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2012 Taiko World Cup (11th Feb ~ 1st Apr)

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lepidopodus
2 vs 2 again? This is outrageous. Currently considering certain disadvantages to teams that gave reason to 2vs2 and ascended to rounds of 16.
OnosakiHito
Ahahahaha, sorry that I'm throwing oil into water, but I told you guys don't do it without the permission of lepidopodus. And that was just minutes/1hour ago.
It's not just because one of the teams had allready a 2 vs 2 match before, the rule was broken again.
It was better to postpone the match because of such reasons. Now the teams will get a disadvantage.

Read the god damn rules and listen what the tournament-manager is saying.
anongos
It's not better to postpone the match. It's very late already and remember that this is the last week of group stage. All matches need to be finished as soon as possible to determine knockout round.
Shiro

lepidopodus wrote:

2 vs 2 again? This is outrageous. Currently considering certain disadvantages to teams that gave reason to 2vs2 and ascended to rounds of 16.
Then we get yelled at for postponing matches ? Hell no. I did what I thought was the best thing to do, feel free to kick me out or anything you think is appropriate. Both teams agreed on playing a 2v2 although Spain could have had a free win, and knowing the consequences.
And don't put things like "ask the tournament manager" if you know you can't be there all the time to decide. If you could you wouldn't have needed any referee to help you.

Sorry for trying to help and take some workload off your shoulders.
OnosakiHito
I said that allready in the chat before:
Personally I don't like it either to postpone matches, but I prefere it more as breaking the rule(3 times in a row are 2 rules broken). And this is really outrageous.
They were even yesterday nearly on the way to make a 2 vs 2 because a player was "ill" but able to be online in osu! ? lol
Sorry, but that is not pardon in my eyes. This is a fail of organization of this day staff.
(It has also nothing to do with your shedule anongos).

People were able to make there own teams, so they should know who is trustfull enough to be on every game avaible.

Edit: @Odaril: No one said this was bad, don't worry. It's just the problem that rules were broken, even after lepidopodus said how to managed such kind of stuff when he is not online.
Pheon
I deeply apologize for being the cause of this. I really tried everything I could to be there, but then it just gets messed up like that. Ugh.

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/257854 + http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/257856 + http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/257858 Those are the scores I had on the maps, even. Wouldn't have mattered on the first map, but the second and third might've made an impact. :\ first try etc. Ugh. If there is any way I could make up for it, do tell me. If not, I can understand. My sincere apologies...
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Currently doing some job with statistics. Please wait until I finish.

EDIT:
Hmm, Hope there isn't error on here.

Following Teams are proceeded to the knock-out stage cause they are 1st in their group:
Hong Kong A
Taiwan A
France
Korea A
Japan A
United States A


Following Teams are proceeded to the knock-out stage cause they are 2nd in their group:
Germany B
Japan B
Philippines
Spain
Germany A
Korea B


Following Teams are proceeded to the knock-out stage cause they are 1~4th among 3rd placed teams in each group:
United States B (4 games won, 7 games lost)
Italy-Netherlands (4 games won, 6 games lost)
Taiwan B (4 games won, 6 games lost)
China (4 games won, 6 games lost)

Following Teams failed to get proceeded to the knock-out stage cause they are 5~6th among 3rd placed teams in each group:
Macau (3 games won, 8 games lost)
Hong Kong B (3 games won, 7 games lost)

All of 3rd placed teams won 1 match and lose 2 matches, so teams having bigger {(the number of games won) - (the number of games defeated)} got ascended.

Following Teams failed to get proceeded to the knock-out stage cause they are 4th in their group:
Poland
Canada
Chile
Austria
Brazil
Malaysia


Not in a specific order.

If you found any error or if you have any kind of objections, please tell me until 6th of March UTC, unless this can't be reverted.
KanaRin
hmm.. maybe we should have 5 players in each team to avoid 2 vs 2.
I mean the next TWC.

Just suggestion..
OnosakiHito
So it would be now possible that Germany A plays agains Germany B? lol
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
@^: In very specific situations, yes, but I'll make the possibility minimum.

EDIT:
I finished drawings. Loctav will make image of bracket.

EDIT2:
Check out 'Knock-out Stage: Overview' from Statistics page. You can see how this round goes. Ask me if you don't understand or if there is any problem/error on it.

EDIT3:
From our rules - "2 vs 2 match is available only in the Group stage"
No more 2 vs 2 match is available.
Backfire
Yusss...We made it ;u;
Shiro
Excuse me. How can a ratio between two positive numbers be negative ?
Loctav
I'll recheck and fix all stats, do the overview and broadcast mappack in a few hours. Please be patient, still at work.
Congratulations to everyone who proceeded.

Keep in mind, that you need to win 4 games to win the match, unless the group stage (where you only needed 3 wins)

EDIT:

Graphical overview for knockout stage added
Mappack for Round 2 announced. Please refer to the corresponding post.
anongos
Schedule for week 5:
SPOILER


These schedules are outdated.
Previous changes:
switched Loctav and Odaril's match assignment.
EDIT:

Changes: Spain and Germany B's match has been moved to 10 March 10:00 UTC and Korea A and China's match has been moved to 11 March 07:00 UTC
Each time slot has been expanded by 30 minutes.
MMzz

lepidopodus wrote:

2 vs 2 again? This is outrageous. Currently considering certain disadvantages to teams that gave reason to 2vs2 and ascended to rounds of 16.

Just a question, what is so bad about 2v2 anyways?
anongos
New schedule:

Changes:
GR B/ES match moved to 11:00 UTC. PH/HK A match moved to 09:30 UTC.
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
@MMzz: Simple. If you have a 4 different digits and you need to make higher average with certain number of those digits, which way is easier? 2, or 3? Especially you have 2 big digits and 2 small digits...

The basis is 3 vs 3 and 2 vs 2 is variant. At least there isn't any guys made open complaint, but what if some players think they got disadvantages due to this variant form of match? The most fair situation is giving exact same settings for every matches, and variant such as 2 vs 2 isn't good for that.

EDIT:
A bit fix of rules and match instruction. From semi-final round you need to win 5 games first. (Previously if was only for final round.)
(Not affect to this round, of course.)
AngelusMist
OMG :O
HongKong :O :O :O :O
PRO. T^T
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Uh, wait loctav, didn't you mean inner Oni of seirogan instead of Oni? Oni had some kind of critical issue so there is TWC ver., but inner oni was ok so there was no need to have TWC ver., that is why there isn't TWC ver. in inner oni.
Loctav

lepidopodus wrote:

Uh, wait loctav, didn't you mean inner Oni of seirogan instead of Oni? Oni had some kind of critical issue so there is TWC ver., but inner oni was ok so there was no need to have TWC ver., that is why there isn't TWC ver. in inner oni.
Oh yes. Inner Oni. I'll fix this. Lol. Sorry
matthewhln
TWC Round 1-4

Hong Kong B vs Taiwan A:
http://www.justin.tv/matthewhln/b/310447120 (10:15 - 28:33)

Germany B vs Poland:
http://www.justin.tv/matthewhln/b/310451560 (10:20 - 28:46)

Japan A vs Taiwan B:
http://www.justin.tv/matthewhln/b/310454548 (16:07 - 27:55)

Chile vs Philippines:
http://www.justin.tv/matthewhln/b/310461102 (14:02 - 31:11)

France vs Unite States B:
http://zh-tw.justin.tv/matthewhln/b/310498887 (05:51 - 31:10) (First game warm up)

Chinese vs Korea B:
http://www.justin.tv/matthewhln/b/310542952 (03:43 - end)

Canada vs Japan B:
http://www.justin.tv/matthewhln/b/310549182 (06:26 - end)

Austria vs Korea A:
http://www.justin.tv/matthewhln/b/310564140 (04:55 - 17:28)

Italy-Netherlands vs Spain:
http://www.justin.tv/matthewhln/b/310579352 (18:31 - 35:12) (First game warm up) (CARRI should be charly kempachi)


Last week:
viewtopic.php?f=55&t=66910&p=1353089#p1353089
viewtopic.php?f=55&t=66910&p=1356136#p1356136

PS: Sorry for the serious lag in some of the match

EDIT(2012-3-6) : Added France vs US B
charly kempachi
Omg, I have to make a comment. It isn't really important, but in the match between Spain and Italy-Netherlands CARRI didn't play. Indeed, it was me xD
I've seen in the video that his name was showed instead of mine. I think it may be a kind of bug, and I like to make a clarification xD
matthewhln

charly kempachi wrote:

Omg, I have to make a comment. It isn't really important, but in the match between Spain and Italy-Netherlands CARRI didn't play. Indeed, it was me xD
I've seen in the video that his name was showed instead of mine. I think it may be a kind of bug, and I like to make a clarification xD
I am sorry orz
Locher
Well, it's kinda hard to watch on 50' television with my whole family but the lag can't be helped, thanks for the service nevertheless!^^'''''

Edit: Last match , Poland against GermanB, players were Xayphon and BrokenArrow, Slih had a pause in Atoguru ;P
MMzz

lepidopodus wrote:

Uh, wait loctav, didn't you mean inner Oni of seirogan instead of Oni? Oni had some kind of critical issue so there is TWC ver., but inner oni was ok so there was no need to have TWC ver., that is why there isn't TWC ver. in inner oni.
Why can't we play the real version of seirogan.
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
@^: You mean the one from Taikojiro or something?
MMzz

lepidopodus wrote:

@^: You mean the one from Taikojiro or something?
Yes, the original Hell Oni from taikojiro, Not like your's isn't fun.
I just think the original would make more sense, plus it's harder :3
matthewhln

Locher wrote:

Well, it's kinda hard to watch on 50' television with my whole family but the lag can't be helped, thanks for the service nevertheless!^^'''''

Edit: Last match , Poland against GermanB, players were Xayphon and BrokenArrow, Slih had a pause in Atoguru ;P
I believe I did nothing wrong on that game expect I haven't type his name in upper letter ;p
wmfchris


rocks.
Xay
Nice video :3
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
I still didn't decide which profile badge to give #1 team lololol

Kinomicandy's:


MMzz's:


Loctav's:


Which one do you prefer, or is there anything new suggestions about profile badge?
Firce777

lepidopodus wrote:

I still didn't decide which profile badge to give #1 team lololol

Kinomicandy's:


MMzz's:


Loctav's:


Which one do you prefer, or is there anything new suggestions about profile badge?
i like MMzz's =w=
Slih
loctavs banner ftw
Sander-Don
MMzz's, because it looks similar to the first badge.
NeoRainier

Slih wrote:

loctavs banner ftw
maybe we need a side poll?
matthewhln
I like Loctav's one
Kinomicandy's is cool too
MMzz's one is not bad, but I simply don't like kat enough lol
Sander-Don

matthewhln wrote:

I simply don't like kat enough lol
He's used to it xD
MMzz
I thought you were gonna use mine? lol
Seems logical, and next year I can make a mekadon one : D (and then mekakatsu)
KinomiCandy

Sander-Don wrote:

MMzz's, because it looks similar to the first badge.
yah

2 min of creative work i did
anongos
Katsu is treated like Luigi... I like Katsu.
Sadface.jpg

And yeah, I prefer MMzz's because it matches the first badge.
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