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KOTOKO - Cream+Mint [Taiko]

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kanpakyin
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2012年9月5日 at 15:11:54

Artist: KOTOKO
Title: Cream+Mint
Source: Chocolat ~Maid Cafe "Curio"~
Tags: i've sound Taiko
BPM: 124
Filesize: 2762kb
Play Time: 01:44
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (3.15 stars, 206 notes)
  2. Inner Oni (4.83 stars, 463 notes)
  3. Kantan (1.4 stars, 141 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (4.29 stars, 289 notes)
  5. Oni (4.63 stars, 380 notes)
Download: KOTOKO - Cream+Mint
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Let do this! All done.
lepidopodus
[General]
- Check difficulty setting. You don't need to set everything to 5 for every diff.
- More lead-in would be better except Easy, I usually recommend to have at least 4-beat-long lead-in.
- Kiai until 01:38:350?

[Easy]
- Generally too hard for Easy. (Even for hard ones it is rare for Easys to have over 4.00 star in osu.) Currently there are too many 1/2 patterns with don/kat alterations. Make them to minimum first. (It is hard to see such patterns in Easy, actually.)
- Also, try use less don/kat alterations even it is 1/1 patterns.
- I usually recommend to have minimum 1.5-beat-long gap between drum roll/spinner and the next note in Kantan since switching between them is quite hard for beginners.

[Normal]
- Generally too hard for Normal. Remove Every 1/4 triplets unless you really want to make this very hard.
- Some 1/2 patterns are too long. Crop them.
- This also has too many don/kat alterations for being Normal, to be honest.

[Hard]
- This is more close to be easy Oni... Some 1/4 streams are too long and you mixed to many patterns that is considered as very hard or exceptional. Usually we use single-coloured patterns like ddd or kkk or something like that for 1/4 patterns in Hard, and some ddk or kkd, which is easiest among 3-note-long 1/4 patterns with d/k alterations. (Of course there is some exceptional cases.)

[Oni]
- Still some sudden big notes... Too many big notes lowers effectiveness of good and impressive big notes like 01:03:511 (63,64,65), so use them carefully.

00:15:366 (52,53) - You can make this to 1/4 triplet, if you want.
00:16:334 (56,57,58,59) - Maybe 1/4 streams like 00:00:850 and 00:08:592, but of course you need to be careful about 00:17:059 (59).
00:22:866 (86) - I don't see any sound nor composition correspond to this big note, to be honest.
00:28:672 (117) - Similar reason with above but if you really want to stress out vocal here, then whatever.
00:31:334 (125,126,127,128,129,130) - I prefer 5-note-long pattern in 00:31:334 (125) than 126, cause that is more closer to background drum sound.
00:40:285 (161) / 00:51:898 (8) - Not so good big note for this calm part.
00:57:705 ~ 01:01:575 - Consider 'pairing' between this and 00:49:963 ~ 00:53:834, since music goes similar. (I don't mean using exactly same patterns. Just add some variations based on 00:49:963 ~ 00:53:834, or at least using matched beats, etc.)
01:13:551 (1,2) / 01:21:293 (40,41) - I guess it would better to spare 2-note-long patterns for 2nd & 3rd measures in every 4 measures, as you did in 01:07:382 & 01:09:317.
01:17:059 (20) - Not so good big note using, you didn't used big notes in this kiai part before and this isn't the part with that big 'impressiveness'.
01:20:930 (39) - don?
01:28:672 (79) - Well at least here isn't that weak not to be stressed but still, you didn't put big notes in similar part like 01:05:446 / 01:13:188 / 01:20:930 and due to this, currently 01:28:672 (79) stands out too much.
01:35:205 (110,111,112) - You can put 5-note-long 1/4 pattern here if you want.
01:36:414 ~ 01:38:350 - This measure is an extension of 01:34:479 ~ 01:36:414. Try using 'k d k d' kind of pattern as you did in previous measure.
01:37:624 (119,120,121,122) - Also you can use streams like 00:00:850 here.

For difficulty adjustments, to be honest all I can see is readjustment of density of notes.
I think currently Easy ~ Hard is too radical to go for pattern-specific. I can check Easy ~ Hard once more when some adjustments are done, but you might not want that since more of my mods are never helpful to ranking progress.
Topic Starter
kanpakyin

lepidopodus wrote:

[Oni]
- Still some sudden big notes... Too many big notes lowers effectiveness of good and impressive big notes like 01:03:511 (63,64,65), so use them carefully.
//why? I just put these big notes on accent, I think they are impressive and these big notes can make the accent more prominent, so why not?

00:15:366 (52,53) - You can make this to 1/4 triplet, if you want. //sounds cool.
00:16:334 (56,57,58,59) - Maybe 1/4 streams like 00:00:850 and 00:08:592, but of course you need to be careful about 00:17:059 (59). //k.
00:22:866 (86) - I don't see any sound nor composition correspond to this big note, to be honest. //k, removed this.
00:28:672 (117) - Similar reason with above but if you really want to stress out vocal here, then whatever. //big kat is okay here with the high pitch vocal.
00:31:334 (125,126,127,128,129,130) - I prefer 5-note-long pattern in 00:31:334 (125) than 126, cause that is more closer to background drum sound.//k.
00:40:285 (161) / 00:51:898 (8) - Not so good big note for this calm part. //k.
00:57:705 ~ 01:01:575 - Consider 'pairing' between this and 00:49:963 ~ 00:53:834, since music goes similar. (I don't mean using exactly same patterns. Just add some variations based on 00:49:963 ~ 00:53:834, or at least using matched beats, etc.) //did some adjustment.
01:13:551 (1,2) / 01:21:293 (40,41) - I guess it would better to spare 2-note-long patterns for 2nd & 3rd measures in every 4 measures, as you did in 01:07:382 & 01:09:317. //not going to do this.
01:17:059 (20) - Not so good big note using, you didn't used big notes in this kiai part before and this isn't the part with that big 'impressiveness'. //change it to big kat, the intention of using big note here is going to emphasize the vocal.
01:20:930 (39) - don?
01:28:672 (79) - Well at least here isn't that weak not to be stressed but still, you didn't put big notes in similar part like 01:05:446 / 01:13:188 / 01:20:930 and due to this, currently 01:28:672 (79) stands out too much. //removed.
01:35:205 (110,111,112) - You can put 5-note-long 1/4 pattern here if you want.//sure, why not?
01:36:414 ~ 01:38:350 - This measure is an extension of 01:34:479 ~ 01:36:414. Try using 'k d k d' kind of pattern as you did in previous measure. //not sure about this. I will decide it later.
01:37:624 (119,120,121,122) - Also you can use streams like 00:00:850 here. //k.
Rename the difficulties.
aabc271
As requested by kpy, I'm coming for a Taiko mod ~
Let's go :3

Blue~ Critical issues. You must fix this
Purple~ It's better to fix this
Pink~ Suggestions / thoughts only. Change only if you want to

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[General]

You probably want a better quality MP3. Currently it's too quiet and the drums aren't significant enough ~

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[Oni]

It'll be better if you can make a specific part that follows drum / vocal only. Currently it's like random mixes of the 2 as there's no such distinct parts except the 2nd-half of kiai, making some hitsounds unfit imo. See "Suggested patterns" for details ~

Suggested patterns
Suggestions only. Change them only if you want to ~

( I wonder if you're trying to follow drums in some ways, but imo they're followed in rather random moments. So I'll mod these with pitch as a higher priority
You may ignore any of them if your original purpose is to follow drums at a specific timing, but make sure they fit the overall feeling of the map )

00:19:600 ( 75, 76 ) - oo ? ( You can hear that the vocal goes down here, so kd will fit better imo ~ )

00:26:737 ( 111 ) - Blue note ? ( This time the vocal goes up from 109, so the hitsounds of the 3-plets should go up too. dkk fits well imo )

00:29:640 ( 124 ) - ^ ( The vocal has a higher pitch than 122, 123. So k sounds better imo )

00:30:366 ( 126 ) - ^ ( 125 has a lower pitch, while 126 is same as 127 in pitch. So using k for 126 & 127 will be better )

01:08:350 ( 14 ) - ^ ( 13 has a lower pitch and 14 has a higher one. So d -> k fits well )

01:10:285 ( 23 ~ 26 ) - o ooo ? ( This fits the pitch of vocal more )

01:14:156 ( 5 ) - Blue note ? ( Rising vocal from 3 to 5, so dkk fits well )
01:21:898 ( 44 ) - ^ ( Rising vocal from 42 to 44 )

01:14:882 ( 9, 10 ) - o o ? ( 10 has a higher vocal than 9 )

01:16:092 ( 14 ~ 18 ) - ooooo / ooooo ? ( They fit the vocal better )

01:43:672 ( 140 ) - Red note ? ( 140 & 141 have a same level of music pitch, so making them both d will be better )

Overall OK, but some parts are like half-vocal + half-drum at the same time, making some hitsounds odd imo

Others seem fine :3

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[Muzukashii]

OD-1, HP-1 ? Currently you're using the same setting as Oni ~

00:08:592 ( 26 ~ 32 ) - kkkkkkd could be hard for muzu level players as it's a 7-plets and it ends with d. I suggest you deleting 29 so it becomes kkk kkd ~ ( Just like what you did at 00:00:850 ( 2 ~ 7 ) )
00:16:334 ( 53 ~ 59 ) - ^, what about deleting 58 and add finish at 59 ? ( kkkkk D )
01:35:205 ( 228 ~ 234 ) - ^, change to kkkkd k instead ?

Suggested patterns
Suggestions only. Change them only if you want to ~

00:29:640 ( 104 ~ 107 ) - o o o ? ( k d k k fits the vocal better )

00:57:705 ( 87 ) - Red note ? ( Consider that you use k for 88. Hitsound effects could be lost if 85 ~ 88 are all k. Also d at 87 fits the drum better )

01:18:995 ( 164 ) - Blue note ? ( 163 & 164 are at the same level of higher pitch, so using k for both will be better )

01:20:446 ( 172 ~ 176 ) - ooooo ? ( dkkkk sounds kind of weird to me )

01:42:221 ( 11 ~ 14 ) - K K for 11, 12, and D D for 13, 14 ? ( 11 has a similar higher pitch with 12, while 13 & 14 have same lower pitch )

Overall nice :3

Just saying that 7-plets could be too hard for muzu diffs ~

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[Futsuu]

Current beats could be a bit complex for futsuu ? Try to find some new players and see if they can hit well ?

Suggested patterns
Suggestions only. Change them only if you want to ~

00:28:672 ( 35 ) - Blue note ? ( The pitch of vocal is quite high here, so imo k fits better )

00:43:188 ( 78 ~ 80 ) - o o o ? ( Fits the vocal better )

00:44:519 ( 82 ) - Red note ? ( Pitch is similar to 83, and both are lower than 84. so d d k fits well imo )

00:46:092 ( 86 ~ 88 ) - o o o ? ( All the notes here are high at pitch, so k fits better than d )

00:56:495 ( 118 ) - Red note ? ( It has a similar low pitch with 119, so using d is better )

01:08:108 ( 150 ~ 151 ) - o o ? ( 151 has a higher vocal than 150, so d -> k fits well )
01:23:592 ( 196 ~ 197 ) - ^ ( 197 > 196 in pitch )
01:25:527 ( 202 ~ 203 ) - ^ ( 203 > 202 )

01:34:237 ( 227 ) - Blue note ? ( 227 & 228 are both at same level of high pitch. So both k fit better )

Overall nice. Just maybe a bit complex in beats ~

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[Kantan]

00:04:963 ( 6 ~ 8 ) - k d d could be hard for newbies. You probably need some testplayers. Try to use fewer 1/2s, esp those with different hitsounds. ( I won't mention this many times as there're quite a lot of 1/2s )

00:36:414 ( 4 ~ 7 ) - I'm not sure if this type of beat is too complex for newbies. Need testplayers ~ ( Also not mentioning many times )

Could be too hard for Kantan. Otherwise fine ~

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For me it's like

Kantan -> Futsuu
Futsuu -> Muzu
Muzu -> Easy Oni
Oni -> Normal Oni

But whatever. It's still acceptable I think :3


Star and good luck ~ ;)
-[ ix Ishida xi ]-
[Kantan]

00:25:527 (51,52) - d k
如果你改了 ^ 這個的話,那麼 00:26:737 (54) - 請改成 k, 00:27:705 (57,58,59,61,62) - 請改成 k d K d k
01:04:479 (73) 125 BPM 以下的黃條是 1/8 連打,Oni 或許還好,對初學者來說太快了
01:22:786 (111) - K
01:24:317 (114,115) - d K
01:35:930 (141) - d

事實上我認為以簡單來說,這似乎有點太難了。


[Futsuu]

00:01:576 (4) - D (另外,這段前奏建議將音量調小,有點太吵了..)
00:25:527 (25) - d
00:27:100 (30,31,32,33,34,35) - k d k k d k
00:51:898 (105) - k
00:56:495 (118) - d
00:57:705 (122) - D
01:04:479 (142) - 同 Kantan
01:19:721 (185) - d
01:34:237 (227) - k


[Muzukashii]

00:23:592 (79,80,81) kdk or ddk ?
00:25:527 (87) - ddk
00:26:737 (93) - k
00:27:705 (96,97) - k d
00:32:301 (114,115,116) - kdk ?
00:52:624 (164) - k
01:20:205 (171) - d


[Oni]

00:36:777 (155) - d
00:41:253 (169) - d
01:33:269 (102,103) - d k
01:36:293 (117) - d


整體來說我覺得還可以,就是 kantan 和 muzu 有點太難。
OnosakiHito
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Please reupload it again KPY.
Topic Starter
kanpakyin

aabc271 wrote:

[General]

You probably want a better quality MP3. Currently it's too quiet and the drums aren't significant enough ~ /will do it later.

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[Oni]

It'll be better if you can make a specific part that follows drum / vocal only. Currently it's like random mixes of the 2 as there's no such distinct parts except the 2nd-half of kiai, making some hitsounds unfit imo. See "Suggested patterns" for details ~

Suggested patterns
Suggestions only. Change them only if you want to ~

( I wonder if you're trying to follow drums in some ways, but imo they're followed in rather random moments. So I'll mod these with pitch as a higher priority
You may ignore any of them if your original purpose is to follow drums at a specific timing, but make sure they fit the overall feeling of the map )

00:19:600 ( 75, 76 ) - oo ? ( You can hear that the vocal goes down here, so kd will fit better imo ~ )

00:26:737 ( 111 ) - Blue note ? ( This time the vocal goes up from 109, so the hitsounds of the 3-plets should go up too. dkk fits well imo )

00:29:640 ( 124 ) - ^ ( The vocal has a higher pitch than 122, 123. So k sounds better imo )

00:30:366 ( 126 ) - ^ ( 125 has a lower pitch, while 126 is same as 127 in pitch. So using k for 126 & 127 will be better ) //sorry because it will sound weird if i change it to k.

01:08:350 ( 14 ) - ^ ( 13 has a lower pitch and 14 has a higher one. So d -> k fits well ) //I'm following the drum here so no.

01:10:285 ( 23 ~ 26 ) - o ooo ? ( This fits the pitch of vocal more ) //Change to d dkd.
01:14:156 ( 5 ) - Blue note ? ( Rising vocal from 3 to 5, so dkk fits well ) //following the drum here.
01:21:898 ( 44 ) - ^ ( Rising vocal from 42 to 44 )

01:14:882 ( 9, 10 ) - o o ? ( 10 has a higher vocal than 9 )

01:16:092 ( 14 ~ 18 ) - ooooo / ooooo ? ( They fit the vocal better ) //changed to kkddk instead.

01:43:672 ( 140 ) - Red note ? ( 140 & 141 have a same level of music pitch, so making them both d will be better )

[Muzukashii]

OD-1, HP-1 ? Currently you're using the same setting as Oni ~

00:08:592 ( 26 ~ 32 ) - kkkkkkd could be hard for muzu level players as it's a 7-plets and it ends with d. I suggest you deleting 29 so it becomes kkk kkd ~ ( Just like what you did at 00:00:850 ( 2 ~ 7 ) )
00:16:334 ( 53 ~ 59 ) - ^, what about deleting 58 and add finish at 59 ? ( kkkkk D )
01:35:205 ( 228 ~ 234 ) - ^, change to kkkkd k instead ?

Suggested patterns
Suggestions only. Change them only if you want to ~

00:29:640 ( 104 ~ 107 ) - o o o ? ( k d k k fits the vocal better ) //i'm following the drum.

00:57:705 ( 87 ) - Red note ? ( Consider that you use k for 88. Hitsound effects could be lost if 85 ~ 88 are all k. Also d at 87 fits the drum better ) //no because i don't want to do so many variation on mazu diff.

01:18:995 ( 164 ) - Blue note ? ( 163 & 164 are at the same level of higher pitch, so using k for both will be better )

01:20:446 ( 172 ~ 176 ) - ooooo ? ( dkkkk sounds kind of weird to me )

01:42:221 ( 11 ~ 14 ) - K K for 11, 12, and D D for 13, 14 ? ( 11 has a similar higher pitch with 12, while 13 & 14 have same lower pitch )

[Futsuu]

Current beats could be a bit complex for futsuu ? Try to find some new players and see if they can hit well ?

Suggested patterns
Suggestions only. Change them only if you want to ~

00:28:672 ( 35 ) - Blue note ? ( The pitch of vocal is quite high here, so imo k fits better )

00:43:188 ( 78 ~ 80 ) - o o o ? ( Fits the vocal better )

00:44:519 ( 82 ) - Red note ? ( Pitch is similar to 83, and both are lower than 84. so d d k fits well imo )

00:46:092 ( 86 ~ 88 ) - o o o ? ( All the notes here are high at pitch, so k fits better than d )

00:56:495 ( 118 ) - Red note ? ( It has a similar low pitch with 119, so using d is better ) //the pitch of this note is higher than 117 and 119, so kat would fit better.

01:08:108 ( 150 ~ 151 ) - o o ? ( 151 has a higher vocal than 150, so d -> k fits well )
01:23:592 ( 196 ~ 197 ) - ^ ( 197 > 196 in pitch )
01:25:527 ( 202 ~ 203 ) - ^ ( 203 > 202 )

01:34:237 ( 227 ) - Blue note ? ( 227 & 228 are both at same level of high pitch. So both k fit better ) //The pitch after this note is higher than this note so no.

[Kantan]

00:04:963 ( 6 ~ 8 ) - k d d could be hard for newbies. You probably need some testplayers. Try to use fewer 1/2s, esp those with different hitsounds. ( I won't mention this many times as there're quite a lot of 1/2s )

00:36:414 ( 4 ~ 7 ) - I'm not sure if this type of beat is too complex for newbies. Need testplayers ~ ( Also not mentioning many times )

Could be too hard for Kantan. Otherwise fine ~

ISHIDAMITSUNARI wrote:

[Kantan]

00:25:527 (51,52) - d k
如果你改了 ^ 這個的話,那麼 00:26:737 (54) - 請改成 k, 00:27:705 (57,58,59,61,62) - 請改成 k d K d k //不了,我這裡還是放鼓點好了~
01:04:479 (73) 125 BPM 以下的黃條是 1/8 連打,Oni 或許還好,對初學者來說太快了 //那我直接刪掉好了
01:22:786 (111) - K //不換kat, 反之我把finish刪掉
01:24:317 (114,115) - d K //^同
01:35:930 (141) - d //換了dk

[Futsuu]

00:01:576 (4) - D (另外,這段前奏建議將音量調小,有點太吵了..) //我覺得還好..
00:25:527 (25) - d
00:27:100 (30,31,32,33,34,35) - k d k k d k //好像有點怪 暫時保留
00:51:898 (105) - k //Already fixed.
00:56:495 (118) - d //no, sounds weird to me.
00:57:705 (122) - D //I don't find a reason to add a finish there.
01:04:479 (142) - 同 Kantan //fixed.
01:19:721 (185) - d
01:34:237 (227) - k //no due to high pitch.


[Muzukashii]

00:23:592 (79,80,81) kdk or ddk ? //Sound too difficult for muzu
00:25:527 (87) - ddk //^
00:26:737 (93) - k //no because i was going to follow the drum.
00:27:705 (96,97) - k d //sound weird for me.
00:32:301 (114,115,116) - kdk ? //Same as 00:23:592
00:52:624 (164) - k //no, sound weird for me.
01:20:205 (171) - d //dkkkk is much easy for muzu.


[Oni]

00:36:777 (155) - d
00:41:253 (169) - d //no sorry.It doesn't fit the music.
01:33:269 (102,103) - d k //weird for me.
01:36:293 (117) - d //d doesn't fit the music.
~Will do a full upload later.
Fixed except red words.
wmfchris
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wmfchris
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[Oni]
01:36:172 - like you've done before kdk fits the vocal variation better
01:41:979 - d to highlight the coming K?

[Muzu]
00:51:656 - k k d?
00:57:705 - kkd like you've done before
00:59:398 - k like 0:51

[Kantan]
00:13:914 - In the music it sounds similar to the last K so K here as well

In overall it follows closely to the vocal and drums, no big problem with it. When you've find a bit more mods just ask me again.
Topic Starter
kanpakyin

wmfchris wrote:

[Oni]
01:36:172 - like you've done before kdk fits the vocal variation better //but i think kkk is much better here.
01:41:979 - d to highlight the coming K? //done.

[Muzu]
00:51:656 - k k d? //I would like to follow the vocal here, so no.
00:57:705 - kkd like you've done before //k
00:59:398 - k like 0:51 //Same as 0:51.

[Kantan]
00:13:914 - In the music it sounds similar to the last K so K here as well //reasonable, done.

In overall it follows closely to the vocal and drums, no big problem with it. When you've find a bit more mods just ask me again.
spboxer3

※ 注意

紅色是unrankable的 一定要改
藍色的是需要討論的問題
黑色就只是建議

general


  • Settings
    (For the setting/general issue.)
  1. offset應該在所有的object前
  2. lead in調到1.25~1.5之間會好些 現在有點太快

Kantan



  • mapping
    (These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:17:059 (28) - D 你可以看看這段後面的part全部都是D 為何這邊是K? 感覺有些不和諧
  2. 00:42:946 (19) - 這個rhythm可能對於Easy來說較難判別 前面沒有東西可以讓人知道這是綁在1/2節奏上的 會容易讓新手confuse
  3. 00:46:817 (28) - ^
  4. 01:36:414 (140) - D 感覺會好些 因為前頭都是k 光用重音(K)感覺變化不夠明顯足以作出重音的效果
  5. 01:36:656 (1) - 對Easy來說spinner太短了 後面的節奏也接的蠻近的 不容易讓新手接到

Futsuu



  • mapping
    (These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:32:543 (46) - d較合音樂~imo
  2. 00:42:705 (76,77,78) - k d k 符合音調變化
  3. 00:46:092 (86,87,88) - k d k/k d d?
  4. 00:49:963 (99) - D 這地方音樂開始變小聲 K太響了 反而D會比較適合些
  5. 00:57:705 (122) - (關於上面) 這個看你個人感覺 其實用D或用K都OK 如果上面改了這位置就看你是要對稱或是作轉折了
  6. 01:30:608 (214) - K 對應前面part
  7. 01:36:414 (231) - 建議D

Muzukashii



  • mapping
    (These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:25:769 (87) - d合音樂
  2. 00:48:753 (48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56) - kdk kkk kkd?這只是個人建議
  3. 01:20:446 (172,173,174,175,176) - dkkkd
  4. 01:35:930 (233,234,235,236) - k kkd

Oni



  • mapping
    (These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:09:317 (34) - 由於這顆音調沒有這麼高 不適合用k 所以建議用00:08:592 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34) - kkkkdkd or kkdkdkd的類型
  2. 00:16:334 (57,58,59,60,61,62,63) - 其實這類型可以作成kdkkkkD這樣 你前面的幾個diff也有在這用finish 何不在這也用finish? 另外 我還是覺得d/D比較適合這地方
  3. 01:25:527 (62) - k合音樂
  4. 01:35:930 (115) - ^
  5. 01:36:172 (116,117,118) - 如果上方有改kdd/kkd會比較適合
~>_>個人觀感參考用 不解釋...
Good luck~
Topic Starter
kanpakyin

spboxer3 wrote:

general


  • Settings
    (For the setting/general issue.)
  1. offset應該在所有的object前
  2. lead in調到1.25~1.5之間會好些 現在有點太快
//不了,感覺現在的也可以

Kantan



  • mapping
    (These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:17:059 (28) - D 你可以看看這段後面的part全部都是D 為何這邊是K? 感覺有些不和諧 //難度問題
  2. 00:42:946 (19) - 這個rhythm可能對於Easy來說較難判別 前面沒有東西可以讓人知道這是綁在1/2節奏上的 會容易讓新手confuse //不覺得, 新手們不是以感覺來判斷位置的, 反而是看note
  3. 00:46:817 (28) - ^ //^
  4. 01:36:414 (140) - D 感覺會好些 因為前頭都是k 光用重音(K)感覺變化不夠明顯足以作出重音的效果 //高音, 所以用kat.
  5. 01:36:656 (1) - 對Easy來說spinner太短了 後面的節奏也接的蠻近的 不容易讓新手接到 //k

Futsuu



  • mapping
    (These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:32:543 (46) - d較合音樂~imo //k
  2. 00:42:705 (76,77,78) - k d k 符合音調變化 //k
  3. 00:46:092 (86,87,88) - k d k/k d d?//dkd
  4. 00:49:963 (99) - D 這地方音樂開始變小聲 K太響了 反而D會比較適合些 //考慮難度
  5. 00:57:705 (122) - (關於上面) 這個看你個人感覺 其實用D或用K都OK 如果上面改了這位置就看你是要對稱或是作轉折了 //^
  6. 01:30:608 (214) - K 對應前面part //points lepidon's post.
  7. 01:36:414 (231) - 建議D //Same

Muzukashii



  • mapping
    (These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:25:769 (87) - d合音樂 //難度問題
  2. 00:48:753 (48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56) - kdk kkk kkd?這只是個人建議 //^
  3. 01:20:446 (172,173,174,175,176) - dkkkd //^
  4. 01:35:930 (233,234,235,236) - k kkd //高音, 於是k

Oni



  • mapping
    (These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:09:317 (34) - 由於這顆音調沒有這麼高 不適合用k 所以建議用00:08:592 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34) - kkkkdkd or kkdkdkd的類型 //還是不要
  2. 00:16:334 (57,58,59,60,61,62,63) - 其實這類型可以作成kdkkkkD這樣 你前面的幾個diff也有在這用finish 何不在這也用finish? 另外 我還是覺得d/D比較適合這地方 //因為個人不喜歡在1/4加上finish.
  3. 01:25:527 (62) - k合音樂 //k
  4. 01:35:930 (115) - ^ //為了和後面做對比
  5. 01:36:172 (116,117,118) - 如果上方有改kdd/kkd會比較適合 //^
arien666
[Kantan]
00:15:124 (22) - Delete this note? dkk might be little hard even on Kantan
00:32:543 (63) - Delete this note and move 00:32:785 (1) into here
01:36:414 - Move this Kiai end into 01:38:350 . This applys to every diffs too ;___;

[Futsuu]
00:15:124 (38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46) - 9 1/2 notes might be long on Futsuu imo, try to cut :3?
01:36:414 (231) - Delete this note and move 01:36:656 (1) into here

[Muzukashii]
00:56:495 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87) - dk dk kkd might be hard even on Muzukashii, try to fix into kk kk kkd?
01:36:414 (236) - Same as Futsuu



meow :3
uranechan
aru baka is Tsundere so I think this map would be bubbled soon :p

Whatever, gonna another thing to get fun...

/me hides
Topic Starter
kanpakyin

arken1015 wrote:

[Kantan]
00:15:124 (22) - Delete this note? dkk might be little hard even on Kantan //k
00:32:543 (63) - Delete this note and move 00:32:785 (1) into here //fixing in other way.
01:36:414 - Move this Kiai end into 01:38:350 . This applys to every diffs too ;___; //okay

[Futsuu]
00:15:124 (38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46) - 9 1/2 notes might be long on Futsuu imo, try to cut :3?
01:36:414 (231) - Delete this note and move 01:36:656 (1) into here //both done.

[Muzukashii]
00:56:495 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87) - dk dk kkd might be hard even on Muzukashii, try to fix into kk kk kkd? //sure.
01:36:414 (236) - Same as Futsuu //I would rather keep this because I don't like 1/4 spinner and triplet sounds better imo.



meow :3
Thanks :3
arien666

uranechan wrote:

aru baka is Tsundere so I think this map would be bubbled soon :p

Whatever, gonna another thing to get fun...

/me hides
No you >_<



and yes right, bubbled :3
OnosakiHito
Sorry kanpakyin, I didn't know arken would bubble it today. -w-"

I have there some things you must change...

[Kantan]

- This is not a Kantan level, it's way above it. It's allready an easy Muzukashii.
I will show you why this is so

00:03:027 (3,4,5) - This pattern is allready considered as hard in a Kantan. The normal case is to use in a 1/1 the same notes. That means to use here o o o
00:01:576 (1,2) - Same as above
^ abviously I mean the other 1/1 as well.
00:16:575 (24,25,26) - 1/2 should be not used in Kantan and if so, just in really rare cases. You can use that in Futsuu
00:25:527 (39,40) - ^
00:36:414 (4,5,6,7,8) - This confuses beginners way too much. Inconsistence in spaces make them miss.
00:57:463 (55,56) - big notes shouldn't be use like that. It's better to have way more space between them and normal notes.
00:58:188 (57,58,59,60,61,62) - Futsuu/Muzukashii pattern
01:27:221 (119,120,121,122) - ^

A Kantan diff. has mostly monton 1/1 notes with less kat variation, while kiai has just some 1/2 notes. But here you have used allready muzukashii level patterns which a beginner can't deal with. Also there are too many finisher in the Kantan.


[Futsuu]

- Same problem here. Too hard for a Futsuu. That's a demanding muzukashii level.

00:27:100 (30) - 3/4 note shouldn't be used in a Futsuu.
00:36:777 (58) - ^
^ and so on
00:49:963 (99) - maybe D would fit more, because k k k k K plays a bit werid. You could use this D more times.
00:57:705 (122) - ^

A Futsuu has some more 1/1 and can have more 1/2 of course, but not in a too different pattern constalation, which isn't the case here.

[Muzukashii]

00:01:334 (5,6,7) - This pattern is considered as hard. Just saying.
00:56:737 (81,82,83,84,85,86,87) - Oh god, this is Oni level I think? Better if you make it easier.
01:04:963 (112,113,114,115,116) - five-plets are fine as long as you don't use them to often or have another note at the end.
01:12:946 (142,143,144) - I think d k is better here: 1. because of vocal and 2. because of the difficulty here
01:19:721 (167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176) - Two five-plets streams? Maybe braking here one would be not bad 01:20:809 (175) - for the sake of difficulty.

Well, there are some Oni patterns but overall it fit's to a hard Muzukashii. The BPM is slow but you need to consider how many notes you have used here. Not less notes we have there.

[Oni]

{
01:10:043 (22) - k
01:10:527 (24,25,26) - kdk
} I think this would sound better, what do you think?


Well, overall the taiko diffs are really nice and have together a decent spread to be honest.
but most problem is here really how you named them. I told you the reasons before why it can't be called Kantan or Futsuu, honestly there are way too much notes for this level. A beginner will be not able to play this kantan(especially those who have no experience in rythem games)

Before this gets unranked because some other guys are protesting or so, I would strongly suggest you to change the diff names into following way:

Kantan -> Futsuu
Futsuu -> Muzukashii
Muzukashii -> Oni (then you don't need to make the pattern easier I told you before)
Oni -> Ura Oni/Inner Oni


I will watch through it later again~
Good job with the maps~!
DarkDunskin
Hi Kanpakyin!
Here's your requested Taiko-Mod from King's Lair!
I see Ono is going to pop your bubble :<

[Kantan]
  1. 00:15:608 (23) - Delete Note
  2. 00:15:850 - Add Note + Finish.
  3. 00:16:817 (25) - Delete Note, too hard for Kantan. (EDIT: I see, Ono already said that)
  4. 00:18:995 (28) - Remove Finish.
  5. 00:28:672 (45) - Remove Finish.
  6. 01:17:059 (100) - Remove Finish.
  7. 01:18:995 (104) - ^
  8. 01:32:543 (132) - ^
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:09:317 (24) - Add Finish.
  2. 00:15:850 - Add Note + Finish.
  3. 00:32:543 (46) - Add Finish.
  4. 00:48:027 (92) - Remove Finish.
  5. 00:53:834 (110) - Remove Finish.
  6. 01:15:124 (170) - Remove Finish.
  7. 01:32:543 (220) - Remove Finish.
So, let's make Stuff in Muzukashii easier shall we?

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:01:455 (6,7) - Delete (6), add Finish on (7).
  2. 00:09:196 (29,30) - Delete (29), add Finish on (30).
  3. 00:15:850 (48) - Remiove Whistle, add Finish.
  4. 00:16:938 (54,55) - Delete (54), add Finish on (55).
  5. 00:32:422 (110,111) - Delete (110), add Finish and remove Whistle on (111).
  6. 00:49:842 (55,56) - Delete (55), add Finish on (56).
  7. 00:57:584 (85,86) - Delete (85), add Finish on (86).
  8. 01:05:325 (113,114) - Delete (113), add Finish on (114).
  9. 01:09:317 (125) - Remove Finish. Seems random.
  10. 01:13:067 (140,141) - Delete (140), add Finish on (141).
  11. 01:17:059 (154) - Remove Finish. Appears random.
  12. 01:20:809 (171,172) - Delete (171), add Finish on (172).
  13. 01:26:737 (191) - Remove Finish.
  14. 01:36:293 (230,231) - Delete (230), add Finish and remove Whistle on (231).
You should understand my Finish Pattern by now.
I'd suggest to be consistent and to use it in Oni too but thats up to you.
I won't list up everything again at that point ^^.

[Oni]
  1. 00:33:874 - Add Note, feels empty there. Maybe make a ddkkddk Stream there?
Okay this is all I can say.
Good luck and have fun mapping!
DarknessAngel
才發現這張圖...
到時一定玩玩xD (為什麼不弄OSUTK混合版T.T)
Topic Starter
kanpakyin
Thanks everyone, selfpop and fixed the spread.
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