Score reset, disable submission, but leave account access is the only logical and viable option to compensate for the sheer lack of effect any IP ban as they are useless for ISPs that don't give out static IP addresses or people bypass them with a proxy.

Second chance could technically come after a grace period of n time as an added bonus to those who have decided to be both beneficial to the community (in the form of modding maps or just generally good forum behaviour) and come to terms with their length of time being forbidden from score submissions which means they have learnt from their previous mistake.

If they do it again there is no more chances and their account is permanently blacklisted from another opportunity to become a regular user again.


^ This helps to cover quite a few areas in this option. ^

To me, being beneficial to the community doesn't make any difference if they are doing harm secretly. Instant negation of any positive in my eyes.

Disable submission surely, and it'll send a message to any other potential cheaters in the community.

Most people have a dynamic ip on multiple 255.255.0.0 range (65535*X ips), so it's useless to ban by IPs.
People with static IPs can get a new one by changing their router mac and forcing the dhcp server of their isp of giving them a new one.
Banning MAC? bypassed in 2s. Banning some sort of hardware GUID? bypassed in 2s.

There is no bypass-proof way to ban and if someone is smart enough to cheat on osu i think he's smart enough to bypass a ban.

3rd option is the best choice.

then you lock her up in the basement and never let her see another man.

The problem is that you can kick out the wife, but she always comes back, and always looks different, and you have to accept her back.

Unless you lock her up.

But they cheat. Their statistics are already enhanced.

I still don't get it, since the poll option pairs score reset with disabling score submission.

Voted for option 1, but after reading the thread, more inclined to option 3.

Second chances should not have been given in the first place. Some may complain that people who cheated before a certain date got a second chance compared to those who will not if this gets implemented; unlucky them.

Looking at osu! currently, there seems to be no way of blocking multiaccounts completely. No point in banning ip/MAC address/etc. A person who is intent on cheating is going to find new ways to cheat no matter what; good luck to the admins on dealing with those.

As for why my opinion went from option 1 to option 3, the thread persuaded me that playing for score is only a part of osu!. If a previous cheater decides that what's done is done and decides to lead a new career, then fine. His score submission privileges won't return, but at least he can map/participate in community projects/chat/do whatever else that might please him. Let him use his old account instead of creating a new one. Like I said above, those intent on cheating will carry on by any means anyway, so admins are going to have to pay attention for those willing to regain their score submission privileges by creating new accounts, even if not necessarily for cheating. Cheaters do need to be punished after all, and that is in the form of score reset/prevention of submitting new scores.

That was not what I mean but who cares xD

i choose permanent ban

Practically KRZY said everything i was thinking on the post 3 above this one, i would like to see permanent ban really working fine with no exeptions but since it does not, third one is the most viable one.

Probably they have god like hands to manage a perpect score using all hard mods in an insane song.. So they always say they don't cheat.. XD

*I voted for 'reset scores, etc.'... It should be 'reset anything including the supporter's tag'...