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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 8:47:46 PM

Artist: Mitchie M feat. Hatsune Miku
Title: Suki! Yuki! Maji Magic
Tags: christmas snow vocaloid
BPM: 167
Filesize: 6269kb
Play Time: 03:19
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this song is too cute :3

osu needs more songs in 1/3

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Hello~
NM req from my queue~
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

HD
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00:19:681 (19681|2) - Why there's LN here ?
00:36:926 (36926|0) - move to 2
00:37:286 (37286|1,37406|2) - move to 12
00:52:495 (52495|1,52855|3) - I know you mapped this as vocal sound, but that isn't comfortible to play, I suggest you to extend the LN till next note, so that note mapped as fx sound
01:46:028 (106028|1) - move to 1
01:46:388 (106388|0) - move to 2
01:49:980 - same as 00:52:495
01:50:938 (110938|3) - move to 3
02:10:100 (130100|0) - ended this LN at 02:10:340 -
02:10:819 - add note here
03:03:513 (183513|1) - move to 1

Hope that's help~
What a cute song :3
Good luck~
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Hello~
NM req from my queue~
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

HD
HD
00:19:681 (19681|2) - Why there's LN here ? vocals
00:36:926 (36926|0) - move to 2 k
00:37:286 (37286|1,37406|2) - move to 12 k
00:52:495 (52495|1,52855|3) - I know you mapped this as vocal sound, but that isn't comfortible to play, I suggest you to extend the LN till next note, so that note mapped as fx sound ok, no reply = ok
01:46:028 (106028|1) - move to 1 would prefer 01:46:388 (106388|1) - in different lane and not be same triple as previous patterns
01:46:388 (106388|0) - move to 2
01:49:980 - same as 00:52:495
01:50:938 (110938|3) - move to 3 would break patterns
02:10:100 (130100|0) - ended this LN at 02:10:340 - nah, too much rhythm for low intensity part
02:10:819 - add note here above
03:03:513 (183513|1) - move to 1

Hope that's help~
What a cute song :3
Good luck~
thank you!
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ho ho ho your bg sucks and merry christmas

1|2|3|4

use this bg https://i.imgur.com/eZCDark.jpg its your present from santa lith

I know you're not done hitsounding but dont forget to add a hitnormal

nerf your lower diff so it falls within the RC (need one diff below 2*)

a lot of the things i mention repeat a bunch but i didnt want my mod to be too long

HD

00:02:555 (2555|2,2675|1,2795|2) - make this map 4k+1 and put these on the scratch column

00:17:166 (17166|3,17286|3) - This map is fun and light and so I dont think you should include uncomfortable patterns like this even if the bpm is low. 00:17:166 (17166|3) - removing this would be sufficient

00:20:519 (20519|2) - Did you forget a note

00:42:795 (42795|2) - it sounds like this stream keeps going, i know its an "echo" but its still very prominent.

01:14:651 (74651|1,75130|2) - I think this would work better as 4 sliders instead of 2 to match the vocals better

01:39:920 (99920|3,99980|2,100040|1,100100|0,100160|2,100160|3,100220|1,100280|0,100280|3) - that col 4 is pretty awkward, i cant think of a better way to do it though because of the structure. Still mess around and try to make it a little more comfy because this really stuck out while playing

01:45:669 (105669|1) - Having bass hits as triples and snares as doubles 01:46:028 (106028|3) - is a bold strategy cotton and i dont think it'll pay off

01:54:651 (114651|2) - you should make this a jumptrill because its a creative pattern that's underused

02:09:621 (129621|2,130100|0,130459|1,130699|3) - not really seeing what this is mapped to

02:24:711 (144711|0,144831|3,144831|1,144920|2,145010|3,145010|1,145100|2,145190|1,145190|3,145190|0) - https://i.imgur.com/WlHXeN5.png

02:35:609 (155609|0) - seems like this LN extends an extra 1/3

02:36:687 (156687|0) - cant hear a synth here
>its mapped to the vocals
remove if mapped to vocals

NM

This diff is fine. A bit repetitive though which is why i didnt really find anything.

nerf it to fit RC and let me know what you change to get this
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ho ho ho your bg sucks and merry christmas

1|2|3|4

use this bg https://i.imgur.com/eZCDark.jpg its your present from santa lith ty

I know you're not done hitsounding but dont forget to add a hitnormal done

nerf your lower diff so it falls within the RC (need one diff below 2*) done

a lot of the things i mention repeat a bunch but i didnt want my mod to be too long

HD

00:02:555 (2555|2,2675|1,2795|2) - make this map 4k+1 and put these on the scratch column fixed, also ctrl-h'd my map 38 times

00:17:166 (17166|3,17286|3) - This map is fun and light and so I dont think you should include uncomfortable patterns like this even if the bpm is low. 00:17:166 (17166|3) - removing this would be sufficient If you can provide a solution that can still emphasise the finish then I'll accept it. Currently,
a map of this SR would be a good farm for me and it's really easy for me to hit this.


00:20:519 (20519|2) - Did you forget a note no i deleted one

00:42:795 (42795|2) - it sounds like this stream keeps going, i know its an "echo" but its still very prominent. My mapping in all modes only follows the main melody of a song

01:14:651 (74651|1,75130|2) - I think this would work better as 4 sliders instead of 2 to match the vocals better

01:39:920 (99920|3,99980|2,100040|1,100100|0,100160|2,100160|3,100220|1,100280|0,100280|3) - that col 4 is pretty awkward, i cant think of a better way to do it though because of the structure. Still mess around and try to make it a little more comfy because this really stuck out while playing

01:45:669 (105669|1) - Having bass hits as triples and snares as doubles 01:46:028 (106028|3) - is a bold strategy cotton and i dont think it'll pay off i've used a triple on every single bell in the song you numpty

01:54:651 (114651|2) - you should make this a jumptrill because its a creative pattern that's underused thanks

02:09:621 (129621|2,130100|0,130459|1,130699|3) - not really seeing what this is mapped to The wub sound becomes prominent on this tick

02:24:711 (144711|0,144831|3,144831|1,144920|2,145010|3,145010|1,145100|2,145190|1,145190|3,145190|0) - https://i.imgur.com/WlHXeN5.png no u

02:35:609 (155609|0) - seems like this LN extends an extra 1/3 ok

02:36:687 (156687|0) - cant hear a synth here ok
>its mapped to the vocals
remove if mapped to vocals

NM

This diff is fine. A bit repetitive though which is why i didn't really find anything.

nerf it to fit RC and let me know what you change to get this done, nerfed all streams after chorus 01:16:687 (76687|1) - 02:13:693 (133693|3) - etc
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Setup: 02:56:807 - very weird point for kiai time.
You can add tags: Xmas new year 2018 really love!
// "really" and "love" are for possibility of searching the english song title "Love! Snow! Really Magic"

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00:09:022 (9022|0) - you can move it to 3 to avoid 1/2 jack 00:08:843 (8843|0,9022|0) (make sure to rearrange the next note 00:09:262 (9262|1) - if you accept this)
00:11:537 (11537|2,11777|2,11897|3,12136|3) - kinda unneeded
00:35:729 (35729|1,35849|0,35968|1) - you can swap columns to avoid 00:35:489 (35489|1,35729|1,35968|1)
00:43:034 (43034|3) - move it to 1, column4 is already overloaded by this 00:42:076 (42076|3,42316|3,42555|3,42795|3)
00:49:861 - it doesn't seem to be double note
00:56:447 (56447|1,56687|1,56926|1,57166|1,57406|1) - eh it is avoidable
01:38:962 (98962|2,98962|3) - this and 00:35:729 (35729|1) - are the same sounds, you might want to make it 00:35:729 - a double note
01:59:322 (119322|3,119501|3) - it's inconsistent with other 1/4 rolls: 01:01:837 - 01:13:334
02:04:352 (124352|2,124531|2,124621|3,124801|3,124891|2,125070|2) - very uncomfortable pattern and inconsistency difficult
02:13:693 - should be double, it's much weaker than 02:13:334

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00:08:663 - should be double for the bell
00:12:855 - maybe a note here
00:24:471 - double for the bell
00:27:346 - ^
00:55:010 (55010|2,55370|2,55729|3,56088|3,56807|2,57166|2,57525|2) - you overload right hand in this part
01:01:837 - double for the bell
01:09:741 (69741|2,69980|2,70220|2) - I'd recommend to avoid such anchors
01:13:334 - double for the bell

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Setup: 02:56:807 - very weird point for kiai time.
You can add tags: Xmas new year 2018 really love! don't think anyone is going to search for the song with those tags :P
// "really" and "love" are for possibility of searching the english song title "Love! Snow! Really Magic"

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00:09:022 (9022|0) - you can move it to 3 to avoid 1/2 jack 00:08:843 (8843|0,9022|0) (make sure to rearrange the next note 00:09:262 (9262|1) - if you accept this) that creates a 1/4 jack :blobsweats:
00:11:537 (11537|2,11777|2,11897|3,12136|3) - kinda unneeded what is?
00:35:729 (35729|1,35849|0,35968|1) - you can swap columns to avoid 00:35:489 (35489|1,35729|1,35968|1) not exactly sure what "avoiding" helps with
00:43:034 (43034|3) - move it to 1, column4 is already overloaded by this 00:42:076 (42076|3,42316|3,42555|3,42795|3) yes
00:49:861 - it doesn't seem to be double noteforgot my hitsound xP
00:56:447 (56447|1,56687|1,56926|1,57166|1,57406|1) - eh it is avoidable what is
01:38:962 (98962|2,98962|3) - this and 00:35:729 (35729|1) - are the same sounds, you might want to make it 00:35:729 - a double note ok
01:59:322 (119322|3,119501|3) - it's inconsistent with other 1/4 rolls: 01:01:837 - 01:13:334 pattern variety
02:04:352 (124352|2,124531|2,124621|3,124801|3,124891|2,125070|2) - very uncomfortable pattern and inconsistency difficult the pattern looks like shit but plays better
02:13:693 - should be double, it's much weaker than 02:13:334 yes

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00:08:663 - should be double for the bell Don't want to make these too hard since there's a stream
00:12:855 - maybe a note here I follow this structure the whole map
00:24:471 - double for the bell ye
00:27:346 - ^ nah
00:55:010 (55010|2,55370|2,55729|3,56088|3,56807|2,57166|2,57525|2) - you overload right hand in this part looks balanced to me
01:01:837 - double for the bell same as above
01:09:741 (69741|2,69980|2,70220|2) - I'd recommend to avoid such anchors seems fine playability wise
01:13:334 - double for the bell same

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uh same as lith, will edit these later. the majority of the things I consider issues are replied to, so can still have mods~
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General
  • BPM: OK
  • Offset: OK
  • AiMod: OK
  • Audio: OK
  • Background: OK
  • Preview Point: OK

4k P A T T E R N - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |


HD

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:arrow: Good luck and Advance Merry Christmas :)
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4k P A T T E R N - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |


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:arrow: Good luck and Advance Merry Christmas :)


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Difficulties: eeeeeeeeeeeee the normal is very close to being above 2*. this is bound to change and if i were you i would save the pain of keeping it under and just make an Easy diff. though tbh its up to you
Spread: looks okay
Hitsounds: done i think
Metadata: good
AiMod: check aimod for hard
Other:nothing


HD
00:04:950 (4950|1,5429|1) - any reason for these being in the same column? they're not representing the same sound

00:09:980 (9980|1,10100|0,10340|0,10459|1,10699|1,10819|0,10938|1,11178|1,11178|0,11417|1,11537|0) - this column is pretty overused

00:14:322 (14322|3,14322|0) - unfortunately the drum is on the 1/3rd so idk what you'll do about that at least make what i selected a single to show you're not charting the drum

00:25:070 (25070|0,25190|1,25280|0,25370|1) - whats this weird trill for? makes everything odd to play honestly. i dont see any intention behind it either, like PR or whatever

00:29:861 (29861|0,29980|1,30100|0,30220|1) - right hand bias ; )))

add a note 00:42:914 - here and 00:42:974 - here since the 1/6th sound carries on till there i guess

00:45:789 - 00:45:789 - ^^

01:20:519 (80519|1,80519|3,80519|2,80519|0) - honestly a quad seems a bit silly lmao since the sounds before it are stronger. i understand it could be there for emphasis but just feels out of place

01:40:280 - again maybe add the rest of the 1/6th

01:43:154 - ^^

01:56:447 (116447|0,116447|3,116447|2) - tbh i think a triple is too much

02:16:208 - tbh i would chart the 1/4th over the drum but up to you

03:09:741 (189741|0,189741|2,189741|1,189741|3) - same concerns


NM
00:08:663 - add one for piano chime thing?

00:16:807 (16807|0,16926|1) - CTRL+G ing this makes more sense to me since the direction of flow doesnt change and because the drums are the same the change can seem odd

00:58:244 (58244|1,58364|2,58483|3,58603|0,58723|1,58843|2) - making these flow in the same direction is odd since the drums change halfway through. maybe find a way to show that with bursts or trills or something

01:09:621 (69621|1,69741|2,69861|3,69980|2,70100|1,70220|2,70340|3) - damn first column dead

01:16:208 - again column 1 dead

02:09:382 (129382|0,129741|3,130100|1,130459|2) - this pattern is questionable for a NM diff.

03:01:118 (181118|3,181118|0) - i think a double is too much tbh. not really any sound strong enough

03:16:567 - i highly recommend adding an LN like in HD


good luck!
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Difficulties: eeeeeeeeeeeee the normal is very close to being above 2*. this is bound to change and if i were you i would save the pain of keeping it under and just make an Easy diff. though tbh its up to you I'll keep an eye on it, already did lots of nerfing to get here
Spread: looks okay
Hitsounds: done i think
Metadata: good
AiMod: check aimod for hard fixed
Other:nothing


HD
00:04:950 (4950|1,5429|1) - any reason for these being in the same column? they're not representing the same sound I like to use jacks on unexpected sounds, since they're generally unexpected. Doesn't have to be the same sound for jacks to be used.

00:09:980 (9980|1,10100|0,10340|0,10459|1,10699|1,10819|0,10938|1,11178|1,11178|0,11417|1,11537|0) - this column is pretty overused looks pretty balanced, it's just there's LNs.

00:14:322 (14322|3,14322|0) - unfortunately the drum is on the 1/3rd so idk what you'll do about that at least make what i selected a single to show you're not charting the drum Best to just follow the synth and ignore drum for playability, but keep emphasis to show general tone.

00:25:070 (25070|0,25190|1,25280|0,25370|1) - whats this weird trill for? makes everything odd to play honestly. i dont see any intention behind it either, like PR or whatever 00:25:190 (25190|1) - moved to lane 3

00:29:861 (29861|0,29980|1,30100|0,30220|1) - right hand bias ; ))) no bias on the right

add a note 00:42:914 - here and 00:42:974 - here since the 1/6th sound carries on till there i guess The sound reaches the highest point at 00:42:795 (42795|2) - , so fitting to stop there.

00:45:789 - 00:45:789 - ^^

01:20:519 (80519|1,80519|3,80519|2,80519|0) - honestly a quad seems a bit silly lmao since the sounds before it are stronger. i understand it could be there for emphasis but just feels out of place Good idea, changed to a double

01:40:280 - again maybe add the rest of the 1/6th

01:43:154 - ^^

01:56:447 (116447|0,116447|3,116447|2) - tbh i think a triple is too much agree

02:16:208 - tbh i would chart the 1/4th over the drum but up to you prefer as is, too much if I mapped 1/4

03:09:741 (189741|0,189741|2,189741|1,189741|3) - same concerns yup


NM
00:08:663 - add one for piano chime thing? didn't to keep lower density

00:16:807 (16807|0,16926|1) - CTRL+G ing this makes more sense to me since the direction of flow doesnt change and because the drums are the same the change can seem odd I'm just doing a weber pattern, they're generally easier imo.

00:58:244 (58244|1,58364|2,58483|3,58603|0,58723|1,58843|2) - making these flow in the same direction is odd since the drums change halfway through. maybe find a way to show that with bursts or trills or something this is NM lol, going from lane 4 to 1 is fine for emphasis.

01:09:621 (69621|1,69741|2,69861|3,69980|2,70100|1,70220|2,70340|3) - damn first column dead that's just the nature of the pattern tbh, is fine

01:16:208 - again column 1 dead reworked the whole pattern

02:09:382 (129382|0,129741|3,130100|1,130459|2) - this pattern is questionable for a NM diff. imo it's fine

03:01:118 (181118|3,181118|0) - i think a double is too much tbh. not really any sound strong enough there is a bell here

03:16:567 - i highly recommend adding an LN like in HD done


good luck!

You had some good suggestion in there, thanks for modding!
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2017-11-15 22:06 Litharrale: yo
2017-11-15 22:06 Litharrale: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1443657 Mitchie M feat. Hatsune Miku - Suki! Yuki! Maji Magic [HD]]
2017-11-15 22:06 Litharrale: if i vanish its because of my net and ill be back asap
2017-11-15 22:07 Sinnoh: ye
2017-11-15 22:08 Litharrale: you have 2 BG  files in your folder
2017-11-15 22:08 Sinnoh: i heard it increases the super resolution if you put more bgs in the folder
2017-11-15 22:08 Litharrale: no stop you'll get me excited
2017-11-15 22:09 Litharrale: you need to add a hitfinish.wav btw
2017-11-15 22:09 Sinnoh: i think there's one, did you delete + redownload
2017-11-15 22:09 Litharrale: yeah
2017-11-15 22:09 Litharrale: ofc i did 
2017-11-15 22:09 Litharrale: who do you think i am? weber?
2017-11-15 22:09 Litharrale: :^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)
2017-11-15 22:10 Sinnoh: i use the default hitfinish so idk why I need to add another
2017-11-15 22:10 Litharrale: no defaults
2017-11-15 22:11 Sinnoh: ok but why
2017-11-15 22:11 Litharrale: can i just say "because I said so" 
2017-11-15 22:12 Sinnoh: can i just say I changed it so we can move on
2017-11-15 22:12 Litharrale: as long as you're not lying
2017-11-15 22:13 Litharrale: 00:22:675 (22675|1) - https://i.imgur.com/D3A1Jci.png there's a lot of hitsound inconsistencies between the diffs
2017-11-15 22:15 Sinnoh: fixed that
2017-11-15 22:15 Litharrale: i'll just post all the timestamps where there's an inconsistency, make em w/e you want as long as they're consistent
2017-11-15 22:15 Litharrale: 00:57:885 (57885|1) - 
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: 01:15:849 
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: 01:33:094 - 
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: 01:39:202 - 
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: 01:55:370 - 
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: 02:05:070 - 
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: 02:11:178 - 
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: 02:30:938 - 
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: 02:30:938 - 
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: fuck double posted
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: 02:47:106 - 
2017-11-15 22:16 Sinnoh: wew
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: 02:56:567 - 
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: 03:07:465 - 
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: 03:08:304 - 
2017-11-15 22:16 Litharrale: das it
2017-11-15 22:20 Sinnoh: ok
2017-11-15 22:20 Sinnoh: and 03:16:567 (3) -
2017-11-15 22:20 Litharrale: yew
2017-11-15 22:24 Sinnoh: puxtu offered to make a harder diff but I don't like taking gds on sets
2017-11-15 22:24 Litharrale: might not be a bad idea if you want 
2017-11-15 22:24 Litharrale: you cant get this qualified till december anyway
2017-11-15 22:25 Sinnoh: nah, I prefer set as is
2017-11-15 22:25 Litharrale: looks fine
2017-11-15 22:25 Litharrale: add a hitfinish, hitnormal and 1080p bg and ill bub
2017-11-15 22:26 Litharrale: add a 1/16 LN jack alongside this LN 03:16:567 (196567|1) - 
2017-11-15 22:26 Litharrale: for the echo
2017-11-15 22:31 Litharrale: internet dead
2017-11-15 22:31 Litharrale: did you add it
2017-11-15 23:14 Sinnoh: everything applied~
2017-11-15 23:14 Sinnoh: except the 1/16 jacks those are retarded
2017-11-15 23:14 Litharrale: wtf 
2017-11-15 23:14 Litharrale: no they're not
2017-11-15 23:14 Litharrale: you're just bad mapper
2017-11-15 23:14 Sinnoh: yes they are
2017-11-15 23:14 Sinnoh: it's my style :angery:
2017-11-15 23:14 Litharrale: redling
2017-11-15 23:15 Litharrale: bg isnt 1080p
2017-11-15 23:15 Sinnoh: it's 1200 my bad
2017-11-15 23:15 Sinnoh: the fukc
2017-11-15 23:15 Sinnoh: what happened
2017-11-15 23:16 Litharrale: I'll be waiting -            _     -
2017-11-15 23:35 Litharrale: quick lets bubble your map before my net dies again
2017-11-15 23:35 Sinnoh: ok
2017-11-15 23:36 Litharrale: bg isnt 1080p
2017-11-15 23:36 Litharrale: it looks upscaled
2017-11-15 23:36 Sinnoh: of course it is there are no 1080p bgs for snow miku of 2014
2017-11-15 23:37 Litharrale: fair
2017-11-15 23:38 Litharrale: are these hitsounds used? https://i.imgur.com/OybMna8.png
2017-11-15 23:38 Litharrale: im scanning and cant find any but i am blind
2017-11-15 23:38 Sinnoh: the lr one isn't
2017-11-15 23:38 Litharrale: wheres the drum
2017-11-15 23:39 Sinnoh: 00:58:603 (58603|1) -
2017-11-15 23:39 Litharrale: ew https://i.imgur.com/pZk5Api.png
2017-11-15 23:39 Litharrale: why cant you ignore that option like all the other mania kids
2017-11-15 23:39 Litharrale: ):<
2017-11-15 23:39 Sinnoh: it's faster than sample import
2017-11-15 23:40 Litharrale: update without the lr one and ill bubberino
2017-11-15 23:40 Sinnoh: click the note, r, ctrl-r
2017-11-15 23:40 Litharrale: huh
2017-11-15 23:40 Litharrale: you learn something new everyday
2017-11-15 23:41 Litharrale: also with the new hitnormal, the 80% vol is kinda loud
2017-11-15 23:41 Litharrale: imo you should decrease HS vol across the board by like
2017-11-15 23:41 Litharrale: 20-30%
2017-11-15 23:41 Sinnoh: or i could just remove the hitnormal
2017-11-15 23:41 Litharrale: if you wanna swap it out go for it
2017-11-15 23:42 Sinnoh: reuploaded
2017-11-15 23:43 Litharrale: sinnoh
2017-11-15 23:43 Litharrale: when i said swap it out 
2017-11-15 23:43 Litharrale: i didnt mean remove it altogethere
2017-11-15 23:44 Sinnoh: o shit someone qualified my set
2017-11-15 23:44 Sinnoh: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/629384
2017-11-15 23:44 Litharrale: geratz
2017-11-15 23:44 Litharrale: wait a minute
2017-11-15 23:44 Litharrale: idk ctb rules
2017-11-15 23:45 Litharrale: but i thought only the top diff can have a custom name
2017-11-15 23:45 Sinnoh: https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Ranking_Criteria/Difficulty_Naming
2017-11-15 23:46 Litharrale: til deluge is an actual diff name
2017-11-15 23:48 Sinnoh: i took a soft-hitnormal from elsewhere
2017-11-15 23:49 Litharrale: uploaded?
2017-11-15 23:49 Sinnoh: yes
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