice-looking, add some good sliders, try to avoid sharp edges and straight lines (for example, Hard: 00:23:645 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - — nice job; 01:10:619 (3) - not nice).

Change some hitsounds; I heard that claps in some places were not suitable (too "rough" or noisy), also, make hitsounds pattern consistent. On one diff you have finish, on the other (at the same time) you have clap or something else. Even some notes which sound similar in music, don't have the similar hitsounds, and this makes me feel bad.

And.. last note: please, make it more rhythmic. I hear that notes in music appear in these places where your notes are, but you need to connect them somehow between each other, or player won't feel when he should hit next note just because he doesn't feel the rhythm.

That's all I want to say.
Topic Starter
bomber34

TicClick wrote:

Kiddy Kong
  1. 00:25:614 (1) - finish instead of clap? Sounds much better
  2. 00:28:989 (4) - whistle ok
  3. 00:30:115 (1,2) - whistle for the end ^
  4. 00:34:615 (1,2) - remove whistle from sliders' body ^
  5. 00:38:272 (1) - previous one is 2,27x far away from this note. Please, place it closer I hope this is better
  6. 00:38:834 (3,3) - finish for sliders' end Sounds much better
  7. 00:38:272 (1,2,3) - change claps to whistles? ^
  8. 00:43:616 (1) - finish for the beginning (whistle for the end) ^
  9. 00:45:866 (2) - whistle instead of claps? ^
  10. 00:57:117 (3) - map through the break after it ok
  11. 01:08:368 (1) - finish ^
  12. 01:15:119 (3) - whistle instead of clap (and the same parts) ^
^

Diddy Kong
  1. 00:18:863 (2) - it overlaps previous slider a little I hope this looks better
  2. 00:38:272 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - change spacing back to 1.4 Yeah this should work
  3. 00:38:834 (3,3) - finish for sliders' end ok
  4. 00:43:616 (1) - finish ^
  5. 00:59:086 (1) - start it from 00:59:367 ^
  6. 01:08:087 (1) - start from 01:08:368 ^
  7. 01:26:370 (1) - remove break before it ^
  8. 01:35:090 (2,3) - doesn't look good ^
  9. 01:39:309 (1,2) - remove finishes ^


Donkey Kong
  1. 00:29:411 (1) - bad idea, place it somewhere else on timeline, not on the blue tick I put it 1/4 tick back i hope this is better
  2. 00:38:272 (6) - change its shape a little, looks broken I hope it looks smooth now
  3. 00:52:335 (1,2) - & 00:54:586 (1,2) - these pairs (and some others) have the same distance between notes, but their spacing is different. Fix this Ok :) they have same distance now
  4. 00:57:399 (1) - 1/4 back? ok
  5. 01:07:946 (1,2,3,4) - I hear 1/8 notes here (slow BPM, so yea, it's possible). If you want, you may add 1/8 repeating slider here instead of first 3 notes I don't know if this works good (for me it does) but ok
  6. 01:42:122 (1) - end it at 01:46:622 ok
Cranky Kong
  1. 00:17:879 (3) - how should it sound:
    1. Switch to 1/6
    2. Make it 1/6 shorter and switch back to 1/4
  2. 00:20:129 (3) - same
  3. 00:22:379 (3) - same I did them
  4. 00:18:723 (1) - move 1/4 forward and make it 1/4 shorter
  5. 00:26:458 (5) - move 1/4 forward ^
  6. 00:31:099 (4) - add note instead of it I hope this works
  7. 00:57:117 (3) - add some notes after it to fill break ^
  8. 01:07:946 (1) - it should be 1/8 repeats; and add finish to the end ^
  9. 01:42:122 (1) - should be ended at 01:46:622 ok


Now it's time for General fixes.
  1. I don't think you need 'Video Game' in tags because there's a special category for it I think you're right
  2. Add -10 to offset (9853) and don't forget about setting preview point again on tick Don't know if I did it correct but I think I does
  3. Since you have every diff starting from notes, enable countdown. It's not easy to get rhythm from first time (too silent in the beginning) and hit notes well Yeah I tried it but I'm not sure about that ... i hope it helps[/colorl[/list]
I thx you very much :3
I do the Styling Part later
fabriciorby
Kiddy Kong

00:52:325 (1,2) - Distance Spacing too big?
00:53:451 (3) - Spacing
00:59:357 (1) - whistle or make the volume lower
01:10:046 (3,4,5) - this spacing is a little bit confusing
01:21:016 (1) - same here
01:31:704 (1) - just whistle
01:42:112 (1) - whistle or make the volume lower

Diddy Kong

00:10:415 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - put some hitsounds here
00:16:603 (1,2) - try to make these sliders more goodlooking, you can ask me in-game if you need help
00:18:853 (2) - Spacing
00:46:700 (4) - take this finish out and try to make this a 1/2 slider, just like this 00:44:450 (4)
00:48:106 (1) - finish
00:48:388 (2) - whistle
00:48:669 (3) - whistle
00:49:231 (5) - whistle
00:50:357 (3) - whistle
00:52:325 (1) - whistle
00:54:576 (1) - whistle
00:56:826 (2) - remove finish put whistle
00:57:389 (4) - try to make something like this http://puu.sh/asG4 and put whistle at the start and end of the slider
01:16:797 (2) - whistle
01:19:047 (2) - whistle
01:19:328 (3) - remove first whistle and add on reverse arrows
01:23:266 (1) - remove finish
01:24:110 (4) - add finish
01:39:299 (1) - whistle
01:42:112 (1), 00:59:357 (1) - same as easy

Donkey kong

transform all the claps into whistle before starting this mod
00:10:978 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - try to take out some whistles, there are many
00:25:323 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - use whistles instead of claps, please, i don't like how it sounds in this song lol
00:27:854 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:29:683 (1,2) - whistle
00:30:386 (2) - remove whistle
00:32:636 (2) - remove whistle
00:32:917 (3) - remove claps/whistle
00:33:058 (4) - transform this into whistle
00:34:605 (5) - Spacing
00:36:855 (5) - ^
00:41:778 (2) - whistle
00:42:340 (4) - add some whistles in this slider
00:46:137 (5) - whistle
00:46:419 (6) - finish at the end
00:54:576 (1) - remove whistle ?
00:56:826 (2) - remove clap add whistle
01:16:797 (2) - whistle
01:18:766 (1,2) - whistle
01:21:297 (2) - whistle
01:24:391 (4) - whistle
01:24:954 (1) - ^
01:25:516 (1) - ^
01:28:048 (6) - ^
01:28:329 (1) - ^
01:28:610 (2) - finish
01:30:298 (1) - whistle
01:32:830 (1) - remove finish
01:35:361 (3) - add whistle at start and end
01:37:330 (1) - whistle
01:37:611 (2) - whistle at start
01:42:112 (1),00:59:357 (1) - same as easy, remove this finish pls

Cranky Kong

00:13:368 (1,1) - bad spacing
00:10:415 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - try to don't use whistle everywhere
00:14:775 (4) - remove clap
00:15:900 (4) - ^
00:17:822 (3) - this slider is wrong, make it going on blue mark
00:20:072 (3) - ^
00:22:322 (3) - ^
00:16:603 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - put some hitsound, just whistles please
00:25:323 (1,2,3,4,5) - transform this claps into whistles please
00:30:526 (3) - too musch whistles in this slider
00:31:089 (4) - whistle
00:34:605 (8) - whistle at the start / end
00:36:855 (2) - ^
00:39:105 (6,1,2,3) - put some whistles, not everywhere please
00:41:356 (5,1,2,3,4) - ^
00:43:325 (1) - it's missing a whistle
00:45:294 (2) - whistle
00:46:841 (8) - whistle at the start, the end you decide
00:49:091 (6) - whistle at the end
00:49:653 (1) - remove whistle
00:50:638 (2) - whistle
00:51:341 (5) - ^
00:51:622 (1,2) - put whistles at the end of the sliders
00:52:607 (2) - whistle at the end
00:57:529 (2) - whistle
00:58:092 (5) - ^
00:58:514 (7) - ^
00:59:357 (1) - blue mark why
01:07:936 (1) - this must finish at 01:08:358
01:09:202 (2) - whistle
01:10:609 (3) - whistle start and end
01:11:734 (1,2,3) - whistle at the sliders end
01:13:140 (3,4,5) - ^
01:14:546 (1,2) - whistle
01:15:109 (3) - whistle at start and end
01:16:515 (1,3,1,2) - whistle, whistle, remove clap, whistle at the start end end
01:18:766 (1) - whistle
01:19:609 (1) - whistle at start/end
01:21:016 (1) - whistle
01:21:860 (3) - whistle
01:22:141 (1,2,3,4) - whistle at the sliders end
01:24:391 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:25:516 (1) - ^
01:25:798 (2) - whistle
01:26:360 (3) - whistle at start and end
01:28:610 (2) - ^
01:28:329 (1) - whistle
01:30:861 (3) - whistle at start and end
01:33:111 (2) - ^
01:35:361 (3) - take this noise out of the slider, just put whistle on the start and end
01:39:299 (1) - whistle
01:40:143 (1) - put some whistles
01:42:112 (1), 00:59:357 (1) - same as easy

this was a hitsound mod lol, pm me in-game if you need help :p
i can help you with some patterns
Topic Starter
bomber34

fabriciorby wrote:

Kiddy Kong

00:52:325 (1,2) - Distance Spacing too big? How did that happen :? done
00:53:451 (3) - Spacing done
00:59:357 (1) - whistle or make the volume lower I think both is good
01:10:046 (3,4,5) - this spacing is a little bit confusing hope this is better
01:21:016 (1) - same here ^
01:31:704 (1) - just whistle ^
01:42:112 (1) - whistle or make the volume lower both :3

Diddy Kong

00:10:415 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - put some hitsounds here I tried ... hope it is better
00:16:603 (1,2) - try to make these sliders more goodlooking, you can ask me in-game if you need help I will do that
00:18:853 (2) - Spacing done
00:46:700 (4) - take this finish out and try to make this a 1/2 slider, just like this 00:44:450 (4) done
00:48:106 (1) - finish done
00:48:388 (2) - whistle ^
00:48:669 (3) - whistle ^
00:49:231 (5) - whistle ^
00:50:357 (3) - whistle ^
00:52:325 (1) - whistle ^
00:54:576 (1) - whistle ^
00:56:826 (2) - remove finish put whistle ^
00:57:389 (4) - try to make something like this http://puu.sh/asG4 and put whistle at the start and end of the slider tried it
01:16:797 (2) - whistle done
01:19:047 (2) - whistle ^
01:19:328 (3) - remove first whistle and add on reverse arrows ^
01:23:266 (1) - remove finish ^
01:24:110 (4) - add finish ^
01:39:299 (1) - whistle ^
01:42:112 (1), 00:59:357 (1) - same as easy ^

Donkey kong

transform all the claps into whistle before starting this mod done
00:10:978 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - try to take out some whistles, there are many I tried
00:25:323 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - use whistles instead of claps, please, i don't like how it sounds in this song lol yep
00:27:854 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:29:683 (1,2) - whistle done
00:30:386 (2) - remove whistle done
00:32:636 (2) - remove whistle ^
00:32:917 (3) - remove claps/whistle ^
00:33:058 (4) - transform this into whistle ^
00:34:605 (5) - Spacing hope it is better
00:36:855 (5) - ^ ^
00:41:778 (2) - whistle ^
00:42:340 (4) - add some whistles in this slider ^
00:46:137 (5) - whistle ^
00:46:419 (6) - finish at the end ^
00:54:576 (1) - remove whistle ? yes
00:56:826 (2) - remove clap add whistle done
01:16:797 (2) - whistle ^
01:18:766 (1,2) - whistle ^
01:21:297 (2) - whistle ^
01:24:391 (4) - whistle ^
01:24:954 (1) - ^ ^
01:25:516 (1) - ^ ^
01:28:048 (6) - ^ ^
01:28:329 (1) - ^ ^
01:28:610 (2) - finish ^
01:30:298 (1) - whistle ^
01:32:830 (1) - remove finish ^
01:35:361 (3) - add whistle at start and end ^
01:37:330 (1) - whistle ^
01:37:611 (2) - whistle at start ^
01:42:112 (1),00:59:357 (1) - same as easy, remove this finish pls ^

Cranky Kong

00:13:368 (1,1) - bad spacing tried it
00:10:415 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - try to don't use whistle everywhere ^
00:14:775 (4) - remove clap done
00:15:900 (4) - ^ ^
00:17:822 (3) - this slider is wrong, make it going on blue mark ok
00:20:072 (3) - ^ ^
00:22:322 (3) - ^ ^
00:16:603 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - put some hitsound, just whistles please ^
00:25:323 (1,2,3,4,5) - transform this claps into whistles please ^
00:30:526 (3) - too much whistles in this slider ^
00:31:089 (4) - whistle ^
00:34:605 (8) - whistle at the start / end ^
00:36:855 (2) - ^ ^
00:39:105 (6,1,2,3) - put some whistles, not everywhere please tried it
00:41:356 (5,1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
00:43:325 (1) - it's missing a whistle done
00:45:294 (2) - whistle ^
00:46:841 (8) - whistle at the start, the end you decide start yes end no
00:49:091 (6) - whistle at the end done
00:49:653 (1) - remove whistle ^
00:50:638 (2) - whistle ^
00:51:341 (5) - ^ ^
00:51:622 (1,2) - put whistles at the end of the sliders ^
00:52:607 (2) - whistle at the end ^
00:57:529 (2) - whistle ^
00:58:092 (5) - ^ ^
00:58:514 (7) - ^ ^
00:59:357 (1) - blue mark why because it was the starting point in an earlier version ... forgot to delete it
01:07:936 (1) - this must finish at 01:08:358 done
01:09:202 (2) - whistle ^
01:10:609 (3) - whistle start and end ^
01:11:734 (1,2,3) - whistle at the sliders end 1,2: yes 3:no
01:13:140 (3,4,5) - ^ done
01:14:546 (1,2) - whistle ^
01:15:109 (3) - whistle at start and end ^
01:16:515 (1,3,1,2) - whistle, whistle, remove clap, whistle at the start end end ^
01:18:766 (1) - whistle ^
01:19:609 (1) - whistle at start/end ^
01:21:016 (1) - whistle ^
01:21:860 (3) - whistle ^
01:22:141 (1,2,3,4) - whistle at the sliders end ^
01:24:391 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
01:25:516 (1) - ^ ^
01:25:798 (2) - whistle ^
01:26:360 (3) - whistle at start and end ^
01:28:610 (2) - ^ ^
01:28:329 (1) - whistle ^
01:30:861 (3) - whistle at start and end ^
01:33:111 (2) - ^ ^
01:35:361 (3) - take this noise out of the slider, just put whistle on the start and end ^
01:39:299 (1) - whistle ^
01:40:143 (1) - put some whistles ^
01:42:112 (1), 00:59:357 (1) - same as easy ^

this was a hitsound mod lol, pm me in-game if you need help :p
i can help you with some patterns I will do that .. maybe :D
Ty soooo much <3 for modding this map :D I know it has its flaws especially with hitsounds . So ty for this mod
Kyshiro
As requested in my queue I modded your map.

Kiddy Kong
v______________________________________________v

-Not sure if the first 3 beats were placed like this on purpose.
If not, I suggest the following:
-00:09:854 (1) - place it it x:176 y:64
-00:12:103 (2) - ^ x:336 y:64
-00:14:353 (3) - ^ x:256 y:200
(Distance stays the same)

-00:10:978 Add beat
-00:13:228 ^
-00:15:478 ^
-01:08:358 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 2 square to the left using Small grid.
^______________________________________________^

Diddy Kong
v______________________________________________v

-00:29:542 Add beat
-00:47:544 ^
-00:54:013 ^
-00:56:123 ^ Used Beat Snap Divisor 1/4 for this.
^______________________________________________^

Donkey Kong
v______________________________________________v

-00:23:354 Add beat
-00:23:916 ^
-00:24:479 ^
-00:29:542 ^
-00:44:872 ^
-00:51:060 ^ on top of (6)
^______________________________________________^

Cranky Kong
v______________________________________________v

-Suggestion:
Replace 00:16:603 (1,2,3) - with http://up.ppy.sh/files/bomber.png
-00:18:853 ^
-00:21:104 ^
--------------
-00:36:152 (2) - Delete beat
-00:38:684 Add beat
-01:27:485 ^
-01:27:767 ^
-01:28:048 ^
-01:29:735 ^
-01:30:017 ^
-01:31:986 ^
-01:32:267 ^
-01:32:548 ^
^______________________________________________^

Any questions? Contact me in game :3

~Kyshiro
Topic Starter
bomber34

Kyshiro wrote:

As requested in my queue I modded your map.

Kiddy Kong
v______________________________________________v

-Not sure if the first 3 beats were placed like this on purpose.
If not, I suggest the following:
-00:09:854 (1) - place it it x:176 y:64 done
-00:12:103 (2) - ^ x:336 y:64 done
-00:14:353 (3) - ^ x:256 y:200 done
(Distance stays the same)

-00:10:978 Add beat sry, it feels strange and doesn't fit really
-00:13:228 ^ sry, it feels strange and doesn't fit really
-00:15:478 ^ sry, it feels strange and doesn't fit really
-01:08:358 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 2 square to the left using Small grid. ???
^______________________________________________^

Diddy Kong
v______________________________________________v

-00:29:542 Add beat I know there is a lot of space but i think it doesn't fit there
-00:47:544 ^ Hope spacing is ok now :3
-00:54:013 ^ it doesn't fit there :( for me
-00:56:123 ^ Used Beat Snap Divisor 1/4 for this. ^
^______________________________________________^

Donkey Kong
v______________________________________________v

-00:23:354 Add beat no i don't think this fits
-00:23:916 ^ ^
-00:24:479 ^ ^
-00:29:542 ^ much better now :D
-00:44:872 ^ I did this but i got problems with spacing and such now D: i hope it is good as it is
-00:51:060 ^ on top of (6) much better :D
^______________________________________________^

Cranky Kong
v______________________________________________v

-Suggestion:
Replace 00:16:603 (1,2,3) - with http://up.ppy.sh/files/bomber.png I don't think so, it starts with the BOOM on the white tick
-00:18:853 ^ it fits here
-00:21:104 ^ See the first replace point
--------------
-00:36:152 (2) - Delete beat no,I think it fits into the rythm BUT if other people also say this suck i do this :3
-00:38:684 Add beat done
-01:27:485 ^ ^
-01:27:767 ^ ^
-01:28:048 ^ ^
-01:29:735 ^ ^
-01:30:017 ^ ^
-01:31:986 ^ ^
-01:32:267 ^ ^
-01:32:548 ^ ^
^______________________________________________^

Any questions? Contact me in game :3

~Kyshiro
thank you very much :D
Shohei Ohtani
Hopefully these amazingly long posts have taken care of the dirty work for me~.

Crank dat ass:
I dunno, the patterns seem hard to follow in the beginning. I'd rather not map that or something~.
Sliderstreams are not moe! Especially when there's a bunch of repeats~.
00:13:650 (1) - This spacing is the same as the previous one, but the timing is different o-o. People will be all "wtf mang"
00:34:605 (8) - Not moe! I'd suggest taking a look at RJ's slider making guide to make moe sliders~.
00:46:841 (8) - ^
01:40:143 (1) - Kind of a boring pattern D:

DAWNKEH:
I kinda like this better then your insane
00:16:603 (1,2,3) - Boring, especially for a hard mode!~.
00:57:389 (1) - ^

DIDDEH:
00:23:353 (2) - Not moe! D:
00:57:389 (4) - Make more sliders like this

KIDDEH:
A bit empty but it's ok.

Yay.
Crimmi
Modding, CrimmiStyle!!

Mod Cross-Examination Time!!

[General]

Sadly the rules say that you must have a mp3 worth 128 kbps your current mp3 is 126, I or someone else can provide a better one if you want.
This BG is a bit, unattractive don't you think?
Even though "Eveline Fisher" is one of the composers, i think that "David Wise" is the main composer forthe DKC songs in general, so put "David Wise" as your Artist, and the latter in the tags.
There isn't any need for all those unused bookmarks, is there?
Remove the Countdown from all difficulties, since you some that are slow and some that are off, and plus it doesn't fit anyways.


[Kiddy Kong???] <- I think this difficulty name needs to be changed due that Kiddy isn't supposed to appear for a next 2 other DKC's. O.o

00:16:603 (1) - Remove Whistle from slider path. And it could be better placed like this : http://puu.sh/cUKd
00:48:107 (1) - Remove whistle from the slider path.
00:50:076 (3,4) - Spacing.
00:52:326 (1,2,3) - This could be better placed like this: http://puu.sh/cUNM
00:57:107 (3) - New Combo?
00:57:389 (1) - Remove New Combo.
01:10:046 (3) - Align with (1). And this would be the end result: http://puu.sh/cUPf
01:11:452 (6) - Align with (2).
01:15:953 (1) - Remove New Combo.
01:23:266 (1) - Remove Finish, and add Whistle.
01:24:110 (4) - Add Finish.
01:28:329 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:31:704 (1) - New Combo.
01:37:330 (4) - Push it forward to 01:37:611 and add a note to the previous time i mentioned.

[Diddy Kong]

00:16:603 (1) - Align with (4).
00:21:104 (1) - looks better like this: http://puu.sh/cUTO
00:23:354 (2) - Looks better like this: http://puu.sh/cUUf and that requires moving (1,2,3,4,5) at 00:25:604.
00:25:604 (1) - Add finish.
00:26:729 (5) - Remove Finish.
00:28:417 (5) - Remove Finish from slider end.
00:30:667 (3) - Remove Whistle from slider path & Remove Finish from slider's end.
00:33:761 (1,2,3,4) - Flip this Horozontally. (CTRL+H)
00:40:512 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try this pattern - http://puu.sh/cUXa that requires moving (1,2,3,4,5) at 00:43:606 somewhere else.
00:45:294 (1) - Remove finish, and add it to the slider end.
00:46:137 (2,3,4,5) - Spacing.
00:48:106 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing, and remove finish from (5).
00:49:794 (1,2,3) - Spacing problem here too.
01:10:046 (1,2,3) - Spacing.
01:11:452 (4) ^- Same here, sir.
01:21:016 (1,2,3,4) -Fix this spacing please D:
01:23:266 (1,2,3,4) -^

[Donkey Kong]

00:23:635 (2,3,4) - Remove finishes, and add Whistles.
00:25:604 (3) - Add Finish.
00:27:573 (3) - Remove Finish and add Whistle.
00:27:854 (1) - Add Finish and Remove Whistle.
00:59:217 (14) - Remove this note, it doesn't fit.
01:21:297 (2,3,4,5) - Spacing.
01:26:079 (1,2,3) - ^

[Cranky Kong]

00:16:603 (1) - Better looked like this: http://puu.sh/cV5h
00:46:559 (7) - Remove Finish.


This map needs some major improvement, get out of that 2008-ish feel and look at some maps for some ideas and inspiration!!

Good luck!!!
Topic Starter
bomber34

Crimmi wrote:

Modding, CrimmiStyle!!

Mod Cross-Examination Time!!

[General]

Sadly the rules say that you must have a mp3 worth 128 kbps your current mp3 is 126, I or someone else can provide a better one if you want. FUUUUU .... so close but yet so far ^^ I will ask you ingame if you can help me :)
This BG is a bit, unattractive don't you think? I couldn't find a good one for this map ... the DKC title screen doesn't fit and my tries to do screenshots myself ended with even more complaining D:
Even though "Eveline Fisher" is one of the composers, i think that "David Wise" is the main composer forthe DKC songs in general, so put "David Wise" as your Artist, and the latter in the tags. I disagree, Eveline Fischer did this certain song so she should get the honor but i added david wise to the tags. Btw Eveline did Simian Segue, Candy's Love Song, Voices of the Temple, Forest Frenzy, Tree Top Rock, Northern Hemispheres and Ice Cave Chant. 7 songs out of 20 (?), and 1 song was done by Robin Beanland and the rest was wise's work. So I would say she did not make less songs for this game.
There isn't any need for all those unused bookmarks, is there? well, I am a mapping newbie and i used them to do the slider ends ^^ but after some offset changes they are a little weird now, i admit that.
Remove the Countdown from all difficulties, since you some that are slow and some that are off, and plus it doesn't fit anyways. Surprisingly this was recommended by other people. I did it because i was not sure.


[Kiddy Kong???] <- I think this difficulty name needs to be changed due that Kiddy isn't supposed to appear for a next 2 other DKC's. O.o

00:16:603 (1) - Remove Whistle from slider path. And it could be better placed like this : http://puu.sh/cUKd thx for the screenshot :D it helped me alot.
00:48:107 (1) - Remove whistle from the slider path. I removed all noisy whislte sounds on all sliders on all maps
00:50:076 (3,4) - Spacing. done
00:52:326 (1,2,3) - This could be better placed like this: http://puu.sh/cUNM done
00:57:107 (3) - New Combo? done
00:57:389 (1) - Remove New Combo. ^
01:10:046 (3) - Align with (1). And this would be the end result: http://puu.sh/cUPf yes
01:11:452 (6) - Align with (2). yes
01:15:953 (1) - Remove New Combo. ok
01:23:266 (1) - Remove Finish, and add Whistle. ok
01:24:110 (4) - Add Finish. ok
01:28:329 (1) - Remove new combo. ^
01:31:704 (1) - New Combo. ^
01:37:330 (4) - Push it forward to 01:37:611 and add a note to the previous time i mentioned. sounds much better now

[Diddy Kong]

00:16:603 (1) - Align with (4). [/color]
00:21:104 (1) - looks better like this: http://puu.sh/cUTO well i couldn't see much ... i hope it is like you wanted it. But i am afraid that i have a big gap between 1,2 (16:603)
00:23:354 (2) - Looks better like this: http://puu.sh/cUUf and that requires moving (1,2,3,4,5) at 00:25:604. Why does this require moving those? I did them a little farther away but still
00:25:604 (1) - Add finish. ok
00:26:729 (5) - Remove Finish. ok
00:28:417 (5) - Remove Finish from slider end. ok
00:30:667 (3) - Remove Whistle from slider path & Remove Finish from slider's end. ok
00:33:761 (1,2,3,4) - Flip this Horozontally. (CTRL+H) I'm afraid that the next combo looks a little wierd.
00:40:512 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try this pattern - http://puu.sh/cUXa that requires moving (1,2,3,4,5) at 00:43:606 somewhere else. much better
00:45:294 (1) - Remove finish, and add it to the slider end. ok
00:46:137 (2,3,4,5) - Spacing. ok
00:48:106 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing, and remove finish from (5). ok
00:49:794 (1,2,3) - Spacing problem here too. I did the rest of the spacing problems on this diff.
01:10:046 (1,2,3) - Spacing.
01:11:452 (4) ^- Same here, sir.
01:21:016 (1,2,3,4) -Fix this spacing please D:
01:23:266 (1,2,3,4) -^

[Donkey Kong]

00:23:635 (2,3,4) - Remove finishes, and add Whistles. ok
00:25:604 (3) - Add Finish. no, it may fit if you play it with 25% speed but with 100% it sounds terrible.
00:27:573 (3) - Remove Finish and add Whistle.ok
00:27:854 (1) - Add Finish and Remove Whistle. no this doesn't fit for me.
00:59:217 (14) - Remove this note, it doesn't fit. Well i thought it fits but i don't see a problem removing it.
01:21:297 (2,3,4,5) - Spacing. done
01:26:079 (1,2,3) - ^ done

[Cranky Kong]

00:16:603 (1) - Better looked like this: http://puu.sh/cV5h yes it does
00:46:559 (7) - Remove Finish. ok


This map needs some major improvement, get out of that 2008-ish feel and look at some maps for some ideas and inspiration!!
I could write many things about this point but i won't.

Good luck!!! THX :D
Crimmi

bomber34 wrote:

I disagree, Eveline Fischer did this certain song so she should get the honor but i added david wise to the tags. Btw Eveline did Simian Segue, Candy's Love Song, Voices of the Temple, Forest Frenzy, Tree Top Rock, Northern Hemispheres and Ice Cave Chant. 7 songs out of 20 (?), and 1 song was done by Robin Beanland and the rest was wise's work. So I would say she did not make less songs for this game.
Ahh, i guess i'm corrected then, nice DKC knowledge!!

bomber34 wrote:

I couldn't find a good one for this map ... the DKC title screen doesn't fit and my tries to do screenshots myself ended with even more complaining D:
Don't fret i have an emulator, and photoshop that can be arranged.

bomber34 wrote:

well, I am a mapping newbie and i used them to do the slider ends ^^ but after some offset changes they are a little weird now, i admit that.
As do i, as do i :D

And about the [Kiddy Kong] difficulty name, you can change it to [Candy Kong] or [Funky Kong].

EDIT:
Topic Starter
bomber34

Crimmi wrote:

Ahh, i guess i'm corrected then, nice DKC knowledge!! I know that from SupraDarky and Wikipedia xD

Don't fret i have an emulator, and photoshop that can be arranged. thx for the picture but wtf happened to the Background?
Maybe Emulator problems? because even my is a little glitchy on the left side!?


bomber34 wrote:

well, I am a mapping newbie and i used them to do the slider ends ^^ but after some offset changes they are a little weird now, i admit that.
As do i, as do i :D


And about the [Kiddy Kong] difficulty name, you can change it to [Candy Kong] or [Funky Kong]. I guess i would take Candy ^^ because it is a sweet little song and not that funky as for the diff. itself ;)



I tried to do get the same spot ...
As for the Beatmap :) give me time. I'm still learning things and even though it seems horrible now it doesn't mean i cannot change it. I have my problems but i have the motivation to change that ^^
Topic Starter
bomber34
I deleted the diff. "Cranky Kong" because i am not happy with this. It is not that hard but there no rythm whatsoever ... it was just bad. Maybe i find someone to make me a guest diff. but i cannot make a insane diff. with this strange rythm.

Next step: Changing Audio file ... just hope i do it right ^^ btw: thx to Crimmi for the new audio
SilverDragon
IRC mod:
offset: 9547 and bpm: 106,625
- help at some patterns on "Donkey Kong" diff.

EDIT: Fixed the BPM and offset.
Topic Starter
bomber34

SilverDragon wrote:

IRC mod:
offset: 9547 and bpm: 106,625
- help at some patterns on "Donkey Kong" diff.
thx :D
Lanttu
You keep changing spacing in all diffs quite much. It was pretty confusing at few points, specially in the two easier diffs. >:

[Donkey Kong]
The long streams feel a bit off to me, since the map is not that hard otherwise.
00:11:798 (5) - New combo, 00:14:049 (9) - New combo, 00:15:174 (1) - remove new combo would fit the music better.
00:25:725 (9) - Use about 1,2x or 1,3x spacing here so it fits the next combo better. Also, maybe add new combo here and delete the next new combo?
00:27:554 (5,6) - A bit nazi, but the curve would be symmetrical if you moved both these two grids right. :3
00:27:976 (7) - Move about three grids left so it doesn't overlap with previous notes so much.
00:30:226 (5) - Also, maybe new combo here and delete the next new combo?
00:28:820 (3) - This doesn't seen to follow any sound to me, moving it to the next red tick would sound better to me.
00:32:899 (1) - Looks fine in the editor, but move this about three grids up to avoid overlap with the next three notes in the play-mode.
00:37:401 (6) - Maaaybe new combo here?
00:30:226 (5) - This spacing here. ;_; Move these closer to the previous slider.
01:07:085 (1) - This is the only time in this map when 1/8 is used, feels a bit weird. 1/4 slider repeating 3 times would fit better in my opinion.

[Diddy Kong]
00:11:235 (1) - Remove new combo and add it to next note
00:13:486 (1) - ^
00:24:740 (1,2,3,4,5) - Flip this combo horizontal

[Candy Kong
00:44:435 (2) - Now, this spacing is the same as in 00:49:218 (3) - for example. Maybe something like this? http://puu.sh/h1z5
00:47:249 (1) - Add finish to beginning
00:53:720 (1,2) - I wish this combo didn't overlap so much with the previous combo. There's lots of empty space in the playfield.
00:56:252 (1) - Remove new combo

I guess that's all. :3
Topic Starter
bomber34

Lanttu wrote:

You keep changing spacing in all diffs quite much. It was pretty confusing at few points, specially in the two easier diffs. >:

[Donkey Kong]
The long streams feel a bit off to me, since the map is not that hard otherwise. well if someone else complains about this maybe but i actually like them, because they aren't hard either
00:11:798 (5) - New combo, 00:14:049 (9) - New combo, 00:15:174 (1) - remove new combo would fit the music better.you're right
00:25:725 (9) - Use about 1,2x or 1,3x spacing here so it fits the next combo better. Also, maybe add new combo here and delete the next new combo? ok i agree with both :3
00:27:554 (5,6) - A bit nazi, but the curve would be symmetrical if you moved both these two grids right. :3 I actually like nazi post as long as they want to make the map looking nicer :)
00:27:976 (7) - Move about three grids left so it doesn't overlap with previous notes so much. ok
00:30:226 (5) - Also, maybe new combo here and delete the next new combo?no, sry. I think that doesn't fit
00:28:820 (3) - This doesn't seen to follow any sound to me, moving it to the next red tick would sound better to me. ok
00:32:899 (1) - Looks fine in the editor, but move this about three grids up to avoid overlap with the next three notes in the play-mode. didn't really noticed that before :3 thx
00:37:401 (6) - Maaaybe new combo here? Actually it was like that before the update 0.o. thx
00:30:226 (5) - This spacing here. ;_; Move these closer to the previous slider. What? i don't understand there is no slider!? But i reduced the spacing there though
01:07:085 (1) - This is the only time in this map when 1/8 is used, feels a bit weird. 1/4 slider repeating 3 times would fit better in my opinion. ok

[Diddy Kong]
00:11:235 (1) - Remove new combo and add it to next note ok
00:13:486 (1) - ^ ^
00:24:740 (1,2,3,4,5) - Flip this combo horizontal ^

[Candy Kong
00:44:435 (2) - Now, this spacing is the same as in 00:49:218 (3) - for example. Maybe something like this? http://puu.sh/h1z5 tried my best :)
00:47:249 (1) - Add finish to beginning ok
00:53:720 (1,2) - I wish this combo didn't overlap so much with the previous combo. There's lots of empty space in the playfield. tried my best
00:56:252 (1) - Remove new combo ok

I guess that's all. :3
thx you so much <3
MoonShade
IRC Mod :3
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