23:01 <ztrot> : Faust thik I could get you to look at pony spam?
23:02 <Faust> : Alright.
23:02 <Quaraezha> : that sounds weird without context :V
23:02 *ztrot is editing (Renard - GOT MY PONY SPAM FOR YOU)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/39828]
23:02 <ztrot> : :3
23:02 <Quaraezha> : also, afaik
23:02 <Quaraezha> : Renard only has like
23:02 <Quaraezha> : 3 pony songs?
23:03 <ztrot> : he is working on that hush now remix :3
23:03 <Quaraezha> : PSYCHOSHY
23:03 <Quaraezha> : wait, he?
23:03 <Faust> : 3 is more than enough
23:03 <Azure_Kyte> : Psychofly.
23:03 <ztrot> : why in gods name does everyone think that renard is a chick
23:03 <Corin> : BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ I'M GONNA meING KILL YOU BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
23:04 <Quaraezha> : watch out, we have a badass over here
23:07 <Faust> : where the hell are the 1/4's in this
23:07 *Faust is editing (Renard - GOT MY PONY SPAM FOR YOU)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/39828]
23:07 <Faust> : bit wasted if you just leave them out
23:08 <Corin> : omg
23:08 *Corin is listening to (The Queenstons feat. Casey LaLonde - Going Back)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/39038]
23:08 <Corin> : This bass
23:08 <Corin> : Never noticed it before
23:08 <Corin> : AHHHH MY HEADPHONES ARE VIBRATING <3
23:09 <Faust> : sometimes
23:09 <Faust> : when I see overly symmetrical maps
23:10 <Faust> : I feel like destroying a universe.
23:10 <Faust> : Actually, I meant, I feel like mapping a difficulty out of spite.
23:10 <ztrot> :
23:10 <ztrot> : it isn't that symmetrical
23:11 <ztrot> : oaky maybe it is
23:11 <ztrot> : that is just how I map
23:11 <Faust> : Don't pay me much heed. It's just, I've seen enough symmetry maps to last the next 9001 years
23:11 <Quaraezha> : It kinda is, but not much.
23:11 <Faust> : One symmetrical pattern leads to the next
23:11 <Faust> : I just get pissed off.
23:12 <Faust> : It doesn't affect how I mod though, don't worry.
23:12 <ztrot> : it is just how I map I've sadly never mapped that far off a grid
23:12 <ztrot> : tho I don't enforce that in my mods
23:12 <ztrot> : like some modders :U
23:12 <Faust> : But I do know for certain, that ztrot knows how to use his symmetry and pair it with the rhythm he goes for, so
23:12 <Faust> : everything is in accordance with as little hiccup as possible
23:13 <Faust> : Which is a good thing
23:13 <ztrot> :
23:13 <Faust> : Unlike stupid shit mapping just made to be symmetrical for the sake of it
23:13 <ztrot> : daww
23:13 <ztrot> : your making me blush
23:13 <ztrot> : >///<
23:14 <Azure_Kyte> : Blush, you're making me- *stabbed*
23:14 <Quaraezha> : Azundere_Kyte
23:14 <ztrot> : lololol
23:14 <ztrot> : :U
23:14 <Faust> : 02:11:446 (6) - might want to silence those sliderticks manually
23:14 <Azure_Kyte> : I read that as Asiandere_Kyte.
23:14 <Faust> : kind of breaks the atmosphere
23:15 *those sliderticks
23:15 <ztrot> : I know I was a bit worried I might get axed for it
23:15 <ztrot> : but it isn't all of the ticks in the map so shgould be okay
23:19 <Faust> : Is this for approval?
23:20 <ztrot> : yeah
23:20 <ztrot> : it is to hard to map any lower
23:21 <ztrot> : but at the same time I didn't want to make inpossible for everyone
23:21 <Faust> : Yeah it's fairly playable
23:21 <ztrot> : almost hitting 17mill
23:21 <Quaraezha> : btw about Pony Spam
23:21 <Quaraezha> : is it just me (probably just me)
23:21 <ztrot> : should be okay for approval
23:21 <Quaraezha> : or are the hitsounds WAY too soft?
23:22 <Faust> : Just a few suggestions about aesthetics.
23:22 <ztrot> : Quaraezha no they snyc with the music
23:22 <ztrot> : I'm badd about that
23:22 <Faust> : 01:01:446 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I wouldn't advise too linear patterning or shaping for this song or section since your
23:22 <Faust> : map flow is generally all-roundish and fluid
23:23 <Faust> : so these kind of arrangements can be very out of place.
23:23 <Faust> : 01:10:732 (8) - Suggest you add a note here.
23:24 <ztrot> : http://puu.sh/8SBC better?
23:24 <Faust> : stacked on 7
23:24 <Faust> : less curvage
23:24 <Faust> : more wavy
23:24 <Quaraezha> : ~~~
23:24 <ztrot> : hmm
23:24 <Faust> : haha
23:24 <Faust> : yeah
23:25 <ztrot> : http://puu.sh/8SBR
23:26 <Faust> : 01:43:446 (1) - I think this is a pretty bad blindspot for players
23:26 <Faust> : Safer to bring it lower.
23:26 <Faust> : Yeah I guess that works fine
23:26 <Quaraezha> : btw forgive me if I suck but
23:26 <Quaraezha> : this is called IRC Modding right?
23:27 <ztrot> : http://puu.sh/8SC1 bam?
23:27 <Quaraezha> : Faust can post in the map's thread with "IRC Mod" and it can gain kudosu? :V
23:27 <ztrot> : bad screenshot
23:27 <Faust> : I'll omit the non-related chat of course
23:27 <ztrot> : but it is now lower
23:28 <Faust> : actually, about your little break.
23:28 <Faust> : I think you should keep mapping
23:28 <Corin> : Yes Quara
23:28 <Faust> : because that part has that nice groove
23:28 <Corin> : This is basiclly IRC modding.
23:28 <Corin> : Except normally it's kept to PM's
23:29 <Faust> : so I think players would want to keep on going
23:29 <ztrot> : REall
23:29 <Quaraezha> : oh okay :V
23:29 <ztrot> : all it could be is lol long sliders
23:29 *Corin is listening to (Erasure - Always (2009 Mix))[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17282]
23:29 <Faust> : lol
23:29 <ztrot> : or I could go nuts and follow the drums
23:30 <Faust> : yeah, lead on the percussion
23:31 <Faust> : basic rhythm leading to the vocals
23:31 <Faust> : I think it'll work well
23:33 <Faust> : 02:05:446 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Don't forget to apply the earlier changes to this as well
23:34 <Faust> : To be honest, one disadvantage of having to map symmetrically is that sometimes, it may result in
23:34 <Faust> : not-so-intuitive rhythm changes and transitions.
23:34 <Faust> : Because a good symmetrical pattern for vocals doesn't work as well as when you follow the percussion or
23:34 <Faust> : drumming
23:35 <Faust> : because usually there's bound to be more density and thus you'd have to keep the notes spaced more tightly
23:35 <Faust> : that affects the symmetry ratio
23:36 <Faust> : One counter is to map symmetrically while having the map flow in either direction with not much left-right, but
23:36 <Faust> : either a long series of clockwise or anti-clockwise.
23:38 <Faust> : Former results in jumps which is one of the highlights of symmetrical mapping, but may potentially stem the
23:38 <Faust> : stirring of the song. Liken to a cup of coffee, in this case. Stirring clockwise and then counter-clockwise doesn't
23:38 <Faust> : really give nice results most of the time etc.
23:40 <Corin> : SUDDENLY, WALLS OF TEXT
23:40 <Faust> : sup Corn
23:40 <ztrot> : alright try this
23:41 *ztrot is editing (Renard - GOT MY PONY SPAM FOR YOU)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/39828]
23:41 <ztrot> : updated
23:41 <Faust> : let's see..
23:43 <ztrot> : yeah that part would bo better without them clapps tho
23:44 <ztrot> : no
23:45 <ztrot> : JESUSTROT
23:45 <ztrot> : lolol
23:45 <Corin> : OH GOD
23:45 <Corin> : HE DIED FOR OUR SINS
23:45 <Faust> : what is this, it's killing me.
23:45 <Faust> : stop your shit now
23:45 <ztrot> : I rise from the grave bitches
23:45 <Faust> : also, map's good
23:45 <ztrot> : yay
23:58 <ztrot> : Faust: don't forget to post
23:59 <Faust> : Ah, alright
23:59 <ztrot> : so I can kd
23:59 <ztrot> : you were VERY helpful
23:59 <Quaraezha> : <3
23:59 <Quaraezha> : inb4 Faust becomes a MAT
23:59 <Quaraezha> : :U
23:59 <Odaril> : I'd see that happening.
23:59 <ztrot> : Tbh I don't see why not